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31st May '16 8:28:58 PM Soufriere
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** This comes to a head in Season 5's "Princess Spike", an episode whose moral is [[BrokenAesop supposed to be]] "Don't get DrunkWithPower". However, all decisions that backfired on Spike [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished were ones he made with fully-good intentions]][[labelnote:*]] (stopping the loud maintenance work outside Twilight's window and adjudicating two ponies' schedule conflict, both of which he did because he was explicitly ordered to let Twilight sleep)[[/labelnote]]; [[KarmaHoudini his legitimately selfish choices had no negative consequences whatsoever]].

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** This comes to a head in Season 5's "Princess Spike", an episode whose moral is [[BrokenAesop supposed to be]] "Don't get DrunkWithPower". However, all decisions that backfired on Spike [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished were ones he made with fully-good intentions]][[labelnote:*]] (stopping the loud maintenance work outside Twilight's window and adjudicating two ponies' schedule conflict, both of which he did because he was explicitly ordered to let keep Twilight sleep)[[/labelnote]]; from being disturbed)[[/labelnote]]; [[KarmaHoudini his legitimately selfish choices had no negative consequences whatsoever]].
31st May '16 8:27:28 PM Soufriere
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* Some fans of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' feel Spike the dragon falls into this. He mostly exists to be the ButtMonkey abused for comic relief, but some feel the abuse often goes too far and makes him UnintentionallySympathetic. Specific examples include him suddenly becoming incompetent at basically everything after owing Applejack a life debt in ''Spike at Your Service'', losing all the gems he legitimately worked for in ''Just for Sidekicks'' (brushed off as karma for "his dragon hoarding instincts kicking in again", which some feel is unintentional FantasticRacism), and not being invited back to the empire ''he helped save'' in the same episode. He has a crush on Rarity, who is frequently InnocentlyInsensitive toward him despite ''knowing'' about his feelings, and this is all PlayedForLaughs. Series 4 even made something of a story arc about his role as the ButtMonkey giving his self esteem issues, and yet StatusQuoIsGod means he always goes back to being mistreated afterwards. This came to a head in "Princess Spike", an episode that's Aesop was supposed to be "don't get DrunkWithPower", but all decisions Spike made with ''fully good intentions'' [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished were the ones that backfired]], while [[KarmaHoudini all of his legitimately selfish decisions had no negative consequences whatsoever.]]

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* Some fans of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' feel Spike the dragon The Dragon falls into this. He mostly exists to be the ButtMonkey abused for comic relief, but some feel the abuse often goes too far and makes him UnintentionallySympathetic. Specific examples include him include…
** He
suddenly becoming becomes incompetent at basically everything after owing Applejack a life debt in ''Spike "Spike at Your Service'', losing Service",
** Loses
all the gems he legitimately worked for in ''Just for Sidekicks'' "Just For Sidekicks" (brushed off as karma for "his dragon hoarding instincts kicking in again", which some feel is felt was unintentional FantasticRacism), FantasticRacism)
** In that episode,
and its companion piece "Games Ponies Play", he's not being invited back to the empire ''he helped save'' in the same episode. save''.
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He has a crush on Rarity, who is frequently InnocentlyInsensitive toward him despite ''knowing'' about his feelings, and this is all PlayedForLaughs. Series Granted, Spike is not only a different species, but also a ''child'' both physically and mentally.
** Season
4 even made something of a story arc about his role as the ButtMonkey giving his self esteem him self-esteem issues, and yet StatusQuoIsGod means [[StatusQuoIsGod he always goes back to being mistreated afterwards. mistreated]].
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This came comes to a head in Season 5's "Princess Spike", an episode that's Aesop was whose moral is [[BrokenAesop supposed to be "don't be]] "Don't get DrunkWithPower", but DrunkWithPower". However, all decisions that backfired on Spike made with ''fully good intentions'' [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished were the ones that backfired]], while he made with fully-good intentions]][[labelnote:*]] (stopping the loud maintenance work outside Twilight's window and adjudicating two ponies' schedule conflict, both of which he did because he was explicitly ordered to let Twilight sleep)[[/labelnote]]; [[KarmaHoudini all of his legitimately selfish decisions choices had no negative consequences whatsoever.]]
whatsoever]].
13th May '16 11:44:43 PM Doug86
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* Marcus Brutus in Colleen [=McCullough=]'s ''MastersOfRome'' series of historical novels. He isn't a ButtMonkey or ChewToy because he is a historical figure, but the writer goes out of her way to show her disdain for him. Brutus is portrayed in a deeply unsympathetic way as a coward, completely under the heel of his mother, a boring pseudointellectual, and both miserly and greedy when it comes to money. He is allowed a few moments of likability but is otherwise entirely contemptible, largely because of his role in killing Julius Caesar (who is essentially a CanonSue in [=McCullough=]'s novels).

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* Marcus Brutus in Colleen [=McCullough=]'s ''MastersOfRome'' ''Literature/MastersOfRome'' series of historical novels. He isn't a ButtMonkey or ChewToy because he is a historical figure, but the writer goes out of her way to show her disdain for him. Brutus is portrayed in a deeply unsympathetic way as a coward, completely under the heel of his mother, a boring pseudointellectual, and both miserly and greedy when it comes to money. He is allowed a few moments of likability but is otherwise entirely contemptible, largely because of his role in killing Julius Caesar (who is essentially a CanonSue in [=McCullough=]'s novels).
2nd Apr '16 11:59:18 PM nombretomado
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* The titular character of EverybodyLovesRaymond became this trope more and more as the show went on. His wife, Debra, sometimes got this treatment at the hands of Marie, but at least in those cases, the show made it clear that the audience was supposed to side with Debra over Marie. When Ray became the DesignatedMonkey at ''Debra's'' hands, it was often for very shoddy reasons, yet it seemed like the show wanted the audience to root for Debra (at the very least, the studio audience seemed to be rooting for her, even when she made Ray a ButtMonkey).

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* The titular character of EverybodyLovesRaymond ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond'' became this trope more and more as the show went on. His wife, Debra, sometimes got this treatment at the hands of Marie, but at least in those cases, the show made it clear that the audience was supposed to side with Debra over Marie. When Ray became the DesignatedMonkey at ''Debra's'' hands, it was often for very shoddy reasons, yet it seemed like the show wanted the audience to root for Debra (at the very least, the studio audience seemed to be rooting for her, even when she made Ray a ButtMonkey).
28th Mar '16 1:20:17 PM fruitstripegum
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* Sokka in Avatar: The Last Airbender is always this. He is a klutz and usually pretty unable to determine even the most obvious details. It seems like he can't go a single episode without hurting himself. But in his favor, during the course of the show he did repeatedly [[TookALevelInBadass take some levels in badass]].

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* Sokka in Avatar: The Last Airbender ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' is always this. He is a klutz and usually pretty unable to determine even the most obvious details. It seems like he can't go a single episode without hurting himself. But in his favor, during the course of the show he did repeatedly [[TookALevelInBadass take some levels in badass]].
19th Mar '16 4:00:35 AM Hossmeister
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4th Mar '16 4:02:05 PM nombretomado
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* ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} is a similar case, as in recent years characters have became prone to calling him out on being a terrorist or war criminal thanks to his actions during events like ''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen''. While some fans sided with CaptainAmerica and {{Wolverine}} in their condemnation of him, an equal number of fans (that has since grown) have protested that their treatment is unfair and hypocritical, especially given he spent half of the latter being corrupted by the Phoenix Force and wasn't harming anyone until they pushed him, and that the whole mess started because of Wolverine telling Cap not to trust Cyclops. A few years prior, when Wolverine and Cyclops argued, fanboys would cheer Wolverine on; now, they comment that Cyclops should just shoot his head off and be done with it. It doesn't help that Cyclops usually just tries to defend himself when they attack him, and when a bigger and more important threat emerges, he'll be the one to suggest leaving the petty squabbling aside while they insist on giving snide remarks.

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* ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} is a similar case, as in recent years characters have became prone to calling him out on being a terrorist or war criminal thanks to his actions during events like ''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen''. While some fans sided with CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and {{Wolverine}} ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} in their condemnation of him, an equal number of fans (that has since grown) have protested that their treatment is unfair and hypocritical, especially given he spent half of the latter being corrupted by the Phoenix Force and wasn't harming anyone until they pushed him, and that the whole mess started because of Wolverine telling Cap not to trust Cyclops. A few years prior, when Wolverine and Cyclops argued, fanboys would cheer Wolverine on; now, they comment that Cyclops should just shoot his head off and be done with it. It doesn't help that Cyclops usually just tries to defend himself when they attack him, and when a bigger and more important threat emerges, he'll be the one to suggest leaving the petty squabbling aside while they insist on giving snide remarks.
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21st Jan '16 9:53:31 PM PerhapsAHuman
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The Designated Monkey is an unintentional ButtMonkey. They [[LoserArchetype constantly find themselves in horrible situations]]; the author appears to [[CallItKarma intend this to be karmic punishment]], but the audience (or a significant subgroup of it) thinks that it's out of proportion and will treat them as TheWoobie. This can create MoralDissonance or ValuesDissonance in the work, or it could mean that the fandom is [[MisaimedFandom misaimed]]. The audience may evend begin to wonder [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis whether the author is deliberately misrepresenting this character]] to prevent us from sympathizing with them.

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The Designated Monkey is an unintentional ButtMonkey. They [[LoserArchetype constantly find themselves in horrible situations]]; the author appears to [[CallItKarma intend this to be karmic punishment]], but the audience (or a significant subgroup of it) thinks that it's out of proportion and will treat them as TheWoobie. This can create MoralDissonance or ValuesDissonance in the work, or it could mean that the fandom is [[MisaimedFandom misaimed]]. The audience may evend even begin to wonder [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis whether the author is deliberately misrepresenting this character]] to prevent us from sympathizing with them.
20th Jan '16 5:48:58 PM kablammin45
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* WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} and WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer in the "Grounded" videos made in Website/GoAnimate, particularly those made by certain users. In most other "Grounded" videos, they often have their punishments coming, but other times, both their lives are just being made an utter ''hell'' by their family, friends, and even people who don't even know them the instant they step out of line, yet they're supposed to deserve it since they're [[PeripheryHatedom baby show]] characters. [[JerkassWoobie Several parts of the (both ironic and non-ironic) fandom beg to differ]].
23rd Dec '15 3:45:21 AM Doug86
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* Rigby in ''RegularShow'' who is kicked around by almost everyone, because he is small and tends to act like an immature twit, and has [[spoiler: died like 4 times (he got better each time though).]]

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* Rigby in ''RegularShow'' ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' who is kicked around by almost everyone, because he is small and tends to act like an immature twit, and has [[spoiler: died like 4 times (he got better each time though).]]
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