History Main / ConservationofNinjutsu

25th May '16 11:03:33 AM NoSpoilerz
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See also TooManyCooksSpoilTheSoup, StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, FixedRelativeStrength and TheWorfEffect. Compare ConservationOfCompetence and KillOneOthersGetStronger. This trope is a reason the ZergRush may fail. Beware, however, in case RealityEnsues, and this trope ''[[WrongGenreSavvy doesn't]]'' apply. If the system ''doesn't'' use this, TheMinionMaster will capitalize on it, as will the WolfpackBoss. Contrast EliteArmy ("in that the one {{Ninja}} is a deadly threat", while an army of them are [[BadassArmy almost invincible]].) and OneManArmy (for characters who are strong enough to take on large numbers of enemies). An aversion may result in a BolivianArmyEnding.

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See also TooManyCooksSpoilTheSoup, StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, FixedRelativeStrength and TheWorfEffect. Compare ConservationOfCompetence and KillOneOthersGetStronger. This trope is a reason the ZergRush may fail. Beware, however, in case RealityEnsues, and this trope ''[[WrongGenreSavvy doesn't]]'' apply. If the system ''doesn't'' use this, TheMinionMaster will capitalize on it, as will the WolfpackBoss. Contrast EliteArmy ("in (in that the one {{Ninja}} is a deadly threat", threat while an army of them are [[BadassArmy almost invincible]].) and OneManArmy (for characters who are strong enough to take on large numbers of enemies). An aversion may result in a BolivianArmyEnding.
25th May '16 11:02:40 AM NoSpoilerz
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See also TooManyCooksSpoilTheSoup, StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, FixedRelativeStrength and TheWorfEffect. Compare ConservationOfCompetence and KillOneOthersGetStronger. This trope is a reason the ZergRush may fail. Beware, however, in case RealityEnsues, and this trope ''[[WrongGenreSavvy doesn't]]'' apply. If the system ''doesn't'' use this, TheMinionMaster will capitalize on it, as will the WolfpackBoss. Contrast EliteArmy ("in the that one {{Ninja}} is a deadly threat", while an army of them are [[BadassArmy almost invincible]].) and OneManArmy (for characters who are strong enough to take on large numbers of enemies). An aversion may result in a BolivianArmyEnding.

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See also TooManyCooksSpoilTheSoup, StrongAsTheyNeedToBe, FixedRelativeStrength and TheWorfEffect. Compare ConservationOfCompetence and KillOneOthersGetStronger. This trope is a reason the ZergRush may fail. Beware, however, in case RealityEnsues, and this trope ''[[WrongGenreSavvy doesn't]]'' apply. If the system ''doesn't'' use this, TheMinionMaster will capitalize on it, as will the WolfpackBoss. Contrast EliteArmy ("in the that the one {{Ninja}} is a deadly threat", while an army of them are [[BadassArmy almost invincible]].) and OneManArmy (for characters who are strong enough to take on large numbers of enemies). An aversion may result in a BolivianArmyEnding.
3rd Sep '15 9:53:57 AM DoorIntoSummer
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In other words, if Team Meager is up against Team Gargantuan, we probably know something about Team Meager and at least care how well they're going to do in this fight—maybe we even outright sympathize with them and root for them to win. Team Gargantuan, on the other hand, is likely a [[FacelessGoons faceless]] blob of {{Mooks}} or {{Red Shirt}}s that we [[WhatMeasureIsAMook don't care about on any personal level]]. Letting Team Gargantuan steamroll over Team Meager in this scenario would be [[AntiClimax anticlimactic]]; ''not'' letting Team Gargantuan do that means playing this trope straight almost by definition. Often Team Gargantuan instead of applying their numbers, [[ChinMusicLineDance tends to get in line]] waiting to get beat in turn.

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In other words, if Team Meager is up against Team Gargantuan, we probably know something about Team Meager and at least care how well they're going to do in this fight—maybe we even outright sympathize with them and root for them to win. Team Gargantuan, on the other hand, is likely a [[FacelessGoons faceless]] blob of {{Mooks}} or {{Red Shirt}}s that we [[WhatMeasureIsAMook don't care about on any personal level]]. Letting Team Gargantuan steamroll over Team Meager in this scenario would be [[AntiClimax anticlimactic]]; ''not'' letting Team Gargantuan do that means playing this trope straight almost by definition. Often Team Gargantuan instead of applying their numbers, [[ChinMusicLineDance [[MookChivalry tends to get in line]] waiting to get beat in turn.
11th Aug '15 12:02:21 AM mdizzy
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In other words, if Team Meager is up against Team Gargantuan, we probably know something about Team Meager and at least care how well they're going to do in this fight—maybe we even outright sympathize with them and root for them to win. Team Gargantuan, on the other hand, is likely a [[FacelessGoons faceless]] blob of {{Mooks}} or {{Red Shirt}}s that we [[WhatMeasureIsAMook don't care about on any personal level]]. Letting Team Gargantuan steamroll over Team Meager in this scenario would be [[AntiClimax anticlimactic]]; ''not'' letting Team Gargantuan do that means playing this trope straight almost by definition.

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In other words, if Team Meager is up against Team Gargantuan, we probably know something about Team Meager and at least care how well they're going to do in this fight—maybe we even outright sympathize with them and root for them to win. Team Gargantuan, on the other hand, is likely a [[FacelessGoons faceless]] blob of {{Mooks}} or {{Red Shirt}}s that we [[WhatMeasureIsAMook don't care about on any personal level]]. Letting Team Gargantuan steamroll over Team Meager in this scenario would be [[AntiClimax anticlimactic]]; ''not'' letting Team Gargantuan do that means playing this trope straight almost by definition.
definition. Often Team Gargantuan instead of applying their numbers, [[ChinMusicLineDance tends to get in line]] waiting to get beat in turn.
9th May '15 10:06:57 PM Willbyr
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30th Mar '15 2:07:45 PM Hailfire25
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->"You need to work together. If you don't, your numbers become my advantage."
-->-- Malcolm stating to Oliver and Thea how the ConservationOfNinjutsu works in ''Seris/{{Arrow}}''.
30th Mar '15 2:07:26 PM Hailfire25
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->"You need to work together. If you don't, your numbers become my advantage."
-->-- Malcolm stating to Oliver and Thea how the ConservationOfNinjutsu works in ''Seris/{{Arrow}}''.
28th Jul '14 11:57:33 PM FastEddie
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NOTE: This obviously does not apply when the hero had some superior advantage against a big group (like, say, magic powers or a huge machine gun) and then lost it and had to go hand-to-hand for the last few guys. Let's not get carried away.

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NOTE: This obviously does not apply when the hero had some superior advantage against a big group (like, say, magic powers or a huge machine gun) and then lost it and had to go hand-to-hand for the last few guys. Let's not get carried away.
28th Jul '14 10:59:53 PM FordPrefect
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* One more plausible scenario for this trope is if a smaller group of people is simply better coordinated than an larger group of opponents, and tries to stack the odds in their favour, however they can--cutting off paths for reinforcements, luring enemies into ambushes or traps, or disrupting their communications. This relies heavily on the element of surprise, as well as considerable planning and ability to adapt to situations on the fly, and would be considerably more effective if the group had some of the previously-mentioned advantages. In any case, if the element of surprise is lost or if the plan starts to fall apart, you can expect things to get very bad.

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* One more plausible scenario for this trope is if a smaller group of people is simply better coordinated than an a larger group of opponents, and tries to stack the odds in their favour, however they can--cutting off paths for reinforcements, luring enemies into ambushes or traps, or disrupting their communications. This relies heavily on the element of surprise, as well as considerable planning and ability to adapt to situations on the fly, and would be considerably more effective if the group had some of the previously-mentioned advantages. In any case, if the element of surprise is lost or if the plan starts to fall apart, you can expect things to get very bad.
26th May '14 1:14:25 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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NOTE: This obviously does not apply when the hero had some superior advantage against a big group (like, say, a gun or magic powers) and then lost it and had to go hand-to-hand for the last few guys. Let's not get carried away.

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NOTE: This obviously does not apply when the hero had some superior advantage against a big group (like, say, a gun or magic powers) powers or a huge machine gun) and then lost it and had to go hand-to-hand for the last few guys. Let's not get carried away.
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