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24th Mar '17 7:14:04 PM WanderingBrowser
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** Out of universe, though, there is a huge fandom war over whether or not Beasts count as this, with many fans taking afront to the way the game portrays Beasts as sympathetic when they terrorize and torment others to feed on their fear.



** Likewise the Silver Fangs tribe, whose defining trait is also FantasticRacism, but of the belief that werewolves are a SuperiorSpecies who should be ruling over humanity, and that their own "superior" lineage means they should be ruling over werewolves. Not only do they have a strong AristocratsAreEvil vibe, but their beliefs actually made them collaborators with the Nazi regime, a stain they still haven't overcome InUniverse and with several editions of attempts to fix them. As with the Red Talons, they served as the foundation for one of the villainous factions in SpiritualSuccessor ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken'': their heirs are the Ivory Claws, who're an entire tribe that are as close to unrepentant werewolf NaziNobleman as you can get without them actually running around with swastikas. Speaking of which, it hasn't gone unnoticed that the Silver Fangs tribal symbol looks a lot like a swastika...



* Jay Naylor, author of ''BetterDays'', actually created a porn series sold online called "Haukaiu the Hero". People have pointed out that the title character hasn't done ''anything'' heroic, by either the old use or the current one, but has in fact so far been so blatantly unheroic as to not really care that his brain-damaged mother is being used as a sex toy by the men of the village. It is a ''porn'' series, so it's not really supposed to make sense to begin with, and the series are still incomplete, but still...

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* Jay Naylor, author of ''BetterDays'', ''Webcomic/BetterDays'', actually created a porn series sold online called "Haukaiu the Hero". People have pointed out that the title character hasn't done ''anything'' heroic, by either the old use or the current one, but has in fact so far been so blatantly unheroic as to not really care that his brain-damaged mother is being used as a sex toy by the men of the village. It is a ''porn'' series, so it's not really supposed to make sense to begin with, and the series are still incomplete, but still...
18th Mar '17 5:48:41 PM nombretomado
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* Mutants in the WhateleyUniverse. A number of the mutant characters seem to hold the opinion that mutants are just another minority, cruelly segregated and persecuted by 'normal' people... which, to be fair, is true, except for the fact that most mutants have powers that could easily kill a baseline, many at the school are living weapons of mass destruction, and the superheroes can be deadly- for instance, the case of the Flying Bulldozer, who tried to stop his long-time nemesis by throwing cars at him. It worked, while injuring dozens and causing over a million dollars of damages.

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* Mutants in the WhateleyUniverse.Literature/WhateleyUniverse. A number of the mutant characters seem to hold the opinion that mutants are just another minority, cruelly segregated and persecuted by 'normal' people... which, to be fair, is true, except for the fact that most mutants have powers that could easily kill a baseline, many at the school are living weapons of mass destruction, and the superheroes can be deadly- for instance, the case of the Flying Bulldozer, who tried to stop his long-time nemesis by throwing cars at him. It worked, while injuring dozens and causing over a million dollars of damages.



* A lot of people felt this about Meridell in {{Neopets}}' Meridell/Darigan war: The shiny, pretty town of Meridell is threatened by the evil, ominous Darigan Citadel. Lord Darigan demands that Meridell give him their magic orb and makes it clear that he'll not take no for an answer. Obviously, we're meant to side with Meridell... except that the orb originally belonged to ''Darigan'', and was stolen from him by the people of Meridell, so he understandably wants his property back- and while it's true that Meridell stole the orb only because they were doomed if they didn't, apparently nobody realised that if having the orb will make your land prosper, then maybe taking it from somebody else is a dick move.

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* A lot of people felt this about Meridell in {{Neopets}}' {{Website/Neopets}}' Meridell/Darigan war: The shiny, pretty town of Meridell is threatened by the evil, ominous Darigan Citadel. Lord Darigan demands that Meridell give him their magic orb and makes it clear that he'll not take no for an answer. Obviously, we're meant to side with Meridell... except that the orb originally belonged to ''Darigan'', and was stolen from him by the people of Meridell, so he understandably wants his property back- and while it's true that Meridell stole the orb only because they were doomed if they didn't, apparently nobody realised that if having the orb will make your land prosper, then maybe taking it from somebody else is a dick move.
17th Mar '17 10:19:41 PM WanderingBrowser
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* This is the most common fan perception of the Red Talons from ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse''. Although they are probably ''intended'' to be see as the TokenEvilTeammate, the fact of the matter that they're an entire Tribe whose hat is embracing the anti-human FantasticRacism aspects of the setting and whose near-universal goal is the reduction of humanity back to Stone Age-level hunter-gatherers, if not its outright extermination, means most fans regard them with great distaste and they are near-universally banned as a player option. It's telling that their creed is used with fairly minimal changes as the philosophy of an outright ''villain'' faction, the Predator Kings, in SpiritualSuccessor ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken''.
7th Mar '17 1:54:42 PM NumberFortyFour
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* Myths in general can be subject to this, since different societies have [[ValuesDissonance different ideas]] about what being a "hero" means. For example, Perseus is deemed a "hero" for slaughtering Medusa in her sleep, despite the fact that the gorgons are not actively malicious and generally leave everyone alone as long as they don't break into their lair and try to kill them. Perseus's only motive for doing this? To prove himself to his Jerkass stepdad who just wanted an excuse to send him away.

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* Myths in general can be subject to this, since different societies have [[ValuesDissonance different ideas]] about what being a "hero" means. For example, Perseus is deemed a "hero" for slaughtering Medusa in her sleep, despite the fact that the gorgons are not actively malicious and generally leave everyone alone as long as they don't break into their lair and try to kill them. Perseus's only motive for doing this? To prove himself to his Jerkass {{Jerkass}} stepdad who just wanted an excuse to send him away.
7th Mar '17 1:52:29 PM NumberFortyFour
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* Myths in general can be subject to this, since different societies have [[ValuesDissonance different ideas]] about what being a "hero" means. For example, Perseus is deemed a "hero" for slaughtering Medusa in her sleep, despite the fact that the gorgons are not actively malicious and generally leave everyone alone as long as they don't break into their lair and try to kill them. Perseus's only motive for doing this? To prove himself to his Jerkass stepdad who just wanted an excuse to send him away.
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24th Feb '17 3:30:06 AM TommyTiger
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** It's gotten to the point where if the Trix Rabbit even DREAMS of enjoying Trix products, the kids come along and steal them away.

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** It's gotten to the point where if the Trix Rabbit even DREAMS dreams of enjoying Trix products, the kids come along and steal them away.



** In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhOqikF9cic one ad,]] he went as far as to disguise himself as a villain called the Purple Phantom and told Fred that Barney was being held hostage. That's right, Barney uses the very friendship he has with Fred as a tool to get Fred to hand over a box of cereal. Jackass.

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** In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhOqikF9cic one ad,]] he went as far as to disguise himself as a villain called the Purple Phantom and told Fred that Barney was being held hostage. That's right, Barney uses the very friendship he has with Fred as a tool to get Fred to hand over a box of cereal. Jackass.
23rd Feb '17 11:29:53 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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* The player characters in ''Racial Holy War'' (which somehow manages to suck even worse than the the title implies) are White Warriors- the last hope of the dying white race, out to cleanse the world of evil Latinos (which the game constantly misspells as 'latrinos'), blacks, Asians, middle easterners, and of course [[GreedyJew Jews]]. And even aside from that, the totally broken rules mean that they are corrupt enough to accept bribes not to attack ''in the middle of combat'' (Jews have the 'special attack' of bribing PCs to skip their turn), and [[DirtyCoward will run whenever they're outnumbered, even if it's by babies]] (the MoraleMechanic doesn't account for anything other than number of combatants).
7th Jan '17 12:40:11 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Not to be confused with TheChosenOne, though they can occasionally overlap. [[AccidentalHero Accidental Heroes]] do accomplish heroic things, but not intentionally. If the character is publicly perceived as a Hero, but is still shown to be villainous within the narrative context of the work, then he's a VillainWithGoodPublicity. For a character who is an utter [=Jerkass=], but still ultimately heroic, see GoodIsNotNice. For a morally ambiguous character who is ''intended'' to be seen as such by the audience, see {{antihero}} and its related subtropes. Can also be related to BitchInSheepsClothing, where a character who seems like a nice person turns out to be a mean person deep down.

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Not to be confused with TheChosenOne, though they can occasionally overlap. [[AccidentalHero Accidental Heroes]] do accomplish heroic things, but not intentionally. If the character is publicly perceived as a Hero, but is still shown to be villainous within the narrative context of the work, then he's a VillainWithGoodPublicity. For a character who is an utter [=Jerkass=], {{Jerkass}}, but still ultimately heroic, see GoodIsNotNice. For a morally ambiguous character who is ''intended'' to be seen as such by the audience, see {{antihero}} and its related subtropes. Can also be related to BitchInSheepsClothing, where a character who seems like a nice person turns out to be a mean person deep down.



* ''WesternAnimation/BebesKids''. Seriously, they destroy a theme park and cause trouble for many innocent people there, yet they never get punished for it. Worse, the audience is expected not to think badly of them because they have a poor life and have "attitude." In the original stand up routine the movie was based on, they were clearly the antagonists. Robin Harris was criticizing irresponsible parents who were too selfish to raise and discipline their ill-behaved children. Also, Robin Harris' character in the movie ALSO qualifies for this trope; generally acting like a major [=Jerkass=] to everyone yet actually being praised as a good guy despite doing nothing good whatsoever.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BebesKids''. Seriously, they destroy a theme park and cause trouble for many innocent people there, yet they never get punished for it. Worse, the audience is expected not to think badly of them because they have a poor life and have "attitude." In the original stand up routine the movie was based on, they were clearly the antagonists. Robin Harris was criticizing irresponsible parents who were too selfish to raise and discipline their ill-behaved children. Also, Robin Harris' character in the movie ALSO qualifies for this trope; generally acting like a major [=Jerkass=] {{Jerkass to everyone yet actually being praised as a good guy despite doing nothing good whatsoever.



** Snake was supposed to be a likeable anti-hero [[Film/EscapeFromNewYork just like his inspiration]], but unlike his namesake he didn't have as much of a context to act the way he did (Snake Plissken at least had the excuse of living in a crime-filled post-apocalyptic future). As a result, he ended up coming off as a complete [=Jerkass=]. To add insult to injury, the guy who was supposed to be a low-life scumbag in comparison ended up being a DesignatedVictim, seeing as Snake's motivation for wanting to beat him up seemed incredibly weak.

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** Snake was supposed to be a likeable anti-hero [[Film/EscapeFromNewYork just like his inspiration]], but unlike his namesake he didn't have as much of a context to act the way he did (Snake Plissken at least had the excuse of living in a crime-filled post-apocalyptic future). As a result, he ended up coming off as a complete [=Jerkass=].{{Jerkass}}. To add insult to injury, the guy who was supposed to be a low-life scumbag in comparison ended up being a DesignatedVictim, seeing as Snake's motivation for wanting to beat him up seemed incredibly weak.
7th Jan '17 12:31:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''BebesKids''. Seriously, they destroy a theme park and cause trouble for many innocent people there, yet they never get punished for it. Worse, the audience is expected not to think badly of them because they have a poor life and have "attitude." In the original stand up routine the movie was based on, they were clearly the antagonists. Robin Harris was criticizing irresponsible parents who were too selfish to raise and discipline their ill-behaved children. Also, Robin Harris' character in the movie ALSO qualifies for this trope; generally acting like a major [=Jerkass=] to everyone yet actually being praised as a good guy despite doing nothing good whatsoever.

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* ''BebesKids''.''WesternAnimation/BebesKids''. Seriously, they destroy a theme park and cause trouble for many innocent people there, yet they never get punished for it. Worse, the audience is expected not to think badly of them because they have a poor life and have "attitude." In the original stand up routine the movie was based on, they were clearly the antagonists. Robin Harris was criticizing irresponsible parents who were too selfish to raise and discipline their ill-behaved children. Also, Robin Harris' character in the movie ALSO qualifies for this trope; generally acting like a major [=Jerkass=] to everyone yet actually being praised as a good guy despite doing nothing good whatsoever.
20th Dec '16 2:17:08 PM kataangluvr
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* Crystal from ''Dear Santa'' to the Nth degree. She's a spoiled fashionista who mooches off her parents rather than do something like get a job of her own or find a man. On the day that her mother announces that Crystal is going to be cut off from them, she finds a [[TitlteDrop "Dear Santa"]] letter from a little girl who wishes for her father to find a woman to make him smile like her mother used to. Crystal uses this opportunity to stalk this single family that she just heard of and unknowingly volunteers at the father's soup kitchen. Once she learns that he has a supportive girlfriend who's been with him since his wife's death, she does everything she can to ruin the relationship so that she can have a chance with him. It doesn't really help that the girlfriend, Jillian, is treated as the DesignatedVillain simply because she's dating the father and she's known him for years while Crystal has known him for a few weeks.
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