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18th Aug '17 3:12:02 PM Taskmaster123
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* In AmericanIdol, this was basically Simon Cowell's approach to the many applicants who simply did not have talent enough to succeed as a singer. Telling someone who doesn't have a chance in hell that they don't have a chance in hell ''is'' this trope. It's often the only dose of reality some of them have gotten after years of being told to keep trying by well-meaning friends and family.



* In AmericanIdol, this was basically Simon Cowell's approach to the many applicants who simply did not have talent enough to succeed as a singer. Telling someone who doesn't have a chance in hell that they don't have a chance in hell ''is'' this trope. It's often the only dose of reality some of them have gotten after years of being told to keep trying by well-meaning friends and family.
18th Aug '17 3:10:52 PM Taskmaster123
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* In AmericanIdol, this was basically Simon Cowell's approach to the many applicants who simply did not have talent enough to succeed as a singer. Telling someone who doesn't have a chance in hell that they don't have a chance in hell ''is'' this trope. It's often the only dose of reality some of them have gotten after years of being told to keep trying by well-meaning friends and family.
12th Aug '17 3:48:18 AM Flame
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* ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'': Treatment of evolved Bugster Virus involves hitting the patient with hammer in video game styled battle.
** [[DoctorJerk Taiga]] reasoned that telling Emu about his Bugster infection would be dangerous, so attacking him under pretense of trying to take his Gashats won't stress him because he expects Taiga to act like a jerk who wants to take his stuff. [[DullSurprise He is]] [[BatmanGambit right]].
6th Jul '17 1:07:44 PM Linda58
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* It may not have been intentional, but in ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' it's Oliver's ''vicious'' ReasonYouSuckSpeech to Laurel over her alcoholism/drug addiction and NeverMyFault mentality that ultimately get her to realize how far she's fallen and take steps to fix her life.
28th Jun '17 10:57:03 PM Prometheus117
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* In ''Series/BurnNotice'', Michael state that you have to be cruel to be kind when in hostage negotiations, because if you show too much sympathy for the hostage, you're going to give the hostage taker leverage. If you show you're willing to let them kill the hostage if they're too badly hurt, you've gained an advantage, as hostage taking is a business, where there is only one buyer for each product.

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* In ''Series/BurnNotice'', ''Series/BurnNotice''
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Michael state that you have to be cruel to be kind when in hostage negotiations, because if you show too much sympathy for the hostage, you're going to give the hostage taker hostage-taker leverage. If you show you're willing to let them kill the hostage if they're too badly hurt, you've gained an advantage, as hostage taking is a business, where there is only one buyer for each product.


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** He even namedrops the trope in another episode, where his mom Madeline is forced to blackmail a woman who watches over insurance records and who she grew close enough to call a friend in order to get the files they need to stop the VillainOfTheWeek. He notes that you have to do this in blackmailing situations because showing sympathy for the target only makes things worse on both ends and that in order to make it as easy as possible, you have to be the bad guy. Madeline plays the role perfectly in order to get the files, which reduces the woman to tears...but she's royally pissed and hurt at both herself and Michael for having to do it since she knows it means she'll lose her job. Michael even mentions that while this approach might make it easier on the victim, it does nothing for the blackmailer if they ''do'' care. [[spoiler:Luckily, Michael reveals he managed to break in and put them back before anyone could find out, thus sparing the woman]].
23rd Jun '17 2:18:14 AM Kingler
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* One episode of ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' sees the doctor make a new, cloying friend named Bob, who's in a wheelchair. When Frasier finally breaks it off, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech listing all the things he hates about Bob]], the man is crushed. A remorseful Frasier then [[BlatantLies pretends that he actually hates Bob for being crippled]] to restore his confidence. Unfortunately, nearby people overhear this and chew Frasier out as he futilely tries to explain himself.

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* One episode of ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' sees the doctor make a new, cloying friend named Bob, who's in a wheelchair. When Frasier finally breaks it off, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech listing all he tells the things man exactly what he hates about Bob]], the man is crushed. A him]]. This breaks Bob's heart, so a remorseful Frasier then [[BlatantLies [[PretendPrejudice pretends that he actually hates Bob for being crippled]] the disabled]] to [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre restore his confidence.Bob's confidence]]. Unfortunately, nearby people overhear this and chew Frasier out as he futilely tries to explain himself.
21st Jun '17 9:13:17 PM TheDocCC
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Organizations should boot people who aren't going to cut it early. Kick them out during Basic Training, or the first semester of medical school, or fire them as soon as you see they aren't going to make it on the job. Fail quickly. Get them out there to do something else with their life, and fill their slot with another applicant. That's best for the applicant, who is miserable, possibly wasting money, and likely to fail anyway. That's best for the organization, as it allows someone else to give it (whatever it is) a shot.

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* Organizations should boot people who aren't going to cut it early. Kick them out during Basic Training, or the first semester of medical school, or fire them as soon as you see they aren't going to make it on the job. Fail quickly. Get them out there to do something else with their life, and fill their slot with another applicant. That's best for the applicant, who is miserable, possibly wasting money, and likely to fail anyway. That's best for the organization, as it allows someone else to give it (whatever it is) a shot.
21st Jun '17 9:12:35 PM TheDocCC
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* This is the principle of [[https://hbr.org/2014/03/hire-slow-fire-fast Fire Fast]], discussed in the link by Harvard Business Review.
Organizations should boot people who aren't going to cut it early. Kick them out during Basic Training, or the first semester of medical school, or fire them as soon as you see they aren't going to make it on the job. Fail quickly. Get them out there to do something else with their life, and fill their slot with another applicant. That's best for the applicant, who is miserable, possibly wasting money, and likely to fail anyway. That's best for the organization, as it allows someone else to give it (whatever it is) a shot.
** One notorious example is Hell Week in SEAL training. Cut the people who won't make it as soon as possible, so they won't get hurt, won't hold up the team, won't waste taxpayer's money, and won't occupy a slot someone else might have.
9th Jun '17 8:57:39 AM Gamermaster
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* This is what Ishigami's plan to take down Iino's campaign boils down to in ''Manga/KaguyaSamaWaKokurasetai''. He wants an overwhelming victory in Shirogane's favor to take her down a peg, so that the blow will be so devastating that all the bullying she had been suffering from before, during, and after the election is turned to pity—that she didn't lose just because she was inept, she lost because her opponent outclassed her in every way.



* In ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' Shota Aizawa takes this approach to his students, not hesitating to expel them if he feels they aren't up to hero work. As far as he's concerned, it's kinder to just send them home than to let them waste time and effort on something they aren't capable of achieving.



* In ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' Shota Aizawa takes this approach to his students, not hesitating to expel them if he feels they aren't up to hero work. As far as he's concerned, it's kinder to just send them home than to let them waste time and effort on something they aren't capable of achieving.
9th Jun '17 3:03:27 AM lalaTKG
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** Ryo had spent an arc protecting an old friend of his: a weaponsmith that wanted to quit her job for her daughter's sake. However she was considering to go back on her decision in order to remain with Ryo. So he made her believing that, should she stay in his apartment, he and his friends would force her to constantly fix their weapons. Disgusted, she decided leaving ([[http://mangafox.me/manga/city_hunter/v24/c125/16.html although she eventually understood and accepted that Ryo was trying to do]]).

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** Ryo had spent an arc protecting an old friend of his: a weaponsmith that wanted to quit her job for her daughter's sake. However she was considering to go back on her decision in order to remain with Ryo. So he made her believing believe that, should she stay in his apartment, he and his friends would force her to constantly fix their weapons. Disgusted, she decided leaving ([[http://mangafox.me/manga/city_hunter/v24/c125/16.html although she eventually understood and accepted that Ryo was trying to do]]).
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