History Main / ConfessInConfidence

9th Sep '17 4:04:33 PM Timjames98
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* Priest–Penitent Privilege: Most often invoked with (or by) [[ChristianityIsCatholic Christians]], this practice exists in many real-world religions. There is often scope for conflict between religious and national law, too, as it is often not recognised in court; yet unlike some other privileges, it is, for the priest, absolutely inviolable (for Catholic priests, pardon for breaking confidence has to come from UsefulNotes/ThePope, and one of the normal conditions of absolution may be forbidding the priest from ever hearing confessions again. History provides numerous examples of priests [[SeriousBusiness going to jail, suffering torture, or even choosing death over breaking the confessional seal]]). Often a case of research failure – the seal applies to ''sacramental confessions'', regardless of where the confession is made, and [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19950407/REVIEWS/504070308/1023 does not have anything whatsoever to do with]] whether or not the information was revealed in a confessional ''booth''. See {{Confessional}}. Also, the confession has to be serious, not a criminal [[SarcasticConfession sarcastically confessing his crime]]. If the confessor is not serious about his confession, the priest is not bound to stay silent.

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* Priest–Penitent Privilege: Most often invoked with (or by) [[ChristianityIsCatholic Christians]], this practice exists in many real-world religions. There is often scope for conflict between religious and national law, too, as it is often some countries do not recognised in court; recognize it; yet unlike some other privileges, it is, for the priest, absolutely inviolable (for Catholic priests, pardon for breaking confidence has to come from UsefulNotes/ThePope, and one of the normal conditions of absolution may be forbidding the priest from ever hearing confessions again. History provides numerous examples of priests [[SeriousBusiness going to jail, suffering torture, or even choosing death over breaking the confessional seal]]). Often a case of research failure – the seal applies to ''sacramental confessions'', regardless of where the confession is made, and [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19950407/REVIEWS/504070308/1023 does not have anything whatsoever to do with]] whether or not the information was revealed in a confessional ''booth''. See {{Confessional}}. Also, the confession has to be serious, not a criminal [[SarcasticConfession sarcastically confessing his crime]]. If the confessor is not serious about his confession, the priest is not bound to stay silent.


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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest%E2%80%93penitent_privilege#United_States This privilege is protected in United States Law]]. A cleric can not be compelled to reveal the details of a confession, not even in a criminal case.
29th May '17 4:56:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''GrossePointeBlank'', the main character (a hit man)'s therapist tries to explain the loopholes in confidentiality and being required to report it when/if he knows his patient is going to hurt someone. The patient assures him that it's fine, he understands, and he doesn't want to make things difficult for him, and anyways he knows where the doctor lives…

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* In ''GrossePointeBlank'', ''Film/GrossePointeBlank'', the main character (a hit man)'s therapist tries to explain the loopholes in confidentiality and being required to report it when/if he knows his patient is going to hurt someone. The patient assures him that it's fine, he understands, and he doesn't want to make things difficult for him, and anyways he knows where the doctor lives…
28th Mar '17 1:15:41 AM TheHeartlessCookie
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* There is a new law in Ireland specifically requiring priests to report ''any and all'' confessions of sex abuse to the police. Sadly, it seems [[http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-priests-say-they-will-disobey-new-confession-box-law-on-child-abuse-149029005.html many are intending to defy this rather sensible proposition.]]

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* There is a new law in Ireland specifically requiring priests to report ''any and all'' confessions of sex abuse to the police. Sadly, it seems However, [[http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-priests-say-they-will-disobey-new-confession-box-law-on-child-abuse-149029005.html many are intending to defy this rather sensible proposition.the law.]]
21st Feb '17 8:52:49 AM nielas
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* In the premiere of ''Series/TheGoodFight'' Maia has an OhCrap moment when she realizes that in the current circumstances the family attorney is representing her parents only and thus her conversation with him is not protected by attorney-client privilege. Since Maia's and her parents' legal interests might be different, he cannot represent all of them and the parents are his default clients. Maia is not happy that he is trying to get her to potentially incriminate herself in front of him even though he can legally be compelled to testify against her.
19th Nov '16 9:55:08 PM TheNewBig
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* A new law in Ireland specifically requiring priests to report ''any and all'' confessions of sex abuse to the police, regardless of canon law, is causing some [[http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-priests-say-they-will-disobey-new-confession-box-law-on-child-abuse-149029005.html ruckus.]]

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* A There is a new law in Ireland specifically requiring priests to report ''any and all'' confessions of sex abuse to the police, regardless of canon law, is causing some police. Sadly, it seems [[http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-priests-say-they-will-disobey-new-confession-box-law-on-child-abuse-149029005.html ruckus.many are intending to defy this rather sensible proposition.]]
21st Oct '16 9:12:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Series/BreakingBad'', shady attorney Saul invokes this trope by having his kidnappers give him a dollar so that they become his clients. However, once he becomes a partner in their criminal enterprise, they are no longer protected by attorney–client privilege which he fails to mention to them. It is implied that Walt and Jessie do not really know much about the law.
* On ''Series/{{Suits}}'' Mike faces a dilemma when a client confesses to him that he was stoned when he hit and killed someone with his car. Mike has just secured the client a nice plea bargain on the assumption that the death was purely accidental. Mike's parents were killed by a drunk driver and his conscience won't let him keep quiet about what he knows and thus sabotaging the deal. This one is incidentally OK, since a plea bargain is conducted in court: a failure to report the information would violate Mike's duty to be honest to the tribunal, and would also possibly be suborning perjury (i.e. allowing someone to lie to the court). Of course, Mike isn't actually a lawyer anyway…

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* In ''Series/BreakingBad'', shady ''Series/BreakingBad'':
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attorney Saul invokes this trope by having his kidnappers give him a dollar so that they become his clients. However, once he becomes a partner in their criminal enterprise, they are no longer protected by attorney–client privilege which he fails to mention to them. It is implied that Walt and Jessie do not really know much about the law.
** Played more straight when Walt's wife Skyler begins to see through his lies and visits a divorce lawyer to discuss how she can seperate from him without hurting their family in the process. Before confessing that she knows Walt is a drug dealer she asks the lawyer in question about the confidentiality issue, who points out that since she's a lawyer and not a cop she only has her client's best interests at heart.
* On ''Series/{{Suits}}'' ''Series/{{Suits}}'':
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Mike faces a dilemma when a client confesses to him that he was stoned when he hit and killed someone with his car. Mike has just secured the client a nice plea bargain on the assumption that the death was purely accidental. Mike's parents were killed by a drunk driver and his conscience won't let him keep quiet about what he knows and thus sabotaging the deal. This one is incidentally OK, since a plea bargain is conducted in court: a failure to report the information would violate Mike's duty to be honest to the tribunal, and would also possibly be suborning perjury (i.e. allowing someone to lie to the court). Of course, Mike isn't actually a lawyer anyway…
3rd Oct '16 4:55:16 PM kazokuhouou
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* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' ran into this, where [[spoiler:one of the protagonist's clients actually is guilty and admits it, but the hero can't tell anyone. The assassin who was hired by Engarde kidnapped Maya and threatened to kill her if Phoenix didn't get Engarde off the hook]], so he couldn't say anything even if he was allowed to, or even drop the case.

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* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' ran into this, where [[spoiler:one of the protagonist's clients actually is guilty and admits it, but the hero can't tell anyone. The assassin who was hired by Engarde kidnapped Maya and threatened to kill her if Phoenix didn't get Engarde off the hook]], so he couldn't say anything even if he was allowed to, or even drop the case. [[spoiler: He gets around it by presenting evidence to the assassin that Engarde planned to blackmail him, causing the assassin to target Engarde, causing Engarde to confess to the murder to stay protected in prison.]]
24th Jun '16 2:53:16 AM ACW
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* Plays a role in ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'', as intimate insight and trust allows Dr. Lecter to manipulate his patients into doing things he finds entertaining. So much so in fact that in season two, his therapy of the Verger siblings leads him to learn what Margot has suffered at the hands of [[CompleteMonster her brother]], prompting him to advise she kill Mason and later leading Lecter to [[ForegoneConclusion play a hand in Mason's grisly "accident."]]

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* Plays a role in ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'', as intimate insight and trust allows Dr. Lecter to manipulate his patients into doing things he finds entertaining. So much so in fact that in season two, his therapy of the Verger siblings leads him to learn what Margot has suffered at the hands of [[CompleteMonster her brother]], brother, prompting him to advise she kill Mason and later leading Lecter to [[ForegoneConclusion play a hand in Mason's grisly "accident."]]
17th Jun '16 7:03:41 PM TinyTedDanson
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'''Hannibal Lecter''': I can't tell you what Margot's confessed to me. Fortunately for [[CompleteMonster you]], I can't tell anyone.

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'''Hannibal Lecter''': I can't tell you what Margot's confessed to me. Fortunately for [[CompleteMonster you]], you, I can't tell anyone.
17th Jun '16 7:03:09 PM TinyTedDanson
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->'''Mason Verger''': I'm sure she's told you horrible things that I've done.\\
'''Hannibal Lecter''': I can't tell you what Margot's confessed to me. Fortunately for [[CompleteMonster you]], I can't tell anyone.
-->-- ''Series/{{Hannibal}}''



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* Plays a role in ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'', as intimate insight and trust allows Dr. Lecter to manipulate his patients into doing things he finds entertaining. So much so in fact that in season two, his therapy of the Verger siblings leads him to learn what Margot has suffered at the hands of [[CompleteMonster her brother]], prompting him to advise she kill Mason and later leading Lecter to [[ForegoneConclusion play a hand in Mason's grisly "accident."]]
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