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24th May '16 1:32:00 PM babyhenchy1
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Owing to being mostly inspired by historical fiction, the series is a deconstruction of most of medieval fantasy, and shows what a world is like when a bunch of heavily armed and ambitious assholes with a lifetime of privilege can go about doing whatever they want. A more complete list can be seen [[DeconstructedTrope/ASongOfIceAndFire here]]. Examples include:

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Owing to being mostly inspired by historical fiction, the series is a deconstruction of most of medieval fantasy, and shows what a world is like when a bunch of heavily armed and ambitious assholes with a lifetime of privilege can go about doing whatever they want. A more complete list can be seen [[DeconstructedTrope/ASongOfIceAndFire here]] and [[DeconstructedCharacterArchetype/ASongOfIceAndFire here]]. Examples include:
18th May '16 8:56:52 AM DougDevilsMutt
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** These aforementioned TrueCompanions are placed in an alternate version of Hollywood where animals and humans coexist. Normally, such worlds try to overstep the CarnivoreConfusion resulting from this. Not this one, no sir. In order, we're told that specifically selected animals are bred to be dumbed down to minimal intelligence, fattened and eaten, while the others are raised normally with every single opportunity. To say that people don't see this as a problem and are quite accommodated to such information is an {{Understatement}}, the tropes WhatMeasureIsANonHuman and TwoLegsGoodFourLegsBetter are taken to its logical conclusion by making both humans and [[CategoryTraitor animals]] willing to be personal butchers or distance themselves from the massacre by killing by mass production and through legal means. Without doubt, one of the most realistic and nightmarish explanations of why and how their world (and by extension, ours) can conform to this dissonance in RealLife.

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** These aforementioned TrueCompanions are placed in an alternate version of Hollywood where animals and humans coexist. Normally, such worlds try to overstep the CarnivoreConfusion resulting from this. Not this one, no sir. In order, we're told that specifically selected animals are bred to be dumbed down to minimal intelligence, fattened and eaten, while the others are raised normally with every single opportunity. To say that people don't see this as a problem and are quite accommodated to such information is an {{Understatement}}, the tropes WhatMeasureIsANonHuman and TwoLegsGoodFourLegsBetter FourLegsGoodTwoLegsBetter are taken to its logical conclusion by making both humans and [[CategoryTraitor animals]] willing to be personal butchers or distance themselves from the massacre by killing by mass production and through legal means. Without doubt, one of the most realistic and nightmarish explanations of why and how their world (and by extension, ours) can conform to this dissonance in RealLife.
18th May '16 8:55:36 AM DougDevilsMutt
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** These aforementioned TrueCompanions are placed in an alternate version of Hollywood where animals and humans coexist. Normally, such worlds try to overstep the CarnivoreConfusion resulting from this. Not this one, no sir. In order, we're told that specifically selected animals are bred to be dumbed down to minimal intelligence, fattened and eaten, while the others are raised normally with every single opportunity. To say that people don't see this as a problem and are quite accommodated to such information is an {{Understatement}}, the tropes WhatMeasureIsANonHuman and TwoLegsGoodFourLegsBetter are taken to its logical conclusion by making both humans and [[CategoryTraitor animals]] willing to be personal butchers or distance themselves from the massacre by killing by mass production and through legal means. Without doubt, one of the most realistic and nightmarish explanations of why and how their world (and by extension, ours) can conform to this dissonance in RealLife.
16th May '16 10:59:19 PM Scorpio3002
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** The rest of the plot, of course, is a WholePlotReference to Film/ThreeAmigos, which was itself practically a WholePlotReference to SevenSamurai. The only thing that Amigos did different was to have the "warriors'" reputation precede them, rather than the villagers recruiting whoever they could find; several of the original samurai were very upfront about their lack of combat skill.
16th May '16 7:34:20 PM Eievie
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* ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' - Just because a cosmic entity [[PoweredByAForsakenChild grants children gigantic mecha to pilot]] doesn't mean they'll necessarily use those mechs for the sake of good.

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* ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' - ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'': Just because a cosmic entity [[PoweredByAForsakenChild grants children gigantic mecha to pilot]] doesn't mean they'll necessarily use those mechs for the sake of good.



* ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack'' - Does its best to play with as many [[StockSuperpowers superpower tropes]] as it can, and often deconstructs them. For starters: RequiredSecondaryPowers is either often exploited, or forgotten about, resulting in the deaths of many characters.

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* ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack'' - ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack'': Does its best to play with as many [[StockSuperpowers superpower tropes]] as it can, and often deconstructs them. For starters: RequiredSecondaryPowers is either often exploited, or forgotten about, resulting in the deaths of many characters.



* ''Manga/ExcelSaga'' - Technically it is a satire mocking the Japanese recession, but every little thing, no matter how mundane or boring, is depicted as [[MundaneMadeAwesome totally awesome]]. [[Anime/ExcelSaga The anime]] meanwhile, parodies a different movie or television genre [[OnceAnEpisode each episode]].

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* ''Manga/ExcelSaga'' - ''Manga/ExcelSaga'': Technically it is a satire mocking the Japanese recession, but every little thing, no matter how mundane or boring, is depicted as [[MundaneMadeAwesome totally awesome]]. [[Anime/ExcelSaga The anime]] meanwhile, parodies a different movie or television genre [[OnceAnEpisode each episode]].



* ''Manga/{{Gantz}}'' - The author himself said that he laid out to subvert as many tropes as possible with the series. One might argue the prime example here is FirstPersonShooter, as in ''being'' inside a FirstPersonShooter would be horrible.

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* ''Manga/{{Gantz}}'' - ''Manga/{{Gantz}}'': The author himself said that he laid out to subvert as many tropes as possible with the series. One might argue the prime example here is FirstPersonShooter, as in ''being'' inside a FirstPersonShooter would be horrible.



*** Gon is also designed in tribute to Son Goku in several ways; there is a ''reason'' Gon [[ShoutOut catches a giant fish as his first act]]. [[spoiler:And then of course he recently sacrificed his life to turn into a huge muscle-guy with endless hair in order to destroy Neferpitou for destroying the mentor Gon wasn't strong enough or old enough to save...it was [[TearJerker horrifying as hell]], but a little bit funny, too. Because look, it's grown-up Goku UpToEleven.]]

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*** Gon is also designed in tribute to Son Goku in several ways; there is a ''reason'' Gon [[ShoutOut catches a giant fish as his first act]]. [[spoiler:And then of course he recently sacrificed his life to turn into a huge muscle-guy with endless hair in order to destroy Neferpitou for destroying the mentor Gon wasn't strong enough or old enough to save...save… it was [[TearJerker horrifying as hell]], but a little bit funny, too. Because look, it's grown-up Goku UpToEleven.]]
16th May '16 7:32:39 PM Eievie
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Some stories and series seem to go out of their way to {{deconstruct|ion}} as many genres as possible, or at the very least [[AffectionateParody take them home and cuddle them and call them 'George']]. A Deconstructor Fleet doesn't just use ''one'' topic for parody or {{deconstruction}}. It sinks its meathooks into any trope it can find and folds and spindles it to shreds. When done well, the overall effect is to create something visibly original. Done badly, it may be seen as a generic HateFic, resulting in a small but loyal fanbase loving it and everyone else hating it.

Even people not familiar with TvTropes will notice how this show is different from others. Many such shows become TropeMakers in their own right. Do not confuse this with {{Deconstruction}}, which doesn't invent something new, but criticizes the old. In both cases, however, the ultimate goal of the writers should be to examine a genre or a set of tropes from a new perspective without losing their value as entertainment - not to make the viewer/reader/player feel bad for enjoying straightforward genre fiction. Please remember it's not enough to say that something is a example, it is important to say ''why'' it's an example.

The name is a {{pun}} on the Vogon Constructor Fleet from ''Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy''. Especially appropriate because the Vogon Constructor Fleet doesn't construct ''anything'' - its job is to facilitate hyperspace express routes by [[EarthShatteringKaboom blowing up planets]] that happen to be in the way.

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Some stories and series seem to go out of their way to {{deconstruct|ion}} as many genres as possible, or at the very least [[AffectionateParody take them home and cuddle them and call them 'George']]."George"]]. A Deconstructor Fleet doesn't just use ''one'' topic for parody or {{deconstruction}}. It sinks its meathooks into any trope it can find and folds and spindles it to shreds. When done well, the overall effect is to create something visibly original. Done badly, it may be seen as a generic HateFic, resulting in a small but loyal fanbase loving it and everyone else hating it.

Even people not familiar with TvTropes will notice how this show is different from others. Many such shows become TropeMakers in their own right. Do not confuse this with {{Deconstruction}}, which doesn't invent something new, but criticizes the old. In both cases, however, the ultimate goal of the writers should be to examine a genre or a set of tropes from a new perspective without losing their value as entertainment - not entertainment--not to make the viewer/reader/player feel bad for enjoying straightforward genre fiction. Please remember it's not enough to say that something is a example, it is important to say ''why'' it's an example.

The name is a {{pun}} on the Vogon Constructor Fleet from ''Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy''. Especially appropriate because the Vogon Constructor Fleet doesn't construct ''anything'' - its ''anything''--its job is to facilitate hyperspace express routes by [[EarthShatteringKaboom blowing up planets]] that happen to be in the way.
15th May '16 9:33:15 PM DougDevilsMutt
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* The other main characters are not functional either: Princess Carolyn is a successful agent who dedicates her life to her work and is TheChessmaster and TheFace of the group, this because she has [[{{Workaholic}} no life or relationship outside work]] and is constantly shown to be [[ChristmasCake deeply resentful of that fact]]; Diane is [=BoJack=]'s ghostwriter who often imposes writing a great non-fiction novel above everything, despite that she often uses her novels as form of SurrogateSoliloquy to give her statements [[NormalFishInATinyPond a gravitas and importance she feels she doesn't have otherwise]]; Mr. Peanutbutter is a cheerful Labrador who headlocks into every project headed his way and is enough of a NiceGuy to [[FunPersonified try to cheer up everybody he encounters]], only later is revealed that this is because of a deep rooted fear of death and wasting life as he starts to grasp his own mortality; Todd is basically a slacker living with [=BoJack=] who's revealed to be actually intelligent and resourceful, his fame as a slacker a result from having wasted opportunities given to him, horrible bad luck and a constant dose of hits towards his self-esteem making him convinced that he can't do anything right no matter how hard he tries.

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* ** The other main characters are not functional either: Princess Carolyn is a successful agent who dedicates her life to her work and is TheChessmaster and TheFace of the group, this because she has [[{{Workaholic}} no life or relationship outside work]] and is constantly shown to be [[ChristmasCake deeply resentful of that fact]]; Diane is [=BoJack=]'s ghostwriter who often imposes writing a great non-fiction novel above everything, despite that she often uses her novels as form of SurrogateSoliloquy to give her statements [[NormalFishInATinyPond a gravitas and importance she feels she doesn't have otherwise]]; Mr. Peanutbutter is a cheerful Labrador who headlocks into every project headed his way and is enough of a NiceGuy to [[FunPersonified try to cheer up everybody he encounters]], only later is revealed [[SecretlySelfish revealed]] that this is because of [[AntiNihilist a deep rooted fear of death and wasting life life]] as he starts to grasp his own mortality; Todd is basically a slacker living with [=BoJack=] who's revealed to be [[GeniusDitz actually intelligent and resourceful, resourceful]], his fame as a slacker a result from [[ICouldaBeenAContender having wasted opportunities given to him, him]], [[ButtMonkey horrible bad luck luck]] and a constant dose of hits towards his self-esteem making him [[SelfFulfillingProphecy convinced that he can't do anything right no matter how hard he tries.tries]].
15th May '16 9:30:00 PM DougDevilsMutt
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* The other main characters are not functional either: Princess Carolyn is a successful agent who dedicates her life to her work and is TheChessmaster and TheFace of the group, this because she has [[{{Workaholic}} no life or relationship outside work]] and is constantly shown to be [[ChristmasCake deeply resentful of that fact]]; Diane is [=BoJack=]'s ghostwriter who often imposes writing a great non-fiction novel above everything, despite that she often uses her novels as form of SurrogateSoliloquy to give her statements [[NormalFishInATinyPond a gravitas and importance she feels she doesn't have otherwise]]; Mr. Peanutbutter is a cheerful Labrador who headlocks into every project headed his way and is enough of a NiceGuy to [[FunPersonified try to cheer up everybody he encounters]], only later is revealed that this is because of a deep rooted fear of death and wasting life as he starts to grasp his own mortality; Todd is basically a slacker living with [=BoJack=] who's revealed to be actually intelligent and resourceful, his fame as a slacker a result from having wasted opportunities given to him, horrible bad luck and a constant dose of hits towards his self-esteem making him convinced that he can't do anything right no matter how hard he tries.
15th May '16 9:11:23 PM DougDevilsMutt
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** The main character, [=BoJack=] Horseman, isn't an easily likable person. He's [[{{Narcissist}} narcissistic]], self-loathing, a perpetual alcoholic, treats his supposed friends like shit yet still keeps them out of a sense of loneliness and is quite a depressive influence around everybody. Normally, the series would give us a sense of how in spite of that, he can a be good person underneath; while it ''does'' show that, it becomes clearer that the good and bad parts of [=BoJack=] are not different, but may actually come from the same attributes; there's no easy goodness, just a screwed-up complex character who increasingly starts to reveal some dark explanations about why he has become this way and how that ''still'' won't excuse him from screwing his, and others', life up.

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** The main character, [=BoJack=] Horseman, isn't an easily likable person. He's [[{{Narcissist}} narcissistic]], self-loathing, [[BigEgoHiddenDepths self-loathing]], a perpetual alcoholic, [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic]], [[WithFriendsLikeThese treats his supposed friends like shit shit]] yet [[PleaseDontLeaveMe still keeps them out of a sense of loneliness loneliness]] and [[TheCynic is quite a depressive depressive]] [[TheCorrupter influence around everybody. everybody]]. Normally, the series would give us a sense of how in spite of that, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold he can a be good person underneath; underneath]]; while it ''does'' show that, it becomes clearer that the good and bad parts of [=BoJack=] are not different, but may actually come from the same attributes; there's no easy goodness, just a screwed-up [[BrokenBird screwed-up]] [[DynamicCharacter complex character character]] who increasingly starts [[DefrostingIceQueen increasingly]] [[LyingToProtectYourFeelings starts]] to reveal some dark explanations [[AbusiveParents some]] [[MyGreatestFailure dark]] [[TheOneThatGotAway explanations]] [[EtTuBrute about why why]] [[SafetyInIndifference he has become has]] [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll become]] [[UsedToBeASweetKid this way way]] and how that [[TheAtoner that]] ''still'' [[WhatTheHellHero won't excuse him excuse]] [[HeelFaceDoorSlam him]] [[RejectedApology from screwing screwing]] [[TragicHero his, and others', life up.up]].
15th May '16 9:00:39 PM DougDevilsMutt
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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' doesn't just take all of the {{Sitcom}} tropes, including the ones involving StatusQuoIsGod almost all of recent animated series love to run with, it goes completely overboard and crushes every single conception popularized by the media, essentially pointing out how RealLife is ''not'' like fiction makes it out to be.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' doesn't just take all of the {{Sitcom}} tropes, including the ones involving StatusQuoIsGod almost all of recent animated series love to run with, it goes completely overboard and crushes every single conception popularized by the media, essentially pointing out how RealLife is ''not'' like fiction makes it out to be. Often overlapping with DeconstructiveParody, one of its main propositions is what every single staple of a TV show would be if they were a little willing to dig a little deeper:
** The main character, [=BoJack=] Horseman, isn't an easily likable person. He's [[{{Narcissist}} narcissistic]], self-loathing, a perpetual alcoholic, treats his supposed friends like shit yet still keeps them out of a sense of loneliness and is quite a depressive influence around everybody. Normally, the series would give us a sense of how in spite of that, he can a be good person underneath; while it ''does'' show that, it becomes clearer that the good and bad parts of [=BoJack=] are not different, but may actually come from the same attributes; there's no easy goodness, just a screwed-up complex character who increasingly starts to reveal some dark explanations about why he has become this way and how that ''still'' won't excuse him from screwing his, and others', life up.
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