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22nd Mar '17 9:12:21 PM Sonofstranger
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** Ditto with Simon Blackquill and Nahyuta Sahdmadhi from ''Dual Destinies'' and ''Spirit of Justice'': both come to respect the members of the Wright Anything Agency for their aptitude in the courtroom and personally come to the WAA and the Justice Law Offices with defense requests.
22nd Mar '17 7:13:12 PM iowaforever
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* While their fight was a draw, WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack and the Scotsman become good friends after fighting one another and then teaming up to fight off some bounty hunters that had been chasing them.
18th Mar '17 7:05:29 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Battle For Meridell'', a game available on the website {{Franchise/Neopets}}, you battle monster versions of the species you can fight as. When defeated, they turn good and fight for you. This also works both ways, as them defeating one of your characters turns them evil (and makes them lose any equipment they were carrying).

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* In ''Battle For Meridell'', a game available on the website {{Franchise/Neopets}}, {{Website/Neopets}}, you battle monster versions of the species you can fight as. When defeated, they turn good and fight for you. This also works both ways, as them defeating one of your characters turns them evil (and makes them lose any equipment they were carrying).
16th Mar '17 12:37:29 PM flip619
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* The treatment the Axis Powers received from the western allies after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. After just seven years of punishing UsefulNotes/WestGermany by keeping the country poor and powerless (as per the 'Morgenthau Plan', which was publicly disavowed but partially enacted), the US extended their general western-European investment drive ('The Marshall Program') to them as well and even released high-ranking ex-Nazi officers from prison (including Erich von Manstein, who had been imprisoned for war crimes against POW and civilians but was released early) so they could found a new German military. The result? A German military that helped redress the BalanceOfPower in Europe against the UsefulNotes/WarsawPact, and more than 60 years of mutual prosperity and relative peace between the former Axis powers and their conquerors. And Japan, following its surrender and the subsequent drafting of its non-aggression constitution, quickly became an ally of the West after [[UsefulNotes/MaoZedong Chairman Mao]] seized power in mainland China, and the outbreak of UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar. Today, Germany, Italy and Japan are three of the biggest economic powerhouses in the world and the centers of two of the world's foremost currencies (euro and yen, respectively). This wasn't out of altruism, but more of out UsefulNotes/ColdWar strategy. The U.S. [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks maintains a number of bases]] in both Europe and Asia to project power into Russia and China. And at a more personal level, a number of friendships sprang up between surviving German fighter pilots and their one-time opponents; most famously, German ace Adolf Galland. The famously comfortable circumstances of Anglo-American POW (who were neither used for slave labour nor exterminated) meant that some former-POW and camp-guards also became friends. At a higher level, former Wehrmacht generals like Erich von Manstein cultivated friendships with people such as Captain Sir Basil Hart (who published Rommel's Diaries in English, a notable best-seller of the early '50s).[[note]]The friendships between senior or influential British and German officers predated UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2. There's a reason why the brilliant but maverick Liddell-Hart was refused more than nominal service in UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 and remained a captain in 1945. Along with Major-General Fuller, the man who originated the Blitzkrieg military strategy later perfected by the Germans, he was considered too unreliable for service and a dangerous Nazi sympathiser. Their close pre-war contacts with senior Germans rang all the alarm bells. As did their association with [[Creator/AleisterCrowley ritual occultism]]. German general Heinz Guderian, the man who made the British-originated Blitzkreig concept work in practice, dedicated ''his'' autobiography to ''my close friend, Basil Liddell-Hart''.[[/note]]

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* The United States has a long history of turning bitter enemies into battle buddies, going back to practically its founding.
** Britain. After fighting UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution and the UsefulNotes/WarOf1812 with the USA, relations between the two have been quite peaceful. Even before the War of 1812, UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton was a big advocate of this as a way to develop America's commercial economy, though his preferred policies didn't go over that well in the climate of Anglophobia immediately following the Revolutionary War. This doesn't mean that tensions disappeared right away, however. There were still occasional squabbles throughout the middle of the 19th century, particularly disputes over the border with Canada. The major border issues were settled by 1850, and at the same time Anglo-American cooperation started to get going; the original Monroe Doctrine, articulated in 1823, served the purposes and had the tacit support of the British, which is why it was taken somewhat seriously by the European powers. The growing trade relationship between the US and Britain--and between the US and Canada--also factored in, and by the 1880s the US and Britain were warily inching towards the alliance that would come to develop over the past century. America's aid helped in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, but it was America's involvement in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, providing much-needed support to British troops who had held off a full-scale German invasion longer than any other nation besides Russia, that sealed the two nations' alliance. Since the days of Churchill and FDR, the US and UK have become nigh-inseparable, and have by far the strongest diplomatic and military alliance of any two autonomous nations in the civilized world.
** Played straight with white Northern and Southerners after the end of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, unlike some other places where a civil war leads to a CycleOfRevenge. Unfortunately it was done at the expense of America's black population, who lost a lot of the initial gains (there were several black members of Congress during Reconstruction, and many black members of southern state governments; after that it was effective disenfranchisement and Jim Crow suppression in the South, and a refusal to recognize black contributions to the Union cause during the Civil War) they had made post-war.
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The treatment the Axis Powers received from the western allies after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. After just seven years of punishing UsefulNotes/WestGermany by keeping the country poor and powerless (as per the 'Morgenthau Plan', which was publicly disavowed but partially enacted), the US extended their general western-European investment drive ('The Marshall Program') to them as well and even released high-ranking ex-Nazi officers from prison (including Erich von Manstein, who had been imprisoned for war crimes against POW and civilians but was released early) so they could found a new German military. The result? A German military that helped redress the BalanceOfPower in Europe against the UsefulNotes/WarsawPact, and more than 60 years of mutual prosperity and relative peace between the former Axis powers and their conquerors. And Japan, following its surrender and the subsequent drafting of its non-aggression constitution, quickly became an ally of the West after [[UsefulNotes/MaoZedong Chairman Mao]] seized power in mainland China, and the outbreak of UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar. Today, Germany, Italy and Japan are three of the biggest economic powerhouses in the world and the centers of two of the world's foremost currencies (euro and yen, respectively). This wasn't out of altruism, but more of out UsefulNotes/ColdWar strategy. The U.S. US [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks maintains a number of bases]] in both Europe and Asia to project power into facing threats of domination from Russia and China. And at a more personal level, a number of friendships sprang up between surviving German fighter pilots and their one-time opponents; most famously, German ace Adolf Galland. The famously comfortable circumstances of Anglo-American POW (who were neither used for slave labour nor exterminated) meant that some former-POW and camp-guards also became friends. At a higher level, former Wehrmacht generals like Erich von Manstein cultivated friendships with people such as Captain Sir Basil Hart (who published Rommel's Diaries in English, a notable best-seller of the early '50s).[[note]]The friendships between senior or influential British and German officers predated UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2. There's a reason why the brilliant but maverick Liddell-Hart was refused more than nominal service in UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 and remained a captain in 1945. Along with Major-General Fuller, the man who originated the Blitzkrieg military strategy later perfected by the Germans, he was considered too unreliable for service and a dangerous Nazi sympathiser. Their close pre-war contacts with senior Germans rang all the alarm bells. As did their association with [[Creator/AleisterCrowley ritual occultism]]. German general Heinz Guderian, the man who made the British-originated Blitzkreig concept work in practice, dedicated ''his'' autobiography to ''my close friend, Basil Liddell-Hart''.[[/note]][[/note]]
** Believe it or not, the US and Vietnam are fast approaching this today (although it's more like "Stalemate equals Friendship"). The Vietnamese, although obviously not pleased at the [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar American intervention in their country]], very quickly entered the good graces of the US after TheGreatPoliticsMessUp.[[note]]The Vietnamese see the American intervention as only one chapter in their struggle for independence, after fighting off Japan, then France, and nowadays against China.[[/note]] Currently, the US is Vietnam's largest trading partner (unless you count the whole EU as one unit, in which case the US is second), and the US and Vietnam cooperate on regional issues in Southeast Asia, including tacit US support for Vietnam's position in their numerous maritime border disputes with China. The US assiduously courted Vietnam in the 1990s, and that Vietnam has far less animosity with the US than with China -- which has invaded and occupied the country several times over the past...oh...[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam two]] ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam thousand]]'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam frickin']] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam years]],[[note]]and those are only the times the Chinese actively tried to take over the whole country and succeeded[[/note]] most recently in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War 1979]], and has been trying to mess with Hanoi's business quite blatantly for decades. Today, Vietnam is one of the most ''pro''-American countries in all Asia, with a whopping ''71%'' of Vietnamese having a positive image of the US. (This amusingly for those not directly involved causes trouble with the Vietnamese American community, who are overwhelmingly anticommunists from South Vietnam and not happy with the ''rapprochement'' and its symbols, like acceptance of the current official Vietnamese flag).



* Britain. After fighting UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution and the UsefulNotes/WarOf1812 with the USA, relations between the two have been quite peaceful. Even before the War of 1812, UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton was a big advocate of this as a way to develop America's commercial economy, though his preferred policies didn't go over that well in the climate of Anglophobia immediately following the Revolutionary War. This doesn't mean that tensions disappeared right away, however. There were still occasional squabbles throughout the middle of the 19th century, particularly disputes over the border with Canada. The major border issues were settled by 1850, and at the same time Anglo-American cooperation started to get going; the original Monroe Doctrine, articulated in 1823, served the purposes and had the tacit support of the British, which is why it was taken somewhat seriously by the European powers. The growing trade relationship between the US and Britain--and between the US and Canada--also factored in, and by the 1880s the US and Britain were warily inching towards the alliance that would come to develop over the past century. America's aid helped in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, but it was America's involvement in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, providing much-needed support to British troops who had held off a full-scale German invasion longer than any other nation besides Russia, that sealed the two nations' alliance. Since the days of Churchill and FDR, the US and UK have become nigh-inseparable, and have by far the strongest diplomatic and military alliance of any two autonomous nations in the civilized world.



* In one of the most epic boxing matches ever, George Foreman was defeated by UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli in 1974. The two became good friends afterward. Another boxing example is Micky Ward and Arturo Gatti, who had three memorable fights in the 2000s and became friends, with Ward even becoming Gatti's trainer until the Italian died in 2009.
* Creator/HowardStern often gained the praises or at least acceptance of many former radio and celebrity rivals once he established his ratings supremacy and celebrity credibility.
* The first encounter of Turkey and Australia was on opposing sides of a battlefield in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. The conflict was both fierce and gentlemanly - an odd combination which, despite the eventual defeat of the Australian forces, created a bond of mutual respect, admiration, and friendship between the nations which continues to this day. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_Atatürk_Memorial,_Canberra#/media/File:AS_Kemal_Ataturk_3.jpg Ataturk Memorial]] is a perfect encapsulation of these ties.
* UsefulNotes/JohnAdams, who had defeated UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson for the presidency in 1796, refused to attend Jefferson's inauguration after Jefferson was elected President in the 1800 election. In 1812, Adams reconciled with Jefferson by postal correspondence until they died several hours apart on July 4, 1826, the fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.



* The trope was still played straight with white Northern and Southerners after the end of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar, unlike some other places where a civil war leads to a CycleOfRevenge. Unfortunately it was done at the expense of America's black population, who lost a lot of the initial gains (there were several black members of Congress during Reconstruction, and many black members of southern state governments; after that it was effective disenfranchisement and Jim Crow in the south, and a refusal to recognize black contributions to the Union cause during the Civil War) they had made post-war.
* In one of the most epic boxing matches ever, George Foreman was defeated by UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli in 1974. The two became good friends afterward. Another boxing example is Micky Ward and Arturo Gatti, who had three memorable fights in the 2000s and became friends, with Ward even becoming Gatti's trainer until the Italian died in 2009.
* Creator/HowardStern often gained the praises or at least acceptance of many former radio and celebrity rivals once he established his ratings supremacy and celebrity credibility.
* The first encounter of Turkey and Australia was on opposing sides of a battlefield in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. The conflict was both fierce and gentlemanly - an odd combination which, despite the eventual defeat of the Australian forces, created a bond of mutual respect, admiration, and friendship between the nations which continues to this day. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_Atatürk_Memorial,_Canberra#/media/File:AS_Kemal_Ataturk_3.jpg Ataturk Memorial]] is a perfect encapsulation of these ties.
* UsefulNotes/JohnAdams, who had defeated UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson for the presidency in 1796, refused to attend Jefferson's inauguration after Jefferson was elected President in the 1800 election. In 1812, Adams reconciled with Jefferson by postal correspondence until they died several hours apart on July 4, 1826, the fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.



* Believe it or not, the US and Vietnam are fast approaching this today (although it's more like "Stalemate equals friendship"). The Vietnamese, although obviously not pleased at the [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar American intervention in their country]], very quickly entered the good graces of the US after TheGreatPoliticsMessUp. Currently, the US is Vietnam's largest trading partner (unless you count the whole EU as one unit, in which case the US is second), and the US and Vietnam cooperate on regional issues in Southeast Asia--including tacit US support for Vietnam's position in their numerous maritime border disputes with China. The US assiduously courted Vietnam in the 1990s, and that Vietnam has much bigger issues with China--which has invaded and occupied the country several times over the past...oh...[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam two]] ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam thousand]]'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam frickin']] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Chinese_domination_of_Vietnam years]],[[note]]and those are only the times the Chinese actively tried to take over the whole country and succeeded[[/note]] most recently in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War 1979]], and has been trying to mess with Hanoi's business quite blatantly for decades--than with the US. Today, Vietnam is one of the most ''pro''-American countries in all Asia, with a whopping ''71%'' of Vietnamese having a positive image of the US. (This amusingly for those not directly involved causes trouble with the Vietnamese American community, who are overwhelmingly anticommunists from South Vietnam and not happy with the ''rapprochement'' and its symbols, like acceptance of the current official Vietnamese flag).
15th Mar '17 9:35:10 PM merotoker
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* Since it is based on history, the countries of AxisPowersHetalia sometimes fight wars against each other, only to become allies later.

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* Since it is based on history, the countries of AxisPowersHetalia ''WebComic/AxisPowersHetalia'' sometimes fight wars against each other, only to become allies later.



** The current title of most befriended goes to Vivio, who took the title from Fate when [[spoiler:she received five [[WaveMotionGun Starlight Breakers]] ''at the same time'' and managed to remain conscious ''and'' stand on her own afterwards. A considerable feat since Fate couldn't even claim that when Nanoha struck her with one.]] Nanoha officially adopts Vivio as her daughter afterwards.

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** The current title of most befriended goes to Vivio, who took the title from Fate when [[spoiler:she received five [[WaveMotionGun Starlight Breakers]] ''at the same time'' and managed to remain conscious ''and'' stand on her own afterwards. A considerable feat since Fate couldn't even claim that when Nanoha struck her with one.]] one]]. Nanoha officially adopts Vivio as her daughter afterwards.



** Since ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' is a huge InternalDeconstruction of the entire franchise, this trope gets [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]], [[AvertedTrope averted]], [[ExploitedTrope exploited]], [[InvokedTrope invoked]], and in a few cases [[ReconstructedTrope reconstructed]]. The reconstructions can be counted on one hand, but they occur because:

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** Since ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' is a huge InternalDeconstruction of the entire franchise, this trope gets [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]], [[AvertedTrope averted]], [[ExploitedTrope exploited]], [[InvokedTrope invoked]], {{deconstructed|Trope}}, {{averted|Trope}}, {{exploited|Trope}}, {{invoked|Trope}}, and in a few cases [[ReconstructedTrope reconstructed]].{{reconstructed|Trope}}. The reconstructions can be counted on one hand, but they occur because:



* It would take less time to list the antagonists in ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'' that didn't do this than take the time to list those that did. Suffice it to say, by the final arc, there were 30-some good guys.
** Ditto for its full-series {{Expy}}, ''[[Anime/{{Bakugan}} Bakugan Battle Brawlers]]''.

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* It would take less time to list the antagonists in ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'' that didn't do this than take the time to list those that did. Suffice it to say, by the final arc, there were 30-some good guys.
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guys. Ditto for its full-series {{Expy}}, ''[[Anime/{{Bakugan}} Bakugan Battle Brawlers]]''.



* A strange semi-example in a bit of [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Star Wars Manga]] - yes, there is ''Franchise/StarWars'' manga ([[CanonDiscontinuity although it's non-canon, meaning it didn't happen]] ) - happened when Darth Vader slaughters a group of hidden Jedi, sparing the last one - a very young boy named [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tao Tao]] - because the kid's anger and horror is so strong that it hints at serious Dark Side potential. He takes the boy as a secret apprentice (rather creepier than [[VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed Starkiller]]), and though Vader killed Tao's family and razed his world, Tao somehow can't really hate Vader. Even when the Emperor finds out and has Vader kill him - really, he was OnlyMostlyDead, and Tao was able to save his master from something else before dying happy, since Vader took him back to his razed homeworld to be buried.... The whole thing comes off as {{Shotacon}}-ish fanfiction that stops just short of actual sex. Still, after having his people killed and being curb-stomped by the Dark Lord, Tao randomly became very loyal, and Vader for his part [[MoralityPet went a little soft]].

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* A strange semi-example in a bit of [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Star Wars Manga]] - yes, there is ''Franchise/StarWars'' manga ([[CanonDiscontinuity although it's non-canon, meaning it didn't happen]] ) happen]]) - happened when Darth Vader slaughters a group of hidden Jedi, sparing the last one - a very young boy named [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tao com/wiki/Tao_(Jedi) Tao]] - because the kid's anger and horror is so strong that it hints at serious Dark Side potential. He takes the boy as a secret apprentice (rather creepier than [[VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed Starkiller]]), and though Vader killed Tao's family and razed his world, Tao somehow can't really hate Vader. Even when the Emperor finds out and has Vader kill him - really, he was OnlyMostlyDead, and Tao was able to save his master from something else before dying happy, since Vader took him back to his razed homeworld to be buried.... The whole thing comes off as {{Shotacon}}-ish fanfiction that stops just short of actual sex. Still, after having his people killed and being curb-stomped by the Dark Lord, Tao randomly became very loyal, and Vader for his part [[MoralityPet went a little soft]].



* On ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', Anya's first two appearances have her as the (or one of the) villains of the episode.

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* On ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
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Anya's first two appearances have her as the (or one of the) villains of the episode.



* Invoked on ''Series/BurnNotice'', when Michael has to gain the trust of an enforcer for the Russian Mob that he has captured. He pretends to be another member, locked in the same cell. They fight, and, typical on this show, Michael narrates the action by describing the importance of learning Russian martial arts if you're going to pretend to be Russian.

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* ''Series/BurnNotice'':
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Invoked on ''Series/BurnNotice'', when Michael has to gain the trust of an enforcer for the Russian Mob that he has captured. He pretends to be another member, locked in the same cell. They fight, and, typical on this show, Michael narrates the action by describing the importance of learning Russian martial arts if you're going to pretend to be Russian.



** This trope finally got {{averted}} with ''Double Dealing Character'''s BigBad, Seija Kijin, who got the societal upheaval plot of the game rolling by [[ManipulativeBitch manipulating]] [[UnwittingPawn Shinmyoumaru Sukuna]] into doing her bidding. As it turns out, in ''Impossible Spell Card'', following the events of DDC, she was branded an outlaw and hunted by ''everyone'' for all the shit she stirred up. However, Seija is [[BadIsGoodAndGoodIsBad so contrarian]], enemies basically ''are'' friends from her point of view.

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** This trope finally got {{averted}} {{averted|Trope}} with ''Double Dealing Character'''s BigBad, Seija Kijin, who got the societal upheaval plot of the game rolling by [[ManipulativeBitch manipulating]] [[UnwittingPawn Shinmyoumaru Sukuna]] into doing her bidding. As it turns out, in ''Impossible Spell Card'', following the events of DDC, she was branded an outlaw and hunted by ''everyone'' for all the shit she stirred up. However, Seija is [[BadIsGoodAndGoodIsBad so contrarian]], enemies basically ''are'' friends from her point of view.



* The treatment the Axis Powers received from the western allies after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. After just seven years of punishing UsefulNotes/WestGermany by keeping the country poor and powerless (as per the 'Morgenthau Plan', which was publicly disavowed but partially enacted), the US extended their general western-European investment drive ('The Marshall Program') to them as well and even released high-ranking ex-Nazi officers from prison (including Erich von Manstein, who had been imprisoned for war crimes against POW and civilians but was released early) so they could found a new German military. The result? A German military that helped redress the BalanceOfPower in Europe against the UsefulNotes/WarsawPact, and more than 60 years of mutual prosperity and relative peace between the former Axis powers and their conquerors. And Japan, following its surrender and the subsequent drafting of its non-aggression constitution, quickly became an ally of the West after [[UsefulNotes/MaoZedong Chairman Mao]] seized power in mainland China, and the outbreak of UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar. Today, Germany, Italy and Japan are three of the biggest economic powerhouses in the world and the centers of two of the world's foremost currencies (euro and yen, respectively). This wasn't out of altruism, but more of out UsefulNotes/ColdWar strategy. The U.S. [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks maintains a number of bases]] in both Europe and Asia to project power into Russia and China. And at a more personal level, a number of friendships sprang up between surviving German fighter pilots and their one-time opponents; most famously, German ace Adolf Galland. The famously comfortable circumstances of Anglo-American POW (who were neither used for slave labour nor exterminated) meant that some former-POW and camp-guards also became friends. At a higher level, former Wehrmacht generals like Erich von Manstein cultivated friendships with people such as Captain Sir Basil Hart (who published Rommel's Diaries in English, a notable best-seller of the early '50s).[[note]]The friendships between senior or influential British and German officers predated UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2. There's a reason why the brilliant but maverick Liddell-Hart was refused more than nominal service in UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 and remained a captain in 1945. Along with Major-General Fuller, the man who originated the Blitzkrieg miltary strategy later perfected by the Germans, he was considered too unreliable for service and a dangerous Nazi sympathiser. Their close pre-war contacts with senior Germans rang all the alarm bells. As did their association with [[Creator/AleisterCrowley ritual occultism]]. German general Heinz Guderian, the man who made the British-originated Blitzkreig concept work in practice, dedicated ''his'' autobiography to ''my close friend, Basil Liddell-Hart''.[[/note]]

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* The treatment the Axis Powers received from the western allies after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. After just seven years of punishing UsefulNotes/WestGermany by keeping the country poor and powerless (as per the 'Morgenthau Plan', which was publicly disavowed but partially enacted), the US extended their general western-European investment drive ('The Marshall Program') to them as well and even released high-ranking ex-Nazi officers from prison (including Erich von Manstein, who had been imprisoned for war crimes against POW and civilians but was released early) so they could found a new German military. The result? A German military that helped redress the BalanceOfPower in Europe against the UsefulNotes/WarsawPact, and more than 60 years of mutual prosperity and relative peace between the former Axis powers and their conquerors. And Japan, following its surrender and the subsequent drafting of its non-aggression constitution, quickly became an ally of the West after [[UsefulNotes/MaoZedong Chairman Mao]] seized power in mainland China, and the outbreak of UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar. Today, Germany, Italy and Japan are three of the biggest economic powerhouses in the world and the centers of two of the world's foremost currencies (euro and yen, respectively). This wasn't out of altruism, but more of out UsefulNotes/ColdWar strategy. The U.S. [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks maintains a number of bases]] in both Europe and Asia to project power into Russia and China. And at a more personal level, a number of friendships sprang up between surviving German fighter pilots and their one-time opponents; most famously, German ace Adolf Galland. The famously comfortable circumstances of Anglo-American POW (who were neither used for slave labour nor exterminated) meant that some former-POW and camp-guards also became friends. At a higher level, former Wehrmacht generals like Erich von Manstein cultivated friendships with people such as Captain Sir Basil Hart (who published Rommel's Diaries in English, a notable best-seller of the early '50s).[[note]]The friendships between senior or influential British and German officers predated UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2. There's a reason why the brilliant but maverick Liddell-Hart was refused more than nominal service in UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}W2 and remained a captain in 1945. Along with Major-General Fuller, the man who originated the Blitzkrieg miltary military strategy later perfected by the Germans, he was considered too unreliable for service and a dangerous Nazi sympathiser. Their close pre-war contacts with senior Germans rang all the alarm bells. As did their association with [[Creator/AleisterCrowley ritual occultism]]. German general Heinz Guderian, the man who made the British-originated Blitzkreig concept work in practice, dedicated ''his'' autobiography to ''my close friend, Basil Liddell-Hart''.[[/note]]
15th Mar '17 8:24:58 AM ShorinBJ
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** Almost every member in the Z team at one point had the sole goal in life to defeat and/or kill Goku (or [[NeverSayDie "send him to another dimension"]]), the only exceptions being Gohan and Goten (which are his sons) and Trunks (Vegeta's son, who had already become a Z-fighter by then). Overall, Piccolo and Vegeta were the most reluctant, but both became allies in the end, even though they were evil at first. In the case of Vegets, the other characters are [[KarmaHoudini all too ready to forgive him]] after he had voluntarily became a minion and killed thousands of {{Innocent Bystander}}s. ''Those'' were revived, but the people he killed on Namek and East City were explicitly left dead, thanks to accidental mis-wishing. Maybe that's why [[spoiler: he went [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty straight to Hell]] after he tried to [[TakingYouWithMe kill Majin Buu with a suicide attack]] and already got the punishment he deserved]].

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** Almost every member in the Z team at one point had the sole goal in life to defeat and/or kill Goku (or [[NeverSayDie "send him to another dimension"]]), the only exceptions being Gohan and Goten (which are his sons) and Trunks (Vegeta's son, who had already become a Z-fighter by then). Overall, Piccolo and Vegeta were the most reluctant, but both became allies in the end, even though they were evil at first. In the case of Vegets, Vegeta, the other characters are [[KarmaHoudini all too ready to forgive him]] after he had voluntarily became a minion and killed thousands of {{Innocent Bystander}}s. ''Those'' were revived, but the people he killed on Namek and East City were explicitly left dead, thanks to accidental mis-wishing. Maybe that's why [[spoiler: he went [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty straight to Hell]] after he tried to [[TakingYouWithMe kill Majin Buu with a suicide attack]] and already got the punishment he deserved]].



** Downplayed with Hiei. After his defeat during Yuusuke's first case as Spirit Detective, [[TokenEvilTeammate he subsequently becomes one of Yuusuke's comrades (and later friends), but is initially only helping him because he was assigned the task for parole]].
** Karasu and Bui in the Dark Tournament are only working with the Toguro Brothers for the chance to get stronger and then turn around and kill them, but until then, they are good teammates. The younger Toguro is not only fully aware of this fact, he welcomes it. The elder Toguro, on the other hand, is simply unkillable and thus has no reason to care.
** Rinku, Jin, Toya, Kuwabara, reluctantly both Shishiwakamaru and Suzuki, Murota, Mitarai, slightly Amanuma, and Sayaka in the pre-resurrection arc, although in the anime she was merely a Spirit-World inspector. Suzuki even went so far as to [[spoiler: provide Kuwabara and Kurama with weapons that they would have been defeated without]], although technically this was to further his own ends. Yomi became friendlier after the Demon Tournament arc, although he was by no means a friend or ally, as well as Mukuro and Raizen's old friends. Ruka [[spoiler: got out of the force-field for hire and switched to doing a radio show with Koto and Juri after nearly being incinerated by Hiei]].

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** Downplayed with Hiei. After his defeat during Yuusuke's Yusuke's first case as Spirit Detective, [[TokenEvilTeammate he subsequently becomes one of Yuusuke's Yusuke's comrades (and later friends), but is initially only helping him because he was assigned the task for parole]].
** Karasu and Bui in the Dark Tournament are only working with the Toguro Brothers for the chance to get stronger and then turn around and kill them, but until then, they are good teammates. The younger Toguro is not only fully aware of this fact, he welcomes it.it because it keeps them motivated. The elder Toguro, on the other hand, is simply unkillable and thus has no reason to care.
** Rinku, Jin, Toya, Kuwabara, reluctantly both Shishiwakamaru and Suzuki, Murota, Mitarai, slightly Amanuma, and Sayaka in the pre-resurrection arc, although in the anime she was merely a Spirit-World inspector. Suzuki even went so far as to [[spoiler: provide [[spoiler:provide Kuwabara and Kurama with weapons that they would have been defeated without]], although technically this was to further his own ends.because, as he put it, he disliked them but he hated Toguro. Yomi became friendlier after the Demon Tournament arc, although he was by no means a friend or ally, as well as Mukuro and Raizen's old friends. Ruka [[spoiler: got [[spoiler:got out of the force-field for hire and switched to doing a radio show with Koto and Juri after nearly being incinerated by Hiei]].
13th Mar '17 6:31:19 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* It is said that Creator/BruceLee and Wrestling/GeneLeBell became friends when they were sparring in the set of a TV series. Gene supposedly threw Lee down and immobilized him, and when Lee asked him to release the hold, Gene refused saying that if he did it, Bruce would get up and kick his ass in revenge. It's debatable how much of a defeat such a funny incident was, but reality is that started to train together after this.

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* It is said that Creator/BruceLee and Wrestling/GeneLeBell became friends when they were sparring in the set of a TV series. Gene supposedly threw Lee down and immobilized him, and when Lee asked him to release the hold, Gene refused saying that if he did it, Bruce would get up and kick his ass in revenge. It's debatable how much of a defeat such a funny incident was, but reality is that they started to train together after this.
11th Mar '17 2:28:31 PM nombretomado
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* In MichaelFlynn's ''Literature/SpiralArm'' novel ''On The Razor's Edge'', [[LetsYouAndHimFight when Gidula pitches Donovan against Eglay Portion]], in an official combat that Donovan suspects may be used to cripple him against the rules, Donovan with some cunning timing defeats him in the first moments. Eglay appraises him, asks him how to do it, and is his man thereafter.

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* In MichaelFlynn's Creator/MichaelFlynn's ''Literature/SpiralArm'' novel ''On The Razor's Edge'', [[LetsYouAndHimFight when Gidula pitches Donovan against Eglay Portion]], in an official combat that Donovan suspects may be used to cripple him against the rules, Donovan with some cunning timing defeats him in the first moments. Eglay appraises him, asks him how to do it, and is his man thereafter.
7th Mar '17 5:05:40 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* In ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'', Erina and Ribbon have to invite magic users to come to Rabi Ribi Town to help with a more worrying problem. The problem is, any time Erina tries to strike up conversation with such an individual, that person usually either [[PoorCommunicationKills attacks Erina over a misunderstanding]] or is BrainwashedAndCrazy by a "bunny phenomenon", with few exceptions and has to be snapped out of it by defeating them. In any case, defeating the target usually gets them to come to town, though two bosses have to be fought multiple times for it to succeed.

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* In ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'', Erina and Ribbon have to invite magic users to come to Rabi Ribi Town to help with a more worrying problem. The problem is, any time Erina tries to strike up conversation with such an individual, that person usually either [[PoorCommunicationKills attacks Erina over a misunderstanding]] or is BrainwashedAndCrazy by a "bunny phenomenon", with few exceptions phenomenon" and has to be snapped out of it by defeating them.them, with few exceptions. In any case, defeating the target usually gets them to come to town, though two bosses have to be fought multiple times for it to succeed.
7th Mar '17 5:03:18 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* In ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'', Erina and Ribbon have to invite magic users to come to Rabi Ribi Town to help with a more worrying problem. The problem is, any time Erina tries to strike up conversation with such an individual, that person usually either [[PoorCommunications attacks Erina over a misunderstanding]] or is BrainwashedAndCrazy by a "bunny phenomenon", with few exceptions and has to be snapped out of it by defeating them. In any case, defeating the target usually gets them to come to town, though two bosses have to be fought multiple times for it to succeed.

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* In ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'', Erina and Ribbon have to invite magic users to come to Rabi Ribi Town to help with a more worrying problem. The problem is, any time Erina tries to strike up conversation with such an individual, that person usually either [[PoorCommunications [[PoorCommunicationKills attacks Erina over a misunderstanding]] or is BrainwashedAndCrazy by a "bunny phenomenon", with few exceptions and has to be snapped out of it by defeating them. In any case, defeating the target usually gets them to come to town, though two bosses have to be fought multiple times for it to succeed.
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