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14th Jan '17 3:08:15 PM Nintendoman01
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** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'': After defeating [[TheUsurper Zant]], Midna outright spells it out for him that this trope is why he was passed over for the Twilight Realm's throne in favor of her: because he ''only'' wanted the throne for the power.
-->'''Midna''': Traitors, ha! You want to know why none would call you king? It was your eyes, Zant. All saw it, a lust for power burning in your pupils... Did you think we'd forget our ancestors lost their king to such greed?
12th Jan '17 9:03:58 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Varys comments that Littlefinger "would see this kingdom burn if he could be king of the ashes."
30th Nov '16 12:17:19 PM intastiel
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* [[spoiler:Elan's father]] Tarquin in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' believes in this, despite paying lip service to the notion of people needing a strong orderly society imposed on them for their own good. He maintains [[spoiler:a rotating system of brutal puppet states in constant war, with himself and his allies as TheManBehindTheMan for disposable {{Decoy Leader}}s]], just so he can live the high life until some hero finally kills him.
** Daimyo Kubota was a pretty extreme example, he wanted to take Lord Shojo's place as ruler of Azure City and him [[spoiler:losing the city to Redcloak]] didn't change anything, apparently [[EvilIsPetty a now meaningless title is still worth killing for to him.]]

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[[spoiler:Elan's father]] Tarquin in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' believes in this, despite paying lip service to the notion of people needing a strong orderly society imposed on them for their own good. He maintains [[spoiler:a rotating system of brutal puppet states in constant war, with himself and his allies as TheManBehindTheMan for disposable {{Decoy Leader}}s]], just so he can live the high life until some hero finally kills him.
** Daimyo Kubota was is a pretty extreme example, example: he wanted schemes to take Lord Shojo's place as ruler of Azure City and him [[spoiler:losing the City, even after [[spoiler:the city falls to Redcloak]] didn't change anything, Redcloak's army and is evacuated]] -- apparently [[EvilIsPetty a now meaningless title is still worth killing for to him.]]
26th Oct '16 1:02:18 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Hamlet}}'' when uncle Claudius poisons his brother the King and marries his wife. Aside from getting most of the main characters killed, he's not really a bad king.
* ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}'', a loyal general that murders the King to replace him.
* And the title character of ''Theatre/RichardIII'' (in ''Shakespeare,'' no matter what you think of his RealLife counterpart) kills a great many people in order to become King of England, but is at a loss for what to do once he gets there (other than killing ''more'' people so he can ''stay'' there).



* Littlefinger, of ''ASongOfIceAndFire'', who has been specifically described as willing to burn down the Kingdom if it meant he could rule the ashes.

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* Littlefinger, of ''ASongOfIceAndFire'', ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', who has been specifically described as willing to burn down the Kingdom if it meant he could rule the ashes.


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* In ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' when uncle Claudius poisons his brother the King and marries his wife. Aside from getting most of the main characters killed, he's not really a bad king.
* ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}'', a loyal general that murders the King to replace him.
* And the title character of ''Theatre/RichardIII'' (in ''Shakespeare,'' no matter what you think of his RealLife counterpart) kills a great many people in order to become King of England, but is at a loss for what to do once he gets there (other than killing ''more'' people so he can ''stay'' there).
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6th Oct '16 6:06:18 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'': Eggman seems to have this attitude towards his world conquest schemes. The Bad Future levels of ''VideoGame/SonicCD'' are nothing but derelict, post-apocalyptic ruins, while in ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'', when he makes his move after Sonic takes out the Deadly Six, he remarks that, while it's a pity that the Six have largely destroyed the world below, at least there's still enough of said world left for him to conquer.

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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'': Eggman seems to have this attitude towards his world conquest schemes. The Bad Future BadFuture levels of ''VideoGame/SonicCD'' are nothing but derelict, post-apocalyptic ruins, while in ''VideoGame/SonicLostWorld'', when he makes his move after Sonic takes out the Deadly Six, he remarks that, while it's a pity that the Six have largely destroyed the world below, at least there's still enough of said world left for him to conquer.


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* ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIII'' has Urien, the younger brother of [[BigBad Gill]]. While Gill is a WellIntentionedExtremist, Urien simply wants to acquire power for himself and rule over the world with an iron fist.
24th Aug '16 12:59:38 PM MattP5557
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** Daimyo Kubota was a pretty extreme example, he wanted to take Lord Shojo's place as ruler of Azure City and him [[spoiler:losing the city to Redcloak]] didn't change anything, apparently [[EvilIsPetty a now meaningless title is still worth killing for to him.]]
4th Aug '16 7:44:24 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'': The Didacts primary goal is to restore the Forerunners former glory, and ensure that they alone wield the Mantle of Responsibility. By eliminating Humanity and the Flood. [[spoiler:This is due in part of his MindRape by the Gravemind.]]
** The three Prophets commanded the Covenant Empire to wipe out humanity, because humans are the rightful inheritors of the Forerunners legacy, and this revelation would shatter the Prophets rule over the Covenant. They are willing to glass entire worlds to eliminate every last human, and have no problem in disposing their own forces, or backstabbing one another.

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The Didacts Ur-Didact's primary goal is to restore the Forerunners Forerunners' former glory, and ensure that they alone wield the Mantle of Responsibility. By eliminating Humanity and not just the Flood.Flood, but humanity too. [[spoiler:This is due in part of his MindRape by the Gravemind.]]
** The three High Prophets of Truth, Regret, and Mercy commanded the Covenant Empire to wipe out humanity, because they found out that humans are the rightful inheritors of the Forerunners Forerunners' legacy, and this revelation would shatter the Prophets Prophets' rule over the Covenant. They are willing to glass entire worlds to eliminate every last human, and have no problem in disposing of their own forces, or backstabbing one another.each other.
14th Jul '16 1:04:04 AM PaulA
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** Rumpelstiltskin, the BigBad of ''Shrek Forever After'', takes it even further; in the AlternateReality where he rules Far Far Away, the entire city is a derelict, rotting mess of a town, and both Shrek's friends and the ogre population are used as slaves.

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** Rumpelstiltskin, the BigBad of ''Shrek Forever After'', takes it even further; in the AlternateReality AlternateUniverse where he rules Far Far Away, the entire city is a derelict, rotting mess of a town, and both Shrek's friends and the ogre population are used as slaves.
17th Jun '16 12:43:43 AM Doug86
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* In ''WorldOfWarcraft'', one of the villain races of the fourth expansion, [[AbusivePrecursors The]] [[LivingStatue Mogu]], have this motivation. This in contrast to fellow villain races, the [[EldritchAbomination Sha]] who want to [[TheCorruption corrupt]] or [[OmnicidalManiac kill everyone]], and the [[BeePeople Man]][[ProudWarriorRaceGuy tid]] who seek to become stronger as a race, via {{training from hell}} and [[SocialDarwinist the culling of their weak]], to better serve their [[GodofEvil Old God Master]]. Nope, clearly they just want to be the ones in charge, and consider every other race to be [[FantasticRacism unfit to rule and that they should be enslaved]], even tough [[GenreBlind many of them have proven to be strong enough to fight them in equal standing]]. Even within their own society, this ideology is what drives them, and for a ruling dynasty to be replaced requires an aspirant to succesfully perform a {{Klingon Promotion}} on them.

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* In ''WorldOfWarcraft'', ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', one of the villain races of the fourth expansion, [[AbusivePrecursors The]] [[LivingStatue Mogu]], have this motivation. This in contrast to fellow villain races, the [[EldritchAbomination Sha]] who want to [[TheCorruption corrupt]] or [[OmnicidalManiac kill everyone]], and the [[BeePeople Man]][[ProudWarriorRaceGuy tid]] who seek to become stronger as a race, via {{training from hell}} and [[SocialDarwinist the culling of their weak]], to better serve their [[GodofEvil Old God Master]]. Nope, clearly they just want to be the ones in charge, and consider every other race to be [[FantasticRacism unfit to rule and that they should be enslaved]], even tough [[GenreBlind many of them have proven to be strong enough to fight them in equal standing]]. Even within their own society, this ideology is what drives them, and for a ruling dynasty to be replaced requires an aspirant to succesfully perform a {{Klingon Promotion}} on them.
14th Jun '16 10:57:34 PM Chabal2
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K'': While every person who falls to Chaos has a different motive (some genuinely want to reform the corrupt and dying Imperium, some want to make their lives better, some want to save their families...), in the end those who don't go insane pretty much all angle for ascension to daemonhood, becoming immortal and carving out their own corner of the Warp as their personal playground for eternity.
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