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21st Feb '17 8:29:07 PM nombretomado
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* From the books of DaleBrown, Patrick [=McLanahan=]'s little brother almost getting killed is what gets him started on a vigilante quest using the titular PoweredArmor of ''The Tin Man''. Eventually, both his wife and brother get killed.

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* From the books of DaleBrown, Creator/DaleBrown, Patrick [=McLanahan=]'s little brother almost getting killed is what gets him started on a vigilante quest using the titular PoweredArmor of ''The Tin Man''. Eventually, both his wife and brother get killed.
17th Jan '17 12:35:11 AM Nazetrime
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* ''WebComic/StandStillStaySilent'': Something, that is most likely linked to the PromotionToParent in his backstory, has caused Onni to fear the [[ForbiddenZone Silent]] [[DeathWorld World]] to the point that he hasn't left his home military base in 11 years when the story starts and he has been doing all he could to keep his younger sister in there as well. Whatever means he used for this apparently backfired, as the younger sister in question is now fascinated with the Silent World an accepts a job to explore it when Onni refuses it, even if it means being separated from her.

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* ''WebComic/StandStillStaySilent'': Something, that is most likely linked to the PromotionToParent in his backstory, has caused Onni to fear the [[ForbiddenZone Silent]] [[DeathWorld World]] to the point that he hasn't left his home military base in 11 years when the story starts and he has been doing all he could to keep his younger sister in there as well. Whatever means he used for this apparently backfired, as the younger sister in question is now fascinated with the Silent World an and accepts a job to explore it when it. Onni refuses it, can't bring himself to accompany her there, even if it means being getting separated from her.
17th Jan '17 12:32:34 AM Nazetrime
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* ''WebComic/StandStillStaySilent'': Something, that is most likely linked to the PromotionToParent in his backstory, has caused Onni to fear the [[ForbiddenZone Silent]] [[DeathWorld World]] to the point that he hasn't left his home military base in 11 years when the story starts and he has been doing all he could to keep his younger sister in there as well. Whatever means he used for this apparently backfired, as the younger sister in question is now fascinated with the Silent World an accepts a job to explore it when Onni refuses it, even if it means being separated from her.
6th Jan '17 8:56:06 PM Prodigy
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** There's also Gordon, with a nasty twist; he tells Dean about how he became a vampire hunter after they got his little sister - only to later reveal that they had turned (not murdered) her, and it was him who tracked her down and killed her.

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** There's also Gordon, with a nasty twist; he tells Dean about how he became a vampire hunter after they got his little sister - only to later reveal that they had turned (not murdered) her, and it was him who tracked her down and killed her.
15th Dec '16 1:10:08 AM Doug86
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* In Creator/MarvelComics, the death of ComicBook/BuckyBarnes at the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 served as a continual source of angst and self-flagellation for ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
* ''ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'' Magneto's Cynicism Catalyst is the Holocaust and other tragic events. After he escaped Auschwitz, he got married to a Gypsy girl named Magda who also ran away from there, moved to Ukraine with her and tried to continue living his life. Then his daughter Anya was killed by a mob and Magda left him after he crossed her personal MoralEventHorizon by [[PapaWolf killing them all]]. Even ''then'', it was still several years (and other crap getting piled on him) before he went completely batshit. Some consider his Moral Event Horizon that turned him into the BigBad working for the CIA to capture Nazis. He captured one that was working for the United States. As punishment for 'crossing the line' (the captured Nazi was working with the CIA to best the Soviet Union), Magneto's handler killed his lover and tried to kill him after giving him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[BullyingADragon Antagonizing Magneto thusly was not a good idea]] and it did not go the way the CIA expected.

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* In Creator/MarvelComics, the death of ComicBook/BuckyBarnes at the end of UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWarII served as a continual source of angst and self-flagellation for ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
* ''ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'' Magneto's ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s Cynicism Catalyst is the Holocaust and other tragic events. After he escaped Auschwitz, he got married to a Gypsy girl named Magda who also ran away from there, moved to Ukraine with her and tried to continue living his life. Then his daughter Anya was killed by a mob and Magda left him after he crossed her personal MoralEventHorizon by [[PapaWolf killing them all]]. Even ''then'', it was still several years (and other crap getting piled on him) before he went completely batshit. Some consider his Moral Event Horizon that turned him into the BigBad working for the CIA to capture Nazis. He captured one that was working for the United States. As punishment for 'crossing the line' (the captured Nazi was working with the CIA to best the Soviet Union), Magneto's handler killed his lover and tried to kill him after giving him a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[BullyingADragon Antagonizing Magneto thusly was not a good idea]] and it did not go the way the CIA expected.



** John Fitzgerald Kennedy had his dead older brother Joseph, who died in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo. Both he and Joseph Jr. were dead older brothers to Bobby and Ted, and sadly, JFK, RFK, and Joe Jr. '''all''' were dead older brothers to Ted, the only one who lived a full life.

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** John Fitzgerald Kennedy had his dead older brother Joseph, who died in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Both he and Joseph Jr. were dead older brothers to Bobby and Ted, and sadly, JFK, RFK, and Joe Jr. '''all''' were dead older brothers to Ted, the only one who lived a full life.
9th Dec '16 3:40:13 PM danime91
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* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'': Yukishiro Enishi became obsessed with getting revenge on Kenshin after he accidentally killed his big sister Tomoe.
23rd Nov '16 2:51:18 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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** Lelouch despises his home country after his father failed to explain his mother's assassination and sent him and Nunually to Japan which he invaded later on. But when he received the power of Geass, he wanted to make a peaceful world for his sister despite his morally questionable methods. Then, it goes straight to the point when his actions got several of his friends in danger and [[spoiler:the death of Shirley broke him up which caused him to go on a DisproportionateRetribution RoaringRampageOfRevenge on the Britannian research facility that experimented on the Geass users and attempt to get Rolo killed for murdering Shirley]].

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** Lelouch despises his home country after his father failed to explain his mother's assassination and sent him and Nunually Nunnally to Japan which he invaded later on. But when he received the power of Geass, he wanted to make a peaceful world for his sister despite his morally questionable methods. Then, it goes straight to the point when his actions got several of his friends in danger and [[spoiler:the death of Shirley broke him up which caused him to go on a DisproportionateRetribution RoaringRampageOfRevenge on the Britannian research facility that experimented on the Geass users and attempt to get Rolo killed for murdering Shirley]].
23rd Nov '16 2:49:58 PM CybranGeneralSturm
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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'':
** Lelouch despises his home country after his father failed to explain his mother's assassination and sent him and Nunually to Japan which he invaded later on. But when he received the power of Geass, he wanted to make a peaceful world for his sister despite his morally questionable methods. Then, it goes straight to the point when his actions got several of his friends in danger and [[spoiler:the death of Shirley broke him up which caused him to go on a DisappriopriateRetribution on the Britannian research facility on that experimented on the Geass users and attempt to get Rolo killed for murdering Shirley]].
** Suzaku Kururugi changed when Euphemia died in the hands of Zero. When he found out that Zero is his best friend Lelouch, he felt betrayed and had him captured and delivered to the Emperor where he earned a promotion as a Knight of Rounds and had his best friend's memories of his mother, his sister and his Zero identity erased.
** Cornelia li Britannia hated the Japanese because she believed that her half-siblings, Lelouch and Nunually, were reportedly dead. Then, her sister, Euphemia, was killed by Zero, who turned out to be her supposedly dead half-brother, much to her despair

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* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'':
''Franchise/CodeGeass'':
** Lelouch despises his home country after his father failed to explain his mother's assassination and sent him and Nunually to Japan which he invaded later on. But when he received the power of Geass, he wanted to make a peaceful world for his sister despite his morally questionable methods. Then, it goes straight to the point when his actions got several of his friends in danger and [[spoiler:the death of Shirley broke him up which caused him to go on a DisappriopriateRetribution DisproportionateRetribution RoaringRampageOfRevenge on the Britannian research facility on that experimented on the Geass users and attempt to get Rolo killed for murdering Shirley]].
** Suzaku Kururugi changed when Euphemia died in the hands of Zero. When he found out that Zero is his best friend Lelouch, he felt betrayed and had him captured and delivered to the Emperor where he earned a promotion as a Knight of Rounds and had his best friend's memories of his mother, his sister and his Zero identity temporarily erased.
** Cornelia li Britannia hated the Japanese because she believed that her half-siblings, Lelouch and Nunually, were reportedly dead. Then, her sister, Euphemia, was killed by Zero, who turned out to be her supposedly dead half-brother, much to her despairdespair.
12th Nov '16 10:13:23 AM BatmanKalEl
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The Cynicism Catalyst is a traumatic, disillusioning event that [[MoralityAdjustment drives many heroes to more morally dubious methods]] or [[FaceHeelTurn outright antivillainy]]. Before, they were more idealistic, but after this event [[TookALevelInCynism they became more cynical]] and felt that the current way things are done just weren't enough. Frequently, this means either picking up less traditionally heroic methods or deciding the established way of doing things is simply not good enough. [[NeverBeHurtAgain It won't happen again]].

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The Cynicism Catalyst is a traumatic, disillusioning event that [[MoralityAdjustment drives many heroes to more morally dubious methods]] or [[FaceHeelTurn outright antivillainy]]. Before, they were more idealistic, but after this event [[TookALevelInCynism [[TookALevelInCynic they became more cynical]] and felt that the current way things are done just weren't enough. Frequently, this means either picking up less traditionally heroic methods or deciding the established way of doing things is simply not good enough. [[NeverBeHurtAgain It won't happen again]].
12th Nov '16 10:12:28 AM BatmanKalEl
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The Cynicism Catalyst is a traumatic, disillusioning event that [[MoralityAdjustment drives many heroes to more morally dubious methods]] or [[FaceHeelTurn outright antivillainy]]. Before, they were more idealistic, but after this event they became more cynical and felt that the current way things are done just weren't enough. Frequently, this means either picking up less traditionally heroic methods or deciding the established way of doing things is simply not good enough. [[NeverBeHurtAgain It won't happen again]].

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The Cynicism Catalyst is a traumatic, disillusioning event that [[MoralityAdjustment drives many heroes to more morally dubious methods]] or [[FaceHeelTurn outright antivillainy]]. Before, they were more idealistic, but after this event [[TookALevelInCynism they became more cynical cynical]] and felt that the current way things are done just weren't enough. Frequently, this means either picking up less traditionally heroic methods or deciding the established way of doing things is simply not good enough. [[NeverBeHurtAgain It won't happen again]].
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