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21st Jun '16 11:49:15 AM Morgenthaler
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** Macek was also responsible for the dub of ''Anime/MeikyuuMonogatari'''s "The Running Man", as shown on [=MTV's=] ''LiquidTelevision''. This one was considered one of his best efforts and is largely an aversion of this trope.

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** Macek was also responsible for the dub of ''Anime/MeikyuuMonogatari'''s "The Running Man", as shown on [=MTV's=] ''LiquidTelevision''.''WesternAnimation/LiquidTelevision''. This one was considered one of his best efforts and is largely an aversion of this trope.
21st Jun '16 8:38:09 AM EternityofSpirits
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* The localization of ''VideoGame/BravelySecond'' heavily rewrote the latter half so to make it so the player didn't have to go through multiple playthroughs to get the GoldenEnding. The results were [[BrokenBase controversial]] to say the least, though it's worth noting that many of the changes were in response to complaints from Japanese critics.
21st Jun '16 1:07:30 AM ADrago
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** Their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', by contrast, changed as much as it could. Given that it's a LongRunner with an intricate story, they only succeeded in creating [[DubInducedPlotHole a morass of plot holes]], removing whole episodes, and even whole ''story arcs''. It also went big into NeverSayDie and FrothyMugsOfWater (but failed to fix a sequence where Luffy tries to cheat at a DrinkingContest), and it went nuts [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms removing all traces of weaponry]], once digitally changing a rifle into a shovel (only for a mob wielding shovels to be edited into bizarre neon blobs later). The original's 144 episodes were cut down to ''104''. Creator/ToeiAnimation was infuriated, and ''One Piece'' -- the most popular shounen franchise in Japan since ''Manga/DragonBall'' -- became a dud in the West. This failure was the beginning of the end for the compony, who would spend several years trying to hold onto what little they had before officially closing down in 2010 after losing the rights to ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' over accusations of tax evasion. ...Or so people thought, until it was revealed they were structured as 4K media and had actually RETAINED the rights due to legal tactics in said lawsuit, and proceeded to make even worse dubs.

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** Their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', by contrast, changed as much as it could. Given that it's a LongRunner with an intricate story, they only succeeded in creating [[DubInducedPlotHole a morass of plot holes]], removing whole episodes, and even whole ''story arcs''. It also went big into NeverSayDie and FrothyMugsOfWater (but failed to fix a sequence where Luffy tries to cheat at a DrinkingContest), and it went nuts [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms removing all traces of weaponry]], once digitally changing a rifle into a shovel (only for a mob wielding shovels to be edited into bizarre neon blobs later). The original's 144 episodes were cut down to ''104''. Creator/ToeiAnimation was infuriated, and ''One Piece'' -- the most popular shounen franchise in Japan since ''Manga/DragonBall'' -- became a dud in the West. This failure was the beginning of the end for the compony, company, who would spend several years trying to hold onto what little they had before officially closing down in 2010 after losing the rights to ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' over accusations of tax evasion. ...Or so people thought, until it was revealed they were structured as 4K media and had actually RETAINED the rights due to legal tactics in said lawsuit, and proceeded to make even worse dubs.
19th Jun '16 9:13:55 AM KaworuS
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* Creator/FourKidsEntertainment is well-known for localizing shows like this, especially in their early years. Their then-CEO is [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/humor/the_wisdom_of_alfred_kahn.html quoted]] in Animation World Network saying, [[http://www.awn.com/articles/2003-tv-wrap-what-s-store-2004/page/3%2C1 "By the time we localize the programs, kids don't even know they're from Japan anymore."]] Their reputation was rather poor, to say the least, and other companies learned from their mistakes and would produce anime with minimal edits (such as Creator/VizMedia, who did this with ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and found a CashCowFranchise).

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* Creator/FourKidsEntertainment , Later 4KMedia after they were sued for Fraud By TV Tokyo and reorganized-post-Bankruptcy declaration, is well-known for localizing shows like this, especially in their early years. Their then-CEO is [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/humor/the_wisdom_of_alfred_kahn.html quoted]] in Animation World Network saying, [[http://www.awn.com/articles/2003-tv-wrap-what-s-store-2004/page/3%2C1 "By the time we localize the programs, kids don't even know they're from Japan anymore."]] Their reputation was rather poor, to say the least, and other companies learned from their mistakes and would produce anime with minimal edits (such as Creator/VizMedia, who did this with ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and found a CashCowFranchise).



** 4Kids is known for dubbing ''Anime/YuGiOh'', changing character names and enforcing a strict NeverSayDie mentality. It also changed the entire premise of the second and third series, boiling down a number of complex self-discovery CharacterDevelopment arcs into a fight against a villain trying to TakeOverTheWorld. It's a ready source of mockery among fans, and ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'' never misses an opportunity to highlight the dub's absurdity.

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** 4Kids is known for dubbing ''Anime/YuGiOh'', changing character names and enforcing a strict NeverSayDie mentality. It also changed the entire premise of the second and third series, boiling down a number of complex self-discovery CharacterDevelopment arcs into a fight against a villain trying to TakeOverTheWorld. 4Kmedia, 4Kids successor after they retained the rights to the series post-lawsuit (Their lawyers convinced the Judge to block any other Dubbing productions in International territories during it, long story), would prove themselves capable of bastardizing the series even worse than before, simply to just spite the fans. It's a ready source of mockery among fans, and ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'' never misses an opportunity to highlight the dub's absurdity.



** Their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', by contrast, changed as much as it could. Given that it's a LongRunner with an intricate story, they only succeeded in creating [[DubInducedPlotHole a morass of plot holes]], removing whole episodes, and even whole ''story arcs''. It also went big into NeverSayDie and FrothyMugsOfWater (but failed to fix a sequence where Luffy tries to cheat at a DrinkingContest), and it went nuts [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms removing all traces of weaponry]], once digitally changing a rifle into a shovel (only for a mob wielding shovels to be edited into bizarre neon blobs later). The original's 144 episodes were cut down to ''104''. Creator/ToeiAnimation was infuriated, and ''One Piece'' -- the most popular shounen franchise in Japan since ''Manga/DragonBall'' -- became a dud in the West. This failure was the beginning of the end for the compony, who would spend several years trying to hold onto what little they had before officially closing down in 2010 after losing the rights to ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' over accusations of tax evasion.

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** Their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', by contrast, changed as much as it could. Given that it's a LongRunner with an intricate story, they only succeeded in creating [[DubInducedPlotHole a morass of plot holes]], removing whole episodes, and even whole ''story arcs''. It also went big into NeverSayDie and FrothyMugsOfWater (but failed to fix a sequence where Luffy tries to cheat at a DrinkingContest), and it went nuts [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms removing all traces of weaponry]], once digitally changing a rifle into a shovel (only for a mob wielding shovels to be edited into bizarre neon blobs later). The original's 144 episodes were cut down to ''104''. Creator/ToeiAnimation was infuriated, and ''One Piece'' -- the most popular shounen franchise in Japan since ''Manga/DragonBall'' -- became a dud in the West. This failure was the beginning of the end for the compony, who would spend several years trying to hold onto what little they had before officially closing down in 2010 after losing the rights to ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' over accusations of tax evasion. ...Or so people thought, until it was revealed they were structured as 4K media and had actually RETAINED the rights due to legal tactics in said lawsuit, and proceeded to make even worse dubs.
8th Jun '16 4:04:29 AM Ulkomaalainen
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* Germany is infamous for its game edits. [[NoSwastikas Nazi symbolism is verboten]], so games like ''VideoGame/{{Bloodrayne}}'' (set in Nazi Germany) get set in {{Ruritania}}s with [[BlandNameProduct we-swear-they're-not-swastikas]] everywhere.

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* Germany is infamous for its game edits. [[NoSwastikas Nazi symbolism is verboten]], verboten in games]], so games like ''VideoGame/{{Bloodrayne}}'' (set in Nazi Germany) get set in {{Ruritania}}s with [[BlandNameProduct we-swear-they're-not-swastikas]] everywhere.
8th Jun '16 3:55:48 AM Ulkomaalainen
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** And that was just the worst example. The whole series was suffering severely from massive cuts, a severe case of GagDub and a massive case of censorship though the dub, sometimes even destroying the structure of the episode. When the DVD got produced, Paramount had to spend lots of money to restore the series and correct the worst of this madness.

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** And that was just the worst example. The whole series was suffering severely from massive cuts, a severe case of GagDub and a massive case of censorship though through the dub, sometimes even destroying the structure of the episode. When the DVD got produced, Paramount had to spend lots of money to restore the series and correct the worst of this madness.
7th Jun '16 12:04:04 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Macek also took ''Anime/MegaZone23'', edited in some ''Robotech'' footage, wrote in his own script, and called the result ''Robotech: The Movie''. The script needed drastic alterations too, because the ''Macross'' creators didn't want any similarities to their own film, ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Do You Remember Love]]''. The movie was received much worse than ''Robotech'' itself; his distributor couldn't get it into theaters because it was still too violent for children (possibly as a result of the action coming from poorly shoehorned ''Southern Cross'' footage).

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** Macek also took ''Anime/MegaZone23'', ''Anime/Megazone23'', edited in some ''Robotech'' footage, wrote in his own script, and called the result ''Robotech: The Movie''. The script needed drastic alterations too, because the ''Macross'' ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' creators didn't want any similarities to their own film, ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Do You Remember Love]]''.''Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove''. The movie was received much worse than ''Robotech'' itself; his distributor couldn't get it into theaters because it was still too violent for children (possibly as a result of the action coming from poorly shoehorned ''Southern Cross'' footage).
6th Jun '16 5:10:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* This sort of thing happened even before animation itself: In the 19th century, the works of Creator/JulesVerne got altered drastically when translated into English, generally by utterly incompetent people who made basic mistakes and replaced all of the greatly-detailed (albeit [[ScienceMarchesOn outdated]]) science with ''even worse'' scientific and mathematical errors, and often cut out entire chapters. The most [[TVTropesWikiDrinkingGame egregious]] example is quite possibly an early translation of ''JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth'', which is [[BileFascination affectionately]] known as the "Hardwigg version" among [[OverlyNarrowSuperlative people who care]], after the [[DubNameChange Translation Name Change]] of TheProfessor. It changed the writing style of the novel ''completely.''

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* This sort of thing happened even before animation itself: In the 19th century, the works of Creator/JulesVerne got altered drastically when translated into English, generally by utterly incompetent people who made basic mistakes and replaced all of the greatly-detailed (albeit [[ScienceMarchesOn outdated]]) science with ''even worse'' scientific and mathematical errors, and often cut out entire chapters. The most [[TVTropesWikiDrinkingGame egregious]] example is quite possibly an early translation of ''JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth'', ''Literature/JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth'', which is [[BileFascination affectionately]] known as the "Hardwigg version" among [[OverlyNarrowSuperlative people who care]], after the [[DubNameChange Translation Name Change]] of TheProfessor. It changed the writing style of the novel ''completely.''
4th Jun '16 7:41:32 PM gewunomox
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* TheClash's first album from 1977 was released in the US in 1979. This happened after their second, ''Give Em Enough Rope'' had been released in the US in 1978, which was the first album of theirs to be released there. Probably as a result, their newer singles from 1979 were included on the new version of their first album, replacing some songs that were deemed controversial by the record company at the time. Although a lot of people like this version of the album, the Clash's change in production techniques makes the inclusion of a later track like "I Fought The Law" pretty noticeable.

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* TheClash's Music/TheClash's first album from 1977 was released in the US in 1979. This happened after their second, ''Give Em Enough Rope'' had been released in the US in 1978, which was the first album of theirs to be released there. Probably as a result, their newer singles from 1979 were included on the new version of their first album, replacing some songs that were deemed controversial by the record company at the time. Although a lot of people like this version of the album, the Clash's change in production techniques makes the inclusion of a later track like "I Fought The Law" pretty noticeable.
3rd Jun '16 9:30:17 PM EternityofSpirits
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** Their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', by contrast, changed as much as it could. Given that it's a LongRunner with an intricate story, they only succeeded in creating [[DubInducedPlotHole a morass of plot holes]], removing whole episodes, and even whole ''story arcs''. It also went big into NeverSayDie and FrothyMugsOfWater (but failed to fix a sequence where Luffy tries to cheat at a DrinkingContest), and it went nuts [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms removing all traces of weaponry]], once digitally changing a rifle into a shovel (only for a mob wielding shovels to be edited into bizarre neon blobs later). The original's 144 episodes were cut down to ''104''. Creator/ToeiAnimation was infuriated, and ''One Piece'' -- the most popular shounen franchise in Japan since ''Manga/DragonBall'' -- became a dud in the West. This failure was the final nail in the coffin for 4Kids, who basically pulled out of anime entirely after that.

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** Their dub of ''Manga/OnePiece'', by contrast, changed as much as it could. Given that it's a LongRunner with an intricate story, they only succeeded in creating [[DubInducedPlotHole a morass of plot holes]], removing whole episodes, and even whole ''story arcs''. It also went big into NeverSayDie and FrothyMugsOfWater (but failed to fix a sequence where Luffy tries to cheat at a DrinkingContest), and it went nuts [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms removing all traces of weaponry]], once digitally changing a rifle into a shovel (only for a mob wielding shovels to be edited into bizarre neon blobs later). The original's 144 episodes were cut down to ''104''. Creator/ToeiAnimation was infuriated, and ''One Piece'' -- the most popular shounen franchise in Japan since ''Manga/DragonBall'' -- became a dud in the West. This failure was the final nail in beginning of the coffin end for 4Kids, the compony, who basically pulled out of anime entirely would spend several years trying to hold onto what little they had before officially closing down in 2010 after that.losing the rights to ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' over accusations of tax evasion.
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