History Main / ConcealmentEqualsCover

24th Sep '17 4:28:26 PM scooter
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* Played straight in the Spanish spy spoof ''Spy Time'' (a.k.a. ''Anacleto: Agente Secreto''). That overturned kitchen table protects Alacleto and his son from pistols, machine guns--even a ''bomb'' exploding two feet away!

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* Played straight in the Spanish spy spoof ''Spy Time'' (a.k.a. ''Anacleto: Agente Secreto''). That overturned kitchen table protects Alacleto Anacleto and his son from pistols, machine guns--even a ''bomb'' exploding two feet away!
24th Sep '17 4:28:09 PM scooter
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* Played straight in the Spanish spy spoof ''Spy Time'' (a.k.a. ''Anacleto: Agente Secreto''). That overturned kitchen table protects Alacleto and his son from pistols, machine guns--even a ''bomb'' exploding two feet away!


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* Played straight in the classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS14E6TheTalonsOfWengChiang The Talons of Weng-Chiang]]". A flimsy wooden table is enough to shield the protagonists from FrickingLaserBeams. The laser beams at least start punching holes through the table, though.
16th Sep '17 1:01:53 PM shokoshu
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* Totally true for radioactive alpha radiation. Even a sheet of paper will protect you.
12th Sep '17 1:05:42 PM REV6Pilot
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Hollywood seems to apply this trope most [[{{egregious}} egregiously]] to car doors. Car doors are mostly plastic with a thin metal plate on the outside, designed to maintain its structure against broad and wide pressure of another car impacting it, but most certainly not designed to withstand bullets. Other than police cars and armored cars for VIP protection which have been specially designed to withstand the impact, there isn't a car on the market whose doors could stop even fairly low-caliber bullets. The prevalence in fiction of cars providing cover in a gunfight probably is a result of shootouts in the 1920s, when cars (including the doors) were made entirely of steel and most handguns fired subsonic ammunition. Even then a car provided absolutely no protection against rifle fire, but Hollywood has always a had a problem understanding the fact that rifles are much more powerful than pistols.

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Hollywood seems to apply this trope most [[{{egregious}} egregiously]] to car doors. Car doors are mostly plastic with a thin metal plate on the outside, designed to maintain its structure against broad and wide pressure of another car impacting it, but most certainly not designed to withstand bullets. Other than police cars and armored cars for VIP protection which have been specially designed to withstand the impact, there isn't a car on the market whose doors could stop even fairly low-caliber bullets. The prevalence in fiction of cars providing cover in a gunfight probably is a result of shootouts in the 1920s, when cars (including the doors) were made entirely of steel and most handguns fired subsonic ammunition. Even then a car provided absolutely no protection against rifle fire, but [[ArbitraryGunPower Hollywood has always a had a problem understanding the fact that rifles are much more powerful than pistols.
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In Video Games, this can be considered an [[AcceptableBreaksFromReality Acceptable Break From Reality]] in games with cover systems, since it would be frustrating to get into what appeared to be cover only to find the enemy could still hit you just fine; players tend to only object when things no reasonable person would try to hide behind like ordinary glass or picket fences are still totally bulletproof, or the cover system is inconsistent and unclear to use. It tends to be more of a problem when ''enemies'' can take cover in places that blatantly aren't cover, such as being protected from a hand grenade by hiding behind a rack of magazines or handrail.

This is common enough that '''only aversions, subversions and justified cases should be listed'''. Contrast with TheAllSeeingAI, where concealment most definitely does not equal cover ''or'' concealment.

This trope has been [[TropesExaminedByTheMythBusters tested by the Mythbusters]]. Whether this trope is busted or plausible depends on what the concealment is made of and what is hidden inside the concealment. It's mostly busted for walls vs bullets.

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In Video Games, this This can be considered an [[AcceptableBreaksFromReality Acceptable Break From Reality]] in games {{video game}}s with cover systems, since it would be frustrating to get into what appeared to be cover only to find the enemy could still hit you just fine; players fine. Players tend to only object when things no reasonable person would try to hide behind like ordinary glass or picket fences are still totally bulletproof, or the cover system is inconsistent and unclear to use. It tends to be more of a problem when ''enemies'' can take cover in places that blatantly aren't cover, such as being protected from a hand grenade by hiding behind a rack of magazines or handrail.

This is common enough that '''only aversions, subversions and justified cases should be listed'''. Contrast with TheAllSeeingAI, where concealment most definitely does not [[InvertedTrope cover doesn't equal cover ''or'' concealment.concealment]].

This trope has been [[TropesExaminedByTheMythBusters tested by the Mythbusters]]. Whether this trope is busted or plausible depends on what the concealment is made of and what is hidden inside the concealment. It's mostly busted for walls vs vs. bullets.
5th Sep '17 8:44:43 AM Koshiku
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* ''Manga/GunslingerGirl''. A victim manages to hide behind a table from a burst of FN P90 high-velocity armor-piercing bullets.
1st Sep '17 7:58:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': Averted. Mike shoots a cartel henchman through a wall after being given subtle instructions from said henchman's hostage on how high to aim.

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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': ''Series/BreakingBad'':
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Averted. Mike shoots a cartel henchman through a wall after being given subtle instructions from said henchman's hostage on how high to aim.
1st Sep '17 7:55:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/TwinPeaks'': Averted in the third season. Two criminals armed with ordinary handguns are trying to escape from an altercation with another criminal by rushing off in their van. He sprays the van with bullets from a machine pistol and they both end up dying.
28th Jun '17 9:39:15 PM PaulA
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* In ''Film/MrAndMrsSmith'', Brad Pitt takes shelter from Angelina Jolie's [=UMP45=] by hiding behind a fridge door (though it was definitely a very expensive stainless steel fridge; the stopping effect on .45 ACP bullets on a particular fridge of this type can only be tested). Later, when he tries to peek around a corner, she shoots through the wall and almost hits him.

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* In ''Film/MrAndMrsSmith'', ''Film/MrAndMrsSmith2005'', Brad Pitt takes shelter from Angelina Jolie's [=UMP45=] by hiding behind a fridge door (though it was definitely a very expensive stainless steel fridge; the stopping effect on .45 ACP bullets on a particular fridge of this type can only be tested). Later, when he tries to peek around a corner, she shoots through the wall and almost hits him.
27th Jun '17 8:04:40 AM AkiTendo
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', it is perfectly permissible to take cover behind lamp posts or thin trees in order to block gunfire as long as you're standing directly opposite the opponent, even though you should be broader than the cover. Many enemies may even lose track of you if they can't make direct eye contact. It's far from uncommon for a supermutant with a minigun to run up and look for you behind a lamp post. (Although supermutants aren't known to be very bright, so it fits.) Also, due to the general lack of destroyable landscape objects, everything is bulletproof and only takes a few cosmetic bullet holes [[EveryCarIsAPinto (though hiding behind any kind of vehicle is usually a really bad idea.)]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series.
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In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', it is perfectly permissible to take cover behind lamp posts or thin trees in order to block gunfire as long as you're standing directly opposite the opponent, even though you should be broader than the cover. Many enemies may even lose track of you if they can't make direct eye contact. It's far from uncommon for a supermutant with a minigun to run up and look for you behind a lamp post. (Although supermutants aren't known to be very bright, so it fits.) Also, due to the general lack of destroyable landscape objects, everything is bulletproof and only takes a few cosmetic bullet holes [[EveryCarIsAPinto (though hiding behind any kind of vehicle is usually a really bad idea.)]])]]
** All of the above persists in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', but now some objects (shrubs, chain link fences, floor grates) can be shot through. The game also adds the Penetrator perk as an option for characters with a high perception allowing them to shoot limbs through what would otherwise be hard cover, though there still must be enough of the foe visible to pick them up in VATS.
26th Jun '17 8:05:06 PM TMB
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* A couple weeks prior to this during a sandstorm which covered most of southern Iraq, Iraqi resistance teams attempted to rush American tank units thinking the sandstorm was good enough to keep the Americans from firing at all. Apparently they forgot that the Iraqi Army was soundly defeated in the first war due in part to American infrared targeting systems.
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