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9th Mar '13 12:04:53 AM justanid
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[[caption-width-right:289:[-Oh, [[IncrediblyLamePun this blood's for ME]]? I could have sworn it was someone else's. Silly me-].]]
-> Their love will end worlds!
-->-- ''DeathMate'' advertisement; it proved to be right in an [[HilariousInHindsight ironic way]].

Here, ladies and gentlemen, is a tragic story. Once there were two friends who worked at two different comic companies. Steve Massarsky worked for ValiantComics, and Jim Lee worked for ImageComics. The two came up with an idea: why not initiate an IntercontinuityCrossover? After all, it's TheNineties and crossovers are all the rage!

So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: [[ValiantComics Valiant's]] SolarManOfTheAtom, and WildCATs' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

If the weak premise wasn't bad enough, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment, even though most of Image's side barely qualified as "characters" to begin with. The art, done in the over-the-top Image style, was disgusting to behold, and to top it all off, Deathmate may have been responsible for TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996.

You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image on the other hand was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of Deathmate was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (RobLiefeld produced his contribution a year late, and only after the editor in chief of Valiant Comics came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

By the time the Image half came out, interest in it had dried up, but shop owners had pre-ordered massive numbers of issues when the cross-over had started, and were now left with mountains of unsellable comics. This, more than anything, contributed to the collapse of the comic industry in the 90's. Deathmate was also one of the events that lead to the fall of ValiantComics, as it flooded the company with Image artists, and caused a fundamental shift in the way the company was run.

The advertisement for ''Deathmate'' said "Their love will end worlds!" While it was talking about Solar and Void, it could also be said to be true of Valiant and Image. This disastrous "pairing" did indeed destroy worlds: It destroyed the world where the comic book industry makes $500 million per year. [[CreatorKiller It destroyed]] the world where ValiantComics so much as existed, much less was the third highest selling comic company. And it destroyed the world of small comic book shops, many of which went out of business.

Not ever to be confused with ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion and didn't end up crippling its own medium.
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[[caption-width-right:289:[-Oh, [[IncrediblyLamePun this blood's for ME]]? I could have sworn it was someone else's. Silly me-].]]
-> Their love will end worlds!
-->-- ''DeathMate'' advertisement; it proved to be right in an [[HilariousInHindsight ironic way]].

Here, ladies and gentlemen, is a tragic story. Once there were two friends who worked at two different comic companies. Steve Massarsky worked for ValiantComics, and Jim Lee worked for ImageComics. The two came up with an idea: why not initiate an IntercontinuityCrossover? After all, it's TheNineties and crossovers are all the rage!

So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate was doomed from the start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: [[ValiantComics Valiant's]] SolarManOfTheAtom, and WildCATs' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

If the weak premise wasn't bad enough, Valiant's and Image's writers knew nothing about the other company's characters, resulting in a ton of CharacterDerailment, even though most of Image's side barely qualified as "characters" to begin with. The art, done in the over-the-top Image style, was disgusting to behold, and to top it all off, Deathmate may have been responsible for TheGreatComicsCrashOf1996.

You see, Valiant (as a byproduct of its unique real-time continuity system) was super serious about shipping schedules and deadlines, and produced all its contributions on time. Image on the other hand was notorious for its ScheduleSlip, so, the Valiant half of Deathmate was produced on time, but the Image half was produced late. (RobLiefeld produced his contribution a year late, and only after the editor in chief of Valiant Comics came to his house, refused to leave until it was done and inked it in a hotel room.)

By the time the Image half came out, interest in it had dried up, but shop owners had pre-ordered massive numbers of issues when the cross-over had started, and were now left with mountains of unsellable comics. This, more than anything, contributed to the collapse of the comic industry in the 90's. Deathmate was also one of the events that lead to the fall of ValiantComics, as it flooded the company with Image artists, and caused a fundamental shift in the way the company was run.

The advertisement for ''Deathmate'' said "Their love will end worlds!" While it was talking about Solar and Void, it could also be said to be true of Valiant and Image. This disastrous "pairing" did indeed destroy worlds: It destroyed the world where the comic book industry makes $500 million per year. [[CreatorKiller It destroyed]] the world where ValiantComics so much as existed, much less was the third highest selling comic company. And it destroyed the world of small comic book shops, many of which went out of business.

Not ever to be confused with ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion and didn't end up crippling its own medium.
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11th Dec '12 7:51:01 PM AP
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Here, ladies and gentlemen, is a tragic story. Once there were two friends who worked at two different comic companies. Steve Massarsky worked for ValiantComics, and JimLee worked for ImageComics. The two came up with an idea: why not initiate an IntercontinuityCrossover? After all, it's TheNineties and crossovers are all the rage!

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Here, ladies and gentlemen, is a tragic story. Once there were two friends who worked at two different comic companies. Steve Massarsky worked for ValiantComics, and JimLee Jim Lee worked for ImageComics. The two came up with an idea: why not initiate an IntercontinuityCrossover? After all, it's TheNineties and crossovers are all the rage!
29th Apr '12 3:20:43 AM polutropon
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28th Mar '12 11:12:47 AM Oreochan
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Not ever to be confused with ''DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion and didn't end up crippling its own medium.
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Not ever to be confused with ''DeathNote'', ''Manga/DeathNote'', which thankfully had a set schedule, cohesion and didn't end up crippling its own medium.
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23rd Jan '12 6:19:15 PM Haven
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The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: [[ValiantComics Valiant's]] SolarManOfTheAtom, and [[ImageComics WildC.A.T.S'.]] Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".

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The premise behind Deathmate was weak to begin with: [[ValiantComics Valiant's]] SolarManOfTheAtom, and [[ImageComics WildC.A.T.S'.]] WildCATs' Void met, had sex, and this "begins to unravel the strands of time, creating an AlternateUniverse where Image and Valiant characters exist side by side".
20th Jan '12 10:59:37 AM johnnyfog
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[[caption-width:289: Oh, THAT blood's for me? I thought it was that other blood over there. Silly ol' me.]]


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me-].]]
11th Feb '11 3:03:38 PM Feinoha
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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]].start. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant side keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.
7th Feb '11 6:36:04 PM gregalodon
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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant siding keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant siding side keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.
2nd Feb '11 1:34:19 PM qqq
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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]]mess, not at all helped by the Valiant siding keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.

to:

So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]]mess, snarled]] mess, not at all helped by the Valiant siding keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.
2nd Feb '11 1:34:01 PM qqq
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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they could be read in any order.

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So, having arranged the crossover, called "Deathmate", each company gets to work. Billed as "THE BIGGEST CROSS-OVER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF COMICS!!" Deathmate [[SoBadItsHorrible was doomed from the start]]. Designated by color rather than issue numbers (namely Yellow, Blue, Black, and Red) plus two book-end issues, "Deathmate Prologue" and "Deathmate Epilogue", the four main issues were written so they (In theory) could be read in any order.
order. In practice however they where a disjointed and [[ContinuitySnarl snarled]]mess, not at all helped by the Valiant siding keeping a tight editoral leash, and the Image side letting the writers and artists do whatever they wanted.
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