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18th Oct '17 1:04:39 PM gjjones
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Arguments about the company's editing practices came came to a head with ''Manga/OnePiece'', which remains the unfortunate darkest mark on their reputation. This dub took the company's (in)famous practices, such as [[{{Bowdlerise}} excessive censorship]], replacing ''all'' the music (capped off with a ThemeTuneRap), skipping over several important episodes, [[CutAndPasteTranslation remixing elements]] of episodes, drastic changes to the plots, [[CulturalTranslation Americanization]], and low quality voice acting, and cranked them UpToEleven, all the while showcasing none of their redeeming qualities. All of this directed ire on the entire company by some people. While [=4Kids=] wanted nothing to do with the show since they were aware of how un-family friendly it was, Toei forced them to dub it anyway as they would only license other shows to [=4Kids=] as part of a packaged deal. Because of this, that adaptation unfortunately led to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes an "allowance" on fansubbers to continue subbing certain series]], as [=4Kids=]' DVD releases rarely, if ever, had any of the original Japanese audio. Also of note, Sanji's voice actor David Moo retired from the anime industry altogether in no small part because of fan ire against him for not only his performance but things that weren't really his fault, and became a Brooklyn-based bartender. Not helping matters is that Moo's only ''other'' notable role, Xellos in ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'' is also extremely polarizing.\\\

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Arguments about the company's editing practices came came to a head with ''Manga/OnePiece'', which remains the unfortunate darkest mark on their reputation. This dub took the company's (in)famous practices, such as [[{{Bowdlerise}} excessive censorship]], replacing ''all'' the music (capped off with a ThemeTuneRap), skipping over several important episodes, [[CutAndPasteTranslation remixing elements]] of episodes, drastic changes to the plots, [[CulturalTranslation Americanization]], and low quality voice acting, and cranked them UpToEleven, all the while showcasing none of their redeeming qualities. All of this directed ire on the entire company by some people. While [=4Kids=] wanted nothing to do with the show since they were aware of how un-family friendly it was, Toei forced them to dub it anyway as they would only license other shows to [=4Kids=] as part of a packaged deal. Because of this, that adaptation unfortunately led to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes an "allowance" on fansubbers to continue subbing certain series]], as [=4Kids=]' DVD releases rarely, if ever, had any of the original Japanese audio. Also of note, Sanji's voice actor David Moo retired from the anime industry altogether in no small part because of fan ire against him for not only his performance but things that weren't really his fault, and became a Brooklyn-based bartender. Not helping matters is that Moo's only ''other'' notable role, Xellos in ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'' is also extremely polarizing.\\\
18th Oct '17 1:04:16 PM gjjones
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However, the company's dub of ''One Piece'' remains the unfortunate darkest mark on their reputation. This dub took the company's (in)famous practices, such as [[{{Bowdlerise}} excessive censorship]], replacing ''all'' the music (capped off with a ThemeTuneRap), skipping over several important episodes, [[CutAndPasteTranslation remixing elements]] of episodes, drastic changes to the plots, [[CulturalTranslation Americanization]], and low quality voice acting, and cranked them UpToEleven, all the while showcasing none of their redeeming qualities. All of this directed ire on the entire company by some people. While [=4Kids=] wanted nothing to do with the show since they were aware of how un-family friendly it was, Toei forced them to dub it anyway as they would only license other shows to [=4Kids=] as part of a packaged deal. Because of this, that adaptation unfortunately led to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes an "allowance" on fansubbers to continue subbing certain series]], as [=4Kids=]' DVD releases rarely, if ever, had any of the original Japanese audio. Also of note, Sanji's voice actor David Moo retired from the anime industry altogether in no small part because of fan ire against him for not only his performance but things that weren't really his fault, and became a Brooklyn-based bartender. Not helping matters is that Moo's only ''other'' notable role, Xellos in ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'' is also extremely polarizing.\\\

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However, Arguments about the company's dub of ''One Piece'' editing practices came came to a head with ''Manga/OnePiece'', which remains the unfortunate darkest mark on their reputation. This dub took the company's (in)famous practices, such as [[{{Bowdlerise}} excessive censorship]], replacing ''all'' the music (capped off with a ThemeTuneRap), skipping over several important episodes, [[CutAndPasteTranslation remixing elements]] of episodes, drastic changes to the plots, [[CulturalTranslation Americanization]], and low quality voice acting, and cranked them UpToEleven, all the while showcasing none of their redeeming qualities. All of this directed ire on the entire company by some people. While [=4Kids=] wanted nothing to do with the show since they were aware of how un-family friendly it was, Toei forced them to dub it anyway as they would only license other shows to [=4Kids=] as part of a packaged deal. Because of this, that adaptation unfortunately led to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes an "allowance" on fansubbers to continue subbing certain series]], as [=4Kids=]' DVD releases rarely, if ever, had any of the original Japanese audio. Also of note, Sanji's voice actor David Moo retired from the anime industry altogether in no small part because of fan ire against him for not only his performance but things that weren't really his fault, and became a Brooklyn-based bartender. Not helping matters is that Moo's only ''other'' notable role, Xellos in ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'' is also extremely polarizing.\\\
18th Oct '17 1:00:04 PM gjjones
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The hatred garnered from their dubs would be worn out as the company became significantly less prominent than it used to be, and its fan following became the only people who still cared. As the 2000s anime boom wore down, [=4Kids=] sold the rights to their biggest CashCowFranchise, ''Pokémon'', to The Pokémon Company International in 2006. After [=4Kids=] legally dropped the license to ''One Piece'' in 2006, Creator/FUNimation [[note]]which ironically enough was the company's home video partner from 2002 to 2009, with exceptions being ''Pokémon'' and ''One Piece''[[/note]] picked up the rights one year later and redubbed the whole series far more faithfully to the original. In the late 2000s, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received or, at least, drew less ire. With Creator/KidsWB's demise in 2008, 4Kids became for better or for worse the last remnant of what was once an institution. In 2009, the series and merchandising rights to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were bought out by Nickelodeon as a component of their purchase of the franchise. Nick would also snatch up the Winx Club franchise in the following year. With only ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and a few lesser shows left, 4Kids filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in April 2011 months after the departure of longtime CEO Alfred R. Kahn. Creator/TVTokyo and Nihon Ad Systems then filed a lawsuit against 4Kids over ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', accusing them of underpaying anime licencors and conspiring with Funimation to avoid royalty payments by hiding the income. Later, an auction resulted in the company being sold in pieces; Creator/{{Konami}} picked up the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' franchise and placed it under the 4K Media division, while Creator/SabanBrands acquired the rest of [=4Kids=]' anime and cartoons.\\\

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The hatred garnered from their dubs would be worn out as the company became significantly less prominent than it used to be, and its fan following became the only people who still cared. As the 2000s anime boom wore down, [=4Kids=] sold the rights to their biggest CashCowFranchise, ''Pokémon'', to The Pokémon Company International in 2006. After [=4Kids=] legally dropped the license to ''One Piece'' in 2006, Creator/FUNimation [[note]]which ironically enough was the company's home video partner from 2002 to 2009, with exceptions being ''Pokémon'' and ''One Piece''[[/note]] picked up the rights one year later and redubbed the whole series far more faithfully to the original. In the late 2000s, Meanwhile, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received or, at least, drew less ire. With Creator/KidsWB's demise in 2008, 4Kids became for better or for worse the last remnant of what was once an institution. In 2009, the series and merchandising rights to Teenage ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Turtles'' were bought out by Nickelodeon Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} as a component of their purchase of [[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles the franchise. franchise]]. Nick would also snatch up the Winx Club ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'' franchise in the following year.year.. With only ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and a few lesser shows left, 4Kids filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in April 2011 months after the departure of longtime CEO Alfred R. Kahn. Creator/TVTokyo and Nihon Ad Systems then filed a lawsuit against 4Kids over ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', accusing them of underpaying anime licencors and conspiring with Funimation to avoid royalty payments by hiding the income. Later, an auction resulted in the company being sold in pieces; Creator/{{Konami}} picked up the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' franchise and placed it under the 4K Media division, while Creator/SabanBrands acquired the rest of [=4Kids=]' anime and cartoons.\\\
18th Oct '17 12:57:38 PM gjjones
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As the 2000s anime boom wore down, [=4Kids=] sold the rights to their biggest CashCowFranchise, ''Pokémon'', to The Pokémon Company International in 2006. After [=4Kids=] legally dropped the license to ''One Piece'' in 2006, Creator/FUNimation [[note]]which ironically enough was the company's home video partner from 2002 to 2009, with exceptions being ''Pokémon'' and ''One Piece''[[/note]] picked up the rights one year later and redubbed the whole series far more faithfully to the original. In the late 2000s, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received or, at least, drew less ire. ''Winx Club'' and ''TMNT'' had their licenses cancelled and transferred to Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} (the latter alongside the whole ''Ninja Turtles'' franchise). With Kids' WB!'s demise in 2008, 4Kids became for better or for worse the last remnant of what was once an institution. While its fan following became the only people who still cared then lost its slot on Creator/{{Fox}}'s schedule in 2009 in a payment dispute and was unceremoniously replaced with literal {{Infomercial}}s. With only ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and a few lesser shows left, 4Kids filed for bankruptcy in 2011 after their longtime CEO stepped down. Creator/TVTokyo and Nihon Ad Systems then filed a lawsuit against 4Kids over ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', accusing them of underpaying anime licencors and conspiring with Funimation to avoid royalty payments by hiding the income. Creator/{{Konami}} picked up the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' franchise and placed it under the 4K Media division, while Creator/SabanBrands acquired the rest of [=4Kids=]' anime and cartoons.\\\
Once one of the most popular English anime producers, 4Kids has been held up by some as ''the'' example of everything wrong with dubbing, to the point that most of their productions are long off the air, with ''Pokémon'' seeming to be the only dub of theirs still viewed in a positive light. The company later re-emerged as 4Licensing Corporation with only a handful of shows left and a new focus on making sports apparel, but in September 2016, they filed for bankruptcy ''[[http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160922006380/en/4Licensing-Corporation-Files-Chapter-11-Bankruptcy again]]''. With all their former licenses scattered between different companies and their financial problems, anime fans will no longer be able to experience the company's notorious practices, which may be fortunate for some, but it is unfortunate for others.

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The hatred garnered from their dubs would be worn out as the company became significantly less prominent than it used to be, and its fan following became the only people who still cared. As the 2000s anime boom wore down, [=4Kids=] sold the rights to their biggest CashCowFranchise, ''Pokémon'', to The Pokémon Company International in 2006. After [=4Kids=] legally dropped the license to ''One Piece'' in 2006, Creator/FUNimation [[note]]which ironically enough was the company's home video partner from 2002 to 2009, with exceptions being ''Pokémon'' and ''One Piece''[[/note]] picked up the rights one year later and redubbed the whole series far more faithfully to the original. In the late 2000s, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received or, at least, drew less ire. ''Winx Club'' and ''TMNT'' had their licenses cancelled and transferred to Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} (the latter alongside the whole ''Ninja Turtles'' franchise). With Kids' WB!'s Creator/KidsWB's demise in 2008, 4Kids became for better or for worse the last remnant of what was once an institution. While its fan In 2009, the series and merchandising rights to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were bought out by Nickelodeon as a component of their purchase of the franchise. Nick would also snatch up the Winx Club franchise in the following became the only people who still cared then lost its slot on Creator/{{Fox}}'s schedule in 2009 in a payment dispute and was unceremoniously replaced with literal {{Infomercial}}s. year. With only ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and a few lesser shows left, 4Kids filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in April 2011 months after their the departure of longtime CEO stepped down.Alfred R. Kahn. Creator/TVTokyo and Nihon Ad Systems then filed a lawsuit against 4Kids over ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', accusing them of underpaying anime licencors and conspiring with Funimation to avoid royalty payments by hiding the income. Later, an auction resulted in the company being sold in pieces; Creator/{{Konami}} picked up the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' franchise and placed it under the 4K Media division, while Creator/SabanBrands acquired the rest of [=4Kids=]' anime and cartoons.\\\
Once one of the most popular English anime producers, 4Kids has been held up by some as ''the'' example of everything wrong with dubbing, to the point that most of their productions are long off the air, with ''Pokémon'' seeming to be the only dub of theirs theirs, as well as their homegrown properties and acquisitions, still viewed in a positive light. The company later re-emerged as 4Licensing Corporation with only a handful of shows left and a new focus on making sports apparel, but in September 2016, [[HistoryRepeats they filed for bankruptcy bankruptcy]] ''[[http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160922006380/en/4Licensing-Corporation-Files-Chapter-11-Bankruptcy again]]''.again]]'' and folded the next year. With all their former licenses scattered between different companies and their financial problems, anime fans will no longer be able to experience the company's notorious practices, which may be fortunate for some, but it is unfortunate for others.
18th Oct '17 12:52:31 PM gjjones
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However, the company's dub of ''One Piece'' remains the unfortunate darkest mark on their reputation. This dub took the company's (in)famous practices, such as [[{{Bowdlerise}} excessive censorship]], replacing ''all'' the music (capped off with a ThemeTuneRap), skipping over several important episodes, [[CutAndPasteTranslation remixing elements]] of episodes, drastic changes to the plots, [[CulturalTranslation Americanization]], and low quality voice acting, and cranked them UpToEleven, all the while showcasing none of their redeeming qualities. All of this directed ire on the entire company by fans, and it remains the darkest mark on its reputation. While [=4Kids=] wanted nothing to do with the show since they were aware of how un-family friendly it was, Toei forced them to dub it anyway as they would only license other shows to [=4Kids=] as part of a packaged deal. Because of this, that adaptation unfortunately led to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes an "allowance" on fansubbers to continue subbing certain series]], as [=4Kids=]' DVD releases rarely, if ever, had any of the original Japanese audio. Also of note, Sanji's voice actor David Moo retired from the anime industry altogether in no small part because of fan ire against him for not only his performance but things that weren't really his fault, and became a Brooklyn-based bartender. Not helping matters is that Moo's only ''other'' notable role, Xellos in ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'' is also extremely polarizing.\\\
As the 2000s anime boom wore down, [=4Kids=] sold the rights to their biggest CashCowFranchise, ''Pokémon'', to The Pokémon Company International in 2006. After [=4Kids=] legally dropped the license to ''One Piece'' in 2006, Creator/FUNimation [[note]]which ironically enough was the company's home video partner from 2002 to 2009, with exceptions being ''Pokémon'' and ''One Piece''[[/note]] picked up the rights one year later and redubbed the whole series far more faithfully to the original. ''Winx Club'' and ''TMNT'' had their licenses cancelled and transferred to Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} (the latter alongside the whole ''Ninja Turtles'' franchise). While its fan following became the only people who still cared then lost its slot on Creator/{{Fox}}'s schedule in 2009 in a payment dispute and was unceremoniously replaced with literal {{Infomercial}}s. With only ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and a few lesser shows left, 4Kids filed for bankruptcy in 2011 after their longtime CEO stepped down. Creator/TVTokyo and Nihon Ad Systems then filed a lawsuit against 4Kids over ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', accusing them of underpaying anime licencors and conspiring with Funimation to avoid royalty payments by hiding the income. Creator/{{Konami}} picked up the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' franchise and placed it under the 4K Media division, while Creator/SabanBrands acquired the rest of [=4Kids=]' anime and cartoons.\\\
Once one of the most popular English anime producers, 4Kids is now held up as ''the'' example of everything wrong with dubbing, to the point that most of their productions are long off the air, with ''Pokémon'' seeming to be the only dub of theirs still viewed in a positive light. The company later re-emerged as 4Licensing Corporation with only a handful of shows left and a new focus on making sports apparel, but in September 2016, they filed for bankruptcy ''[[http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160922006380/en/4Licensing-Corporation-Files-Chapter-11-Bankruptcy again]]''. With all their former licenses scattered between different companies and their financial problems, anime fans will no longer be able to experience the company's notorious practices.

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However, the company's dub of ''One Piece'' remains the unfortunate darkest mark on their reputation. This dub took the company's (in)famous practices, such as [[{{Bowdlerise}} excessive censorship]], replacing ''all'' the music (capped off with a ThemeTuneRap), skipping over several important episodes, [[CutAndPasteTranslation remixing elements]] of episodes, drastic changes to the plots, [[CulturalTranslation Americanization]], and low quality voice acting, and cranked them UpToEleven, all the while showcasing none of their redeeming qualities. All of this directed ire on the entire company by fans, and it remains the darkest mark on its reputation.some people. While [=4Kids=] wanted nothing to do with the show since they were aware of how un-family friendly it was, Toei forced them to dub it anyway as they would only license other shows to [=4Kids=] as part of a packaged deal. Because of this, that adaptation unfortunately led to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes an "allowance" on fansubbers to continue subbing certain series]], as [=4Kids=]' DVD releases rarely, if ever, had any of the original Japanese audio. Also of note, Sanji's voice actor David Moo retired from the anime industry altogether in no small part because of fan ire against him for not only his performance but things that weren't really his fault, and became a Brooklyn-based bartender. Not helping matters is that Moo's only ''other'' notable role, Xellos in ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'' is also extremely polarizing.\\\
As the 2000s anime boom wore down, [=4Kids=] sold the rights to their biggest CashCowFranchise, ''Pokémon'', to The Pokémon Company International in 2006. After [=4Kids=] legally dropped the license to ''One Piece'' in 2006, Creator/FUNimation [[note]]which ironically enough was the company's home video partner from 2002 to 2009, with exceptions being ''Pokémon'' and ''One Piece''[[/note]] picked up the rights one year later and redubbed the whole series far more faithfully to the original. In the late 2000s, 4Kids' focus shifted away from anime to homegrown properties and acquisitions from other countries, which generally fit the company's creative philosophy much better and have obtained much more faithful treatment. What anime they still dubbed was generally well-received or, at least, drew less ire. ''Winx Club'' and ''TMNT'' had their licenses cancelled and transferred to Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} (the latter alongside the whole ''Ninja Turtles'' franchise). With Kids' WB!'s demise in 2008, 4Kids became for better or for worse the last remnant of what was once an institution. While its fan following became the only people who still cared then lost its slot on Creator/{{Fox}}'s schedule in 2009 in a payment dispute and was unceremoniously replaced with literal {{Infomercial}}s. With only ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' and a few lesser shows left, 4Kids filed for bankruptcy in 2011 after their longtime CEO stepped down. Creator/TVTokyo and Nihon Ad Systems then filed a lawsuit against 4Kids over ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', accusing them of underpaying anime licencors and conspiring with Funimation to avoid royalty payments by hiding the income. Creator/{{Konami}} picked up the ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' franchise and placed it under the 4K Media division, while Creator/SabanBrands acquired the rest of [=4Kids=]' anime and cartoons.\\\
Once one of the most popular English anime producers, 4Kids is now has been held up by some as ''the'' example of everything wrong with dubbing, to the point that most of their productions are long off the air, with ''Pokémon'' seeming to be the only dub of theirs still viewed in a positive light. The company later re-emerged as 4Licensing Corporation with only a handful of shows left and a new focus on making sports apparel, but in September 2016, they filed for bankruptcy ''[[http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160922006380/en/4Licensing-Corporation-Files-Chapter-11-Bankruptcy again]]''. With all their former licenses scattered between different companies and their financial problems, anime fans will no longer be able to experience the company's notorious practices.
practices, which may be fortunate for some, but it is unfortunate for others.
17th Oct '17 4:30:13 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Wrestling/AshleyMassaro was very popular when she was first introduced. She won the third Wrestling/WWEDivaSearch easily by fan votes and was liked for her unique look -- as well as expressing a desire to wrestle. In her initial months, she was held up as a Diva with lots of potential. Things went downhill around the time she was chosen to pose for ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}''. After a disastrous match at ''[=WrestleMania=] 23'' with Wrestling/{{Melina}}, constant injuries, as well as fellow Divas such as Wrestling/MichelleMcCool, {{Wrestling/Layla}}, Wrestling/CandiceMichelle, and Wrestling/KellyKelly putting work in to become better wrestlers, fans disappeared from Ashley's side. The final nail came when she was exposed as possibly working for a high-class escort agency, and requested to be released in order to care for her ill daughter. While she attempted to make a comeback on the indies, she eventually got a reputation for no-showing events she was advertised for. Nowadays, she's remembered as a representation of everything that was wrong with the Divas division after Wrestling/{{Lita}} and Wrestling/TrishStratus retired.

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* Wrestling/AshleyMassaro was very popular when she was first introduced. She won the third Wrestling/WWEDivaSearch easily by fan votes and was liked for her unique look -- as well as expressing a desire to wrestle. In her initial months, she was held up as a Diva with lots of potential. Things went downhill around the time she was chosen to pose for ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}''. After a disastrous match at ''[=WrestleMania=] 23'' with Wrestling/{{Melina}}, constant injuries, as well as fellow Divas such as Wrestling/MichelleMcCool, {{Wrestling/Layla}}, Wrestling/CandiceMichelle, and Wrestling/KellyKelly putting work in to become better wrestlers, fans disappeared from Ashley's side. The final nail came when she was exposed as possibly working for a high-class escort agency, and requested to be released in order to care for her ill daughter. While she attempted to make a comeback on the indies, she eventually got a reputation for no-showing events she was advertised for.for(it was eight years before she had any match that got anyone's attention and the average wrestling fan can't be expected to stick with anything for more than {{seven|yearrule}}). Nowadays, she's remembered as a representation of everything that was wrong with the Divas division after Wrestling/{{Lita}} and Wrestling/TrishStratus retired.
17th Oct '17 4:25:00 AM HMSaph
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* Samuel Richardson's ''Pamela; or, Virtue Rewarded'' has always been divisive, but was a best-seller in 1740. Its psychological analysis was revolutionary for its time and remains important, but its story...has not aged at all well, to say the least. Many people nowadays take the side of Richardson's rival, Henry Fielding, arguing that its morally perfect main lead and tale of LoveRedeems makes the novel virtually impossible to connect to. It's much less popular now than it used to be. Richardson's other main novel, ''{{Literature/Clarissa}}'', has fared better.

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* Samuel Richardson's ''Pamela; or, Virtue Rewarded'' has always been divisive, but was a best-seller in 1740. Its psychological analysis was revolutionary for its time and remains important, but its story...has not aged at all well, to say the least. Many people nowadays take the side of Richardson's rival, Henry Fielding, arguing that its morally perfect main lead and tale of LoveRedeems makes the novel virtually impossible to connect to. It's much less popular now than it used to be. Richardson's other main novel, ''{{Literature/Clarissa}}'', has fared better.
17th Oct '17 4:23:39 AM HMSaph
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* Samuel Richardson's ''Pamela; or, Virtue Rewarded'' has always been divisive, but was a best-seller in 1740. Its psychological analysis was revolutionary for its time and remains important, but its story...has not aged at all well, to say the least. Many people nowadays take the side of Richardson's rival, Henry Fielding, arguing that its morally perfect main lead and tale of LoveRedeems makes the novel virtually impossible to connect to. It's much less popular now than it used to be. Richardson's other main novel, ''{{Literature/Clarissa}}'', has fared better.
** Perfect characters in general were once looked up to rather than disliked in centuries long past. They were seen as great moral guides. Nowadays, people revile such characters for being unrealistic and uninteresting, failing to highlight the reality that the very definition of human is imperfect.
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* Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio spent years on the Mexican circuit as Dos Caras, Jr, getting attention and work with enterprises of other countries. He signed a contract with WWE in 2009. His Wrestling/TedDiBiase meets Wrestling/JohnBradshawLayfield meets Wrestling/EddieGuerrero gimmick was a huge hit with fans, becoming one of the most popular heels on the WWE roster, winning the Royal Rumble six months into his debut, and scoring a championship match at ''[=WrestleMania=] 27'' against Wrestling/{{Edge}} in what would be the latter's final match. While his loss there quickly dried up his momentum, he was able to rebound at that year's Money in the Bank, winning the contract for the WWE Championship and ultimately cashing it in on CM Punk at that year's edition of ''[=SummerSlam=]''.\\\

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* Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio spent years on the Mexican circuit as Dos Caras, Jr, getting attention and work with enterprises of other countries. He signed a contract with US based WWE in 2009. His Wrestling/TedDiBiase meets Wrestling/JohnBradshawLayfield meets Wrestling/EddieGuerrero gimmick was a huge hit with fans, becoming one of the most popular heels on the WWE roster, winning the Royal Rumble six months into his debut, and scoring a championship match at ''[=WrestleMania=] 27'' against Wrestling/{{Edge}} in what would be the latter's final match. While his loss there quickly dried up his momentum, he was able to rebound at that year's Money in the Bank, winning the contract for the WWE Championship and ultimately cashing it in on CM Punk at that year's edition of ''[=SummerSlam=]''.\\\
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* Wrestling/TheNexus. There was a time when the WWE version of NXT was not very well liked, but fans were of the opinion that if The Nexus was the goal all along, then the terrible show was worth it. NXT was a "contest" style show with "rookies" ranging from true rookies, to guys with a decent amount of experience to one guy who had been wrestling since Wrestling/{{WCW}} still existed. Instead of building up to matches between the best guys, like a regular wrestling show, more time was given to obstacle courses, trivia and drinking soda pop. The only wrestler who managed to look halfway decent was Wrestling/BrianDanielson, who was actively buried on commentary, given the most losses and then eliminated through NewRulesAsThePlotDemands. But after winning the contest, Wrestling/WadeBarrett unexpectedly turned up on the next WWE show leading all the other "rookies" on a rampage to destroy everything and everyone in their path out of retaliation for being put on through such a terrible experience. It became the most positively received WWE event of the year, up to that point. Bryan Danielson, the most experienced and popular wrestler, being arbitrary fired did hurt the enthusiasm a little, but he was still wrestling on the independent circuit and stating he had no ill will over it while the remaining "rookies" continued to destroy everything in their path, convincing fans The Nexus would still go down in history as one of WWE's most iconic stables. Then the inevitable big showdown on pay per view ended with The Nexus suffering a humiliatingly anticlimactic loss. Gone was all the momentum and WWE's attempts to restore The Nexus just reminded people of why they hated the NXT show. Bryan Danielson returned, and still very popular, but that didn't help The Nexus as he was no longer associated with it. Instead, the less likable Wrestling/CMPunk was added to the group to invigorate it, but fans began to ignore the "New Nexus" altogether and focus solely on Punk, since he was much more interesting in the ring and on the microphone that the rest put together. Wade Barrett tried to duplicate The Nexus's initial success with "The Corre", and did a pretty good job, much better than "The New Nexus" until, once again, the big fight came on pay per view and [[HistoryRepeats The Corre were destroyed, losing all momentum in the process.]] NXT would try to produce another revival of The Nexus with "Genesis" but this attempt didn't even get off to a good start, was the reason for CM Punk's entry as opposed to more focus on "rookies" and again resulted in the firing of the most popular wrestler, with the added scandal of WWE releasing the technically true but disingenuous statement of Wrestling/LowKi asking for his release. NXT would eventually take on a standard wrestling show formula, becoming much more popular in the process, making WWE's first effort that much more hated, and causing fans to proclaim a stable of "rookies" was destined to fail from the beginning, The Nexus mainly being brought up to mock how Danielson was fired, it's three "successors" [[FanonDiscontinuity not even getting that much,]] or to say Wrestling/TheShield PowerTrio is what The Nexus should have been.

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* Wrestling/TheNexus. There was a time when the WWE version of NXT was not very well liked, but fans were of the opinion that if The Nexus was the goal all along, then the terrible show was worth it. NXT was a "contest" style show with "rookies" ranging from true rookies, to guys with a decent amount of experience to one guy who had been wrestling since Wrestling/{{WCW}} still existed. Instead of building up to matches between the best guys, like a regular wrestling show, more time was given to obstacle courses, trivia and drinking soda pop. The only wrestler who managed to look halfway decent was Wrestling/BrianDanielson, Wrestling/BryanDanielson, who was actively buried on commentary, given the most losses and then eliminated through NewRulesAsThePlotDemands. But after winning the contest, Wrestling/WadeBarrett unexpectedly turned up on the next WWE show leading all the other "rookies" on a rampage to destroy everything and everyone in their path out of retaliation for being put on through such a terrible experience. It became the most positively received WWE event of the year, up to that point. Bryan Danielson, the most experienced and popular wrestler, being arbitrary fired did hurt the enthusiasm a little, but he was still wrestling on the independent circuit and stating he had no ill will over it while the remaining "rookies" continued to destroy everything in their path, convincing fans The Nexus would still go down in history as one of WWE's most iconic stables. Then the inevitable big showdown on pay per view ended with The Nexus suffering a humiliatingly anticlimactic loss. Gone was all the momentum and WWE's attempts to restore The Nexus just reminded people of why they hated the NXT show. Bryan Danielson returned, and still very popular, but that didn't help The Nexus as he was no longer associated with it. Instead, the less likable Wrestling/CMPunk was added to the group to invigorate it, but fans began to ignore the "New Nexus" altogether and focus solely on Punk, since he was much more interesting in the ring and on the microphone that the rest put together. Wade Barrett tried to duplicate The Nexus's initial success with "The Corre", and did a pretty good job, much better than "The New Nexus" until, once again, the big fight came on pay per view and [[HistoryRepeats The Corre were destroyed, losing all momentum in the process.]] NXT would try to produce another revival of The Nexus with "Genesis" but this attempt didn't even get off to a good start, was the reason for CM Punk's entry as opposed to more focus on "rookies" and again resulted in the firing of the most popular wrestler, with the added scandal of WWE releasing the technically true but disingenuous statement of Wrestling/LowKi asking for his release. NXT would eventually take on a standard wrestling show formula, becoming much more popular in the process, making WWE's first effort that much more hated, and causing fans to proclaim a stable of "rookies" was destined to fail from the beginning, The Nexus mainly being brought up to mock how Danielson was fired, it's three "successors" [[FanonDiscontinuity not even getting that much,]] or to say Wrestling/TheShield PowerTrio is what The Nexus should have been.
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