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13th Jul '16 1:53:36 AM StFan
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* An attempted - and failed - aversion resulted from the making of the 1932 black comedy/horror film ''{{Freaks}}''. Director Todd Browning wanted to show sideshow performers to be, if not exactly ordinary, then at least well-adjusted and confident, and not in need of the other circus people to feel sorry for them or protect them from persecution. But he was [[ExecutiveMeddling forced to cut large portions of the screenplay by the film's producers]] (partly for censorship reasons and partly because the studio just wanted a shorter film), with the result that the freaks are pictured more as [[NobleSavage Noble Savages]] (they are even - sympathetically - referred to as children) and then as near-villains when they take their revenge in the climax.

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* An attempted - -- and failed - -- aversion resulted from the making of the 1932 black comedy/horror film ''{{Freaks}}''.''Film/{{Freaks}}''. Director Todd Browning wanted to show sideshow performers to be, if not exactly ordinary, then at least well-adjusted and confident, and not in need of the other circus people to feel sorry for them or protect them from persecution. But he was [[ExecutiveMeddling forced to cut large portions of the screenplay by the film's producers]] (partly for censorship reasons and partly because the studio just wanted a shorter film), with the result that the freaks are pictured more as [[NobleSavage Noble Savages]] (they are even - -- sympathetically - -- referred to as children) and then as near-villains when they take their revenge in the climax.



* In ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'', when he receives news that Lydia has eloped with Wickham, the rector Mr. Collins decides that it would be a good idea to write to Mr. Bennet and 'console' him and his cousins on their misfortune. These condolences primarily come in the form of a self-righteous lecture about what a wicked and shameful girl Lydia is and how she's brought ruin on them all through her wicked conduct.
** The 1995 TV adaptation has him come and deliver this lecture in person ... which, needless to say, [[SarcasmMode just endears him to the Bennett sisters even more]].
* In DavidWeber's ''[[Literature/TheWarGods The War God's Own]]'', this is the attitude of spoiled young Sir Vaijon of Almerhas when first introduced. Things go to hell when he meets the protagonist, who is of a race that Vaijon considers the lowest of the low ''and'' has been personally chosen as champion by the patron god of Vaijon's military order.

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* In ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'', when he receives news that Lydia has eloped with Wickham, the rector Mr. Collins decides that it would be a good idea to write to Mr. Bennet and 'console' "console" him and his cousins on their misfortune. These condolences primarily come in the form of a self-righteous lecture about what a wicked and shameful girl Lydia is and how she's brought ruin on them all through her wicked conduct.
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conduct. The 1995 TV adaptation has him come and deliver this lecture in person ...person... which, needless to say, [[SarcasmMode just endears him to the Bennett sisters even more]].
* In DavidWeber's Creator/DavidWeber's ''[[Literature/TheWarGods The War God's Own]]'', this is the attitude of spoiled young Sir Vaijon of Almerhas when first introduced. Things go to hell when he meets the protagonist, who is of a race that Vaijon considers the lowest of the low ''and'' has been personally chosen as champion by the patron god of Vaijon's military order.



* In Creator/DavidWeber's ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' series, this is one of the attitudes that (nicer) civilians of the Solarian League have towards non-league 'neobarbs'.

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* In Creator/DavidWeber's ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' series, this is one of the attitudes that (nicer) civilians of the Solarian League have towards non-league 'neobarbs'."neobarbs".



* ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'': Trolls and dwarfs have almost always been at war (one's big, stupid, and made of minerals, the other's small, aggressive, and always on the lookout for precious ores to mine...), but ''{{Disworld/Thud}}'' puts a new spin by quoting an excerpt from TheFundamentalist's explanation, citing that trolls should be pitied for being mishappen and crude, being made from the leftovers used to fashion dwarves and humans. [[spoiler:Which turns out to have been a direct contradiction of the ''real'' holy text, in which trolls created themselves. The dwarf grags nearly got into a civil war over their greatest tenet being overruled and destroying a holy text (a just-as-big taboo), eventually settling for trying to blame the murder on the trolls.]]

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* ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'': ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': Trolls and dwarfs have almost always been at war (one's big, stupid, and made of minerals, the other's small, aggressive, and always on the lookout for precious ores to mine...), but ''{{Disworld/Thud}}'' ''Disworld/{{Thud}}'' puts a new spin by quoting an excerpt from TheFundamentalist's explanation, citing that trolls should be pitied for being mishappen misshapen and crude, being made from the leftovers used to fashion dwarves and humans. [[spoiler:Which turns out to have been a direct contradiction of the ''real'' holy text, in which trolls created themselves. The dwarf grags nearly got into a civil war over their greatest tenet being overruled and destroying a holy text (a just-as-big taboo), eventually settling for trying to blame the murder on the trolls.]]



* Defining characteristic of the [[TabletopGame/WarHammer40000 Tau]] attitude toward other races. DependingOnTheWriter this may be presented as a marginally better alternative to the AbsoluteXenophobe Imperium of Man, or much, much worse because at least the humans are ''honest'' about how much they hate you.
* Brettonian society in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' is so ridiculously stratified that commoners are literally seen as a different (and inferior) species than the nobles. This view leads this trope being common amongst the more 'compassionate' of lords and knights. For example, a lord who mistreats his peasants may see several of his neighbours band together to depose him. This isn't because they actually care about the welfare of the peasants, but because abusing poor defenceless peasants is conduct unbecoming of a Brettonian noble that makes the noble class look bad.

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* ''TabletopGame/WarHammer40000'': Defining characteristic of the [[TabletopGame/WarHammer40000 Tau]] Tau attitude toward other races. DependingOnTheWriter this may be presented as a marginally better alternative to the AbsoluteXenophobe Imperium of Man, or much, much worse because at least the humans are ''honest'' about how much they hate you.
* Brettonian society in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' is so ridiculously stratified that commoners are literally seen as a different (and inferior) species than the nobles. This view leads this trope being common amongst the more 'compassionate' "compassionate" of lords and knights. For example, a lord who mistreats his peasants may see several of his neighbours neighbors band together to depose him. This isn't because they actually care about the welfare of the peasants, but because abusing poor defenceless defenseless peasants is conduct unbecoming of a Brettonian noble that makes the noble class look bad.



* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Sebastian tries to sell Merrill on the Chantry by talking about its work caring for orphans and widows. Merrill questions why orphans and widows need to be cared for - in her own clan, they are treated just like everyone else.

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* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', Sebastian tries to sell Merrill on the Chantry by talking about its work caring for orphans and widows. Merrill questions why orphans and widows need to be cared for - -- in her own clan, they are treated just like everyone else.



* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' plays with this trope in a few ways. Being a game about {{disabled love interest}}s, it's easy to fall into this, and is the cause for some {{bad ending}}s. ''Especially'' [[spoiler:[[TheWoobie Hanako's]]]].
** Ironic in one way, but this is basically the real life playing out of the "sympathetic bigot" part of the trope. Not knowing led to ignorant pitying, but once the creators actually began researching and talking to people they developed a more nuanced portrayal of the people involved (for example, the main obstacles in the characters lives are rarely their disabilities but their emotional/psychological problems - which ''can'' stem from their disabilities but don't necessarily ''have'' to.)

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* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' plays with this trope in a few ways. Being a game about {{disabled love interest}}s, it's easy to fall into this, and is the cause for some {{bad ending}}s. ''Especially'' [[spoiler:[[TheWoobie Hanako's]]]].
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Hanako's]]]]. Ironic in one way, but this is basically the real life real-life playing out of the "sympathetic bigot" part of the trope. Not knowing led to ignorant pitying, but once the creators actually began researching and talking to people they developed a more nuanced portrayal of the people involved (for example, the main obstacles in the characters lives are rarely their disabilities but their emotional/psychological problems - -- which ''can'' stem from their disabilities but don't necessarily ''have'' to.)



* In ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', Cronus believes that one of his best qualities is how he doesn't ''nearly'' make as big a deal about the fact that he's a [[BlueBlood seadweller]] as he could and that the others should be thankful he's such a progressive guy. After all, he ''could'' lord it over them, but he actually stoops to their level to see them as equals (and reminds them of it constantly)! What more could they possibly ask for? Kankri also has a tendency to fall into condescension, [[HypocriticalHumor even though he expressly argues against that kind of thing]].
** This in general is Beforus' hat. It's a culture that is based around babying those with "lower" blood colors like they're helpless.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'':
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Cronus believes that one of his best qualities is how he doesn't ''nearly'' make as big a deal about the fact that he's a [[BlueBlood seadweller]] as he could and that the others should be thankful he's such a progressive guy. After all, he ''could'' lord it over them, but he actually stoops to their level to see them as equals (and reminds them of it constantly)! What more could they possibly ask for? for?
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Kankri also has a tendency to fall into condescension, [[HypocriticalHumor even though he expressly argues against that kind of thing]].
** This in general is Beforus' Beforus's hat. It's a culture that is based around babying those with "lower" blood colors like they're helpless.



--> Again, [[MisBlamed we can blame]] [[HollywoodStyle the studios all we want]]. [[LowestCommonDenominator But they've learned from hard experience that for the most part]], if they don't play to our prejudices, [[UnfortunateImplications we simply won't go see their movie.]] (However, this experience may be out of date, as films with non-European protagonists generally do fine if they can get into theaters in majority-ethnic-European societies.)

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--> Again, -->''Again, [[MisBlamed we can blame]] [[HollywoodStyle the studios all we want]]. [[LowestCommonDenominator But they've learned from hard experience that for the most part]], if they don't play to our prejudices, [[UnfortunateImplications we simply won't go see their movie.]] (However, this experience may be out of date, as films with non-European protagonists generally do fine if they can get into theaters in majority-ethnic-European societies.))''



-->''First of all, the main character—who we are 100% meant to sympathize with and support—[[UnfortunateImplications just referred to women as things]]. Second, note that the main character desperately wants sex and only interacts with two women before this conversation: his roommate, whom he condescends to because'' '''''he could only have sex with someone he loves, unlike her,''''' ''and the titular call girl, whose line of work he disrespects but attempts to tolerate. He paints prostitutes, apparently reflecting on how he respects their bodies more than most clients or some hogwash like that, but doesn’t realize that he’s judging them and their line of work in a snobbish way as a result. He thinks he knows what their bodies are good for better than they do.''

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-->''First of all, the main character—who character -- who we are 100% meant to sympathize with and support—[[UnfortunateImplications support -- [[UnfortunateImplications just referred to women as things]]. Second, note that the main character desperately wants sex and only interacts with two women before this conversation: his roommate, whom he condescends to because'' '''''he could only have sex with someone he loves, unlike her,''''' ''and the titular call girl, whose line of work he disrespects but attempts to tolerate. He paints prostitutes, apparently reflecting on how he respects their bodies more than most clients or some hogwash like that, but doesn’t doesn't realize that he’s he's judging them and their line of work in a snobbish way as a result. He thinks he knows what their bodies are good for better than they do.''



* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "Keystone Motel", Sapphire treats Ruby's anger as insignificant because she knows it will eventually fade. This trivialization of her emotions only makes Ruby angrier- especially because her hurt feelings are ''entirely justified'' given the circumstances. Sapphire later admits that by doing this, she was only escalating their fight.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "Keystone Motel", Sapphire treats Ruby's anger as insignificant because she knows it will eventually fade. This trivialization of her emotions only makes Ruby angrier- angrier -- especially because her hurt feelings are ''entirely justified'' given the circumstances. Sapphire later admits that by doing this, she was only escalating their fight.
30th Jun '16 9:18:23 PM PaulA
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* {{Lampshaded}} in ''[[Literature/TheElenium The Tamuli]]''. Throughout ''The Elenium'' the protagonists have been Elenes who are very pro-Styric despite the wide-spread anti-Styric attitudes that exist among Elenes, and stand up against Elene racism on the matter. However, in ''The Tamuli'' they finally get to see the great city of the Styrics and the shock of seeing Styrics living ordinary, normal lives like Elenes, as equals to Elenes, instead of the downtrodden, victimised people they're used to seeing, makes them realise that they'd been courting condescending compassion all along. Being good people at heart, they're able to confront this ugly side of themselves and overcome it, but it's a shock to the system when they're first exposed to the reality of the type of compassion they'd previously been feeling.

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* {{Lampshaded}} in ''[[Literature/TheElenium The Tamuli]]''. ''Literature/TheTamuli''. Throughout ''The Elenium'' ''Literature/TheElenium'' the protagonists have been Elenes who are very pro-Styric despite the wide-spread anti-Styric attitudes that exist among Elenes, and stand up against Elene racism on the matter. However, in ''The Tamuli'' they finally get to see the great city of the Styrics and the shock of seeing Styrics living ordinary, normal lives like Elenes, as equals to Elenes, instead of the downtrodden, victimised people they're used to seeing, makes them realise that they'd been courting condescending compassion all along. Being good people at heart, they're able to confront this ugly side of themselves and overcome it, but it's a shock to the system when they're first exposed to the reality of the type of compassion they'd previously been feeling.
19th Jun '16 2:18:11 AM Chabal2
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* ''{{Literature/Discworld}}'': Trolls and dwarfs have almost always been at war (one's big, stupid, and made of minerals, the other's small, aggressive, and always on the lookout for precious ores to mine...), but ''{{Disworld/Thud}}'' puts a new spin by quoting an excerpt from TheFundamentalist's explanation, citing that trolls should be pitied for being mishappen and crude, being made from the leftovers used to fashion dwarves and humans. [[spoiler:Which turns out to have been a direct contradiction of the ''real'' holy text, in which trolls created themselves. The dwarf grags nearly got into a civil war over their greatest tenet being overruled and destroying a holy text (a just-as-big taboo), eventually settling for trying to blame the murder on the trolls.]]
15th Jun '16 7:12:47 AM Grudgeal
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May factor into BlackAndWhiteInsanity or WindmillPolitical. Compare and contrast HeteronormativeCrusader. Often runs in the background of WhiteMansBurden or SaveOurStudents plots, which explains why some viewers find those stories offensive and others find them inspiring or heartwarming. The phrase "ACreditToYourRace" frequently ties into this world-view.

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May factor into BlackAndWhiteInsanity or WindmillPolitical. Compare and contrast HeteronormativeCrusader. Often runs in the background of WhiteMansBurden or SaveOurStudents plots, which explains why some viewers find those stories offensive and others find them inspiring or heartwarming. The phrase "ACreditToYourRace" "YouAreACreditToYourRace" frequently ties into this world-view.
15th Jun '16 7:12:20 AM Grudgeal
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May factor into BlackAndWhiteInsanity or WindmillPolitical. Compare and contrast HeteronormativeCrusader. Often runs in the background of WhiteMansBurden or SaveOurStudents plots, which explains why some viewers find those stories offensive and others find them inspiring or heartwarming.

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May factor into BlackAndWhiteInsanity or WindmillPolitical. Compare and contrast HeteronormativeCrusader. Often runs in the background of WhiteMansBurden or SaveOurStudents plots, which explains why some viewers find those stories offensive and others find them inspiring or heartwarming.
heartwarming. The phrase "ACreditToYourRace" frequently ties into this world-view.
15th Jun '16 7:09:47 AM Grudgeal
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* Brettonian society in ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' is so ridiculously stratified that commoners are literally seen as a different (and inferior) species than the nobles. This view leads this trope being common amongst the more 'compassionate' of lords and knights. For example, a lord who mistreats his peasants may see several of his neighbours band together to depose him. This isn't because they actually care about the welfare of the peasants, but because abusing poor defenceless peasants is conduct unbecoming of a Brettonian noble that makes the noble class look bad.
26th May '16 5:09:20 AM Juicehead_Baby
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* Defining characteristic of the [[TabletopGame/WarHammer40000 Tau]] attitude toward other races. DependingOnTheWriter this may be presented as a marginally better alternative to the AbsoluteXenophobe Imperium of Man, or much, much worse because at least the humans are ''honest'' about how much they hate you.
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22nd Apr '16 5:24:56 PM eroock
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-->-- '''Natascha Kampusch''', in the epilogue of ''3096 Days''

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-->-- '''Natascha Kampusch''', in the epilogue of ''3096 ''3,096 Days''
6th Feb '16 5:28:26 PM 10-13-2
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* An attempted - and failed - aversion resulted from the making of the 1932 black comedy/horror film ''{{Freaks}}''. Director Todd Browning wanted to show sideshow performers to be, if not exactly ordinary, then at least well-adjusted and confident, and not in need of the other circus people to feel sorry for them or protect them from persecution. But he was [[ExecutiveMeddling forced to cut large portions of the screenplay by the film's producers]] (partly for censorship reasons and partly because the studio just wanted a shorter film), with the result that the freaks are pictured more as [[NobleSavage Noble Savages]] (they are even - sympathetically - referred to as children) and then as near-villains when they take their revenge in the climax.
22nd Jan '16 9:38:20 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Film/{{Mammoth}}'', believing prostitution to be horrible, Leo keeps feeling sorry for Cookie. He does this in a way that'sactually shaming her and would emotionally damage her if she [[InternalizedCategorism internalized it]].

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* In ''Film/{{Mammoth}}'', believing prostitution to be horrible, Leo keeps feeling sorry for Cookie. He does this in a way that'sactually that's actually shaming her and would emotionally damage her if she [[InternalizedCategorism internalized it]].
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