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3rd Dec '16 12:16:33 PM pinkdalek
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** Zack Fair from ''CrisisCore'' is more hotheaded, attitude-driven, laid back, and friendlier than the colder, thoughtful, insane Cloud Strife of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' fame. Various motifs are set up to contrast the two - Zack ''Fair'' and ''Cloud'' Strife, how the compassionate Zack uses the blunt edge of his blade while the intimidating Cloud always uses the sharp edge, and the AnimalMotif that compares Zack to a puppy and Cloud to a wolf.

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** Zack ''Compilation of Final Fantasy VII'':
***Zack
Fair from ''CrisisCore'' is more hotheaded, attitude-driven, laid back, and friendlier than the colder, thoughtful, insane Cloud Strife of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' fame. from the previous game. Various motifs are set up to contrast the two - Zack ''Fair'' and ''Cloud'' Strife, how the compassionate Zack uses the blunt edge of his blade while the intimidating Cloud always uses the sharp edge, and the AnimalMotif that compares Zack to a puppy and Cloud (in ''Anime/AdventChildren'') to a wolf.wolf.
***The main characters of the original ''VII'' are Cloud, Aeris, Tifa and Barret, with Cid getting a lot of important things to do towards the end. ''VideoGame/DirgeOfCerberus'''s protagonists are Vincent and Yuffie, who had been {{Optional Party Member}}s in the original, and Reeve, the alter ego of party member Cait Sith; Cloud, Barret and Tifa appear only in a brief cameo and get a couple of lines each.
2nd Dec '16 11:06:14 PM DuelMark
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** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Optimus is longtime leader of the Autobots who was stoic, wise, patient and respected by Autobot and Decepticon alike. ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRobotsInDisguise'': Bumblebee, who served under him in ''Prime'', is emotional, unsure, more used to being part of a team than leading one and frequently dealt with both disobedience and lack of respect early on.

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** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Optimus is longtime leader of the Autobots who was stoic, wise, patient and respected by Autobot and Decepticon alike. ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRobotsInDisguise'': Bumblebee, who served under him in ''Prime'', is emotional, unsure, more used to being part of a team than leading one and frequently dealt with both disobedience and lack of respect early on. He attempted to emulate Optimus once, but it went nowhere and Optimus told him that he needs to lead his team his own way.
2nd Dec '16 11:02:31 PM DuelMark
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* ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}:
** [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Optimus Prime]] and [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Optimus Primal]]. Both noble and brave leaders who do battle against a Transformer who goes by "Megatron" for the fate of the Earth. While Prime was seasoned leader of the Autobots, Primal had no military background and was the leader of a small crew of Maximals who only responded to Megatron's theft of the Golden Disk because they were the closest. Prime was a respected and idealized warrior who carried the Matrix of Leadership that gave him the collected wisdom of past Primes, Primal is more down to Earth while having his team question his orders or undermine him, though when he carried Optimus Prime's spark during the season 3 premiere, he started to exhibit more of Prime's personality.
** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Optimus is longtime leader of the Autobots who was stoic, wise, patient and respected by Autobot and Decepticon alike. ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRobotsInDisguise'': Bumblebee, who served under him in ''Prime'', is emotional, unsure, more used to being part of a team than leading one and frequently dealt with both disobedience and lack of respect early on.
2nd Dec '16 3:09:42 PM pinkdalek
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* Contrasting Prequel, but nonetheless, Zack Fair from ''CrisisCore'' is more hotheaded, attitude-driven, laid back, and friendlier than the colder, psychologically questionable, stoic Cloud Strife of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' fame.
* Cecil of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' was an emotional man atoning for the sins of his past, while Bartz of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is more of a laid back IdiotHero. Then Terra of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' was an emotionally damaged girl searching for her place in life, then Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and Squall of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' were [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice Kings]] with repressed or forgotten traumas that had turned them into stoic types, then Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', Tidus of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' and Vaan of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' were more friendly and confident heroes before reverting to a DefrostingIceQueen in Lightning for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. Finally, there's the [[HumbleHero humble]] [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething crown Prince]] Noctis of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' [[spoiler:who's actually the first one in the ''entire'' main franchise to die.]]

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* Contrasting Prequel, ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' likes to vary its tone a lot:
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasy'''s heroes were HeroicMime characters with [[HelloInsertNameHere no names]] and fixed Jobs, so ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'' stars a main character with a CanonName (Firion), flexible skills and a whole game mechanic based around talking. Then ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'' is back to using something in the middle - the characters have dialogue
but nonetheless, Zack Fair from ''CrisisCore'' is it isn't assigned to one character in particular, and while you can change their Jobs you are restricted to using specific Job classes instead of the more hotheaded, attitude-driven, laid back, and friendlier than the colder, psychologically questionable, stoic Cloud Strife of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' fame.
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flexible approach taken by Firion.
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Cecil of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' was is an emotional man atoning for the sins of his past, while a highly decorated soldier and has dramatic and intense relationships with his party members. Bartz of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is more of a laid back IdiotHero. Then Terra IdiotHero with no particular qualifications beyond birthright, who has a [[{{Bathos}} bickering, 'normal' relationship with his party members]].
**Terra
of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' was is an emotionally damaged girl searching for insecure former enslaved soldier, with amnesia from mind control, who has to come to terms with her place in life, then repressed inner strength to succeed. Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' is a traumatised young man and Squall swaggering former elite SOLDIER, who [[FakeMemories remembers too much]] due to mind control and has to come to terms with his repressed inner weakness to succeed.
**Squall
of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' were [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice Kings]] was intentionally written to be more 'human' and 'normal' than the ''FF'' heroes so far. Where Terra and Cloud's troubles are about self-identity, Squall's troubles are about his relationships with repressed or forgotten traumas that had turned them into stoic types, then Zidane his friends and family, with his teenage identity problems more in the background. Previous ''FF'' heroes (even the most everyman ones) existed strictly in a fantasy world, but Squall goes to high school, rents cars and reads his classmates' blog posts.
**Zidane
of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', Tidus of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' and Vaan of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' were more friendly and confident heroes before reverting to a DefrostingIceQueen in counter the brooding and insecure Terra, Cloud and Squall.
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Lightning for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. Finally, there's the [[HumbleHero humble]] [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething crown Prince]] Noctis of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' is back to being moody and serious, with elements of her character and look designed to be a DistaffCounterpart to Cloud and Squall.
**Noctis
of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' [[spoiler:who's actually has a MeaningfulName (Noctis Lucis Caelum) which is supposed to indicate his contrast to previous Creator/TetsuyaNomura-designed heroes - 'Lucis' (clear) to contrast with Cloud, and 'Noctis Caelum' (night heavens) to contrast with Sora (daytime sky).
** Zack Fair from ''CrisisCore'' is more hotheaded, attitude-driven, laid back, and friendlier than
the first one in colder, thoughtful, insane Cloud Strife of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' fame. Various motifs are set up to contrast the ''entire'' main franchise two - Zack ''Fair'' and ''Cloud'' Strife, how the compassionate Zack uses the blunt edge of his blade while the intimidating Cloud always uses the sharp edge, and the AnimalMotif that compares Zack to die.]]a puppy and Cloud to a wolf.
1st Dec '16 7:25:55 PM Daisy06
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* Cecil of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' was an emotional man atoning for the sins of his past, while Bartz of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is more of a laid back IdiotHero. Then Terra of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' was an emotionally damaged girl searching for her place in life, then Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and Squall of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' were [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice Kings]] with repressed or forgotten traumas that had turned them into stoic types, then Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', Tidus of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' and Vaan of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' were more friendly and confident heroes before reverting to a DefrostingIceQueen in Lightning for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. Finally, there's the [[HumbleHero humble]] [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething crown Prince]] Noctis of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' [[spoiler:who's actually the first one in the ''entire'' franchise to die.]]

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* Cecil of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' was an emotional man atoning for the sins of his past, while Bartz of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is more of a laid back IdiotHero. Then Terra of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' was an emotionally damaged girl searching for her place in life, then Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and Squall of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' were [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice Kings]] with repressed or forgotten traumas that had turned them into stoic types, then Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', Tidus of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' and Vaan of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' were more friendly and confident heroes before reverting to a DefrostingIceQueen in Lightning for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. Finally, there's the [[HumbleHero humble]] [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething crown Prince]] Noctis of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' [[spoiler:who's actually the first one in the ''entire'' main franchise to die.]]
1st Dec '16 7:24:49 PM Daisy06
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* Cecil of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' was an emotional man atoning for the sins of his past, while Bartz of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is more of a laid back IdiotHero. Then Terra of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' was an emotionally damaged girl searching for her place in life, then Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and Squall of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' were [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice Kings]] with repressed or forgotten traumas that had turned them into stoic types, then Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', Tidus of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' and Vaan of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' were more friendly and confident heroes before reverting to a DefrostingIceQueen in Lightning for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''.

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* Cecil of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' was an emotional man atoning for the sins of his past, while Bartz of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' is more of a laid back IdiotHero. Then Terra of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' was an emotionally damaged girl searching for her place in life, then Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' and Squall of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' were [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice Kings]] with repressed or forgotten traumas that had turned them into stoic types, then Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', Tidus of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' and Vaan of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' were more friendly and confident heroes before reverting to a DefrostingIceQueen in Lightning for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''. Finally, there's the [[HumbleHero humble]] [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething crown Prince]] Noctis of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'' [[spoiler:who's actually the first one in the ''entire'' franchise to die.]]
25th Nov '16 3:29:49 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** ''Manga/CMonDigimon'' has a supporting protagonist in Abe Makoto, while Yagami Taichi and Zermaru of ''Manga/DigimonVTamer01'' are clearly the front and center stars. The functional leads of "C Mon" are Kentaro Kamon, an aloof stoic, when the few triggers of his righteous temper are not hit, who wants nothing to do with animals or digimon, and Bun, a weak glitch "Damemon" or "Badmon" [[AllAnimalsAreDogs whose behavior is identical to a dog's]]. Lacking a troubled past like Kentaro, Taichi is a sociable goof absolutely in love with his digimon Zero, a powerful [[MythologyGag evolutionary throwback]] "glitch" monster who fancies himself a noble lord. Following this is Hikaru Ryuugi of ''Manga/DigimonDCyber'', who is an IdiotHero where Taichi was TheStrategist and his Dorumon partner is initially antagonistic towards him, and doesn't have a given name like Bun or Zero. Tsurugi Tatsuno of ''Manga/DigimonNext'' is an idiot like Hikaru, actively despising plans, but he's much better at raising and battling digimon than Hikaru, who was the worst tamer of his group. Hikaru's partner also becomes a Royal Knight, an upholder of Yggdrasil's law, while Tsurugi's is an illegal monster because it has the ability to defy and kill Yggdrasil.

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** ''Manga/CMonDigimon'' has a supporting protagonist in Abe Makoto, while Yagami Taichi and Zermaru of ''Manga/DigimonVTamer01'' are clearly the front and center stars. The functional leads of "C Mon" are Kentaro Kamon, an aloof stoic, when the few triggers of his righteous temper are not hit, who wants nothing to do with animals or digimon, and Bun, a weak glitch "Damemon" or "Badmon" [[AllAnimalsAreDogs whose behavior is identical to a dog's]]. Lacking a troubled past like Kentaro, Taichi is a sociable goof absolutely in love with his digimon Zero, a powerful [[MythologyGag evolutionary throwback]] "glitch" monster who fancies himself a noble lord. Following this is Hikaru Ryuugi of ''Manga/DigimonDCyber'', who is an IdiotHero where Taichi was TheStrategist and his Dorumon partner is initially antagonistic towards him, and doesn't have a given name like Bun or Zero. Tsurugi Tatsuno of ''Manga/DigimonNext'' is an idiot like Hikaru, actively despising plans, but he's much better at raising and battling digimon than Hikaru, who was the worst tamer of his group. Hikaru's partner also becomes a Royal Knight, an upholder of Yggdrasil's law, while Tsurugi's is an illegal monster because it has the ability to defy and kill Yggdrasil.
25th Nov '16 3:27:33 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** ''Manga/CMonDigimon'' has a supporting protagonist in Abe Makoto, while Yagami Taichi and Zermaru of ''Manga/DigimonVTamer01'' are clearly the front and center stars. The functional leads of "C Mon" are Kentaro Kamon, an aloof stoic, when the few triggers of his righteous temper are not hit, who wants nothing to do with animals or digimon, and Bun, a weak glitch "Damemon" or "Badmon" [[AllAnimalsAreDogs whose behavior is identical to a dog's]]. Lacking a troubled past like Kentaro, Taichi is a sociable goof absolutely in love with his digimon Zero, a powerful [[MythologyGag evolutionary throwback]] "glitch" monster who fancies himself a noble lord. Following this is Hikaru Ryuugi of ''Manga/DigimonDCyber'', who is an IdiotHero where Taichi was TheStrategist and his Dorumon partner is initially antagonistic towards him, and doesn't have a given name like Bun or Zero. Tsurugi Tatsuno of ''Manga/DigimonNext'' is an idiot like Hikaru, actively despising plans, but he's much better at raising and battling digimon than Hikaru, who was the worst tamer of his group. Hikaru's partner also becomes a Royal Knight, an upholder of Yggdrasil's law, while Tsurugi's is an illegal monster because it has the ability to defy and kill Yggdrasil.
22nd Nov '16 1:35:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* The DCExtendedUniverse version of Batman, compared to [[TheDarkKnightSaga the Christian Bale interpretation of the character]]. He's presented as an older, experienced Batman, whereas Bale's version had an entire film devoted to his origin. He also operates in a more fantastical world, and is less stringent about his ThouShallNotKill principle than Bale was.

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* The DCExtendedUniverse Film/DCExtendedUniverse version of Batman, compared to [[TheDarkKnightSaga [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga the Christian Bale interpretation of the character]]. He's presented as an older, experienced Batman, whereas Bale's version had an entire film devoted to his origin. He also operates in a more fantastical world, and is less stringent about his ThouShallNotKill principle than Bale was.
22nd Nov '16 1:34:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''Franchiae/{{Godzilla}}'' franchise has this with its title character: [[Film/{{Godzilla 1954}} the original Godzilla]] was a TragicMonster, the Showa incarnation was a villain who eventually let go of his anger and became a hero, the Hensei incarnation was an indifferent NoNonsenseNemesis, [[Film/{{Godzilla 2014}} the Legendary version]] doesn't even seem to hate or even bear a grudge against humanity (even going out his way to avoid hurting people deliberately) and Film/ShinGodzilla is one of the more malevolent incarnations.

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* The ''Franchiae/{{Godzilla}}'' ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' franchise has this with its title character: [[Film/{{Godzilla 1954}} the original Godzilla]] was a TragicMonster, the Showa incarnation was a villain who eventually let go of his anger and became a hero, the Hensei incarnation was an indifferent NoNonsenseNemesis, [[Film/{{Godzilla 2014}} the Legendary version]] doesn't even seem to hate or even bear a grudge against humanity (even going out his way to avoid hurting people deliberately) and Film/ShinGodzilla is one of the more malevolent incarnations.
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