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16th Aug '17 10:29:02 PM Qube
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** Earlier in the game it was even worse, where you are told by your phony rapper old friend OG Loc to stole "Madd Dogg's rhyme book, from his home in the hills!". Except it isn't just stealing the rhyme book, but also throat-slashing (this mission is intended as tutorial for the stealth mechanics including stealth kills) half dozen innocent mansion security of a (later revealed to be) decent NonActionGuy rapper. This, and the next mission, which laced with BlackComedy where you need to dunk his manager (it helps though that the manager being AssholeVictim with ties to gangs and drug dealers), drove Madd Dogg (said decent rapper) to [[DrivenToSuicide deep end]], making [[HeelRealization you]] [[HeelFaceTurn have to]] [[InterruptedSuicide save him]] near the end.

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** Earlier in the game it was even worse, where game, you are told tasked by your phony rapper old wannabe-gangsta friend OG Loc to stole "Madd Dogg's steal a rhyme book, book from his home in the hills!". a successful rapper, Madd Dogg. Except it isn't just ''just'' stealing the rhyme book, but also throat-slashing (this (since this mission is intended doubles as tutorial for the stealth mechanics including stealth kills) half dozen innocent mansion security of a (later revealed to be) decent NonActionGuy rapper. This, tutorial) but also killing several guards and the next mission, which laced with BlackComedy where you need to dunk his eventually Madd Dogg's manager (it helps though that the manager being AssholeVictim with ties to gangs and drug dealers), drove (and childhood friend). These losses ruin Madd Dogg (said decent rapper) Dogg's career [[spoiler: and drive him to drugs and eventually [[DrivenToSuicide deep end]], making [[HeelRealization you]] [[HeelFaceTurn have to]] [[InterruptedSuicide suicide]]]]. The man himself, despite being a gansta rapper, is a fairly decent human being who did ''nothing'' to deserve any of this save him]] near become the end.target of an envious wannabe who couldn't make it on his own. However, this leads to VideoGameCaringPotential as later in the game you can [[spoiler: stop the man from ending his life, become his new manager, and help undo the damage you caused and rebuild his career]].
4th Aug '17 12:54:39 PM MagBas
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** In ''Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire'', you get a Lopunnite via a landlord in Mauville Hills who is implied to have forcefully taken it away from a guy behind on his rent. Feeling sorry for the the guy that it got taken from and want to give it back to him or otherwise help him? Sucks to be you! You can't enter his apartment at any point in the game.
4th Aug '17 12:46:37 PM MagBas
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* In ''VideoGame/IllusionOfGaia'', do you want all 50 [[SideQuest Red Crystals]]? I hope you don't mind [[KickTheDog betraying an escaped slave to his pursuers]] in exchange for one of them.
** At the very least, the BonusBoss you face after collecting all 50 Red Crystals admits that he was the one who started the slave-trade in the first place, which makes killing him that much more satisfying and helps balance the karma scales a little.
4th Aug '17 12:41:22 PM MagBas
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** Later on, there's the whole "clan wars" series of sidequests, which involves triggering a gang war between two clans and spending a few missions taking jobs from both of them. Said jobs involve doing things like trailing one clan leader's son and gunning him down, setting fire to people's trailers while they're still inside, and then crashing the funeral of the guy you killed and killing everyone. Sure, both clans are {{Asshole Victim}}s and Borderlands being Borderlands, the entire thing is played as ComedicSociopathy, but it's still a bit surreal to be rewarded for stuff like bringing a shotgun to a funeral.
** One sidequest in the ''Mad Moxxi and the Wedding Day Massacre'' headhunter pack requires you to kill Ed and Stella, a couple of friendly robots who helped you out earlier in the DLC's story. There is no way to complete the mission without killing them. When you confront them, Ed tries to talk you out of it by pointing out that [[BreakingTheFourthWall it's just a side mission, so you don't have to do it]]. You could just leave it in your mission log for the rest of the game. That wouldn't be so bad, right? [[YouBastard You're aren't going to kill two innocent robots just for 100% completion, are you]]?
18th Jul '17 1:14:01 PM Averagemoe
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* Videogame/DeadlyRoomsOfDeath: The first game ends with you backing the 'Neather into a corner, where he begs for his life. No matter how much mercy you show, he will always [[UngratefulBastard spring a trap on you]] when you try to leave. The only way to get out with your life is to kill him.
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16th Jul '17 3:42:18 PM Twiddler
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* In ''[[ChoiceOfGames Choice of Romance]]'', you can only unlock the next chapter by getting involved with the very married king, right under his wife's nose. You either stay on as the other woman [[GenderFlip or man]], or steal him (and the crown) for yourself by having the queen either killed or discredited. [[spoiler:Choosing to just discredit her still ends up getting her killed.]]

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* In ''[[ChoiceOfGames ''[[Creator/ChoiceOfGames Choice of Romance]]'', you can only unlock the next chapter by getting involved with the very married king, right under his wife's nose. You either stay on as the other woman [[GenderFlip or man]], or steal him (and the crown) for yourself by having the queen either killed or discredited. [[spoiler:Choosing to just discredit her still ends up getting her killed.]]
7th Jun '17 6:50:57 AM Piterpicher
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* In the VideoGame/RPGMaker game {{OFF}}, by Mortis Ghost, the player is more or less tricked (or forced to progress the story) to kill each one of the leaders of the zones he enters, including [[spoiler:The Batter killing his "wife", the Queen, and Hugo, a helpless infant and the one who created both he and The Queen in the hopes of creating a bright future]].

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* In the VideoGame/RPGMaker game {{OFF}}, VideoGame/{{OFF}}, by Mortis Ghost, the player is more or less tricked (or forced to progress the story) to kill each one of the leaders of the zones he enters, including [[spoiler:The Batter killing his "wife", the Queen, and Hugo, a helpless infant and the one who created both he and The Queen in the hopes of creating a bright future]].
13th May '17 12:02:51 PM nombretomado
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* Ahh, the infamous ''LimboOfTheLost''. Although at the very beginning of the game your character refuses to open a coffin, not wanting to desecrate the dead, he then goes on to steal a man's arm, remove copious amounts of bone from rotting corpses and skeletons, put a bear trap onto the eyes of one of the only sympathetic [=NPCs=] and hang a sleeping man so that you can access a control panel that he's lying on. And we're not even halfway through the game yet!

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* Ahh, the infamous ''LimboOfTheLost''.''VideoGame/LimboOfTheLost''. Although at the very beginning of the game your character refuses to open a coffin, not wanting to desecrate the dead, he then goes on to steal a man's arm, remove copious amounts of bone from rotting corpses and skeletons, put a bear trap onto the eyes of one of the only sympathetic [=NPCs=] and hang a sleeping man so that you can access a control panel that he's lying on. And we're not even halfway through the game yet!
9th Apr '17 1:45:57 PM nombretomado
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* About half of the Brotherhood quest chain of ''SaintsRow2'' is an escalating prank war that turns deadly about halfway through. An early mission involves stealing toxic waste for the purposes of [[spoiler:spiking the Brotherhood boss's tattoo ink with it]]. Later, you kidnap the Brotherhood boss's girlfriend, lock her in her own car's trunk, and abandon her car [[spoiler:at a monster truck rally for her boyfriend to run over. Then you ''give him the keys yourself'' while delivering an IronicEcho]]. [[PayEvilUntoEvil Yes, these people are violent jerks]], but it's still unnecessarily cruel.

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* About half of the Brotherhood quest chain of ''SaintsRow2'' ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' is an escalating prank war that turns deadly about halfway through. An early mission involves stealing toxic waste for the purposes of [[spoiler:spiking the Brotherhood boss's tattoo ink with it]]. Later, you kidnap the Brotherhood boss's girlfriend, lock her in her own car's trunk, and abandon her car [[spoiler:at a monster truck rally for her boyfriend to run over. Then you ''give him the keys yourself'' while delivering an IronicEcho]]. [[PayEvilUntoEvil Yes, these people are violent jerks]], but it's still unnecessarily cruel.



** In SaintsRowTheThird, the Boss can do this unintentionally. If someone is too close when you press the action button intending to open a door, participate in a photo op, or get into a car, you grab them as a HumanShield. Unless you're near a body of water or a short ledge, your only options at that point are to either kill them with a NeckSnap (or throat bite if you have a certain DLC), or throw them. They ''might'' live if you throw them, unless you've gotten the melee-muscles perk which can make them fly over a hundred feet.

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** In SaintsRowTheThird, ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'', the Boss can do this unintentionally. If someone is too close when you press the action button intending to open a door, participate in a photo op, or get into a car, you grab them as a HumanShield. Unless you're near a body of water or a short ledge, your only options at that point are to either kill them with a NeckSnap (or throat bite if you have a certain DLC), or throw them. They ''might'' live if you throw them, unless you've gotten the melee-muscles perk which can make them fly over a hundred feet.
7th Mar '17 1:26:50 AM PaulA
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* Infocom's ''Trinity'' required you to capture a skink (a lizard), only to kill it later on because a spell required as an ingredient "fresh whole lizard, killed in the light of a crescent moon".

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* Infocom's ''Trinity'' ''VideoGame/{{Trinity}}'' required you to capture a skink (a lizard), only to kill it later on because a spell required as an ingredient "fresh whole lizard, killed in the light of a crescent moon".moon". The game is a meditation on the history of the nuclear age, including the question of whether events like the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki can be justified as necessary sacrifices to a noble goal.
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