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10th Apr '17 2:08:31 PM nombretomado
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* One of the main reasons along with poor sales as to why ''CloverStudios'' left ''{{Capcom}}'' and became ''PlatinumGames'' at ''{{Sega}}''.

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* One of the main reasons along with poor sales as to why ''CloverStudios'' left ''{{Capcom}}'' and became ''PlatinumGames'' at ''{{Sega}}''.''Creator/{{Sega}}''.
2nd Apr '17 12:20:39 PM Malady
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* ''Webcomic/HiToTsukiToHoshiNoTama'': As said in the [[http://htht.elcenia.com/about.shtml About]] Page:
--> The idea for HTHT was originally going to be a collaboration between myself and my friend Emily Martha Sorensen of Webcomic/AMagicalRoommate and Webcomic/ToPreventWorldPeace. Creative differences led us to believe that collaborating was not, in fact, a good idea. We each peeled off parts of the concept and went our separate ways with them. Most of the original plan is unfolding here in HTHT.
12th Mar '17 7:24:37 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** In Japan, cases such as these are known for splintering companies. Most famous being Shooto and Fighting Network RINGS out of the Wrestling/UniversalWrestlingFederation and Wrestling/ProWrestlingNOAH from Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling. Really, though, a wrestler leaving for ''any'' reason might splinter a company, such as when Wrestling 1 from All Japan after Wrestling/TheGreatMuta resigned in penance for Taru assaulting someone during the off hours and then was refused re entry back into the company when the new brass started running it into the ground.

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** In Japan, cases such as these are known for splintering companies. Most famous being Shooto and Fighting Network RINGS out of the Wrestling/UniversalWrestlingFederation and Wrestling/ProWrestlingNOAH from Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling. Really, though, a wrestler leaving for ''any'' reason might splinter a company, such as when Wrestling Wrestle 1 from All Japan after Wrestling/TheGreatMuta resigned in penance for Taru assaulting someone during the off hours and then was refused re entry back into the company when the new brass started running it into the ground.
9th Mar '17 4:42:30 AM jormis29
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* The ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' series had them twice. Creator/MatthewVaughn left ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' early in production feeling the time constraints wouldn't allow him to make the movie he wanted (family issues didn't help either; him having to just produce ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' was less this than just deciding to make ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'' earlier). During pre-production of ''Film/{{Deadpool}} 2'', Tim Miller left due to creative differences with the film's star and co-producer Ryan Reynolds as Miller was interested in having the sequel being a big-budget film, while Reynolds wanted another "cheap" movie like the original.

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* The ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' ''Film/XMen'' series had them twice. Creator/MatthewVaughn left ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' early in production feeling the time constraints wouldn't allow him to make the movie he wanted (family issues didn't help either; him having to just produce ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' was less this than just deciding to make ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'' earlier). During pre-production of ''Film/{{Deadpool}} 2'', ''Film/Deadpool2'', Tim Miller left due to creative differences with the film's star and co-producer Ryan Reynolds as Miller was interested in having the sequel being a big-budget film, while Reynolds wanted another "cheap" movie like the original.
26th Feb '17 2:28:00 PM nombretomado
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** More recently, they have grown very disgusted at Sega's Marketing for one of their more recent titles, ''VideoGame/AnarchyReigns'', epecially in the U.S. This is possibly one of the reasons they allowed themselves to branch out to even more companies, like with {{Konami}} to develop the gameplay for VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance, and being the main developer for the Creator/{{Nintendo}} published, WiiU exclusive title, ''VideoGame/TheWonderful101'' as well as the main exclusive publisher of ''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} 2'' (With Sega merely owning the IP rights, with no development input)..

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** More recently, they have grown very disgusted at Sega's Marketing for one of their more recent titles, ''VideoGame/AnarchyReigns'', epecially in the U.S. This is possibly one of the reasons they allowed themselves to branch out to even more companies, like with {{Konami}} {{Creator/Konami}} to develop the gameplay for VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance, and being the main developer for the Creator/{{Nintendo}} published, WiiU exclusive title, ''VideoGame/TheWonderful101'' as well as the main exclusive publisher of ''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} 2'' (With Sega merely owning the IP rights, with no development input)..
5th Feb '17 5:42:58 PM Xtifr
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* Creator/ChevyChase gained a certain amount of notoriety both among fans and his coworkers for being outspoken regarding what he thought was the poor quality of ''Series/{{Community}}'', and for feuding with series creator DanHarmon behind the scenes over it. He ended up quitting the show in November 2012 with only two episodes left of the shortened fourth season to film. However, while he was vocal about what he thought was the poor quality of the show, he was willing to return to film a brief cameo appearance in Season 5, indicating that the feud between himself and Harmon has largely been resolved or was overstated.

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* Creator/ChevyChase gained a certain amount of notoriety both among fans and his coworkers for being outspoken regarding what he thought was the poor quality of ''Series/{{Community}}'', and for feuding with series creator DanHarmon Creator/DanHarmon behind the scenes over it. He ended up quitting the show in November 2012 with only two episodes left of the shortened fourth season to film. However, while he was vocal about what he thought was the poor quality of the show, he was willing to return to film a brief cameo appearance in Season 5, indicating that the feud between himself and Harmon has largely been resolved or was overstated.
21st Jan '17 8:09:21 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* This is what turned Alterbeast into a studio project and ruined relations between Andrew Lamb and virtually all of the other personnel (though original vocalist Cam Rogers is still okay with him). A lengthy and somewhat troubled US tour had brought his controlling tendencies to the forefront, and his anger at having to go through what were apparently unpleasant but expected pitfalls of being in a low-level touring act magnified those tendencies. After tensions between him and everyone else (including former drummer and emergency fill-in Gabe Seeber) had reached a boiling point, the band dropped off the tour early, went home, and dissolved almost completely save for Lamb, who turned it into a more-or-less solo project.

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* This is what turned caused Alterbeast into a studio project to lose everyone in the band and ruined relations between Andrew Lamb and virtually all most of the other personnel (though original vocalist Cam Rogers is still okay with him).personnel. A lengthy and somewhat troubled US tour had brought his controlling tendencies to the forefront, and his anger at having to go through what were apparently unpleasant but expected pitfalls of being in a low-level touring act magnified those tendencies. After tensions between him and everyone else (including former drummer and emergency fill-in Gabe Seeber) had reached a boiling point, the band dropped off the tour early, went home, and dissolved almost completely save for Lamb, who turned it into spent the better part of the year rebuilding the band.
* Music/{{Warbringer}} has had
a more-or-less solo project.lot of departures that have mostly been due to their heavy touring schedule, but a few were truly creative (John Laux) and personal (Ben Bennett). The former had been growing tired of metal and heavy music in general for a while, and by Kevill's admission, some of the more upbeat punk-influenced material on ''IV: Empires Collapse'' was intended to placate him (which failed, as he left almost right after the album dropped). Bennett, meanwhile, had started out as a live fill-in on their early tours due to Andy Laux's inability to tour (as he was still in high school) before being made full-time, and his arrogance, incredibly abrasive personality, and drug issues made him quickly wear out his welcome and culminated in an incident on a very large tour where he kept making incredibly cruel and hurtful personal digs at Nic Ritter that finally resulted in Ritter running out of the van and punching a dumpster hard enough to break his hand, which put him out of commission for the rest of the tour and made Kevill angry enough to pull Bennett out of the van and stomp on his head before kicking him out the minute the tour had concluded.
6th Jan '17 7:36:29 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/TheAvengers2012'': Creator/EdwardNorton was let go early on from playing Bruce Banner despite having played him in [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk the 2008 film]]. When asked why Marvel stated that "[[http://www.avclub.com/article/marvel-kicks-edward-norton-out-of-emthe-avengersem-42993 Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members]]", which implied Norton was fired for not getting along with the other actors and crew, as well as butting heads with brass over the screenplay (an issue that was prominent when Norton did ''AmericanHistoryX''). Norton's agent disputed this claim, as did Norton (who said he enjoyed the experience but didn't want to lock in the role long-term) but regardless the part was recast with Creator/MarkRuffalo, who acted in the role to widespread acclaim.

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* ''Film/TheAvengers2012'': Creator/EdwardNorton was let go early on from playing Bruce Banner despite having played him in [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk the 2008 film]]. When asked why Marvel stated that "[[http://www.avclub.com/article/marvel-kicks-edward-norton-out-of-emthe-avengersem-42993 Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members]]", which implied Norton was fired for not getting along with the other actors and crew, as well as butting heads with brass over the screenplay (an issue that was prominent when Norton did ''AmericanHistoryX'').''Film/AmericanHistoryX''). Norton's agent disputed this claim, as did Norton (who said he enjoyed the experience but didn't want to lock in the role long-term) but regardless the part was recast with Creator/MarkRuffalo, who acted in the role to widespread acclaim.
5th Jan '17 5:27:12 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* The ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' series had them twice. Matthew Vaughn left ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' early in production feeling the time constraints wouldn't allow him to make the movie he wanted (family issues didn't help either; him having to just produce ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' was less this than just deciding to make ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'' earlier). During pre-production of ''Film/{{Deadpool}} 2'', Tim Miller left due to creative differences with the film's star and co-producer Ryan Reynolds as Miller was interested in having the sequel being a big-budget film, while Reynolds wanted another "cheap" movie like the original.

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* The ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' series had them twice. Matthew Vaughn Creator/MatthewVaughn left ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' early in production feeling the time constraints wouldn't allow him to make the movie he wanted (family issues didn't help either; him having to just produce ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' was less this than just deciding to make ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'' earlier). During pre-production of ''Film/{{Deadpool}} 2'', Tim Miller left due to creative differences with the film's star and co-producer Ryan Reynolds as Miller was interested in having the sequel being a big-budget film, while Reynolds wanted another "cheap" movie like the original.



** When John Rhys-Davies left the cast of ''Series/{{Sliders}}'' just as the show had been [[ReTool retooled]] away from SpeculativeFiction and toward "rip off whatever movie is popular this week", he cited CreativeDifferences with the writers as the reason. Most observers concluded, "He was creative; they weren't."

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** When John Rhys-Davies Creator/JohnRhysDavies left the cast of ''Series/{{Sliders}}'' just as the show had been [[ReTool retooled]] away from SpeculativeFiction and toward "rip off whatever movie is popular this week", he cited CreativeDifferences with the writers as the reason. Most observers concluded, "He was creative; they weren't."



* Music/TheBeatles all seemed to develop different musical styles by the mid-60's (''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'' was seen by many fans as being "four solo albums in one" rather than a true band album), and they began to feel a bit of this. Especially George, whose growing songwriting skills weren't fully acknowledged by the Lennon/[=McCartney=] pair. The movie ''Film/LetItBe'' is essentially what happens when someone has a film camera and films a band suffering from CreativeDifferences -- lots of bitter, snide passive aggressive sniping. There's one famous scene with Paul [=McCartney=] and George Harrison having a bitter fight over a chord.

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* Music/TheBeatles all seemed to develop different musical styles by the mid-60's (''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'' was seen by many fans as being "four solo albums in one" rather than a true band album), and they began to feel a bit of this. Especially George, Music/GeorgeHarrison, whose growing songwriting skills weren't fully acknowledged by the Lennon/[=McCartney=] pair.Music/JohnLennon and Music/PaulMcCartney. The movie ''Film/LetItBe'' is essentially what happens when someone has a film camera and films a band suffering from CreativeDifferences -- lots of bitter, snide passive aggressive sniping. There's one famous scene with Paul [=McCartney=] and George Harrison having a bitter fight over a chord.
1st Jan '17 6:27:46 AM Smeagol17
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When they actually mean it, it refers to irreconcilably different artistic visions for the show. For actors, it often means, "I'm not getting paid enough to put up with this." For writers and other members of the creative team, it usually means, "I've had it with the producers, the executives, and [[MediaWatchdog Standards & Practices]] [[ExecutiveMeddling telling me what I can and can't write]]." For musicians, it can sometimes mean "we had totally different styles and couldn't see eye-to-eye on anything", but it usually means "I can't stand the assholes in my band" or "I got fired for being a dick and this is the most tactful way to word it". In most cases, it's just a euphemism for, "I got in a big fight with the producer." Likely anytime some one mentions "scheduling conflicts", it means there's been a conflict between the director and producers or studio. Then the director quits or is fired. If there's only one constant member and a steady flow of departures and inductions, this is usually an indication of a PrimaDonnaDirector at the very least and is also usually a sign that the lone holdout is [[JerkAss an incorrigible dick who doesn't know how to work with other people]].

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When they actually mean it, it refers to irreconcilably different artistic visions for the show. For actors, it often means, "I'm not getting paid enough to put up with this." For writers and other members of the creative team, it usually means, "I've had it with the producers, the executives, and [[MediaWatchdog Standards & Practices]] [[ExecutiveMeddling telling me what I can and can't write]]." For musicians, it can sometimes mean "we had totally different styles and couldn't see eye-to-eye on anything", but it usually means "I can't stand the assholes in my band" or "I got fired for being a dick and this is the most tactful way to word it". In most cases, it's just a euphemism for, "I got in a big fight with the producer." Likely Also anytime some one someone mentions "scheduling conflicts", it likely means there's been a conflict between the director and producers or studio. Then the director quits or is fired. If there's only one constant member and a steady flow of departures and inductions, this is usually an indication of a PrimaDonnaDirector at the very least and is also usually a sign that the lone holdout is [[JerkAss an incorrigible dick who doesn't know how to work with other people]].
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