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27th May '16 9:38:37 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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* Blog/DasSporking has had to put up with a lot of them. The most well-known examples are Bella and Edward from ''Twilight'', and their expies Anastasia and Christian from ''Fifty Shades of Gray'', but there have been others, like Rose Potter.
6th May '16 7:14:41 AM MaulMachine
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** The point of the setting is that there are no good guys, and the Imperium is the perspective of the human factions. Individual ''characters'' may be heroic, however.
8th Apr '16 4:58:55 AM Vir
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** Barney himself says in a parody: "Damn it, Fred, I just want some of your f***ing cereal." This parody is from Robot Chicken, where Barney kills Fred for his cereal, then kills all the animal appliances for witnessing the crime, then gets hanged.

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** Barney himself says in a parody: "Damn it, Fred, I just want some of your f***ing cereal." This parody is from Robot Chicken, ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'', where Barney kills Fred for his cereal, then kills all the animal appliances for witnessing the crime, then gets hanged.
27th Mar '16 3:55:44 PM supergod
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* Almost every Pantheon in DungeonsAndDragons has fallen into this trope along with DesignatedVillain, primarily because for the sake of not filling half of every book with irrelevant details every god tends to have a favored race in addition to their alignment and domains in any given setting. Sometimes, the UnfortunateImplications are just [[AlwaysChaoticEvil kind of racist]], such as the Elves being almost universally created by an inherently good deity despite their racial history being just as (or more) bloody than 'neutral' humanity's or the 'evil' orcs'. At other times, the dissonance can be pretty jarring, such as inserting good-aligned Nature gods when the long game of the Druids, the most devoted followers of nature, is usually the [[OmnicidalManiac eventual genocide of every sentient race and the levelling of every city and farm]].
28th Feb '16 2:25:03 AM WhatRayDid
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* Almost every Pantheon in DungeonsAndDragons has fallen into this trope along with DesignatedVillain, primarily because for the sake of not filling half of every book with irrelevant details every god tends to have a favored race in addition to their alignment and domains in any given setting. Sometimes, the UnfortunateImplications are just [[AlwaysChaoticEvil kind of racist]], such as the Elves being almost universally created by an inherently good deity despite their racial history being just as (or more) bloody than 'neutral' humanity's or the 'evil' orcs'. At other times, the dissonance can be pretty jarring, such as inserting good-aligned Nature gods when the long game of the Druids, the most devoted followers of nature, is usually the [[OmnicidalManiac eventual genocide of every sentient race and the levelling of every city and farm]].
26th Feb '16 2:05:45 PM MiinU
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* ''Webcomic/MagickChicks'': Melissa was originally a character in ''Webcomic/EerieCuties'', where she was [[AlphaBitch an antagonist]] to Layla Delacroix, the school's [[LovableAlphaBitch most popular girl.]] Despite this, Mel and her coven became popular enough to be given their own SpinOff series, whose crux was to reform her. Except ''[[BeingGoodSucks she refused to change.]]'' Aside from occasional moments of heroism, she remained as shallow, petty, and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered]], as before.
25th Feb '16 12:52:49 PM MiinU
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*''Webcomic/MagickChicks'': Melissa was originally a character in ''Webcomic/EerieCuties'', where she was [[AlphaBitch an antagonist]] to Layla Delacroix, the school's [[LovableAlphaBitch most popular girl.]] Despite this, Mel and her coven became popular enough to be given their own SpinOff series, whose crux was to reform her. Except ''[[BeingGoodSucks she refused to change.]]'' Aside from occasional moments of heroism, she remained as shallow, petty, and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered]], as before.
6th Feb '16 7:11:27 AM kablammin45
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* In the "Grounded" videos made with ''Website/GoAnimate'', the grown ups are shown to be no better than the children they punish. This is especially if the punishment they give them is heavily excessive, which it usually is as it tends to be some huge arbitrary number. ** WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}}'s dad ([[FanNickname aka. Boris]]) tends to be the worst of the bunch as he tends to go AxCrazy with his punishments; groundings are one thing, other times he tends to put Caillou through a ''very'' painful HumiliationConga that can lead to ''death''. It's even worse in some videos where Caillou's dad grounds or tortures Caillou when Caillou wasn't even misbehaving, or sets Caillou up into situations where he'll misbehave and thus get grounded. Despite clearly being an utterly despicable psychopath, Boris is clearly meant to be the hero for putting Caillou in his place.

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* In the "Grounded" videos made with ''Website/GoAnimate'', the grown ups are shown to be no better than the children they punish. This is especially if the punishment they give them is heavily excessive, which it usually is as it tends to be some huge arbitrary number. number.
** WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}}'s dad ([[FanNickname aka. Boris]]) tends to be the worst of the bunch as he tends to go AxCrazy with his punishments; groundings are one thing, other times he tends to put Caillou through a ''very'' painful HumiliationConga that can lead to ''death''. It's even worse in some videos where Caillou's dad grounds or tortures Caillou when Caillou wasn't even misbehaving, or sets Caillou up into situations where he'll misbehave and thus get grounded. Despite clearly being an utterly despicable psychopath, Boris is clearly meant to be the hero for putting Caillou in his place.
6th Feb '16 7:10:52 AM kablammin45
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* In the "Grounded" videos made with ''Website/GoAnimate'', the grown ups are shown to be no better than the children they punish. This is especially if the punishment they give them is heavily excessive, which it usually is as it tends to be some huge arbitrary number. WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}}'s dad tends to be the worst of the bunch as he tends to go AxCrazy with his punishments; groundings are one thing, he tends to put Caillou through a ''very'' painful HumiliationConga that can lead to ''death''.

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* In the "Grounded" videos made with ''Website/GoAnimate'', the grown ups are shown to be no better than the children they punish. This is especially if the punishment they give them is heavily excessive, which it usually is as it tends to be some huge arbitrary number. ** WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}}'s dad ([[FanNickname aka. Boris]]) tends to be the worst of the bunch as he tends to go AxCrazy with his punishments; groundings are one thing, other times he tends to put Caillou through a ''very'' painful HumiliationConga that can lead to ''death''.''death''. It's even worse in some videos where Caillou's dad grounds or tortures Caillou when Caillou wasn't even misbehaving, or sets Caillou up into situations where he'll misbehave and thus get grounded. Despite clearly being an utterly despicable psychopath, Boris is clearly meant to be the hero for putting Caillou in his place.
3rd Feb '16 10:38:21 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: The Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium might as well be the poster boy of this trope. The only reason the Imperium of Man appears to be good guys is... well... because they are human. Beyond this they are xenophobic fascist anti-progress extremists that have committed just as many atrocities as any other faction. The closest thing the setting comes to actual good guys would be one of the more benevolent Chapters of SpaceMarines, such as [[SpaceRomans the Ultramarines]] or the [[ScaryBlackMan Salamanders]], just because they actually care about the lives of Human civilians enough to ''usually'' rate their defense of a world's population as being slightly more important than exterminating the enemy.
** The game's descriptions, however, tend to be self-parodies in many ways: all TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} fans accept that the setting is a zero-sum [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cosmos]] in which the cleverest strategists do not scruple to designate a planet of fluffy bunnies "acceptable losses." (Planets full of fluffy bunnies ''that breathe fire'' are a strategic asset, and might be worth defending.)
* Given the nature of the medium, anecdotes quite naturally circulate in tabletop RPG circles about both player and non-player characters like this. For a fairly basic example, the section "Confessions of a Hack and Slash Junkie" (which is ''actually'' about breaking out of that mold and creating memorable plots and villains) in the ''Fantasy Hero'' genre book for the 4th edition of the ''{{Hero System}}'' alludes to a slaughter of kobold children by the [=PCs=] of one of the author's past playing groups "because they aren't worth experience points alive".

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: The Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium might as well be the poster boy of this trope. The only reason the Imperium of Man appears to be good guys is... well... is because they are human. Beyond this they are xenophobic fascist xenophobic, fascist, anti-progress extremists that have committed just as many atrocities as any other faction. The closest thing the setting comes to actual good guys would be one of the more benevolent Chapters of SpaceMarines, such as [[SpaceRomans the Ultramarines]] or the [[ScaryBlackMan Salamanders]], just because they actually care about the lives of Human civilians enough to ''usually'' rate their defense of a world's population as being slightly more important than exterminating the enemy.
** The game's descriptions, however, tend to be self-parodies in many ways: all TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} fans accept that the setting is a zero-sum [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cosmos]] in which the cleverest strategists do not scruple to designate a planet of fluffy bunnies "acceptable losses." (Planets full of fluffy bunnies ''that breathe fire'' are a strategic asset, and might be worth defending.)
* Given the nature of the medium, anecdotes quite naturally circulate in tabletop RPG circles about both player and non-player characters like this. For a fairly basic example, the section "Confessions of a Hack and Slash Junkie" (which is ''actually'' about breaking out of that mold and creating memorable plots and villains) in the ''Fantasy Hero'' genre book for the 4th edition of the ''{{Hero System}}'' alludes to a slaughter of kobold children by the [=PCs=] of one of the author's past playing groups "because they aren't worth experience points alive".alive."



* Theatre/{{Hamlet}}. There's a fine line between being a TragicHero, an overall good person undone by a FatalFlaw, and being a DesignatedHero, a character treated by the narrative as a hero despite doing nothing heroic, and it's a [[CrossesTheLineTwice line Hamlet crosses more than twice.]] After learning from the ghost of his father that his father was murdered by Claudius, Hamlet spends the next Act or so mocking and taunting Polonius, Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern, while also verbally abusing and SlutShaming Ophelia, despite that they had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the murder of Hamlet's father. When Hamlet finally does something, he murders Polonius because he heard a voice behind some curtains and jumps to the conclusion that it must be Claudius. He then hides the body and jokes that everybody will smell him soon enough. This murder drives Ophelia to insanity and her death (she may even have been DrivenToSuicide). Hamlet then deliberately brings about the deaths of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern [[DesignatedVillain despite little to no evidence that they actually did anything wrong.]] He finally gets around to the one person he was supposed to be killing, Claudius, only after the latter has poisoned Gertrude and gotten Laertes to poison Hamlet who then gets accidentally poisoned by Hamlet. So it could be argued that every death that occurs from the start of the play onward is all Hamlet's fault.

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* Theatre/{{Hamlet}}. There's a fine line between being a TragicHero, an overall good person undone by a FatalFlaw, and being a DesignatedHero, a character treated by the narrative as a hero despite doing nothing heroic, and it's a [[CrossesTheLineTwice line Hamlet crosses more than twice.]] After learning from the ghost of his father that his father was murdered by Claudius, Hamlet spends the next Act act or so mocking and taunting Polonius, Rosencrantz, and Guildenstern, while also verbally abusing and SlutShaming Ophelia, despite that they had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the murder of Hamlet's father. When Hamlet finally does something, he murders Polonius because he heard a voice behind some curtains and jumps to the conclusion that it must be Claudius. He then hides the body and jokes that everybody will smell him soon enough. This murder drives Ophelia to insanity and her death (she may even have been DrivenToSuicide). Hamlet then deliberately brings about the deaths of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern [[DesignatedVillain despite little to no evidence that they actually did anything wrong.]] He finally gets around to the one person he was supposed to be killing, Claudius, only after the latter has poisoned Gertrude and gotten Laertes to poison Hamlet who then gets accidentally poisoned by Hamlet. So it could be argued that every death that occurs from the start of the play onward is all Hamlet's fault.
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