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5th Feb '17 10:57:44 AM Vir
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* A ''[[RuleOfDrama dramatic]]'' Crapsack World [[TrueArtIsAngsty has plenty]] [[DysfunctionJunction of angst]] to go around, and often makes {{Woobie}}s out of its sympathetic cast, particularly the protagonist, as they [[TraumaCongaLine suffer horribly]] in their attempts to do the right thing or pursue their dreams. Expect characters [[BeingGoodSucks who do the right thing]] to [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished suffer for it]]. Expect characters who do the wrong thing to prosper... and ''[[LonelyAtTheTop then]]'' [[PyrrhicVillainy suffer]]. Examples: ''TableTopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'', ''TableTopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'', ''ComicBook/SinCity'', and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''.
* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
* An ''[[StatusQuoIsGod immutable]]'' Crapsack World has agony InherentInTheSystem, both physically and metaphysically, and cannot be saved or made a better place. Trying to break TheCorruption [[StatusQuoIsGod will instead always result]] in [[BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu breaking every bone in your body]] [[DownerEnding and it winning]], and any positive changes that you try to make will ultimately be torn down and revealed to be AllForNothing--or, even worse, they will only succeed in [[NiceJobBreakingItHero making things even worse for you and the people that you were trying to help]], and/or [[GambitRoulette even accomplish whatever the villains wanted in the first place]]. Examples: ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', ''Tabletopgame/{{FATAL}}'', and the LovecraftianFiction genre in general.

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* A ''[[RuleOfDrama dramatic]]'' Crapsack World [[TrueArtIsAngsty has plenty]] [[DysfunctionJunction of angst]] to go around, and often makes {{Woobie}}s out of its sympathetic cast, particularly the protagonist, as they [[TraumaCongaLine suffer horribly]] in their attempts to do the right thing or pursue their dreams. Expect characters [[BeingGoodSucks who do the right thing]] to [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished suffer for it]]. Expect characters who do the wrong thing to prosper... and ''[[LonelyAtTheTop then]]'' [[PyrrhicVillainy suffer]]. Examples: ''TableTopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'', ''TableTopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'', ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'', ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'', ''ComicBook/SinCity'', and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''.
* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
* An ''[[StatusQuoIsGod immutable]]'' Crapsack World has agony InherentInTheSystem, both physically and metaphysically, and cannot be saved or made a better place. Trying to break TheCorruption [[StatusQuoIsGod will instead always result]] in [[BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu breaking every bone in your body]] [[DownerEnding and it winning]], and any positive changes that you try to make will ultimately be torn down and revealed to be AllForNothing--or, even worse, they will only succeed in [[NiceJobBreakingItHero making things even worse for you and the people that you were trying to help]], and/or [[GambitRoulette even accomplish whatever the villains wanted in the first place]]. Examples: ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', ''Tabletopgame/{{FATAL}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{FATAL}}'', and the LovecraftianFiction genre in general.
16th Dec '16 12:01:16 AM n0321
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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''Film/Elysium'', ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.

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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''Film/Elysium'', ''Film/{{Elysium}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.
16th Dec '16 12:00:50 AM n0321
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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.

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* A ''[[ScrewDestiny mutable]]'' Crapsack World simply ''starts out'' as crappy, but a determined protagonist and his TrueCompanions, be they the [[KnightInShiningArmor Knight In Shining]] (or in many of these cases, [[KnightInSourArmour Sour]]) [[KnightInShiningArmor Armor]] or a simple old PI, can actually cause some, but mostly few, [[EarnYourHappyEnding positive changes in the setting]]. See also AWorldHalfFull. Examples: ''Film/Elysium'', ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'', ''Film/MadMax'', and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}''.
18th Nov '16 2:00:29 AM Yugnat
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20th Sep '16 12:10:04 PM Angeldeb82
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[DespairEventHorizon No hope]]. [[AndIMustScream No release]]. [[FateWorseThanDeath No end]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[DespairEventHorizon No hope]]. hope.]] [[AndIMustScream No release]]. release.]] [[FateWorseThanDeath No end]].]]
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Although there are countless ways Crapsack Worlds can be depicted (often with SceneryGorn), it is usually [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]], on the Romantic end on the RomanticismVersusEnlightenment scale, and on the [[CynicismTropes cynical end]] of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism, so it will have either GreyAndGrayMorality or BlackAndGreyMorality, if not outright EvilVersusEvil in the worst of cases (beware of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy if you decide to go this route though). Settings like these are not kind at all to [[WideEyedIdealist idealists]], who usually get [[BreakTheCutie traumatized]] and/or [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die horribly]] when their attempts to change the world through idealism meet tragic ends.

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Although there are countless ways Crapsack Worlds can be depicted (often with SceneryGorn), it is usually [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]], {{dark|erAndEdgier}}, on the Romantic end on the RomanticismVersusEnlightenment scale, and on the [[CynicismTropes cynical end]] of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism, so it will have either GreyAndGrayMorality or BlackAndGreyMorality, BlackAndGrayMorality, if not outright EvilVersusEvil in the worst of cases (beware of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy if you decide to go this route though). Settings like these are not kind at all to [[WideEyedIdealist idealists]], who usually get [[BreakTheCutie traumatized]] and/or [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die horribly]] when their attempts to change the world through idealism meet tragic ends.
7th Sep '16 1:59:43 AM PaulA
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-->-- '''James Branch Cabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''

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-->-- '''James Branch Cabell''', '''Creator/JamesBranchCabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''
27th Jul '16 1:45:51 AM Shadowgazer
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''Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease This is a metaphysical trope that's clearly defined by the writer, not an opinion by people complaining about the world as a whole (localized places that '''are''' very horrible in Real Life should perhaps go to WretchedHive and other non-metaphysical tropes instead).'' Please also note that a Crapsack World will suck for everyone and everything. ''No one'' benefits or enjoys their existence in such a place, or, if they do, then it is only briefly.

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''Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease This is a metaphysical trope that's clearly defined by the writer, not an opinion by people complaining about the world as a whole (localized places that '''are''' very horrible in Real Life should perhaps go to WretchedHive and other non-metaphysical tropes instead).'' Please also note that a Crapsack World will suck for everyone and everything. ''No one'' benefits or enjoys their existence in such a place, or, if they do, then it is only briefly.''
28th Jun '16 5:07:37 AM Monolaf317
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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]

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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
12th Mar '16 3:01:03 PM eroock
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->''The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist fears it is true.''
-->--'''James Branch Cabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''

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->''The ->''"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist fears it is true.''
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-->-- '''James
Branch Cabell''', ''The Silver Stallion'', misattributed to '''Robert Oppenheimer'''
3rd Mar '16 12:15:30 PM TheKoS
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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]

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* A ''[[RuleOfFunny comedic]]'' Crapsack World is PlayedForLaughs and is made up of idiots, {{Jerkass}}es, {{Butt Monkey}}s, [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] and the occasional OnlySaneMan, with plenty of ComedicSociopathy to go around. These include the BlackComedy, the SadistShow and the WorldGoneMad. The "upside" is that it's usually [[SatireParodyPastiche parodic]] and [[CrossesTheLineTwice funny in its extremes]]. Though people die left and right, it likely has NegativeContinuity to facilitate the inhabitants' suffering. Examples: ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'', ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', ''WebAnimation/MattNDusty'', and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. ''Tabletopgame/{{Paranoia}}'' is [[BlatantLies not an example of this in the slightest.]]
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