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19th Aug '17 8:36:33 PM LadyNorbert
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*** The Legion of the Dead, itself, is for the most part composed of people who, for whatever reason, are considered to have lives that are dishonorable to continue with. (The one exception known is a noble who, while not disgraced, was considered a trouble-maker, and joined for no known reason.) The Legionnaires are inducted into the Legion in an expensive funeral, they have gear specifically designed to poetically reflect that they are expected to die gloriously in battle (examples include boots that do not leave tracks that hint at direction, and shields designed to give hard to make out reflections of the wielder,) and all of them actively seek to die.

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*** The Legion of the Dead, itself, is for the most part composed of people who, for whatever reason, are considered to have lives that are dishonorable to continue with. (The one exception only exceptions known is are a noble who, while not disgraced, was considered a trouble-maker, and joined for no known reason.reason, and a perfectly respectable cobbler who agreed to join in order to void his family's debts after his father died.) The Legionnaires are inducted into the Legion in an expensive funeral, they have gear specifically designed to poetically reflect that they are expected to die gloriously in battle (examples include boots that do not leave tracks that hint at direction, and shields designed to give hard to make out reflections of the wielder,) and all of them actively seek to die.



*** The [[PlayerCharacter Warden]] of [[MultipleGameOpenings Human or Dwarf Noble origin]], can be played this way, particularly if they make the ultimate sacrifice in the end.
*** When the Warden first offers to release him from his prison in Lothering, Sten says that [[RedemptionEqualsDeath death will be his atonement]] for the murder of an entire farmhold of people. He later agrees to join the Warden after the latter convinces him of the importance of his/her mission. However, Sten doesn't actually believe the Warden will succeed in defeating the Blight; he just prefers to die in battle than starve to death in a cage. This changes after you get his approval high enough and [[spoiler:return his sword]]. He starts to believe that you have a real shot at defeating the Blight, and he mentions that he would be able to offer a better answer to his superiors' questions about the Blight if he helped you end it first.
*** [[DarkSkinnedBlond Zevran Aranai]] of attacks the PC (despite his extensive training as an assassin and impressive stealth skills) because he hopes to get himself killed.
*** Riordan, the Orlesian Grey Warden you meet late in the game, is also a Death Seeker, in large part because he is a forty-something Grey Warden who is close to his [[TheLastDance Calling]]. [[spoiler: He attempts to kill the Archdemon and sacrifice his life in the process, but ends up being too much of a daredevil to finish the task, though he does wound it badly while attempting a BladeBrake as he's falling to his death.]]

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*** The [[PlayerCharacter Warden]] of the [[MultipleGameOpenings Human or Dwarf Noble origin]], can be played this way, particularly if they make the ultimate sacrifice in the end.
*** When the Warden first offers to release him from his prison in Lothering, Sten says that [[RedemptionEqualsDeath death will be his atonement]] for the murder of an entire farmhold of people.innocent family. He later agrees to join the Warden after the latter convinces him of the importance of his/her mission. However, Sten doesn't actually believe the Warden will succeed in defeating the Blight; he just prefers to die in battle than starve to death in a cage. This changes after you get his approval high enough and [[spoiler:return his sword]]. He starts to believe that you have a real shot at defeating the Blight, and he mentions that he would be able to offer a better answer to his superiors' questions about the Blight if he helped you end it first.
*** [[DarkSkinnedBlond Zevran Aranai]] of attacks the PC (despite his extensive training as an assassin and impressive stealth skills) because he hopes to get himself killed.
*** Riordan, the Orlesian Grey Warden you meet late in the game, is also a Death Seeker, in large part because he is a forty-something Grey Warden who is close to his [[TheLastDance Calling]]. [[spoiler: He attempts to kill the Archdemon and sacrifice his life in the process, but ends up being too much of a daredevil to finish the task, though task. However, he does wound it badly while attempting a BladeBrake as he's falling to his death.death, and in so doing makes it possible for ''you'' to kill the beast instead.]]



*** Sigrun is a lot more cheerful about it than Zevran or Sten, but still makes it quite clear that as a member of the aforementioned Legion of the Dead she owes a HeroicSacrifice and that she'll be leaving for her [[TheLastDance Calling]] as soon as the current crisis is over. If she survives to the ending her epilogue either has her follow through on that, or mentions that either the Warden becomes really good at finding new crises to persuade her to stick around just a little longer or she tries to leave but always ends up coming back to the Warden since she's one of his/her TrueCompanions.

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*** Sigrun is a lot more cheerful about it than Zevran or Sten, but still makes it quite clear that as a member of the aforementioned Legion of the Dead she owes a HeroicSacrifice and that she'll be leaving for her [[TheLastDance Calling]] as soon as the current crisis is over. If she survives to the ending ending, her epilogue either has her follow through on that, or mentions that either the Warden becomes really good at finding new crises to persuade her to stick around just a little longer longer, or she tries to leave but always ends up coming back to the Warden since she's one of his/her TrueCompanions.



** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', if Anders is convinced to join [[spoiler:Templars in carrying out the Right Of Annulment]], it's implied he will commit suicide after the FinalBattle. At this point he sees himself as a monster, responsible for death of many innocents and knows he will never be free from [[DemonicPossession Vengeance]]. No matter which ending you choose, he clearly welcomes death. This is also brought up in a banter with Isabela earlier in Act III where he replies to her question about what would happen if he got a lot of people killed - he answers that he would want to die, because they would deserve justice. [[CycleOfRevenge Isabela then asks where it would end.]] Of course, [[spoiler:if he helps out with the Mages]], it's clear that he wishes to be a martyr for his cause.

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** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', if Anders is convinced to join [[spoiler:Templars in carrying out the Right Of Annulment]], it's implied he will commit suicide after the FinalBattle. At this point he sees himself as a monster, responsible for death of many innocents and knows he will never be free from [[DemonicPossession Vengeance]]. No matter which ending you choose, he clearly welcomes death. This is also brought up in a banter with Isabela earlier in Act III 3 where he replies to her question about what would happen if he got a lot of people killed - he answers that he would want to die, because they would deserve justice. [[CycleOfRevenge Isabela then asks where it would end.]] Of course, [[spoiler:if he helps out with the Mages]], it's clear that he wishes to be a martyr for his cause.



--->'''[[spoiler:Kenny]]:''' You know what it feels like to get beaten, almost to death? Peaceful. It feels peaceful. It was like I was floating away, watching the whole thing happen to me. And then I woke up again, and nothin's changed. I'm still takin' a beating, every day. [[spoiler:Duck. Katjaa. Sarita]]. No peace. No rest. The punches just keep coming. Why the hell didn't Carver just finish me off? Obviously I ain't helping anyone by being here.

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--->'''[[spoiler:Kenny]]:''' You know what it feels like to get beaten, almost to death? Peaceful. It feels peaceful. It was like I was floating away, watching the whole thing happen to me. And then I woke up again, and nothin's changed. I'm still takin' a beating, every day. [[spoiler:Duck. Katjaa. Sarita]]. Sarita.]] No peace. No rest. The punches just keep coming. Why the hell didn't Carver just finish me off? Obviously I ain't helping anyone by being here.



* ''VideoGame/MaxPayne'' is another embodiment of this Trope. After his wife and kid were killed several years ago, he no longer cares that much about living but just doesn't have the stones to eat his own gun barrel, so he spends his nights shoving a hail of bullets as far down the throat of the criminal underworld as any human being can be expected to manage with that amount of alcohol and painkillers coursing through his system. In the third instalment of the series, it gets to the stage where he seems downright disappointed when he survives several high impact falls onto concrete, landing on his back, any of which would have killed or paralysed a lesser man, proving once again that it's NotTheFallThatKillsYou.

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* ''VideoGame/MaxPayne'' is another embodiment of this Trope. After his wife and kid were killed several years ago, he no longer cares that much about living but just doesn't have the stones to eat his own gun barrel, so he spends his nights shoving a hail of bullets as far down the throat of the criminal underworld as any human being can be expected to manage with that amount of alcohol and painkillers coursing through his system. In the third instalment installment of the series, it gets to the stage where he seems downright disappointed when he survives several high impact falls onto concrete, landing on his back, any of which would have killed or paralysed a lesser man, proving once again that it's NotTheFallThatKillsYou.



** A rare dark humor-based example of this trope (crashing right into SuicideAsComedy) is Face Mcshooty. He is a Psycho in Thousand Cuts who runs around screaming at people and begging to be shot in the face, doing nothing else in terms of aggression or even provocation. His only calling in life is to get a bullet in the face. There's no given reason why he doesn't simply acquire any of the numerous discarded VendorTrash guns laying around and do it himself, but he simply asks that one of the Vault Hunters give him what he wants. He actually thanks you after you shoot him in the face, and somehow gives you money before he perishes. Definitely one of the game's weirder side quests.

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** A rare dark humor-based example of this trope (crashing right into SuicideAsComedy) is Face Mcshooty.[=McShooty=]. He is a Psycho in Thousand Cuts who runs around screaming at people and begging to be shot in the face, doing nothing else in terms of aggression or even provocation. His only calling in life is to get a bullet in the face. There's no given reason why he doesn't simply acquire any of the numerous discarded VendorTrash guns laying around and do it himself, but he simply asks that one of the Vault Hunters give him what he wants. He actually thanks you after you shoot him in the face, and somehow gives you money before he perishes. Definitely one of the game's weirder side quests.


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* [[spoiler:The titular ''Exiled Prince'']] in the ''VideoGame/DarkParables'' is eventually revealed to be this. He's immortal and has grown weary of the world, and wants nothing more than to die, so he's researched a potion that will allow him to do just that. Unfortunately, he's also struck with a case of ICannotSelfTerminate, which means you have to do it for him.
19th Aug '17 11:03:03 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** In ''Path of Radiance'' both Haar and Tauroneo, thoroughly disappointed by the turns their lives have taken, are like this before you recruit them. And then there's [[TheBrute General Bertram]], one of Daien's Four Riders. Drugged up on PsychoSerum and barely coherent, Bertram spends most of [[SnakeTalk rasping]] about how the other players are going going to "Perisssshhh," and "Me...kill..." Right up until you face him with Ike, that is, when his refrain becomes "Kill...me....KILL...M-ME..." Ike does his best to oblige.

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** In ''Path of Radiance'' both Haar and Tauroneo, thoroughly disappointed by the turns their lives have taken, are like this before you the cast recruit them. And then there's [[TheBrute General Bertram]], one of Daien's Four Riders. Drugged up on PsychoSerum and barely coherent, Bertram spends most of [[SnakeTalk rasping]] about how the other players are going going to "Perisssshhh," and "Me...kill..." Right up until you face him with Ike, Ike faces him, that is, when his refrain becomes "Kill...me....KILL...M-ME..." Ike does his best to oblige. [[spoiler: Bertram (or better said, Elincia's BrainwashedAndCrazy uncle Renning) not only survives but his disciple Bastian locks him away while searching for a cure; aftert the death of the PsychoSerum's creator, the Herons's Galdr of Rebirth reverts Bertram to his original self.]]



** Henry from ''Awakening'' also counts, although in his case it seems to be less out of despair and [[NightmareFetishist more out of curiosity about what dying would feel like]]. He makes several comments about wanting to die in a very bloody, yet painless manner, and his death quote has him call it beautiful. [[spoiler: His solo ending also strongly implies that he eventually killed himself]].
** Xander becomes this in ''Birthright'' [[spoiler: after accidentally killing Elise when he tries to kill the Avatar and she goes TakingTheBullet. He gets so emotionally destroyed by the accidental murder of his little sister that he has the Avatar kill him in his duel with them via SuicideByCop]]. Even more, it's implied that [[spoiler: he has ''already'' planned to fight the Avatar and his/her army to the death, and Elise's death only strengthened this decision]].

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** Henry from ''Awakening'' also counts, although in his case it seems to be less out of despair and [[NightmareFetishist more out of curiosity about what dying would feel like]]. He makes several comments about wanting to die in a very bloody, yet painless manner, and his death quote has him call it beautiful. [[spoiler: His solo ending also strongly implies that he eventually ''might'' have killed himself]].
** Xander becomes this in ''Birthright'' [[spoiler: after accidentally killing Elise when he tries to kill the Avatar and she goes TakingTheBullet. He gets so emotionally destroyed by the accidental murder of his little sister that he has the Avatar kill him in his duel with them via SuicideByCop]]. Even more, it's implied by a talk with his retainers that [[spoiler: he has ''already'' planned to fight the Avatar and his/her army to the death, and Elise's death only strengthened this decision]].
31st Jul '17 10:41:53 PM TheNerevarine
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Implied with Jon in "The Watchers on the Wall." After Ygritte dies, Jon decides to go on a suicide mission to assassinate Mance Rayder. However, even though he still grieves over Ygritte's death, he manages to shake out of his suicidal tendencies soon afterwards. Also implied somewhat after his actual death and resurrection in Season 6. He seems rather peeved at not being allowed to be at rest, and some of his actions toward the end hint at a lack of will to live. Nonetheless, he goes to war against the Boltons for the sake of his little brother and sister. He ''seems'' to have gotten a second wind as of the final battle with the Boltons, but to what end, no one's sure.

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Implied with Jon in "The Watchers on the Wall." After Ygritte dies, Jon decides to go on a suicide mission to assassinate Mance Rayder. However, even though he still grieves over Ygritte's death, he manages to shake out of his suicidal tendencies soon afterwards. Also implied somewhat after his actual death and resurrection in Season 6. He seems rather peeved at not being allowed to be at rest, and some of his actions toward the end hint at a lack of will to live. Nonetheless, he goes to war against the Boltons for the sake of his little brother and sister. He ''seems'' to have gotten a second wind as of the final battle with the Boltons, but to what end, no one's sure.sure.
** Olenna Tyrell following the [[OutlivingOnesOffspring death of her son and grandchildren]] by Cersei's hands in Season 6. She no longer has any reason for living except for exacting revenge on Cersei for taking her family away from her, which is why she throws her lot with Daenerys Targaryen. [[spoiler:When the Lannisters forces surround her castle and take it, she simply gives up and takes a [[DrivenToSuicide poison handed by Jaime Lannister]] without taking a beat, since she is just done of living]].
25th Jul '17 8:19:55 AM JoeMerl
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* In ''{{WesternAnimation/Up}},'' there's a kind of variation--WordOfGod said Carl's motivation was originally supposed to be using the balloons so he could basically be with Ellie "in heaven." Of course, you couldn't actually have him kill himself and there wasn't much of a story you could get of him just floating around in the sky being sad, so the plot gradually changed to him trying to reach Paradise Falls while finding new meaning for his life.

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* In ''{{WesternAnimation/Up}},'' there's a kind of variation--WordOfGod said Carl's motivation was originally supposed to be using the balloons so he could basically be with Ellie "in heaven." Of course, you couldn't actually have him kill himself and there wasn't much of a story you could get of him just floating around in the sky being sad, so the plot gradually changed to him trying to reach Paradise Falls (where he and Ellie always dreamed of visiting) while finding new meaning for his life.
25th Jul '17 1:28:13 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ComicBook/{{Deadshot}}, an assassin in Franchise/TheDCU. His death wish stems from an incident in his childhood; his wealthy parents hated each other, and mom tried to hire her sons to kill their father. The younger brother, Floyd, tried to prevent his older brother from doing so, but his brother kicked him out of the house. Floyd got his hands on a gun and stood on a tree branch, hoping to [[BlastingItOutOfTheirHands simply wound his brother]], but the branch snapped and he missed. So he killed the brother he loved to save a father he hated. Eventually, Floyd became an assassin for hire, assuming the Deadshot identity. After multiple stints on the aptly named SuicideSquad and a few fights against other badass assassins, he's still alive.

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* ComicBook/{{Deadshot}}, an assassin in Franchise/TheDCU. His death wish stems from an incident in his childhood; his wealthy parents hated each other, and mom tried to hire her sons to kill their father. The younger brother, Floyd, tried to prevent his older brother from doing so, but his brother kicked him out of the house. Floyd got his hands on a gun and stood on a tree branch, hoping to [[BlastingItOutOfTheirHands simply wound his brother]], but the branch snapped and he missed. So he killed the brother he loved to save a father he hated. Eventually, Floyd became an assassin for hire, assuming the Deadshot identity. After multiple stints on the aptly named SuicideSquad Comicbook/SuicideSquad and a few fights against other badass assassins, he's still alive.
24th Jul '17 9:42:15 AM Silverblade2
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* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is sometimes implied to be one, his monstrous acts being attempts to court death. Over time it's evolved a bit; he still wants to die, but he now wants Batman specifically to be the one who does it. ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' explores this in more detail. When he first arrives in Gotham, he's obviously expecting/hoping to get killed by the numerous people he's provoked. His obsession with Batman comes about when Batman refuses to kill him and even saves him despite the horrible crimes he committed; Joker is so [[EvilCannotComprehendGood confused]] that he becomes enamored with Batman, viewing him as his perfect opposite.

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* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is sometimes implied to be one, his monstrous acts being attempts to court death. Over time it's evolved a bit; he still wants to die, but he now wants Batman specifically to be the one who does it. ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' explores this in more detail. When he first arrives in Gotham, he's obviously expecting/hoping to get killed by the numerous people he's provoked. His obsession with Batman comes about when Batman refuses to kill him and even saves him despite the horrible crimes he committed; Joker is so [[EvilCannotComprehendGood confused]] that he becomes enamored with Batman, viewing him as his perfect opposite.
23rd Jul '17 2:52:19 PM SeveralCakes
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** [[spoiler: There is a lot of evidence in [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion the Rebellion Movie]] that [[DarkActionGirl Homura]] is an example, due to the dozens of time loops she's gone through trying to keep Madoka from contracting and losing her at the final loop of the old Universe. By the time of the movie [[OneWingedAngel her Witch form]] begs for death, and when she takes over the Universe, her helpers the Clara Dolls (who represent Homura's feelings) can be seen throwing themselves off a ledge. Homura [[GoOutWithASmile follows them]] in TheStinger]]
9th Jul '17 5:36:29 PM MajinAkuma
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** The fifth espada, Nnoitra, constantly fights against strong opponents so that he can experience that rush someone gets in the final moments just before dying. His great hope is that he can die on the battlefield, after a glorious fight in which someone has earned the strength and power required to kill him.

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** The fifth espada, Quinto Espada, Nnoitra, constantly fights against strong opponents so that he can experience that rush someone gets in the final moments just before dying. His great hope is that he can die on the battlefield, after a glorious fight in which someone has earned the strength and power required to kill him.


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* ''Anime/SuitePrettyCure'': Being [[spoiler:the embodiment of sadness, Noise]] wants to accomplish his true goal of disappearing from the world by creating a WorldOfSilence where no emotions exist.
4th Jul '17 2:39:45 PM littlebeeper
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* ''Series/{{CSI}}'' has one episode where the [[[AntiVillain "baddie"]] of the week is simply a deeply disturbed and depressed man in a RedShirt who loses his girlfriend (in a way that genuinely isn't his fault) and goes around starting trouble so someone would kill him and let him be "reunited" with her. Thing is, even in a gunfight with multiple people all shooting at him, [[EpicFail they all fail to hit him]]. In the end, he gets cornered on a rooftop and simply tries to commit suicide by jumping off, but there's a safety net underneath him.

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* ''Series/{{CSI}}'' has one episode where the [[[AntiVillain [[AntiVillain "baddie"]] of the week is simply a deeply disturbed and depressed man in a RedShirt who loses his girlfriend (in a way that genuinely isn't his fault) and goes around starting trouble so someone would kill him and let him be "reunited" with her. Thing is, even in a gunfight with multiple people all shooting at him, [[EpicFail they all fail to hit him]]. In the end, he gets cornered on a rooftop and simply tries to commit suicide by jumping off, but there's a safety net underneath him.
29th Jun '17 4:28:22 AM Derkhan
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* In ''Literature/TheSorcererOfTheWildeeps'', Captain, haunted by his DarkAndTroubledPast, is implied to deliberately be putting himself in harm's way. During a training exercise with Demane, he deliberately fails to dodge a spear strike that would have been lethal if Demane's reflexes hadn't been good enough to miss at the last moment. [[spoiler:During the fight with the second jukiere, he deliberately stops fighting and allows his own death to be the distraction that gives Demane an opening to attack it]].
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