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16th Jan '18 3:32:52 PM DesertDragon
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* ''Series/LukeCage2016'': If a real-life club could pull the headliners that Cottonmouth is able to host at Harlem's Paradise, the owner would be a multi-millionaire. But Cottonmouth doesn't seem to notice or care that he has one of the best nightclubs in all of New York City. Mariah even points out that his legitimate business interests are successful enough on their own that he doesn't need to run drugs or guns in order to be one of the most powerful men in Harlem.
* ''Series/IronFist2017'': Madame Gao develops a synthetic form of heroin that works by skin patch and prevents the user from building a tolerance, making each hit as strong as the first. Had she marketed her innovation to the medical industry for its usefulness in pain management[[note]]one of the biggest downsides to painkillers is that the user can build a tolerance over time, requiring more pills to achieve the same effect[[/note]] and palliative care, she could have made millions legally ''and'' had an easier time selling it on the streets if she so desired. And since it's not injected, it would prevent the spread of disease from sharing needles, including HIV and hepatitis. In short, Gao could have cornered the medical ''and'' recreational opium markets had she set her sights higher than local druglords.

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* ''Series/LukeCage2016'': If a real-life club nightclub could pull the headliners and crowds that Cottonmouth is able to host at Harlem's Paradise, the owner would be a multi-millionaire. But Cottonmouth doesn't seem to notice or care that he has one of the best nightclubs clubs in all of New York City. Mariah even points out that his legitimate business interests are successful enough on their own that he doesn't need to run drugs or guns in order to be one of the most powerful men in Harlem.
* ''Series/IronFist2017'': Madame Gao develops a synthetic form of heroin that works by skin patch and prevents the user from building a tolerance, making each hit as strong as the first. Had she marketed her innovation to the medical industry for its usefulness in pain management[[note]]one of the biggest downsides to most painkillers is that the user can build a tolerance over time, requiring more pills to achieve the same effect[[/note]] and palliative care, effect[[/note]], she could have made millions legally ''and'' had an easier time selling it on the streets if she so desired. And since it's not injected, it would prevent the spread of disease from sharing needles, including HIV and hepatitis. In short, Gao could have cornered the medical ''and'' recreational opium markets had she set her sights higher than local druglords.
12th Jan '18 10:03:42 AM Linda58
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** In another story, a police detective who is forced to team up with Captain Cold calls him out for his criminal tendencies, pointing out how a man who invented a device that could manipulate matter on a molecular level (his "Cold Gun") would have had no problem getting rich legitimately. The Captain responds by pointing out the detective's preference for expensive suits despite their impracticality in his line of work. "We all have our vices."

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** In another story, a police detective who is forced to team up with Captain Cold calls him out for his criminal tendencies, pointing out how a man who invented a device that could manipulate matter on a molecular level (his "Cold Gun") would have had no problem getting rich legitimately. The Captain responds by pointing out the detective's preference for expensive suits despite their impracticality in his line of work. "We all have our vices."" He's also admitted that many of the Rogue's villainous tendencies boil down to bad habits.
8th Jan '18 2:58:30 PM MBG159
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* In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', the Great Khans have members that were taught chemistry and decided to use it [[DrugsAreBad to manufacture drugs.]] A Courier can point out to them that the same knowledge could also be used to make medicine, and in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, the latter is likely to be more profitable - something they'll quickly agree with.
3rd Jan '18 11:34:59 AM DoctorDetective
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* In ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' for ''Film/TheHungerGames'' the scientist points out with all the technology they have they could have solved the food crisis instead of making kids fight to the death. It can be justified, however, as one of the methods [[TheEmpire the Capitol]] uses to keep the population from being able to rebel. [[FridgeBrilliance A thing they might not have wanted to do so badly if they had enough food.]]

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* In ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' for ''Film/TheHungerGames'' the scientist points out with all the technology they have they could have solved the food crisis instead of making kids fight to the death. It can be justified, however, as one of the methods [[TheEmpire the Capitol]] uses to keep the population from being able to rebel. [[FridgeBrilliance [[VoodooShark A thing they might not have wanted to do so badly if they had enough food.]]
25th Dec '17 7:16:57 AM Shadowgazer
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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': As noted by Judy, Nick's skills at hustling, his street smarts and overall knowledge of Zootopia would make him a great cop. [[spoiler:By the end of the movie, Judy convinces him to challenge society's expectations and become Zootopia's first fox police officer.]]
21st Dec '17 4:21:56 AM Hanz
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* In the Vault-Tec Workshop DLC of ''Videogame/Fallout4, [[EvilInc Vault-Tec]] had an employee named Ted Reilly who was reviled among his co-workers since rather than making horrible social experiments that make people's lives a living hell, his machines fulfill their intended purpose and would have been highly profitable (such as an automated eye exam or a soda machine that makes soda better than Nuka Cola).

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* In the Vault-Tec Workshop DLC of ''Videogame/Fallout4, ''Videogame/Fallout4'', [[EvilInc Vault-Tec]] had an employee named Ted Reilly Reily who was reviled among his co-workers since rather than making horrible social experiments that make people's lives a living hell, his machines fulfill their intended purpose and would have been highly profitable as commercial products (such as an automated eye exam or a soda machine that makes soda better than Nuka Cola). high-quality beverages). Using his devices for "experiments" improves the quality of life for your vault dwellers, but also pisses off [[MadScientist Barstow]], your Overseer.
5th Dec '17 1:34:04 PM VelvetPierrot
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* Inverted in ''Manga/OnePiece'', when minor villain Wapol actually starts a new life and builds a massive toy-making empire by using his powers to recycle objects into toys. In fact, the alloy his power creates (dubbed "Wapometal") is apparently a unique and amazing compound, which makes him even richer when a scientist discovers its properties and Wapol begins capitalizing on that. Later in the series, Franky starts building tanks using the revolutionary metal.

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* Inverted in ''Manga/OnePiece'', when minor villain Wapol actually starts a new life and builds a massive toy-making empire by using his powers to recycle objects into toys. In fact, the alloy his power creates (dubbed "Wapometal") is apparently a unique and amazing compound, which makes him even richer when a scientist discovers its properties and Wapol begins capitalizing on that. Heck, thanks to this discovery, he even gets his own kingdom (Named the Evil Black Drum Kingdom) and marries a supermodel! Ironically back to being an evil King, but this time kinda better. Later in the series, Franky starts building tanks using the revolutionary metal.
4th Dec '17 4:52:40 PM Ymirsdaughter
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* In ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' for ''Film/TheHungerGames'' the scientist points out with all the technology they have they could have solved the food crisis instead of making kids fight to the death. It can be justified, however, as one of the methods [[TheEmpire the Capitol]] uses to keep the population from being able to rebel.

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* In ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' for ''Film/TheHungerGames'' the scientist points out with all the technology they have they could have solved the food crisis instead of making kids fight to the death. It can be justified, however, as one of the methods [[TheEmpire the Capitol]] uses to keep the population from being able to rebel. [[FridgeBrilliance A thing they might not have wanted to do so badly if they had enough food.]]
4th Dec '17 7:38:24 AM LentilSandEater
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* Subverted in ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' canon; the 14th [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Dead Apostle Ancestor]], Van-Fem, rather than drinking blood and harming humans, took a preference to human society/life and built a highly-profitable casino boat in Monte Carlo shortly after UsefulNotes/WorldWarI which earned him a high social status among humans. This also has the benefit of making it difficult for the ChurchMilitant to try to kill him, since the Church would be in a lot of trouble if they were found to be behind an assassination attempt of such a prominent societal figure.

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* Subverted Defied in ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' canon; the 14th [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Dead Apostle Ancestor]], Van-Fem, rather than drinking blood and harming humans, took a preference to human society/life and built a highly-profitable casino boat in Monte Carlo shortly after UsefulNotes/WorldWarI which earned him a high social status among humans. This also has the benefit of making it difficult for the ChurchMilitant to try to kill him, since the Church would be in a lot of trouble if they were found to be behind an assassination attempt of such a prominent societal figure.



* The villain of ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' almost averted this, having created and sold an extremely popular total-immersion virtual reality game, presumably making truckloads of money off it. But then he decided to [[TheMostDangerousVideoGame remove the logout button and fry the brains of anyone who dies in the game]]. [[spoiler:He also enters the game himself, and eventually disables his GodMode, allowing Kirito to kill him... making him a meta-version of a TacticalSuicideBoss.]] Why? We never really find out--it seems to have been mainly because [[RuleOfCool he thought it would be cool]].
** It was stated that he wanted to be the villainous god common in [=JRPGs=], wasn't it? He even planned to be the FinalBoss.
* Subverted with ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'', the head of the House of Evolution, after his defeat and the eradication of his forces by Saitama and Genos, is shown to have used his impressive cloning technology to set up a Takoyaki stand selling octopus balls.

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* The villain of ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' almost averted this, having created and sold an extremely popular total-immersion virtual reality game, presumably making truckloads of money off it. But then he decided to [[TheMostDangerousVideoGame remove the logout button and fry the brains of anyone who dies in the game]]. [[spoiler:He also enters the game himself, and eventually disables his GodMode, allowing Kirito to kill him... making him a meta-version of a TacticalSuicideBoss.]] Why? We never really find out--it seems to have been mainly because [[RuleOfCool he thought it would be cool]].
** It was stated that he
He wanted to be the villainous god common in [=JRPGs=], wasn't it? He he even planned to be the FinalBoss.
* Subverted Invoked with ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'', the head of the House of Evolution, after his defeat and the eradication of his forces by Saitama and Genos, is shown to have used his impressive cloning technology to set up a Takoyaki stand selling octopus balls.



** Creator/ElliotSMaggin beautifully subverts this trope in his [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Pre-Crisis]] novel ''Literature/LastSonOfKrypton, '' which asserts that Lex regularly maintains multiple false identities as prominent scientists, businessmen, and even artists; and that they are [[WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys how he is always able to raise the money necessary for the equipment and hired minions]] his world-conquering and Superman-busting schemes require. In other words, Lex is perfectly capable of playing the legitimate marketplace like a fiddle and ''regularly does so as a matter of course,'' but because he views himself as an {{ubermensch}}, he considers the idea of just playing by society's rules and getting rich and famous to be ''beneath him.'' He only views the money thus earned as a means to an end -- that end being conquest of the world and the destruction of Superman, two things polite society frowns upon.
*** While Lex's side enterprises were never referenced in the comics themselves, Maggin's second novel, ''Literature/MiracleMonday,'' was definitely considered canon for introducing the character Kristen Wells, who went on to become Superwoman in the comics. So the above may or may not be official.
*** Also, although no one remembers it (a fact Maggin has lamented), the name "[=LexCorp=]" actually [[OlderThanTheyThink originated]] in Maggin's story "The Ghost Of Superman Future," a FlashForward that depicted Luthor [[HeelFaceTurn going straight]] in his old age and marketing his inventions, as well as becoming friends with Superman again [[WeUsedToBeFriends as they had been in their]] [[Comicbook/{{Superboy}} youth.]]

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** Creator/ElliotSMaggin beautifully subverts this trope in his [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks Pre-Crisis]] novel ''Literature/LastSonOfKrypton, '' which asserts that Lex regularly maintains multiple false identities as prominent scientists, businessmen, and even artists; and that they are [[WhereDoesHeGetAllThoseWonderfulToys how he is always able to raise the money necessary for the equipment and hired minions]] his world-conquering and Superman-busting schemes require. In other words, Lex is perfectly capable of playing the legitimate marketplace like a fiddle and ''regularly does so as a matter of course,'' but because he views himself as an {{ubermensch}}, he considers the idea of just playing by society's rules and getting rich and famous to be ''beneath him.'' He only views the money thus earned as a means to an end -- that end being conquest of the world and the destruction of Superman, two things polite society frowns upon.
*** While Lex's side enterprises were never referenced in the comics themselves, Maggin's second novel, ''Literature/MiracleMonday,'' was definitely considered canon for introducing the character Kristen Wells, who went on to become Superwoman in the comics. So the above may or may not be official.
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upon. Also, although no one remembers it (a fact Maggin has lamented), the name "[=LexCorp=]" actually [[OlderThanTheyThink originated]] in Maggin's story "The Ghost Of Superman Future," a FlashForward that depicted Luthor [[HeelFaceTurn going straight]] in his old age and marketing his inventions, as well as becoming friends with Superman again [[WeUsedToBeFriends as they had been in their]] [[Comicbook/{{Superboy}} youth.]]



** Doom could have probably taken over the world ''financially'' in far less time, with less effort and without any legal opposition if he just incorporated rather than maintaining his feudal {{Ruritania}} and venting his ComplexityAddiction. Especially since people in the ''Franchise/MarvelUniverse'' are constantly shown to value security over freedom. This is mirrored by his heroic counterpart, {{Trope Namer|s}} [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Reed Richards]], who seemingly makes more money patenting and then ''not'' selling his inventions, and thus not overly-disrupting the similarities between Marvel Earth and RealLife.
** "Doomwar" reveals that he actually ''does'' use his technology to make money, albeit secretly. Ever wonder how he's able to fund his various schemes or afford to construct all that incredible technology (including his never-ending army of [[ActuallyADoombot Doombots]])? Turns out he's involved in ''thousands'' of perfectly legal businesses, and has made a killing in patents for robotics and medical research.

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** Doom could have probably taken over the world ''financially'' in far less time, with less effort and without any legal opposition if he just incorporated rather than maintaining his feudal {{Ruritania}} and venting his ComplexityAddiction. Especially since people in the ''Franchise/MarvelUniverse'' are constantly shown to value security over freedom. This is mirrored by his heroic counterpart, {{Trope Namer|s}} [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Reed Richards]], who seemingly makes more money patenting and then ''not'' selling his inventions, and thus not overly-disrupting the similarities between Marvel Earth and RealLife.
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RealLife. "Doomwar" reveals that he actually ''does'' use his technology to make money, albeit secretly. Ever wonder how he's able to fund his various schemes or afford to construct all that incredible technology (including his never-ending army of [[ActuallyADoombot Doombots]])? Turns out he's involved in ''thousands'' of perfectly legal businesses, and has made a killing in patents for robotics and medical research.
4th Dec '17 7:33:56 AM LentilSandEater
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** Humorously, in the fanfiction Fanfic/AshesOfThePast, after their first encounter, and a few false starts, they DO start finding other things to do other than chase Pikachu... and are some of the most competent members of Team Rocket going, to the point where, instead of Giovanni lamenting their presence, they do lessons for the Team Rocket grunts on how to avoid looking like a bunch of idiots, and they are rewarded with an even rarer variant of Pikachu than Ash's and things like honestly capturing Moltres!

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** %%** Humorously, in the fanfiction Fanfic/AshesOfThePast, after their first encounter, and a few false starts, they DO start finding other things to do other than chase Pikachu... and are some of the most competent members of Team Rocket going, to the point where, instead of Giovanni lamenting their presence, they do lessons for the Team Rocket grunts on how to avoid looking like a bunch of idiots, and they are rewarded with an even rarer variant of Pikachu than Ash's and things like honestly capturing Moltres!
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