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16th Feb '17 10:25:32 PM Gideoncrawle
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Unfortunately, this trope is also TruthInTelevision, as many people belonging to minority groups frequently encounter this, but that's everything needed to be said about it, so NoRealLifeExamplesPlease

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Unfortunately, this This trope is also TruthInTelevision, as many people belonging to minority groups frequently encounter this, but that's everything needed to be said about it, so NoRealLifeExamplesPlease
14th Feb '17 2:10:40 AM MeepieV
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* The universe of ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' is filled with (usually) well-meaning but condescending adults who pity and attempt to help the Baudelaire orphans in various ill-thought out ways, and usually end up making their situation a lot worse.

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* The universe of ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' is filled with (usually) well-meaning but condescending adults who pity and attempt to help the Baudelaire orphans in various ill-thought out ways, and usually end up making their situation a lot worse.



* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals. You don't usually see him engage with individual poor people as human beings, though, and it doesn't seem like he's asked their permission before openly discussing their poverty and medical issues with complete strangers. He and his followers also present themselves as being very magnanimous and compassionate towards people who have openly been caught sinning (although this compassion involves using torture to educate people), but the High Sparrow openly admits how disgusted he is by the sexual licentiousness he witnessed before he renounced his highborn status, and this attitude seems to be reflected by his followers.
** The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]] uses a combination of compassion and thinly veiled condescension to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to instruct them. He also repeatedly pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that real-world abusers use this strategy to make abuse victims psychologically dependent on them (since it makes victim question their basic sense of reality, teaches them that they won't be able to survive on their own if they decide to leave, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).

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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals. You don't usually see him engage with individual poor people as unique human beings, though, and it doesn't seem like he's asked their permission before openly discussing their poverty and medical issues with complete strangers. He and his followers also present themselves as being very magnanimous and compassionate towards people who have openly been caught sinning (although this compassion involves using torture to educate people), but the High Sparrow openly admits how disgusted he is by the sexual licentiousness he witnessed before he renounced his highborn status, and this attitude seems to be reflected by his followers.
** The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]] uses a combination of compassion and thinly veiled condescension to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon about what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to instruct them. He also repeatedly pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that real-world abusers use strategies like this strategy to make abuse victims psychologically dependent on them (since it makes victim question their basic sense of reality, teaches them that they won't be able to survive on their own if they decide to leave, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).



* Quinn and other members of the Fashion Club on ''WesternAnimation/Daria'' would use the fact that they felt sorry for "ugly" girls as a sign of their basic moral goodness, and would hand out makeovers as a form of charity.
* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a fictional war-torn Eastern European country, is very condescending towards the local people, never actually bothering to engage with them but spending a lot of time talking about how poor and needy they are. He is also continually using the Cordovians as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library in the middle of a refugee camp). At one point, he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name means "orphan who will probably die soon".

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* Quinn and other members of the Fashion Club on ''WesternAnimation/Daria'' ''Daria'' would use the fact that they felt sorry for "ugly" girls as a sign of their basic moral goodness, and would hand out makeovers as a form of charity.
* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground out in a fictional war-torn Eastern European country, is very condescending towards the local people, never actually bothering to engage with or learn from them but while simultaneously spending a lot of time talking about how poor and needy they are. He is also continually using the Cordovians as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering never bothers to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a shiny library in the middle of a delapidated refugee camp). At one point, he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name means "orphan who will probably die soon".
14th Feb '17 2:00:20 AM MeepieV
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* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a fictional war-torn Eastern European country, is very condescending towards the local people, never actually bothering to engage with them but spending a lot of time talking about how poor and needy they are. He is also continually using the Cordovians as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library in the middle of a refugee camp). At one point ,he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name meant "orphan who will probably die soon".
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' tendency to treat Homer's elderly father Abe and other senior citizens in this way has been a source of comedy throughout the show's run.

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* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a fictional war-torn Eastern European country, is very condescending towards the local people, never actually bothering to engage with them but spending a lot of time talking about how poor and needy they are. He is also continually using the Cordovians as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library in the middle of a refugee camp). At one point ,he point, he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name meant means "orphan who will probably die soon".
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''' tendency to treat Homer's elderly father Abe and other senior citizens in this way has been a source of comedy throughout the show's run.
14th Feb '17 1:58:20 AM MeepieV
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** The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], uses a combination of compassion and thinly veiled condescension to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to instruct them. He also repeatedly pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that real-world abusers use this strategy to make abuse victim psychologically dependent on the them (since it makes victim question their basic sense of reality, teaches them that they won't be able to survive on their own if they decide to leave, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).

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** The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], Bolton]] uses a combination of compassion and thinly veiled condescension to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to instruct them. He also repeatedly pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that real-world abusers use this strategy to make abuse victim victims psychologically dependent on the them (since it makes victim question their basic sense of reality, teaches them that they won't be able to survive on their own if they decide to leave, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).


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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' tendency to treat Homer's elderly father Abe and other senior citizens in this way has been a source of comedy throughout the show's run.
14th Feb '17 1:48:42 AM MeepieV
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* The tendency of adults to treat children this way is repeatedly played for laughs in ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' . Many of the adult characters profess pity and compassion for the orphans' plight, but they don't listen to or respect the children's judgements at all.

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* The tendency universe of ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' is filled with (usually) well-meaning but condescending adults to treat children this way is repeatedly played for laughs in ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' . Many of the adult characters profess who pity and compassion for attempt to help the orphans' plight, but they don't listen to or respect the children's judgements at all.Baudelaire orphans in various ill-thought out ways, and usually end up making their situation a lot worse.
14th Feb '17 1:35:17 AM MeepieV
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* The tendency of adults to treat children this way is repeatedly played for laughs in ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' . Many of the adult characters profess pity and compassion for the orphans' plight, but they don't listen to or respect the children's judgements at all.



* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals. You don't usually see him engage with individual poor people as human beings, and it doesn't seem like he's asked their permission before openly discussing their poverty and infirmaries with others. He and his followers also present themselves as being very magnanimous and compassionate towards people who have openly been caught sinning (although this compassion involves using torture to educate people), but the High Sparrow openly admits how disgusted he is by the sexual licentiousness he witnessed before he renounced his highborn status, and this attitude seems to be reflected by his followers.
** The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], behaves like this to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to help them. He also pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that abusers in the real world often use this strategy to control their victims, and make said victim psychologically dependent on the abuser (because repeatedly doing so makes the abuse victim question their basic sense of reality, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).

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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals. You don't usually see him engage with individual poor people as human beings, though, and it doesn't seem like he's asked their permission before openly discussing their poverty and infirmaries medical issues with others.complete strangers. He and his followers also present themselves as being very magnanimous and compassionate towards people who have openly been caught sinning (although this compassion involves using torture to educate people), but the High Sparrow openly admits how disgusted he is by the sexual licentiousness he witnessed before he renounced his highborn status, and this attitude seems to be reflected by his followers.
** The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], behaves like this uses a combination of compassion and thinly veiled condescension to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to help instruct them. He also repeatedly pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that real-world abusers in the real world often use this strategy to control their victims, and make said abuse victim psychologically dependent on the abuser (because repeatedly doing so them (since it makes the abuse victim question their basic sense of reality, teaches them that they won't be able to survive on their own if they decide to leave, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).
14th Feb '17 1:15:18 AM MeepieV
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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals (Olenna Tyrell directly calls him out for this).
** Also used by, of all people, [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], mostly as a strategy to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to help them. TruthInTelevision in so far that abusers in the real world often use this strategy to control their victims.

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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals (Olenna Tyrell directly calls sandals. You don't usually see him out for this).
engage with individual poor people as human beings, and it doesn't seem like he's asked their permission before openly discussing their poverty and infirmaries with others. He and his followers also present themselves as being very magnanimous and compassionate towards people who have openly been caught sinning (although this compassion involves using torture to educate people), but the High Sparrow openly admits how disgusted he is by the sexual licentiousness he witnessed before he renounced his highborn status, and this attitude seems to be reflected by his followers.
** Also used by, of all people, The compassion is less genuine than usual, but [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], mostly as a strategy behaves like this to mess with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to help them. He also pets and strokes Theon in the same way that a loving master would pet and stroke a dog. TruthInTelevision in so far that abusers in the real world often use this strategy to control their victims.victims, and make said victim psychologically dependent on the abuser (because repeatedly doing so makes the abuse victim question their basic sense of reality, and makes them feel guilty for questioning the abuser's authority).
14th Feb '17 12:53:25 AM MeepieV
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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, but you don't see him engaging with them in a way that suggests they are equal.

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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, but you don't see and seems to have a very romanticised image of himself as somebody who will give up his last pair of sandals (Olenna Tyrell directly calls him engaging out for this).
** Also used by, of all people, [[CompleteMonster Ramsay Bolton]], mostly as a strategy to mess
with his victim's heads. He is prone to giving speeches to Sansa and Theon what a kind and forgiving husband/master he is and how everything he does (including torture) is because he loves them and wants to help them. TruthInTelevision in a way so far that suggests they are equal. abusers in the real world often use this strategy to control their victims.



* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a war-torn Eastern European country, spends a lot of time talking about how poor and needy the people he "helps" are, using them as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library when they don't have access to clean drinking water. At one point ,he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name meant "orphan who will probably die soon".

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* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a fictional war-torn Eastern European country, spends is very condescending towards the local people, never actually bothering to engage with them but spending a lot of time talking about how poor and needy the people he "helps" are, they are. He is also continually using them the Cordovians as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library when they don't have access to clean drinking water.in the middle of a refugee camp). At one point ,he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name meant "orphan who will probably die soon".
14th Feb '17 12:28:40 AM MeepieV
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* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a war-torn Eastern European country, spends a lot of time talking about how poor and needy the people he "helps" are, using them as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library when they don't have access to clean drinking water.

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* Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a war-torn Eastern European country, spends a lot of time talking about how poor and needy the people he "helps" are, using them as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library when they don't have access to clean drinking water. At one point ,he tells Dianne that a little boy named Kinko's name meant "orphan who will probably die soon".
14th Feb '17 12:23:54 AM MeepieV
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* The High Sparrow from ''Series/GameOfThrones'' talks a lot about the poor people he helps, but you don't see him engaging with them in a way that suggests they are equal.


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* Quinn and other members of the Fashion Club on ''WesternAnimation/Daria'' would use the fact that they felt sorry for "ugly" girls as a sign of their basic moral goodness, and would hand out makeovers as a form of charity.
*Parodied on ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'', with the Richard Branson expy Sebastian St Claire. Sebastian St Claire, a billionaire who has given up the business world to help on the ground in a war-torn Eastern European country, spends a lot of time talking about how poor and needy the people he "helps" are, using them as props for photo-opportunities and not even bothering to consider what they might actually want (for example, building a monument to himself and a library when they don't have access to clean drinking water.
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