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6th Jan '18 9:14:23 PM louisXVI
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* Due to the sheer length of time it's been on the air coupled with its ageless cast and focus on American cultural commentary, ''TheSimpsons'' has increasingly severe continuity problems regarding when the characters were born, what generation they belong to, etc. Early episodes, set in the early 1990s, established Marge and Homer as kids of the late 1950s baby boomers, basically with Bart and Lisa kids of the early 1980s. Early episodes flashbacks were completely unambiguous about this young Homer watching JFK on TV, Lisa's birth overlapping with the 1984 Olympics, etc. However, the show has survived for so long, it is now impossible to honor this past without absurdity Lisa cannot still be eight years old in the late 2010s if she was born in the 1980s, etc. Flashbacks in contemporary episodes now have to occur in some vague, unspecified "past" with decade-identifying details scrubbed, though this is not so easily done for certain characters for whom time-sensitive events are a big part of their identity: for example, Abe being a WWII vet, Seymour having served in Vietnam, Marge, Homer, and Artie Ziff having attended a very 60s prom, and so on. It seems many of these details are being quietly retired for snarl reasons.

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* Due to the sheer length of time it's been on the air coupled with its ageless cast and focus on American cultural commentary, ''TheSimpsons'' has increasingly severe continuity problems regarding when the characters were born, what generation they belong to, etc. Early episodes, set in the early 1990s, established Marge and Homer as kids of the late 1950s baby boomers, basically with Bart and Lisa kids of the early 1980s. Early episodes flashbacks were completely unambiguous about this young Homer watching JFK on TV, Lisa's birth overlapping with the 1984 Olympics, etc.and so on. However, the show has survived for so long, it is now impossible to honor this past without absurdity Lisa cannot still be eight years old in the late 2010s if she was born in the 1980s, etc. Flashbacks in contemporary episodes now have to occur in some vague, unspecified "past" with decade-identifying details scrubbed, though this is not so easily done for certain characters for whom time-sensitive events are a big part of their identity: for example, Abe being a WWII vet, Seymour having served in Vietnam, Marge, Homer, and Artie Ziff having attended a very 60s prom, and so on. prom to say nothing of Disco Stu! It seems many of these details are being quietly retired for snarl reasons.
6th Jan '18 9:11:49 PM louisXVI
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* Due to the sheer length of time it's been on the air coupled with its ageless cast and focus on American cultural commentary, ''TheSimpsons'' has increasingly severe continuity problems regarding when the characters were born, what generation they belong to, etc. Early episodes, set in the early 1990s, established Marge and Homer as kids of the late 1950s baby boomers, basically with Bart and Lisa kids of the early 1980s. Early episodes flashbacks were completely unambiguous about this young Homer watching JFK on TV, Lisa's birth overlapping with the 1984 Olympics, etc. However, the show has survived for so long, it is now impossible to honor this past without absurdity Lisa cannot still be eight years old in the late 2010s if she was born in the 1980s, etc. Flashbacks in contemporary episodes now have to occur in some vague, unspecified "past" with decade-identifying details scrubbed, though this is not so easily done for certain characters for whom time-sensitive events are a big part of their identity: for example, Abe being a WWII vet, Seymour having served in Vietnam, Marge, Homer, and Artie Ziff having attended a very 60s prom, and so on. It seems many of these details are being quietly retired for snarl reasons.
4th Jan '18 11:08:28 PM Lizardon
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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' continuity is very confusing for the simple reason that until ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'', we didn't have the whole picture, and, of the bits and pieces gotten, weren't told how they fit together[[note]]Before the official timeline was revealed, it was generally accepted that certain games could be grouped together (''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap The Minish Cap]]'' leading into the ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwords Four]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures Swords]]'' games, or ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' leading into ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'', for example); the problem for fans was sorting these groups into a viable chronology[[/note]], [[http://zeldawiki.org/Timeline_Theories leading to two decades of debate as to how to organize anything]]. The use of a TimeyWimeyBall in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' opened up the possibility that {{Alternate Timeline}}s were in play, and WordOfGod itself was contradictory. Franchise creator Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto, not all that concerned about the timeline due to feeling that stories in video games should be peripheral to the experience, [[ExcusePlot if existent at all]], seemed to endorse that the various games may be corrupted retellings of each other. Eiji Aonuma, who joined the Zelda team starting with ''Ocarina of Time'' and became series director shortly after, preferred there be a concrete timeline. Things were finally sorted out in late 2011 when the two laid down an official timeline in the ''Literature/HyruleHistoria'' artbook,[[note]]which, among other things, showed that things split into THREE timelines, not two as was previously thought, explaining why it was so darn difficult to figure out what went where[[/note]] but the confusion ''will'' return anew each and every time a new game is nearing release.

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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' continuity is very confusing for the simple reason that until ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'', we didn't have the whole picture, and, of the bits and pieces gotten, weren't told how they fit together[[note]]Before the official timeline was revealed, it was generally accepted that certain games could be grouped together (''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap The Minish Cap]]'' leading into the ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwords Four]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures Swords]]'' games, or ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' leading into ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'', for example); the problem for fans was sorting these groups into a viable chronology[[/note]], [[http://zeldawiki.org/Timeline_Theories leading to two decades of debate as to how to organize anything]].anything. The use of a TimeyWimeyBall in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' opened up the possibility that {{Alternate Timeline}}s were in play, and WordOfGod itself was contradictory. Franchise creator Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto, not all that concerned about the timeline due to feeling that stories in video games should be peripheral to the experience, [[ExcusePlot if existent at all]], seemed to endorse that the various games may be corrupted retellings of each other. Eiji Aonuma, who joined the Zelda team starting with ''Ocarina of Time'' and became series director shortly after, preferred there be a concrete timeline. Things were finally sorted out in late 2011 when the two laid down an official timeline in the ''Literature/HyruleHistoria'' artbook,[[note]]which, among other things, showed that things split into THREE timelines, not two as was previously thought, explaining why it was so darn difficult to figure out what went where[[/note]] but the confusion ''will'' return anew each and every time a new game is nearing release.
3rd Jan '18 7:55:11 AM Ansongc2000
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** A particularly embarrassing debate is the question of why Klingons look completely different in [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] to the rest. It was {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in one ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' episode, but deliberately wasn't explained (the ''[=DS9=]'' writers [[WordOfGod stated]] they realised any explanation, especially a virus-based one (which they had considered but abandoned) would be underwhelming, forced and ridiculous so decided to acknowledge it in a humorous way but not insult the fanbase with a horrible technobabble solution). ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' made it worse, with their ridged Klingons (so they had them, then lost them, then got them back?) and decided to create an explanation in the fourth season, which is when it ''truly'' remembers "we're a prequel series" and starts to tell the story of how the TOS-era TrekVerse came to be. [[spoiler: The TOS Klingons are the descendants of several Klingon colonies that got infected by a virus that caused a genetic mutation that made them look more human. Said virus was created by a Klingon scientist hoping to enhance Klingon soldiers using DNA from genetically engineered humans, after said genetically engineered humans 1) kicked their asses, 2) stole one of their ships, and 3) flew circles around the Earth Starfleet's flagship.]] Apparently, reconstructive surgery in the ''Enterprise'' episode suggests that individual gene therapy became possible between ENT and ''Deep Space Nine'', thus explaining Kang, Kor, and Koloth's sudden appearances of ridges in the latter, and also the appearance of ridged Klingons in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''. The video game ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' tries to fix this by explaining that B'Vat, a war-hungry Klingon from the 25th Century kidnapped Miral Paris, daughter of [[Series/StarTrekVoyager B'Elanna and Tom Paris]] and MessianicArchetype the Kuvah'magh, brought her to the 23rd Century and used her DNA to fix them.

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** A particularly embarrassing debate is the question of why Klingons look completely different in [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] to the rest. And a Klingon easily passing himself off as human was a plot point in one episode, so it can't be excused as SpecialEffectsFailure. It was {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in one ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'' episode, but deliberately wasn't explained (the ''[=DS9=]'' writers [[WordOfGod stated]] they realised any explanation, especially a virus-based one (which they had considered but abandoned) would be underwhelming, forced and ridiculous so decided to acknowledge it in a humorous way but not insult the fanbase with a horrible technobabble solution). ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' made it worse, with their ridged Klingons (so they had them, then lost them, then got them back?) and decided to create an explanation in the fourth season, which is when it ''truly'' remembers "we're a prequel series" and starts to tell the story of how the TOS-era TrekVerse came to be. [[spoiler: The TOS Klingons are the descendants of several Klingon colonies that got infected by a virus that caused a genetic mutation that made them look more human. Said virus was created by a Klingon scientist hoping to enhance Klingon soldiers using DNA from genetically engineered humans, after said genetically engineered humans 1) kicked their asses, 2) stole one of their ships, and 3) flew circles around the Earth Starfleet's flagship.]] Apparently, reconstructive surgery in the ''Enterprise'' episode suggests that individual gene therapy became possible between ENT and ''Deep Space Nine'', thus explaining Kang, Kor, and Koloth's sudden appearances of ridges in the latter, and also the appearance of ridged Klingons in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness''. The video game ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' tries to fix this by explaining that B'Vat, a war-hungry Klingon from the 25th Century kidnapped Miral Paris, daughter of [[Series/StarTrekVoyager B'Elanna and Tom Paris]] and MessianicArchetype the Kuvah'magh, brought her to the 23rd Century and used her DNA to fix them.
29th Dec '17 2:23:06 PM Iampureevil
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* The VideoGame/StarRevenge series of VideoGame/SuperMario64 ROM hacks. Seriously, just [[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzs1FL5re-t2R3JtbG5lSFFUTXc/view look at this]]. A lot of the confusion comes from remakes of the games having different stories than the original and the story splitting between both versions. Also, TimeTravel is involved. The timeline is a mess and that picture even {{Lampshades}} it. [[note]] Furthermore, notice how [=SR6.9=] happens multiple times[[/note]]
11th Dec '17 1:55:53 PM PDL
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*** The postgame features a different side story: Episode Rainbow Rocket. [[spoiler: Using Ultra Wormholes, Team Rainbow Rocket is comprised of all the Team Leaders from the past main games who come from universes where they won, all lead by Giovanni. This includes Maxine and Archie, who have their original ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' designs as opposed to the "Mega Timeline" versions.]]
*** Ultra Space is more explorable [[spoiler: Its made up of both distant planets, {{Alternate Dimension}}s and {{Alternate Universe}}s, including one that's a version of Hau'Oli City that's been [[ApocalypseHow hit with a nuclear meltdown]].]] You can also find regular Pokémon and Legendary Pokémon from past games in these Ultra Spaces, but no explanation is given as to how they got there.
11th Dec '17 1:40:21 PM PDL
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*** Lastly, ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'' have been released on the UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and the Pokémon obtained in these games can be transferred to ''Sun and Moon'' via ''Pokémon Bank''. Making the original Gen 1 games compatible (and therefore canon) with the rest of the series from Gen III onward.

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*** Lastly, ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'' have been released on the UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and the Pokémon obtained in these games can be transferred to ''Sun and Moon'' via ''Pokémon Bank''. Making the original Gen 1 games compatible (and therefore canon) with the rest of the series from Gen III onward. Later releases of ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' for the Virtual Console would also bring the original Gen 2 games into the mix as well.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'', which are kind of the third version but not quite (since its still a pair of games rather then a single definitive version of the generation) is another kettle of fish entirely. This game is considered to be an "alternate retelling" of the base Sun and Moon games. It starts off similarly, but it veers off the rails here and there:
*** The biggest difference is the appearance of the Ultra Recon Squad, a group of [[spoiler: {{Human Like Alien}}s]] who come from Ultra Space. [[spoiler: Necrozma, who is a Pokémon that comes from Ultra Space (or their part of Ultra Space) is threatening to consume all the light in the universe. Necrozma eventually takes over as the main antagonistic force in these games rather then Lusamine.]]
11th Dec '17 1:18:37 PM Starshock
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*** According to Creator/PeterDavid, Lancelot was "the first Mary Sue." This certainly explains his (or rather his reincarnation's) treatment in Knight Life.
*** And Morgan Le Fey -- once she made the CrossOver and stuck, having originally been from the Matter of France -- went from being a benevolent sorceress who had saved Arthur's life on multiple occasions to a vindictive {{yandere}} bent on breaking up Arthur/Guinevere to the mother of the BigBad to the BigBad herself. And even after Mordred was {{retcon}}ned into being her son, he originally wasn't fathered by Arthur. And then the whole BrotherSisterIncest thing got added in.

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*** **** According to Creator/PeterDavid, Lancelot was "the first Mary Sue." This certainly explains his (or rather his reincarnation's) treatment in Knight Life.
*** And Morgan Le Fey -- once she made the CrossOver and stuck, having originally been from the Matter of France -- went from being a benevolent sorceress who had saved Arthur's life on multiple occasions to a vindictive {{yandere}} bent on breaking up Arthur/Guinevere to the mother of the BigBad to the BigBad herself. And even after Mordred was {{retcon}}ned into being her son, he originally wasn't fathered by Arthur. And then the whole BrotherSisterIncest thing got added in.
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** And Morgan Le Fey -- once she made the CrossOver and stuck, having originally been from the Matter of France -- went from being a benevolent sorceress who had saved Arthur's life on multiple occasions to a vindictive {{yandere}} bent on breaking up Arthur/Guinevere to the mother of the BigBad to the BigBad herself. And even after Mordred was {{retcon}}ned into being her son, he originally wasn't fathered by Arthur. And then the whole BrotherSisterIncest thing got added in.


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** Then there's Elaine of Astolat AKA the Lady of Shalott. Half the time she's an innocent maiden who falls in love with Lancelot and then dies of heartbreak. The other half she's still a maiden who falls in love with Lancelot, but instead of being innocent she forces herself of Lancelot with the help of magic and then bears his son.
10th Dec '17 4:55:48 PM merotoker
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* ''Anime/EurekaSevenAO'''s entire backstory. ''(deep breath)'' Eureka is clearly from the original, yet the spec2 she pilots is the movie iteration (the original never had shoulder-mounted lasers). She's also piloting the spec2 well after it should have evolved and subsequently vanished, alongside Renton in the evolved version, and there's no explanation as to where she got this one. TheEnd is in Generation Bleu's basement, intact and in its white color scheme,[[spoiler: although shortly after being freed from said basement it gets vaporized by an IFO [[AssPull that comes out of nowhere]]]]. Oh and at the end of the anime [[spoiler: Renton is piloting the Nirvash's final form from the movie adaptation.]] None of this is ever sufficiently explained. Although since the continuity with the original show and/or movie makes no sense, it can't be in the continuity of the original show. You're welcome.

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* ''Anime/EurekaSevenAO'''s entire backstory. ''(deep breath)'' Eureka is clearly from the original, yet the spec2 she pilots is the movie iteration (the original never had shoulder-mounted lasers). She's also piloting the spec2 well after it should have evolved and subsequently vanished, alongside Renton in the evolved version, and there's no explanation as to where she got this one. TheEnd is in Generation Bleu's basement, intact and in its white color scheme,[[spoiler: although shortly after being freed from said basement it gets vaporized by an IFO [[AssPull that comes out of nowhere]]]]. Oh and at the end of the anime [[spoiler: Renton is piloting the Nirvash's final form from the movie adaptation.]] adaptation]]. None of this is ever sufficiently explained. Although since the continuity with the original show and/or movie makes no sense, it can't be in the continuity of the original show. You're welcome.



* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' has some of these, particularly concerning Jessie, James, and Meowth. This can overlap with MultipleChoicePast.
** Also Brock's mother. The Japanese original said both parents had abandoned Brock to raise his younger siblings, but the English dub gave him an absentee father and a dead mother - awkward when his Mom shows up in a later season.
* Like ''Digimon'' below, ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}'' has clearly stated AlternateContinuity, and it's actually a bit milder here--the different continuities begin to form after the stories that compromise the first eight [[LightNovel books]], or the first two seasons of the anime, both of which are similar enough to avoid too much confusion. It's still complicated, however:
** In the novels, Lina actually meets Amelia's father, Prince Phil, and gets involved with his family feud ''before'' the series proper--the story of the first ''Slayers Special'' novel was transferred into the middle of the anime's first season: the same plot occurs, but Lina actually meets Amelia, and it goes from there. Also, the Atlas City story occurred right after the very first fight with [[BigBad Shabranigdo]], but the anime cuts to the aforementioned family feud, and the Atlas City story occurs during the second season. This makes little sense in context because in both the first book and the first episode, Lina is on her way to the city. Finally, Amelia appears after the battle with [[BetaBaddie Copy Rezo]] in the novels, appearing in another Saillune royal family plot that was ''also'' implemented in the second anime season. Because she joins Lina earlier in the anime, she is with them during the Copy Rezo fight, and also meets Zelgadis earlier on.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' has some of these, particularly concerning Jessie, James, and Meowth. This can overlap with MultipleChoicePast.
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MultipleChoicePast. Also Brock's mother. The Japanese original said both parents had abandoned Brock to raise his younger siblings, but the English dub gave him an absentee father and a dead mother - awkward when his Mom shows up in a later season.
* Like ''Digimon'' below, ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}'' has clearly stated AlternateContinuity, and it's actually a bit milder here--the different continuities begin to form after the stories that compromise the first eight [[LightNovel [[LightNovels books]], or the first two seasons of the anime, both of which are similar enough to avoid too much confusion. It's still complicated, however:
** In the novels, Lina actually meets Amelia's father, Prince Phil, and gets involved with his family feud ''before'' the series proper--the story of the first ''Slayers Special'' novel was transferred into the middle of the anime's first season: the same plot occurs, but Lina actually meets Amelia, and it goes from there. Also, the Atlas City story occurred right after the very first fight with [[BigBad Shabranigdo]], but the anime cuts to the aforementioned family feud, and the Atlas City story occurs during the second season. This makes little sense in context because in both the first book and the first episode, Lina is on her way to the city. Finally, Amelia appears after the battle with [[BetaBaddie [[BetaTestBaddie Copy Rezo]] in the novels, appearing in another Saillune royal family plot that was ''also'' implemented in the second anime season. Because she joins Lina earlier in the anime, she is with them during the Copy Rezo fight, and also meets Zelgadis earlier on.



** It's general accepted the original movies with Connor (save for [=HL2=]) are a seperate timeline from The Series.

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** It's general accepted the original movies with Connor (save for [=HL2=]) are a seperate separate timeline from The Series.



** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' reveals that it took roughly 20 years to build the Death Star (from the time Luke and Leia are born, a rough frame of the structure is being built) without anyone realizing it. In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the Death Star II only takes 3-4 years to be fully functional and mostly-built. The [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin apty-named]] novel "Death Star" tries to address this, going over numerous problems that came up over the course of its construction (including at least one instance of the superlaser having to be stripped out and redesigned). Death Star II, despite being somewhere between 2 and 20 times larger than Death Star I (depending on the source), could be built much more quickly because by that point the Empire actually ''knew how to build a Death Star''. Gets a possibly unintended lampshade when an Imperial officer complains about the speed at which he's expected to finish the project. Making it worse is that in the original Expanded Universe (written before the prequels) there was a prototype built in the secret Maw Installation (having nothing to do with the Geneocians) before work on Death Star 1 ever started. It's later established in ''Film/RogueOne'' that Galan Erso deliberately dragged out the process for a long as he could, and [[spoiler: include that infamous exhaust port in the design.]]

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** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' reveals that it took roughly 20 years to build the Death Star (from the time Luke and Leia are born, a rough frame of the structure is being built) without anyone realizing it. In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the Death Star II only takes 3-4 years to be fully functional and mostly-built. The [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin apty-named]] novel "Death Star" tries to address this, going over numerous problems that came up over the course of its construction (including at least one instance of the superlaser having to be stripped out and redesigned). Death Star II, despite being somewhere between 2 and 20 times larger than Death Star I (depending on the source), could be built much more quickly because by that point the Empire actually ''knew how to build a Death Star''. Gets a possibly unintended lampshade when an Imperial officer complains about the speed at which he's expected to finish the project. Making it worse is that in the original Expanded Universe (written before the prequels) there was a prototype built in the secret Maw Installation (having nothing to do with the Geneocians) before work on Death Star 1 ever started. It's later established in ''Film/RogueOne'' that Galan Erso deliberately dragged out the process for a long as he could, and [[spoiler: include that infamous exhaust port in the design.]] design]].



* ''Series/{{Smallville}}''

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* ''Series/ICarly'', ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'', and Series/{{Victorious}} share [[TheVerse a universe]]. ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' is a piece of RecursiveCanon in that universe, and has Drake Bell the actor (not Drake Parker the character), show up in ''Zoey 101''. Then in "iStart A Fan War", an episode of ''Series/ICarly'', they include a cameo by a pair of ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' characters. One episode even has Carly and Spencer watching an episode of ''Drake & Josh'', and the ''Series/{{Victorious}}'' episode "Who Did It To Trina" explicitly states that ''Drake & Josh'' is a TV show. Even though the episode before it had Helen, one of the main characters ''from'' ''Drake & Josh'' appear and reference characters from ''Drake & Josh''.

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* ''Series/ICarly'', ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'', and Series/{{Victorious}} ''Series/{{Victorious}}'' share [[TheVerse [[Series/NickVerse a universe]]. universe]] resulting in a CelebrityParadox. ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' is a piece of RecursiveCanon in that universe, and has Drake Bell Creator/DrakeBell the actor (not Drake Parker the character), show up in ''Zoey 101''. Then in "iStart A Fan War", an episode of ''Series/ICarly'', they include a cameo by a pair of ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' characters. One episode even has Carly and Spencer watching an episode of ''Drake & Josh'', and the ''Series/{{Victorious}}'' episode "Who Did It To Trina" explicitly states that ''Drake & Josh'' is a TV show. Even though the episode before it had Helen, one of the main characters ''from'' ''Drake & Josh'' appear and reference characters from ''Drake & Josh''.



* ''{{Series/Charmed}}'' was notorious for its numerous continuity errors, especially in the sixth season, whiChris Perry - a KidFromTheFuture - appeared to stop the Titans from conquering the world. When he gets his origin episode in season 6, there is no mention about the Titans [[spoiler: and his brother Wyatt is the BigBad in the future]]. He also orbs into the attic in his debut episode but this shows him going back in time via a portal in the attic wall. Additionally his hair was short when he arrived on the show but the actor grew it long for season 6 - and it's the same in his origin episode.

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* ''{{Series/Charmed}}'' was notorious for its numerous continuity errors, especially in the sixth season, whiChris where Chris Perry - a KidFromTheFuture - appeared to stop the Titans from conquering the world. When he gets his origin episode in season 6, there is no mention about the Titans [[spoiler: and his brother Wyatt is the BigBad in the future]]. He also orbs into the attic in his debut episode but this shows him going back in time via a portal in the attic wall. Additionally his hair was short when he arrived on the show but the actor grew it long for season 6 - and it's the same in his origin episode.



* What were the circumstances surrounding the death of [[TheBible Goliath?]] The story as generally remembered is that David was a shepherd boy bringing food to his brothers in Saul's army when he heard of Goliath's challenge to single combat, introduced himself to Saul, and volunteered to fight... except that he was already serving Saul at this point as a musician and armour bearer; Saul should have known who he was and he should have been with his king in the first place. While all this just comes from the first book of Samuel, the second book of Samuel mentions how Goliath was killed by someone called Elhanan...

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* What were the circumstances surrounding the death of [[TheBible [[Literature/TheBible Goliath?]] The story as generally remembered is that David was a shepherd boy bringing food to his brothers in Saul's army when he heard of Goliath's challenge to single combat, introduced himself to Saul, and volunteered to fight... except that he was already serving Saul at this point as a musician and armour bearer; Saul should have known who he was and he should have been with his king in the first place. While all this just comes from the first book of Samuel, the second book of Samuel mentions how Goliath was killed by someone called Elhanan...



* Wrestling/{{WCW}}'s Black Scorpion was allegedly someone out of Wrestling/{{Sting}}'s past. It was going to be the Ultimate Warrior, but there was a small problem Warrior didn't work for WCW at the time. After months of waiting, and literally dozens of people showing up under the mask, they finally made Wrestling/RicFlair the "real" Black Scorpion. The kicker? The Black Scorpion was created to give Sting an opponent ''other than Ric Flair.''

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* Wrestling/{{WCW}}'s Black Scorpion was allegedly someone out of Wrestling/{{Sting}}'s past. It was going to be the Ultimate Warrior, Wrestling/UltimateWarrior, but there was a small problem Warrior didn't work for WCW at the time. After months of waiting, and literally dozens of people showing up under the mask, they finally made Wrestling/RicFlair the "real" Black Scorpion. The kicker? The Black Scorpion was created to give Sting an opponent ''other than Ric Flair.''



** Another big snarl is that at the end of ''[[VideoGame/MortalKombat2 MKII]]'', Shao Kahn is KilledOffForReal, but in ''3'' he returns alive and well to take over the world.

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** Another big snarl is that at the end of ''[[VideoGame/MortalKombat2 MKII]]'', Shao Kahn is KilledOffForReal, but in ''3'' [[UnexplainedRecovery he returns alive alive]] and well to take over the world.



* ''Franchise/StreetFighter'': In fairness, a lot of it is because ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterII II]]'' become an iconic landmark revolutionary sea-changing event of events which changed the universe forever and ever (to the point where pretty much everyone [[CapcomSequelStagnation got plain sick of it]]). If this weren't the case, Capcom ''probably'' would've just relished their success and quietly released ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Alpha]]'' as a fun, inconsequential one-off featuring the unselectable fighters in [[VideoGame/StreetFighterI the first game]], then made a full break with ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIII III]]''. As it is, ''II'' and its continuity has reached such an enormous Shuma-Gorathian level that it's ''dragged the rest of the ''Street Fighter'' universe into it''. Hence, ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIV''. With Makoto, Dudley, and Ibuki (and now Yun and Yang) at the same age and with the same motivations as in a game that canonically isn't supposed to happen for at least another three years. With a hopelessly convoluted plot involving M. Bison ([[spoiler:who ''does'' die for real [[VideoGame/StreetFighterV eventually]]]]) and a Korean hellion we've never even heard about before. With Adon seemingly stuck in the distant past. With Rose around for no apparent reason. Before, there would be retcons; now, Capcom isn't even trying to hash it out anymore.

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* ''Franchise/StreetFighter'': In fairness, a lot of it is because ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterII II]]'' become an iconic landmark revolutionary sea-changing event of events which changed the universe forever and ever (to the point where pretty much everyone [[CapcomSequelStagnation got plain sick of it]]). If this weren't the case, Capcom Creator/{{Capcom}} ''probably'' would've just relished their success and quietly released ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha Alpha]]'' as a fun, inconsequential one-off featuring the unselectable fighters in [[VideoGame/StreetFighterI the first game]], then made a full break with ''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIII III]]''. As it is, ''II'' and its continuity has reached such an enormous Shuma-Gorathian level that it's ''dragged the rest of the ''Street Fighter'' universe into it''. Hence, ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIV''. With Makoto, Dudley, and Ibuki (and now Yun and Yang) at the same age and with the same motivations as in a game that canonically isn't supposed to happen for at least another three years. With a hopelessly convoluted plot involving M. Bison ([[spoiler:who ''does'' die for real [[VideoGame/StreetFighterV eventually]]]]) and a Korean hellion we've never even heard about before. With Adon seemingly stuck in the distant past. With Rose around for no apparent reason. Before, there would be retcons; now, Capcom isn't even trying to hash it out anymore.



* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':



* ''Franchise/TheSims'' has suffered more and more continuity errors with each new installment of the game.

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* ''Franchise/TheSims'' ''VideoGame/TheSims'' has suffered more and more continuity errors with each new installment of the game.



* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' originally started off as a direct sequel to the events of [=MSX2=] games ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'' with a few slight retcons, but as the series went on the retcons started piling up. Most notably with ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', which contradicted most of the backstory that was established in ''Metal Gear 2'', specifically Big Boss's military history prior to the MSX games (including the moment when he lost his eye) and his age (previous games established he was born during the 1920s, when he wasn't even 30 yet in 1964).

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* ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' originally started off as a direct sequel to the events of [=MSX2=] games ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' ''VideoGame/MetalGear1'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'' with a few slight retcons, but as the series went on the retcons started piling up. Most notably with ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', which contradicted most of the backstory that was established in ''Metal Gear 2'', specifically Big Boss's military history prior to the MSX games (including the moment when he lost his eye) and his age (previous games established he was born during the 1920s, when he wasn't even 30 yet in 1964).



** It doesn't help that the series itself is retconning a fair amount of older series, such as many of the ''[[Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries Republic Commando]]'' novels.

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** It doesn't help that the series itself is retconning a fair amount of older series, such as many of the ''[[Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries Republic Commando]]'' ''Literature/{{Republic Commando|Series}}'' novels.



* The Franchise/{{DCAU}} has a couple because of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'':

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* The Franchise/{{DCAU}} Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse has a couple because of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'':
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* The Nibelheim incident in the ''Compilation of VideoGame/FinalFatasyVII''. The original game alone provides about three different versions of the event because of the poeple involved [[spoiler:Cloud's memories are messed up, Sephiroth deliberately manipulates him and Tifa doesn't know all the details]]. While at some point we DO get what seems to be what actually happened, when the other parts compilation retell the events each version is different and multiple details don't match up. For example in ''[[Anime/LastOrderFinalFantasyVII Last Order]]'' [[spoiler: Sephiroth deliberatly jumped into Mako shaft]] while every other version has [[spoiler:him thrown into it by Cloud]], while ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' has Genesis present during the events, something that doesn't happen in any other version.

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* The Nibelheim incident in the ''Compilation of VideoGame/FinalFatasyVII''.VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''. The original game alone provides about three different versions of the event because of the poeple involved [[spoiler:Cloud's memories are messed up, Sephiroth deliberately manipulates him and Tifa doesn't know all the details]]. While at some point we DO get what seems to be what actually happened, when the other parts compilation retell the events each version is different and multiple details don't match up. For example in ''[[Anime/LastOrderFinalFantasyVII Last Order]]'' [[spoiler: Sephiroth deliberatly jumped into Mako shaft]] while every other version has [[spoiler:him thrown into it by Cloud]], while ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' has Genesis present during the events, something that doesn't happen in any other version.
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