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7th Feb '18 9:41:05 PM Loekman3
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* ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' is a crossover between StarVsTheForcesOfEvil and MiraculousLadybug. While also something of a FixFic, it's also a deconstruction of both franchises in different ways. It's overarching view is a MonsterOfTheWeek plot of Ladybug, but contextualizes it using Star's more arc based plotting. Compared to the akumas Marinette and Adrian fight regularly, Ludo and his monsters lack gimmicks and just use straight forward brutality tactics to overwhelm foes who aren't Star and Marco. It shows that even if [[spoiler: Jackie and Marco had broken up in a different context]] that wouldn't mean Star and Marco would automatically get together. It laughs at Hawkmoth's egotism and how that's a direct contradiction to his supposedly noble intentions. And of course it's big deconstruction is on [[spoiler: what would happen the day Ladybug and Cat Noir lost?]] Answer? Feelings of betrayal, secrets revealed, and the end of them being [[spoiler: secret heroes.]]

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* ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' is a crossover between StarVsTheForcesOfEvil ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' and MiraculousLadybug. While also something of a FixFic, it's also a deconstruction of both franchises in different ways. It's overarching view is a MonsterOfTheWeek plot of Ladybug, but contextualizes it using Star's more arc based plotting. Compared to the akumas Marinette and Adrian fight regularly, Ludo and his monsters lack gimmicks and just use straight forward brutality tactics to overwhelm foes who aren't Star and Marco. It shows that even if [[spoiler: Jackie and Marco had broken up in a different context]] that wouldn't mean Star and Marco would automatically get together. It laughs at Hawkmoth's egotism and how that's a direct contradiction to his supposedly noble intentions. And of course it's big deconstruction is on [[spoiler: what would happen the day Ladybug and Cat Noir lost?]] Answer? Feelings of betrayal, secrets revealed, and the end of them being [[spoiler: secret heroes.]]
24th Nov '17 10:34:49 AM nombretomado
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Basically, when you throw many characters belonging to a specific genre (or sometimes a distinct division of this genre -- e.g., the works of a certain author) into a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, for the purpose of exploring and [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] -- and sometimes [[{{Reconstruction}} reconstructing]] -- said genre from a modern viewpoint (which may or may not be DarkerAndEdgier). It could use the actual characters and settings from said works, [[DoppelgangerCrossover or it could limit itself to using]] [[{{Expy}} Expies]] if said work isn't quite in the public domain (less common online, because [[FairUse copyrights matter somewhat less when no money changes hands]]).

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Basically, when you throw many characters belonging to a specific genre (or sometimes a distinct division of this genre -- e.g., the works of a certain author) into a MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, for the purpose of exploring and [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructing]] -- and sometimes [[{{Reconstruction}} reconstructing]] -- said genre from a modern viewpoint (which may or may not be DarkerAndEdgier). It could use the actual characters and settings from said works, [[DoppelgangerCrossover or it could limit itself to using]] [[{{Expy}} Expies]] if said work isn't quite in the public domain (less common online, because [[FairUse [[UsefulNotes/FairUse copyrights matter somewhat less when no money changes hands]]).
20th Nov '17 2:09:03 AM Cryoclaste
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** It has its own in universe versions of games like ''SuperMarioBros'', ''VideoGame/EarthBound'', ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'', and even ''Deadly Towers'' and cheesy flash games. It really does well at showing what a character from one genre of games would look like if he was forced into a completely different genre but his character still followed the rules of his original game. For example, how would a platformer character for whom everything does equal damage, and only has four slots in his health bar deal with being put in an RPG where every character has thousands of HP? How would a fighting game character, who needs to take advantage of a character being temporarily stunned after being hit in order to perform combos deal with a platformer character who becomes temporarily invincible after being hit?
* ''Webcomic/CaptainSNES'' fits into this category fairly well. Not only are many of the villains aware that they are merely video game characters (which is, in at least one case, [[GoMadFromTheRevelation why they became villains to begin with]]), but characters who travel from one video game world to another are not always prepared for the different rules. (The [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2002/10/26/219-the-ways-of-the-mushroom/ comic]] where [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Magus]] writes of his experiences learning from [[SuperMarioBrothers Mario]] seems a good illustration of this.)

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** It has its own in universe versions of games like ''SuperMarioBros'', ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', ''VideoGame/EarthBound'', ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'', and even ''Deadly Towers'' and cheesy flash games. It really does well at showing what a character from one genre of games would look like if he was forced into a completely different genre but his character still followed the rules of his original game. For example, how would a platformer character for whom everything does equal damage, and only has four slots in his health bar deal with being put in an RPG where every character has thousands of HP? How would a fighting game character, who needs to take advantage of a character being temporarily stunned after being hit in order to perform combos deal with a platformer character who becomes temporarily invincible after being hit?
* ''Webcomic/CaptainSNES'' fits into this category fairly well. Not only are many of the villains aware that they are merely video game characters (which is, in at least one case, [[GoMadFromTheRevelation why they became villains to begin with]]), but characters who travel from one video game world to another are not always prepared for the different rules. (The [[http://www.captainsnes.com/2002/10/26/219-the-ways-of-the-mushroom/ comic]] where [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Magus]] writes of his experiences learning from [[SuperMarioBrothers [[Franchise/SuperMarioBrothers Mario]] seems a good illustration of this.)
17th Nov '17 7:31:19 PM CaptainColdCutCliche
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* ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' does this for VideoGames by having a PunchClockVillain from a 1980s-era game [[DudeWheresMyRespect get sick of being treated like dirt by the other characters from his game]], and decide to sneak into a FirstPersonShooter to earn a medal. HilarityEnsues, and this being a Disney film, ends up triggering an even bigger adventure for himself and others.

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* ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' does this for VideoGames by having a taking them at face value: as characters who do the same things every day, controlled by players. Among cameos from decades worth of games, an OriginalGeneration PunchClockVillain from a 1980s-era game [[DudeWheresMyRespect get sick of being treated like dirt by the other characters from his game]], and decide to sneak into a FirstPersonShooter to earn a medal. HilarityEnsues, and this being a Disney film, ends up triggering an even bigger adventure for himself and others.
17th Nov '17 7:42:32 AM CaptainColdCutCliche
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* Much like LoEG for comics (see above), ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' is probably the TropeMaker on the film side of things. It did this with {{Toon}}s, UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, and WesternAnimation in general:

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* Much like LoEG [=LoEG=] for comics (see above), ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' is probably the TropeMaker on the film side of things. It did this with {{Toon}}s, UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, and WesternAnimation in general:
17th Nov '17 7:40:18 AM CaptainColdCutCliche
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** First it brought together characters from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/BettyBoop, WesternAnimation/DroopyDog, WesternAnimation/WoodyWoodpecker, WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat, and more. Then:

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** First it brought together characters from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/BettyBoop, WesternAnimation/DroopyDog, WesternAnimation/WoodyWoodpecker, WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat, and more. Then:
17th Nov '17 7:39:11 AM CaptainColdCutCliche
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* ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' did this with {{Toon}}s, expanding the idea of AnimatedActors popularized by WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, showing how insane, harrowing, and dangerous a {{Toontown}} would be, and how RuleOfFunny affects the lives of Toons in realistic situations.
** The original novel, ''Literature/WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'' was even DarkerAndEdgier and did it with newspaper comic strip characters instead.

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* Much like LoEG for comics (see above), ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' is probably the TropeMaker on the film side of things. It did this with {{Toon}}s, expanding UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, and WesternAnimation in general:
** First it brought together characters from the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/BettyBoop, WesternAnimation/DroopyDog, WesternAnimation/WoodyWoodpecker, WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat, and more. Then:
** It expanded
the idea of AnimatedActors popularized by WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, showing how insane, harrowing, and dangerous a {{Toontown}} would be, and how RuleOfFunny affects the lives of Toons in realistic situations.WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes.
** It showed how insane, harrowing, and dangerous a {{Toontown}} would be.
** How RuleOfFunny affects and hinders the lives of Toons in realistic situations.
** What happens when cartoon slapstick and ToonPhysics is applied to real people (Eddie's brother was killed by a PianoDrop).
** It even deconstructed the trope it named, the RogerRabbitEffect, by showing how Toons living alongside humans are victims of prejudice, like real-world minorities.
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The original novel, ''Literature/WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'' was even DarkerAndEdgier and did it with newspaper comic strip characters instead.
17th Nov '17 7:15:06 AM CaptainColdCutCliche
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17th Nov '17 7:12:29 AM CaptainColdCutCliche
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* ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' did this with {{Toon}}s. The original novel, ''Literature/WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'' was even DarkerAndEdgier and did it with newspaper comic strip characters instead.

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* ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' did this with {{Toon}}s. The {{Toon}}s, expanding the idea of AnimatedActors popularized by WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes, showing how insane, harrowing, and dangerous a {{Toontown}} would be, and how RuleOfFunny affects the lives of Toons in realistic situations.
**The
original novel, ''Literature/WhoCensoredRogerRabbit'' was even DarkerAndEdgier and did it with newspaper comic strip characters instead.
7th Oct '17 4:27:59 PM N8han11
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* ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugvsTheForcesOfEvil'' is a crossover between StarVsTheForcesOfEvil and MiraculousLadybug. While also something of a FixFic, it's also a deconstruction of both franchises in different ways. It's overarching view is a MonsterOfTheWeek plot of Ladybug, but contextualizes it using Star's more arc based plotting. Compared to the akumas Marinette and Adrian fight regularly, Ludo and his monsters lack gimmicks and just use straight forward brutality tactics to overwhelm foes who aren't Star and Marco. It shows that even if [[spoiler: Jackie and Marco had broken up in a different context]] that wouldn't mean Star and Marco would automatically get together. It laughs at Hawkmoth's egotism and how that's a direct contradiction to his supposedly noble intentions. And of course it's big deconstruction is on [[spoiler: what would happen the day Ladybug and Cat Noir lost?]] Answer? Feelings of betrayal, secrets revealed, and the end of them being [[spoiler: secret heroes.]]

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* ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugvsTheForcesOfEvil'' ''Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugVsTheForcesOfEvil'' is a crossover between StarVsTheForcesOfEvil and MiraculousLadybug. While also something of a FixFic, it's also a deconstruction of both franchises in different ways. It's overarching view is a MonsterOfTheWeek plot of Ladybug, but contextualizes it using Star's more arc based plotting. Compared to the akumas Marinette and Adrian fight regularly, Ludo and his monsters lack gimmicks and just use straight forward brutality tactics to overwhelm foes who aren't Star and Marco. It shows that even if [[spoiler: Jackie and Marco had broken up in a different context]] that wouldn't mean Star and Marco would automatically get together. It laughs at Hawkmoth's egotism and how that's a direct contradiction to his supposedly noble intentions. And of course it's big deconstruction is on [[spoiler: what would happen the day Ladybug and Cat Noir lost?]] Answer? Feelings of betrayal, secrets revealed, and the end of them being [[spoiler: secret heroes.]]



* ''Winnie The Pooh meets The Toxic Avenger'' is a deconstruction of the ''WebOriginal/PoohsAdventures'' series, showcasing the difficulties of featuring so many characters in a world not suited for them.

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* ''Winnie The Pooh meets The Toxic Avenger'' is a deconstruction of the ''WebOriginal/PoohsAdventures'' ''WebVideo/PoohsAdventures'' series, showcasing the difficulties of featuring so many characters in a world not suited for them.
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