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16th Dec '16 3:44:27 PM PhantomRider
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* The original ''{{Transformers}}'' series and Marvel comic often do what humans would consider unforgivable acts of playing god. Many robots were created in moments of "We need someone to do X; let's build 'em!" Their society just sees this thing differently from humans. The things that go wrong when humans do it seldom show up - the result is usually perfectly sane ''and'' treated as an equal from day one. FridgeLogic dictates the necessity of this trope, since how else could robots reproduce? The comic even has an instance of five Autobots who allowed full copies of their data to be made, to be placed in new bodies if Optimus needed extra backup on Earth. No sign of CloningBlues, though unfortunately we don't get to meet the versions of them who are still on Cybertron.

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* The original ''{{Transformers}}'' series and Marvel comic often do what humans would consider unforgivable acts of playing god. Many robots were created in moments of "We need someone to do X; let's build 'em!" Their society just sees this thing differently from humans. The things that go wrong when humans do it seldom show up - the result is usually perfectly sane ''and'' treated as an equal from day one. Of course, before everything we knew about 'sparks' and 'protoforms' came to be, FridgeLogic dictates dictated the necessity of this trope, since how else could robots reproduce? The comic even has an instance of five Autobots who allowed full copies of their data to be made, to be placed in new bodies if Optimus needed extra backup on Earth. No sign of CloningBlues, though unfortunately we don't get to meet the versions of them who are still on Cybertron.
13th Sep '16 1:11:51 PM Apromor
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* In ''TabletopGame/ArsMagica'' The nature mysteries of the Merinita and the research of the Maga Ierimyra, (in the Broken Covenant of Calebais adventure) both allow the creation of breeds of supernatural animals with intelligence and/or magical powers with no drawback to the creator aside from the effort it takes to do the job and the responsibility of having to deal with the resulting race of super animals. Also Golems can be created by Jewish Kabbalists as in folklore.

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* In ''TabletopGame/ArsMagica'' The nature mysteries of the Merinita and the research of the Maga Ierimyra, (in the Broken Covenant of Calebais adventure) both allow the creation of breeds of supernatural animals with intelligence and/or magical powers with no drawback to the creator aside from the effort it takes to do the job and the responsibility of having to deal with the resulting race of super animals. Also Golems Also, golems can be created by Jewish Kabbalists as in folklore.
13th Sep '16 1:09:36 PM Apromor
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* In ''TabletopGame/ArsMagica'' The nature mysteries of the Merinita and the research of the Maga Ierimyra, (in the Broken Covenant of Calebais adventure) both allow the creation of breeds of supernatural animals with intelligence and/or magical powers with no drawback to the creator aside from the effort it takes to do the job and the responsibility of having to deal with the resulting race of super animals.

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* In ''TabletopGame/ArsMagica'' The nature mysteries of the Merinita and the research of the Maga Ierimyra, (in the Broken Covenant of Calebais adventure) both allow the creation of breeds of supernatural animals with intelligence and/or magical powers with no drawback to the creator aside from the effort it takes to do the job and the responsibility of having to deal with the resulting race of super animals. Also Golems can be created by Jewish Kabbalists as in folklore.
13th Sep '16 1:00:09 PM Apromor
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* In ''TabletopGame/ArsMagica'' The nature mysteries of the Merinita and the research of the Maga Ierimyra, (in the Broken Covenant of Calebais adventure) both allow the creation of breeds of supernatural animals with intelligence and/or magical powers with no drawback to the creator aside from the effort it takes to do the job and the responsibility of having to deal with the resulting race of super animals.
10th Aug '16 5:19:55 PM TitaniumDragon
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* In the MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic fanfic Fanfic/{{Ruin Value}}, [[spoiler: Celestia, Luna, and Discord were all created by the last living human scientist.]]


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* ''VideoGame/TheTalosPrinciple'' is based entirely around this; humanity is dead, and they don't yet have the technology to produce a human-like AI. So they create a program which will, in the long term, produce one via evolutionary programming.
29th Jun '16 6:39:05 PM Doug86
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* In the third book of the YoungWizards series, Dairene's ordeal ends in the creation of an entire race of [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot sentient robot wizards]], [[spoiler: who then become the first species to outright reject [[{{Satan}} the Lone One's]] offer.]] Simultaneously subverts AIIsACrapshoot, [[spoiler: as they come close to making the ''spectacularly'' bad move of [[TimeStandsStill freezing the universe]] until [[AlmightyMum Dairene]] talks them out of it.]]

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* In the third book of the YoungWizards Literature/YoungWizards series, Dairene's ordeal ends in the creation of an entire race of [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot sentient robot wizards]], [[spoiler: who then become the first species to outright reject [[{{Satan}} the Lone One's]] offer.]] Simultaneously subverts AIIsACrapshoot, [[spoiler: as they come close to making the ''spectacularly'' bad move of [[TimeStandsStill freezing the universe]] until [[AlmightyMum Dairene]] talks them out of it.]]
10th May '16 12:28:28 AM erforce
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* The ultimate goal of AI research, although this might have [[Series/BattlestarGalactica1978 some]] [[{{Terminator}} undesired]] [[CrushKillDestroy consequences]].

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* The ultimate goal of AI research, although this might have [[Series/BattlestarGalactica1978 some]] [[{{Terminator}} [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} undesired]] [[CrushKillDestroy consequences]].
18th Oct '15 10:01:59 PM azul120
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In many works, CreatingLifeIsBad. An ultimate show of [[ScaleOfScientificSins scientific]] [[{{Pride}} hubris.]] Western literature has its roots in a religious tradition in which the act of creation is the turf of God Almighty. Thus, Mary Shelley's ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'' not only became very influential, but also constantly interpreted through the lens of this condemning mindset.

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In many works, CreatingLifeIsBad. An ultimate show of [[ScaleOfScientificSins scientific]] [[{{Pride}} hubris.]] hubris]]. Western literature has its roots in a religious tradition in which the act of creation is the turf of God Almighty. Thus, Mary Shelley's ''Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'' not only became very influential, but also constantly interpreted through the lens of this condemning mindset.



* Snark aside, it might add perspective to remember that ordinary people of all types are [[CreatingLife creating life]] every day. The "horizontal mambo" has (often desired) consequences. The issues above of {{pride}} and [[AGodAmI playing god]] are not absent in this example, only less [[ScienceIsBad dramatized]].
* The ultimate goal of AI research, although this might have [[Series/BattlestarGalactica1978 some]] [[{{Terminator}} undesired]] [[CrushKillDestroy consequences]].

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* Snark aside, it might add perspective to remember that ordinary people of all types are [[CreatingLife creating life]] CreatingLife every day. The "horizontal mambo" has (often desired) consequences. The issues above of {{pride}} and [[AGodAmI playing god]] are not absent in this example, only less [[ScienceIsBad dramatized]].
* The ultimate goal of AI research, although this might have [[Series/BattlestarGalactica1978 some]] [[{{Terminator}} undesired]] [[CrushKillDestroy consequences]].
10th Jul '15 9:17:58 PM HeraldAlberich
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* In ''The Black Gryphon'', which takes place JustBeforeTheEnd, thousands of years before the ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, the great mage Urtho has successfully created several intelligent species, with the gryphons being his masterwork. That he must press them into war against his opposite number Ma'ar (who creates semi-intelligent monsters in imitation of Urtho) is a source of great sorrow. The gryphons are unambiguously good creatures, and Urtho's biggest mistake lies merely in failing to trust them with the secret of successful reproduction (intentionally a more complicated process than for humans), so that they may live independently of their creator.

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* In ''The Black Gryphon'', which takes place JustBeforeTheEnd, thousands of years before the ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, the great mage Urtho has successfully created several intelligent species, with the gryphons [[OurGryphonsAreDifferent gryphons]] being his masterwork. That he must press them into war against his opposite number Ma'ar (who creates semi-intelligent monsters in imitation of Urtho) is a source of great sorrow. The gryphons are unambiguously good creatures, and Urtho's biggest mistake lies merely in failing to trust them with the secret of successful reproduction (intentionally a [[FantasyContraception more complicated process process]] than for humans), so that they may live independently of their creator.
6th Jul '15 5:48:29 PM Llygodenfawr
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Since then, more and more authors have been moving away from that old trope, instead moving towards this one- either defying the Frankenstein tradition or ignoring it completely. To qualify for this trope, the created life must be good and be treated as such. Of course, it must be created by humans or similar, not by deities in the traditional sense.

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Since then, more and more authors have been moving away from that old trope, instead moving towards this one- one -- either defying the Frankenstein tradition or ignoring it completely. To qualify for this trope, the created life must be good and be treated as such. Of course, it must be created by humans or similar, not by deities in the traditional sense.
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