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4th May '17 7:34:56 AM Redmess
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A genre that critics [[{{Hatedom}} hate on principle]]. If a work or creator is from one of the forbidden genres, it is automatically bad, no matter what the creator or work makes. A critic who actually likes any of this stuff has to bend over backward, apologizing that these works are GuiltyPleasures and they know [[FanHater they shouldn't like the stuff]]. Some critics seem unable to write a review of works they like without an obligatory kick to the dead horse -- "this is so much better than that other crap!" Times when these genres were popular are declared to be the DorkAge.

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A music genre that critics [[{{Hatedom}} hate on principle]]. If a work or creator is from one of the forbidden genres, it is automatically bad, no matter what the creator or work makes. A critic who actually likes any of this stuff has to bend over backward, apologizing that these works are GuiltyPleasures and they know [[FanHater they shouldn't like the stuff]]. Some critics seem unable to write a review of works they like without an obligatory kick to the dead horse -- "this is so much better than that other crap!" Times when these genres were popular are declared to be the DorkAge.
6th Apr '17 3:08:29 PM TheBigBopper
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Probably more of a target for amateur critics than professionals, this genre is also the one that most non-critics who start getting interested in music will hate the most. From Fabian and Music/TheMonkees to *Music/{{NSYNC}} and Music/BritneySpears, performers who serve as faces for a faceless team of composers are viewed as outright traitors to music. They are the monster, the roots of the evil corporate machine that suppresses true music. They perform catchy but empty pop designed to hypnotize teenagers into becoming shopping-obsessed zombies. They... well, you know the drill. The average critic cares a lot about sincerity, so singers who only sing (instead of writing their own material) are unacceptable (depending on how long ago the artist came to prominence -- no one's criticising Music/NatKingCole or Music/FrankSinatra for not writing their own tunes...) Professional critics have to (publicly) give 'equal time' to modern manufactured bands for obvious reasons, but are free to trash selected out-of-date whipping boys (like the Monkees) with gusto. And don't even mention the words "Milli Vanilli" around them.

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Probably more of a target for amateur critics than professionals, this genre is also the one that most non-critics who start getting interested in music will hate the most. From Fabian and Music/TheMonkees to *Music/{{NSYNC}} Music/{{NSYNC}} and Music/BritneySpears, performers who serve as faces for a faceless team of composers are viewed as outright traitors to music. They are the monster, the roots of the evil corporate machine that suppresses true music. They perform catchy but empty pop designed to hypnotize teenagers into becoming shopping-obsessed zombies. They... well, you know the drill. The average critic cares a lot about sincerity, so singers who only sing (instead of writing their own material) are unacceptable (depending on how long ago the artist came to prominence -- no one's criticising Music/NatKingCole or Music/FrankSinatra for not writing their own tunes...) Professional critics have to (publicly) give 'equal time' to modern manufactured bands for obvious reasons, but are free to trash selected out-of-date whipping boys (like the Monkees) with gusto. And don't even mention the words "Milli Vanilli" around them.
23rd Mar '17 5:06:26 AM Adept
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It's been produced for more than 20 years, but it looks like its number is almost up, it's fallen out of popularity even in its main market, Japan. Para Para dancing, its raison d'etre, has also mostly gone out of style and is largely considered a passing fad. Dave Rodgers (Giancarlo Pasquini), one of the founding fathers of the genre, is himself abandoning Eurobeat and moving to other styles, along with the InitialD anime adaptation ending in 2014 (probably one of the reasons why one would know about the genre) and phasing it out in favor of J-rock in the newer Legend movies (big-screen remakes of First Stage), there's no sense in [[{{Pun}} Eurobeating a dead horse]].

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It's been produced for more than 20 years, but it looks like its number is almost up, it's fallen out of popularity even in its main market, Japan. Para Para dancing, its raison d'etre, has also mostly gone out of style and is largely considered a passing fad. Dave Rodgers (Giancarlo Pasquini), one of the founding fathers of the genre, is himself abandoning Eurobeat and moving to other styles, along with the InitialD ''Manga/InitialD'' anime adaptation ending in 2014 (probably one of the reasons why one would know about the genre) and phasing it out in favor of J-rock in the newer Legend movies (big-screen remakes of First Stage), there's no sense in [[{{Pun}} Eurobeating a dead horse]].
23rd Feb '17 3:36:44 AM NiGHTS
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Ironically the fusion genre that pushed Contemporary R&B off the charts is also deader than a door nail. Its heavy hip-hop influence was its undoing: the harder hip-hop acts, primarily the early, socially-conscious gangsta rap movement, criticized it as a watered-down version of their own music, incorporating their production techniques but commercialized for a wider audience and missing the core message. Rapper Music/IceCube, in his song "Wrong Nigga To Fuck Wit," uttered the immortal line, "It ain't no pop 'cause that sucks/And you can new jack swing on my nuts." By the end of the early 90's, it had faded away. Others place the blame on its over saturation on urban radio. It didn't help that 90% of it was produced by the same producer (Teddy Reilly), giving different artists the same redundant production style.

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Ironically the fusion genre that pushed Contemporary R&B off the charts is also deader than a door nail. Its heavy hip-hop influence was its undoing: the harder hip-hop acts, primarily the early, socially-conscious gangsta rap movement, criticized it as a watered-down version of their own music, incorporating their production techniques but commercialized for a wider audience and missing the core message. Rapper Music/IceCube, in his song "Wrong Nigga To Fuck Wit," uttered the immortal line, "It ain't no pop 'cause that sucks/And you can new jack swing on my nuts." By the end of the early 90's, it had faded away. Others place the blame on its over saturation on urban radio. It didn't help that 90% of it was produced by the same producer (Teddy Reilly), Riley), giving different artists the same redundant production style.
4th Jan '17 3:27:41 PM TSims
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Ironically the fusion genre that pushed Contemporary R&B off the charts is also deader than a door nail. Its heavy hip-hop influence was its undoing: the harder hip-hop acts, primarily the early, socially-conscious gangsta rap movement, criticized it as a watered-down version of their own music, incorporating their production techniques but commercialized for a wider audience and missing the core message. Rapper Music/IceCube, in his song "Wrong Nigga To Fuck Wit," uttered the immortal line, "It ain't no pop 'cause that sucks/And you can new jack swing on my nuts." By the end of the early 90's, it had faded away.

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Ironically the fusion genre that pushed Contemporary R&B off the charts is also deader than a door nail. Its heavy hip-hop influence was its undoing: the harder hip-hop acts, primarily the early, socially-conscious gangsta rap movement, criticized it as a watered-down version of their own music, incorporating their production techniques but commercialized for a wider audience and missing the core message. Rapper Music/IceCube, in his song "Wrong Nigga To Fuck Wit," uttered the immortal line, "It ain't no pop 'cause that sucks/And you can new jack swing on my nuts." By the end of the early 90's, it had faded away.
away. Others place the blame on its over saturation on urban radio. It didn't help that 90% of it was produced by the same producer (Teddy Reilly), giving different artists the same redundant production style.
31st Dec '16 6:52:27 PM nombretomado
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In Europe, everything and everyone that has anything to do with the EurovisionSongContest is reviled by critics. This includes such acts as Music/{{ABBA}}.

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In Europe, everything and everyone that has anything to do with the EurovisionSongContest Series/EurovisionSongContest is reviled by critics. This includes such acts as Music/{{ABBA}}.
13th Oct '16 7:10:42 AM MrCandle
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Many think the genre died in the late 90's (Dr. Dre himself thinks so as well). But this is somewhat contested because some (mostly horribly out-of-touch MoralGuardians) think it's still the popular hip hop genre. The problem with this is that a lot of hip hop that didn't fall into the indie, pop, or alternative banner was automatically placed under the gangsta rap umbrella term...unfairly or not. Usually by cynical alt/indie rap fans. Also the grittier type 1 variants are dead, while a glossier LighterAndSofter version exists in it's place.

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Many think the genre died in the late 90's (Dr. Dre himself thinks so as well). But this is somewhat contested because some (mostly horribly out-of-touch MoralGuardians) think it's still the popular hip hop genre. The problem with this is that a lot of hip hop that didn't fall into the indie, pop, or alternative banner was automatically placed under the gangsta rap umbrella term...unfairly or not. Usually by cynical alt/indie rap fans. Also the grittier type 1 variants are dead, while a glossier LighterAndSofter version exists in it's its place.
1st Aug '16 1:25:44 AM Malvina
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NuMetal is an umbrella term coined in the mid-1990s to refer to music that blends heavy metal elements with other styles, typically {{Industrial}} and AlternativeMetal. NuMetal is hated by many metalheads, who stereotype it as commercial and musically simple. It's also hated by many non-metalheads, who view it as crass, misogynistic and pointlessly obnoxious - a bunch of {{Jerk Jock}}s "stealing" the clothes of the weird kids. In fact, there are many that argue NuMetal isn't even a subgenre of metal, but rather a fusion genre that happens to have noticeable elements of metal in it. although some music critics argue that it is an experimental and diverse genre, which it very well could have been if the more commercially viable elements hadn't been milked to death. The original concept lives on as AvantGardeMetal to some degree, but outside of a few acts that either abandoned the more disliked aspects of the genre or simply got too big to die, the genre of nu metal itself is still largely viewed as a punchline for jokes about late-Nineties suburban excess.

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NuMetal is an umbrella term coined in the mid-1990s to refer to music that blends heavy metal elements with other styles, typically {{Industrial}} and AlternativeMetal. NuMetal is hated by many metalheads, who stereotype it as commercial and musically simple. It's also hated by many non-metalheads, who view it as crass, misogynistic and pointlessly obnoxious - a bunch of {{Jerk Jock}}s "stealing" the clothes of the weird kids. In fact, there are many that argue NuMetal isn't even a subgenre of metal, but rather a fusion genre that happens to have noticeable elements of metal in it. although some Some music critics argue that it is an experimental and diverse genre, which it very well could have been if the more commercially viable elements hadn't been milked to death. The original concept lives on as AvantGardeMetal to some degree, but outside of a few acts that either abandoned the more disliked aspects of the genre or simply got too big to die, the genre of nu metal itself is still largely viewed as a punchline for jokes about late-Nineties suburban excess.
17th May '16 5:03:18 AM erforce
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-->--'''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'''

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Finally, outright parody bands such as SpinalTap may get a bye on the basis that they were really attacking the sort of band they pretend to be.

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Finally, outright parody bands such as SpinalTap [[Film/ThisIsSpinalTap Spinal Tap]] may get a bye on the basis that they were really attacking the sort of band they pretend to be.
6th May '16 7:29:07 AM Luc
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That being said, the genre is worth mentioning because it provides one of the most defensible cases of a "not part of the genre" defense of an artist: Music/JohnnyCash was, by the 1980s, was thought by most country music executives to be washed up and incapable of attracting younger fans. Then he hooked up with producer Music/RickRubin for a series of recordings featuring covers of artists such as Nine Inch Nails in classic Johnny Cash style. These were a huge success with young AlternativeRock fans, revitalizing Cash's career.

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That being said, the genre is worth mentioning because it provides one of the most defensible cases of a "not part of the genre" defense of an artist: Music/JohnnyCash was, by the 1980s, was thought by most country music executives to be washed up and incapable of attracting younger fans. Then he hooked up with producer Music/RickRubin for a series of recordings featuring covers of artists such as Nine Inch Nails in classic Johnny Cash style. These were a huge success with young AlternativeRock fans, revitalizing Cash's career.career.

!!Singer-Songwriter Style (aka "White Guy With Acoustic Guitar")

The complaint here is that a single guy on a guitar or piano is, in essence, the simplest setup you can possibly have, bar a single singer singing acapella. While useful for demos, and songs that require that kind of simplicity (for example, a song clearly intended to show off the singer's raw singing ability), most songs using such a minimal setup do nothing to "earn" the usage of such minimalism, and instead convey the feeling that the artist only put in the bare minimum amount of effort necessary to release the song.
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