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3rd Dec '16 5:59:47 AM cherrychels
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** Like in canon, Theon has this between his Iron Born family and his mainlander friends. Unlike in canon, however, [[spoiler: he chooses his friends]].

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** Like in canon, Theon has experiences this conflict between his Iron Born family and his mainlander friends. Unlike in canon, however, [[spoiler: he chooses his friends]].



* This is a major problem for undercover LAPD Officer Brian O'Connor in the first ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'' movie, assigned to get evidence against Dominic Toretto and his team who are truck jackers. He ends up falling for Toretto's sister and becomes Toretto's friend. In the end, he chooses to let Toretto go.

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* This is a major problem for undercover LAPD Officer Brian O'Connor in the first ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'' movie, who is assigned to get obtain evidence against Dominic Toretto and his team who are of truck jackers. He ends up falling for Toretto's sister and becomes Toretto's friend. In the end, he chooses to let Toretto go.



** Two books later, his son faces the dilemma as well. [[spoiler:He must choose between a vow he'd made to take a wife from one of his bannermen or to protect the honor of a girl he slept with. He chooses to protect the girl's honor, but not without vast, far-reaching consequences.]]
** Jaime Lannister is known across Westeros as the [[TheOathbreaker Kingslayer]] for killing the king he swore to protect. Once the readers get to know him, they learn that Jaime can actually be very loyal, if his loyalty is earned. (Or if [[FoolForLove you sleep with him enough]].) When he killed the king, he chose between his duty to his king and to his father and family; the fact that choosing his family also meant saving thousands of innocent lives is what tipped the balance. He also debates with a fellow Kingsguard whether their vow to protect the royal family extends to [[MaritalRapeLicense protecting the Queen from the King]].

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** Two books later, his son faces In order to gain the dilemma as well. [[spoiler:He political support of the Freys, Robb [[spoiler:vows to marry a daughter from the Frey family. However, when he sleeps with a girl while he is pledged to the Frey daughter, he must choose between a to either keep his vow he'd made to take a wife from one of his bannermen marry the Frey daughter or to protect the honor of a girl he slept with. He chooses to protect the girl's honor, but not without vast, honor and breaks his oath to the Freys -- resulting in far-reaching consequences.]]
** Jaime Lannister is known across Westeros as the [[TheOathbreaker Kingslayer]] for killing the king he swore to protect. Once the readers get to know him, they learn that Jaime can actually be very loyal, if his loyalty is earned. (Or if [[FoolForLove you sleep with him enough]].) When he killed the king, he chose between his duty to his king and to his father and family; family. Also, the fact that choosing his family also meant saving thousands of innocent lives is what tipped the balance.balance for him. He also debates with a fellow Kingsguard whether their vow to protect the royal family extends to [[MaritalRapeLicense protecting the Queen from the King]].



** Jon Snow gets this a few times. At first it's always between the Watch and something else: family, love, home, friends. In the first book, he has a conversation with Maester Aemon about this conflict. Later, once [[spoiler:he becomes Lord Commander]], it's between his commitment not to interfere in the affairs of the realm and his desire to protect innocents and right wrongs.

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** Jon Snow gets this a few times. At first first, it's always between the Watch and something else: family, love, his [[RelativeButton family]] he loves, the girl he loves, his home, his friends. In the first book, he has a conversation with Maester Aemon about this conflict.conflict, who once faced the very same situation Jon does. Later, once [[spoiler:he becomes Lord Commander]], it's between his commitment not to interfere in the affairs of the realm and his desire to protect innocents and right wrongs.
30th Nov '16 9:21:32 PM Renicula
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* Lancelot in ''VideoGame/{{Guenevere}}'' is (like his [[KingArthur classical inspiration]]) torn between his loyalty to KingArthur and his love for Arthur's wife.
** Guen herself can be played as dutiful and dedicated to being a good wife and queen, but still in love with Lance or Arthur's sister Morgana.
23rd Nov '16 6:52:05 AM MsZephy7
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* In the anime/manga of ''Literature/TheHeroicLegendOfArslan'', Bahman was conflicted after receiving a letter from commander-in-chief Vahriz about [[spoiler: the possibility that Arslan isn't of royal blood]] and finding out that [[spoiler: Silvermask is the former Prince Hermes]]. He was torn between wanting to support [[spoiler: Prince Hermes]] or continue to stand by Arslan.
16th Nov '16 8:33:57 AM Morgenthaler
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* Ringo Lam's ''City On Fire'' is all about this, as Chow Yun-Fat plays an undercover cop who has to choose between loyalty to his fellow cops and loyalty to the triad gang that he's infiltrated.

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* Ringo Lam's ''City On Fire'' ''Film/CityOnFire'' is all about this, as Chow Yun-Fat plays an undercover cop who has to choose between loyalty to his fellow cops and loyalty to the triad gang that he's infiltrated.



* This is a major problem for undercover LAPD Officer Brian O'Connor in the first TheFastAndTheFurious movie, assigned to get evidence against Dominic Toretto and his team who are truck jackers. He ends up falling for Toretto's sister and becomes Toretto's friend. In the end, he chooses to let Toretto go.

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* This is a major problem for undercover LAPD Officer Brian O'Connor in the first TheFastAndTheFurious ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'' movie, assigned to get evidence against Dominic Toretto and his team who are truck jackers. He ends up falling for Toretto's sister and becomes Toretto's friend. In the end, he chooses to let Toretto go.
29th Oct '16 6:44:31 AM gophergiggles
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** ''Rainbow Falls'' has a decidedly less sadistic version where Rainbow Dash is forced to choose between her loyalty to her friends and the Ponyville Team (which, to not mince words, ''sucks''), and her loyalty to the Wonderbolts and their team.
10th Aug '16 4:22:04 AM LentilSandEater
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'''[[NamestoRunAwayFromReallyFast Hisek the Swarmkeeper]]''': Grand Empress Zek'hara masked her true intentions behind the guise of matronly worry. She claimed her overbearing ways were necessary to protect us.When she tried to forbid [[TrainingFromHell the swarm]], it was to prevent, as she put it, [[WhatASenselessWasteofHumanLife "a senseless loss of life."]]In reality, she was obsessed with control. [[BlueandOrangeMorality She aspired to stay in power long past her time, and was willing to sacrifice our eternal cycle to achieve that]]. [[IDidWhatIHadtoDo We had no choice but]] [[DeadlyEuphemism to end her]]. How does it feel? [[IRegretNothing I have no regrets, if that is what you are asking]]. I am honored to serve the will of the Klaxxi. [[LampshadeHanging And having seen what Grand Empress Shek'zeer is doing to our land...]] [[PayEviluntoEvil I need no convincing.]]

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'''[[NamestoRunAwayFromReallyFast Hisek the Swarmkeeper]]''': Grand Empress Zek'hara masked her true intentions behind the guise of matronly worry. She claimed her overbearing ways were necessary to protect us.When she tried to forbid [[TrainingFromHell the swarm]], it was to prevent, as she put it, [[WhatASenselessWasteofHumanLife "a senseless loss of life."]]In reality, she was obsessed with control. [[BlueandOrangeMorality She aspired to stay in power long past her time, and was willing to sacrifice our eternal cycle to achieve that]]. [[IDidWhatIHadtoDo We had no choice but]] [[DeadlyEuphemism to end her]]. How does it feel? [[IRegretNothing I have no regrets, if that is what you are asking]]. I am honored to serve the will of the Klaxxi. [[LampshadeHanging And having seen what Grand Empress Shek'zeer is doing to our land...]] land... [[PayEviluntoEvil I need no convincing.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' has a slight example of this in the third season. [[spoiler:Mai has to choose between her love of Zuko and her fear of Azula in "Boiling Rock," and chooses her love of Zuko. When Azula goes to kill her for this, Ty Lee makes a quick choice between her friendship-based love of Mai and ''her'' fear of Azula, and she ''also'' chooses the love. Either Azula isn't really that scary ([[MagnificentBastard which, let's be honest, isn't completely true]]), or both of her friends are much more loyal (to other people) than Azula previously thought.]]
** [[spoiler:Lampshaded in Mai's case, since she outright confirms which side of this trope she was on in the exact same scene.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' has a slight ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''
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example of this in the third season. [[spoiler:Mai has to choose between her love of Zuko and her fear of Azula in "Boiling Rock," and chooses her love of Zuko. When Azula goes to kill her for this, Ty Lee makes a quick choice between her friendship-based love of Mai and ''her'' fear of Azula, and she ''also'' chooses the love. Either Azula isn't really that scary ([[MagnificentBastard which, let's be honest, isn't completely true]]), or both of her friends are much more loyal (to other people) than Azula previously thought.]]
** [[spoiler:Lampshaded in Mai's case, since she outright confirms which side of this trope she was on in the exact same scene.
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18th Jul '16 6:27:21 PM Tir
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* The early days of the Irish War of Independence constituted this for many Irish policemen, who were primary targets of the UsefulNotes/{{IRA}}. As one history book put it "the Irish policemen needed to decide if their loyalty lay with the British who payed their wages, or their fellow Irishmen who were shooting at them". Even more pronounced in the Irish Civil War (which began less than a year after the end of the War of Independence, and was the culmination of tensions which had been building since that time), which, as a result of the split in the UsefulNotes/{{IRA}}, meant that many men who had been comrades only a short time before were now fighting one another. It has been speculated that part of the reason the anti-government forces got such an early foothold was because Michael Collins was unwilling to use maximum force against people who had recently been his close friends.

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* The early days of the Irish War of Independence constituted this for many Irish policemen, who were primary targets of the UsefulNotes/{{IRA}}. As one history book put it "the Irish policemen needed to decide if their loyalty lay with the British who payed paid their wages, or their fellow Irishmen who were shooting at them". Even more pronounced in the Irish Civil War (which began less than a year after the end of the War of Independence, and was the culmination of tensions which had been building since that time), which, as a result of the split in the UsefulNotes/{{IRA}}, meant that many men who had been comrades only a short time before were now fighting one another. It has been speculated that part of the reason the anti-government forces got such an early foothold was because Michael Collins was unwilling to use maximum force against people who had recently been his close friends.
3rd Jul '16 11:19:37 AM ZimFan89
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* ''FanFic/SonOfTheSevenKingdoms'': Farengar Secret-Fire is one of Prince William's Blades, sent to [[TheMole spy on Daenerys]]. However, over time, he comes to admire her as a ruler as much as his Black Prince, and he eventually admits [[spoiler: when outing himself]] that if it ever comes down to it, he wouldn't be able to pick a side between the two of them and would have to stay neutral.
** Like in canon, Theon has this between his Iron Born family and his mainlander friends. Unlike in canon, however, [[spoiler: he chooses his friends]].
15th Jun '16 8:34:16 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Temeraire}}'': At the end of ''Empire of Ivory'', [[spoiler: the British government has sent a dragon infected with a highly contagious disease to France, where it will infect Napoleon's dragons -- and from where the disease will likely spread and kill off most of the dragons in the world. [[OfficerAndAGentleman Laurence]] and Temeraire bring Napoleon the cure, an act of treason against Great Britain. Then Laurence [[HonorBeforeReason goes back to England, fully intending to let them hang him for it.]]]]

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* ''{{Temeraire}}'': ''Literature/{{Temeraire}}'': At the end of ''Empire of Ivory'', [[spoiler: the British government has sent a dragon infected with a highly contagious disease to France, where it will infect Napoleon's dragons -- and from where the disease will likely spread and kill off most of the dragons in the world. [[OfficerAndAGentleman Laurence]] and Temeraire bring Napoleon the cure, an act of treason against Great Britain. Then Laurence [[HonorBeforeReason goes back to England, fully intending to let them hang him for it.]]]]
15th Jun '16 5:01:31 PM JudasZala
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* In ''Series/AmericanCrimeStory: The People v. O.J. Simpson'', Robert Kardashian is close friends with O.J., Simpson and even became one of his "Dream Team" lawyers, but over the series, Kardashian began to have increasing doubts about defending his friend, especially after DNA evidence was introduced, which shows that O.J. could be the killer. At the end of the series, Kardashian ends his friendship with O.J. after O.J. announced his intention to search for the real killers. According to the epilogue, they didn't speak to each other again after Kardashian died in 2003.
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