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17th Aug '17 12:31:03 AM jormis29
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* In ''Film/TheSaint'', a fusion reaction is contained in a '''glass jar'''. ''Stars'' are powered by fusion reactions. Stars in general are not known for their utter lack of heat. Note that was cold fusion, which doesn't actually "work" but that's how you're supposed to do it in real life: Electrodes in a glass jar.

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* In ''Film/TheSaint'', ''Film/TheSaint1997'', a fusion reaction is contained in a '''glass jar'''. ''Stars'' are powered by fusion reactions. Stars in general are not known for their utter lack of heat. Note that was cold fusion, which doesn't actually "work" but that's how you're supposed to do it in real life: Electrodes in a glass jar.
28th Jul '17 4:03:28 PM merotoker
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* Played as straight as possible in a ''Flash Gordon'' parody from Wally Wood's ''[[ComicStrip/SallyForthWood Sally Forth]]''. The heroine Sally uses a {{Jetpack}} to fly around while ''completely naked,'' but doesn't suffer any injuries from doing so.

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* Played as straight as possible in a ''Flash Gordon'' parody from Wally Wood's ''[[ComicStrip/SallyForthWood Sally Forth]]''.''ComicStrip/{{Sally Forth|Wood}}''. The heroine Sally uses a {{Jetpack}} to fly around while ''completely naked,'' but doesn't suffer any injuries from doing so.



* The {{Film/Sharknado}} films have been well-known for giving the middle finger to the laws of physics. A rather amusing example is in Film/SharknadoThe4thAwakens, when one of the sharknados becomes a Nukenado. The heroes go to fight it and, naturally, aren't cooked from the inside.

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* The {{Film/Sharknado}} films have been well-known for giving the middle finger to the laws of physics. A rather amusing example is in Film/SharknadoThe4thAwakens, ''Film/SharknadoThe4thAwakens'', when one of the sharknados becomes a Nukenado. The heroes go to fight it and, naturally, aren't cooked from the inside.



** In the same scene, the protagonists have to rescue an unconscious fireman stuck at the far end of a fire truck's ladder. Apparently convection from a precarious position ''is'' enough to make metal melt and bend, and clothes ignite, but if you make it to solid ground you're safe even if you're ''closer'' to the lava now than you were while up on the ladder.
*** To be fair, being ''above'' the lava would put both ladder and fireman directly in the rising column of heat, while being ''next to'' the lava wouldn't.

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** In the same scene, the protagonists have to rescue an unconscious fireman stuck at the far end of a fire truck's ladder. Apparently convection from a precarious position ''is'' enough to make metal melt and bend, and clothes ignite, but if you make it to solid ground you're safe even if you're ''closer'' to the lava now than you were while up on the ladder.
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ladder. To be fair, being ''above'' the lava would put both ladder and fireman directly in the rising column of heat, while being ''next to'' the lava wouldn't.



* The infamous SyFyChannelOriginalMovie ''Raptor Island'' features a scene where the female lead runs across a tree over a river of lava.

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* The infamous SyFyChannelOriginalMovie Film/SyFyChannelOriginalMovie ''Raptor Island'' features a scene where the female lead runs across a tree over a river of lava.



* In the first ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfThomasCovenant'', the giant Foamfollower carries Covenant across Hotash Slay, a river of lava. Foamfollower, being a giant, is immune to fire and so can withstand the heat of the lava; Covenant, however, should have been fried before Foamfollower even stepped into the river. There is some effort at [[HandWave Hand Waving]] this -- it is implied that Covenant's ring is involved -- but still, it's fairly ludicrous.

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* In the first ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfThomasCovenant'', the giant Foamfollower carries Covenant across Hotash Slay, a river of lava. Foamfollower, being a giant, is immune to fire and so can withstand the heat of the lava; Covenant, however, should have been fried before Foamfollower even stepped into the river. There is some effort at [[HandWave Hand Waving]] {{Hand Wav|e}}ing this -- it is implied that Covenant's ring is involved -- but still, it's fairly ludicrous.



* ''Series/{{Mythbusters}}'' once tested firewalking over charcoal. The build team found out that coal is actually a decent insulator; the top being much cooler than the underside, and that the proper technique is a casual walk. This is because when running, more weight is concentrated on less area, causing a person's feet to dig into the coals; potentially causing severe burns. [[ButtMonkey Adam]] found that out [[AgonyOfTheFeet the hard way]]. It's a favorite trick of "life coaches" to demonstrate firewalking over wood or charcoal. Ask them to repeat the feat with a comparatively ''cooler'' metal plate.
** On a similar note, the Mythbusters have demonstrated that it's perfectly possible to (very briefly) dip your fingers into molten lead, if you dip them in water beforehand. The layer of water coating your skin evaporates the moment it makes contact, and water vapor is yet another excellent insulator.

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* ''Series/{{Mythbusters}}'' once tested firewalking over charcoal. The build team found out that coal is actually a decent insulator; the top being much cooler than the underside, and that the proper technique is a casual walk. This is because when running, more weight is concentrated on less area, causing a person's feet to dig into the coals; potentially causing severe burns. [[ButtMonkey Adam]] found that out [[AgonyOfTheFeet the hard way]]. It's a favorite trick of "life coaches" to demonstrate firewalking over wood or charcoal. Ask them to repeat the feat with a comparatively ''cooler'' metal plate.
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On a similar note, the Mythbusters have demonstrated that it's perfectly possible to (very briefly) dip your fingers into molten lead, if you dip them in water beforehand. The layer of water coating your skin evaporates the moment it makes contact, and water vapor is yet another excellent insulator.



* ''Pinball/{{Gorgar}}'' takes place inside the monster's LavaPit, but both the BarbarianHero and the DistressedDamsel suffer no obvious ill effects.

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* ''Pinball/{{Gorgar}}'' takes place inside the monster's LavaPit, but both the BarbarianHero and the DistressedDamsel DamselInDistress suffer no obvious ill effects.



** This Trope is used to demonstrate how tough Immortals are on the cover of ''The Immortal Storm'', an introductory adventure for Immortal-Level players in the original boxed set. The cover shows four scantly-clad human-like figures with perfectly toned torsos wading through lava with no discomfort at all. (After all, when the PlayerCharacters are Immortal and confronted by lava, "convection? schmonvection!" is their most likely response.)

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** This Trope is used to demonstrate how tough Immortals are on the cover of ''The Immortal Storm'', an introductory adventure for Immortal-Level players in the original boxed set. The cover shows four scantly-clad human-like figures with perfectly toned torsos wading through lava with no discomfort at all. (After all, when the PlayerCharacters {{Player Character}}s are Immortal and confronted by lava, "convection? schmonvection!" is their most likely response.)
9th Jul '17 5:23:45 PM LadyJaneGrey
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** This Trope is used to demonstrate how tough Immortals are on the cover of ''The Immortal Storm'', an introductory adventure for Immortal-Level players in the original boxed set. The cover shows four scantly-clad human-like figures with perfectly toned torsos wading through lava with no discomfort at all. (After all, when the PlayerCharacters are Immortal and confronted by lava, "convection? schmonvection!" is their most likely response.)
28th Jun '17 6:50:16 PM TheSinful
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** Visser Three has a morph that can fire lethal amounts of heat (enough to boil a person alive) and even being near it is described as standing in front of an open oven.
14th Jun '17 10:38:31 AM readergirl304
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**''Film/QuantumofSolace'' has a climactic fight in a hotel that's burning down. None of the combatants have any trouble breathing, talking, seeing, or fighting. Bond even runs through flames to rescue a woman having a PTSD episode, and then the two of them run through a burning, collapsing wall. No one gets burned.
24th May '17 6:01:50 AM PianoMurderer
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* Played absolutely straight, with deliberate intent, in [[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/373989/your-alicorn-is-in-another-castle Your Alicorn Is In Another Castle]]. Twilight's first investigation of the platforms floating over the lava in Bowser's kingdom discovers that they don't conduct the heat into her hooves. In fact, the lava doesn't conduct any heat into the air: anything drifting up gets about a hoof-height above the molten rock and stops right there. She quickly concludes that the local physics are a little weird.
16th May '17 8:33:54 AM ryanasaurus0077
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* Averted in ''Film/{{Sky High|2005}}''-when crawling through a dark AirVentPassageway, someone suggests that [[PlayingWithFire Warren]] use his powers to light the way. He doesn't, because the heat would fry them.

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* Averted in ''Film/{{Sky High|2005}}''-when High|2005}}''. When crawling through a dark AirVentPassageway, someone suggests that [[PlayingWithFire Warren]] use his powers to light the way. He doesn't, because the heat would fry them.them.
* Averted in ''Film/TheMadMagician''. After Gallico previews his sensational new illusion, Mr. Prentiss, amazed by the realism of said illusion, touches the furnace used for said illusion in his excitement, and his fingers are immediately singed.
-->'''Mr. Prentiss''': Oh! it's still hot.
16th May '17 7:54:14 AM Dracis
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* ''Series/{{Mythbusters}}'' once tested firewalking over charcoal. The build team found out that coal is actually a decent insulator; the top being much cooler than the underside, and that the proper technique is a casual walk. This is because when running, more weight is concentrated on less area, causing a person's feet to dig into the coals; potentially causing severe burns. It's a favorite trick of "life coaches" to demonstrate firewalking over wood or charcoal. Ask them to repeat the feat with a comparatively ''cooler'' metal plate.

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* ''Series/{{Mythbusters}}'' once tested firewalking over charcoal. The build team found out that coal is actually a decent insulator; the top being much cooler than the underside, and that the proper technique is a casual walk. This is because when running, more weight is concentrated on less area, causing a person's feet to dig into the coals; potentially causing severe burns. [[ButtMonkey Adam]] found that out [[AgonyOfTheFeet the hard way]]. It's a favorite trick of "life coaches" to demonstrate firewalking over wood or charcoal. Ask them to repeat the feat with a comparatively ''cooler'' metal plate.plate.
** On a similar note, the Mythbusters have demonstrated that it's perfectly possible to (very briefly) dip your fingers into molten lead, if you dip them in water beforehand. The layer of water coating your skin evaporates the moment it makes contact, and water vapor is yet another excellent insulator.
30th Apr '17 9:52:41 AM lumpman2
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[[LavaAddsAwesome As awesome as lava is,]] most TV writers and video game developers forget that "really hot" part. The hero is making his way through the LethalLavaLand, but wait! There are floating rocks, he can make it across to the other side! Except in the real world, the heat coming off of the lava would have cooked him already.[[note]] And if the lava is fresh enough, it's also releasing all sorts of interesting gases that do the human body no good to breathe, but that's wandering a bit from the subject.[[/note]] Put your hand above an open flame and you have an idea of how hot that room, cave, or EternalEngine ''should'' be. While it's possible for the outer layer of lava to cool, forming an insulating shell where the inner layer still flows but people can get close to it relatively safely as long as they don't touch it, this is never seen in fiction where red-hot lava flows [[LavaIsBoilingKoolAid as free and exposed as river water]].

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[[LavaAddsAwesome As awesome as lava is,]] most TV writers and video game developers forget that "really hot" part. The hero is making his way through the LethalLavaLand, but wait! There are floating rocks, he can make it across to the other side! Except in the real world, the heat coming off of the lava would have cooked him already.[[note]] And if the lava is fresh enough, it's also releasing all sorts of interesting gases that do the human body no good to breathe, but that's wandering a bit from the subject.[[/note]] Put your hand above in front of an open flame and you have an idea of how hot that room, cave, or EternalEngine ''should'' be. While it's possible for the outer layer of lava to cool, forming an insulating shell where the inner layer still flows but people can get close to it relatively safely as long as they don't touch it, this is never seen in fiction where red-hot lava flows [[LavaIsBoilingKoolAid as free and exposed as river water]].
9th Feb '17 9:02:16 AM Sharlee
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* A healthy human being, if provided with heat-resistant footwear, can walk into an industrial-sized oven and remain there for several minutes without harm. They'll sweat like a pig, but so long as they don't get too dehydrated to perspire, they can stand there alongside baking bread or roasting meat, and shed the heat that's cooking their lunch. Way to go, homeostasis!
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