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24th Jul '17 3:07:31 PM TheSinful
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* In ''[[http://cartoon.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600095039 How I Learned to Love the Wild Horse]]'', Brittany informs [[WesternAnimation/TotallySpies WOOHP]] of the [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Nerima Wrecking Crew]] and cites that she believes them to be a terrorist organization with Ranma as their leader. Ranma has recently moved to Beverly Hills and enrolled in the same school as the girls, so Jerry has them put him under surveillance to learn his motives for coming to America. It's later revealed that Brittany was helping Ranma get away from Nerima and he was going to be hired as a martial arts instructor for [=WOOHP=] but the organization doesn't usually do bodyguard details so she instead told them he was a terrorist leader. Why she couldn't tell the truth and ask for an exception is never explained.
29th Jun '17 5:10:49 AM no_name86
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--->'''Apollo:''' I've seen {{Rube Goldberg|Device}} machines that were less complicated.

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--->'''Apollo:''' I've seen (Yeesh, {{Rube Goldberg|Device}} machines that were have less complicated.elaborate setups than L'Belle's scheme...)
27th Jun '17 5:55:52 PM immortalfrieza
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* Lampshaded in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' by Robot Devil: "Ah, my ridiculously-circuitous plan is one-quarter complete!" Said plan being a ChainOfDeals that started by taking Bender's ass-plate in exchange for a horn nose. Bender uses the horn nose to deafen Leela, whom the Robot Devil offers a pair of robotic ears to so she can hear Fry's Holophonor opera. She agrees on the condition of giving him her hand [[spoiler:[[ReadTheFinePrint in marriage]], which allows the Robot Devil to negotiate the return of his own hands from Fry, who had won them in a game with the Robot Devil]].

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* Lampshaded in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' by Robot Devil: "Ah, my ridiculously-circuitous plan is one-quarter complete!" Said plan being a ChainOfDeals that started by taking Bender's ass-plate in exchange for a horn nose. Bender uses the horn nose to deafen Leela, whom the Robot Devil offers a pair of robotic ears to so she can hear Fry's Holophonor opera. She agrees on the condition of giving him her hand [[spoiler:[[ReadTheFinePrint in marriage]], which allows the Robot Devil to negotiate the return of his own hands from Fry, who had won them in a game with the Robot Devil]]. Hilariously, a later episode reveals that going through this was unnecessary anyway, the Robot Devil has multiple replacement bodies anyway therefore he could have switched out Fry's hands for one of the ones from the extra bodies easily enough.
27th Jun '17 2:19:08 PM Austin
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** The Riddler, despite "going straight" for a while, [[StatusQuoIsGod eventually got back into the habit]]. The Cluemaster, on the other hand, managed to kick the clue-leaving compulsion, and became a (comparatively) more cunning villain. Riddler tried to do normal crimes at one point, but was caught because he was leaving riddles... that he never actually intended to leave and was terrified after discovering he'd left. This convinced him he was actually mentally ill and needed professional help. This is something of a FatalFlaw for old Eddie - if he just went for straightforward criminal plots, he'd be pretty successful, but his obsession is not with gaining wealth but with decisively outdoing Batman, and what better way to prove you're better than winning with a handicap?

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** The Riddler, ComicBook/TheRiddler, despite "going straight" for a while, [[StatusQuoIsGod eventually got back into the habit]]. The Cluemaster, on the other hand, managed to kick the clue-leaving compulsion, and became a (comparatively) more cunning villain. Riddler tried to do normal crimes at one point, but was caught because he was leaving riddles... that he never actually intended to leave and was terrified after discovering he'd left. This convinced him he was actually mentally ill and needed professional help. This is something of a FatalFlaw for old Eddie - if he just went for straightforward criminal plots, he'd be pretty successful, but his obsession is not with gaining wealth but with decisively outdoing Batman, and what better way to prove you're better than winning with a handicap?



* Pretty much every plan come up with by the Legion of Doom in ''WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriends''. This was probably due to there being thirteen members and wanting everyone to seem like a participating member. It didn't help that the show's version of The Riddler had no purpose but to tip off the heroes how to beat the current scheme.

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* Pretty much every plan come up with by the Legion of Doom in ''WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriends''.''[[WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}} Challenge Of The SuperFriends]]''. This was probably due to there being thirteen members and wanting everyone to seem like a participating member. It didn't help that the show's version of The Riddler had no purpose but to tip off the heroes how to beat the current scheme.
24th Jun '17 6:36:21 AM jamespolk
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* ''Film/JourneyIntoFear'': The Nazis, Muller and Banat. They concoct an elaborate stylish murder plot involving a stage magic show, rather than just dragging Graham into an alley and shooting him; then they go to all the trouble of smuggling him off the boat rather than, say, whacking him over the head and chucking him overboard.



*** In ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'', Voldemort sends a [[TheMole Mole]] to Hogwarts to kidnap Harry so as to use his blood in Voldemort's resurrection ritual. They do this by taking a full year to build the mole's false identity, force Harry to participate in the Triwizard Tournament against his will, rig the tournament to let him win, and enchant the trophy to teleport him to the ritual site. The mole apparently does not think to use his trusted position of authority to whack Harry over the head, shove him into his magic chest, and smuggle him out of Hogwarts in the first week of class.

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*** In ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'', Voldemort sends a [[TheMole Mole]] to Hogwarts to kidnap Harry so as to use his blood in Voldemort's resurrection ritual. They do this by taking a full year to build the mole's false identity, force Harry to participate in the Triwizard Tournament against his will, rig the tournament to let him win, and enchant the trophy to teleport him to the ritual site. The mole apparently does not think to use his trusted position of authority to whack Harry over the head, shove him into his magic chest, and smuggle him out of Hogwarts in the first week of class. Or to make any random object into his office into a Portkey, invite Harry in, and arrange for him to touch it.
20th Jun '17 2:39:22 PM Prometheus117
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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': Makuta's original plan failed. So he came with something even more complicated that required thousands of years of precise timing, careful execution, reliance on [[JustAsPlanned his opponents doing exactly what he expected them to do in trying to foil his schemes]], and even his [[ThanatosGambit own potential death]]. Some of his allies seriously complain about the over-complexity, wanting to simply use brute force instead, and a running joke among the Brotherhood was that he had back-up plans in place for his breakfast. Heck, Makuta himself even seemed aware of his addiction, as at several points he admitted to having "schemes within schemes" that would tear apart his enemies' minds if they tried to seriously decipher them (this is, in fact, NotHyperbole-look at Zaktan).

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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': Makuta's original plan failed. So he came with something even more complicated that required thousands of years of precise timing, careful execution, reliance on [[JustAsPlanned his opponents doing exactly what he expected them to do in trying to foil his schemes]], and even his [[ThanatosGambit own potential death]]. Some of his allies seriously complain about the over-complexity, wanting to simply use brute force instead, and a running joke among the Brotherhood was that he had back-up plans in place for his breakfast. Heck, Makuta himself even seemed aware of his addiction, as at several points he admitted to having "schemes within schemes" that would tear apart his enemies' minds if they tried to seriously decipher them (this is, in fact, NotHyperbole-look at Zaktan). [[spoiler:And it [[TheBadGuyWins WORKED]], with no one the wiser until he literally came out and revealed it]].
18th Jun '17 8:40:57 AM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': [[ArcVillain Master Xehanort]] could give the aforementioned [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Sosuke Aizen]], [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Riddler]], etc., a run for their money in terms of KudzuPlot plans. Case in point: According to ''3D: Dream Drop Distance'', everything in the previous games has [[GambitRoulette somehow]] been AllAccordingToPlan via [[DiabolusExMachina secret]] powers that overlap [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot]] with [[spoiler:StableTimeLoop [[note]]He even went as far as to [[BeyondTheImpossible cause his own]] StartOfDarkness![[/note]]]]. ...Given that other, more-straightforward [[spoiler:TimeTravel]] methods have been demonstrated in a couple of games, one wonders why he didn't just look for them in order to exploit the [[spoiler:original Keyblade War]] instead of working so feverishly to [[spoiler:recreate it]].
17th Jun '17 2:37:48 PM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''
** [[BigBad Master Xehanort]], [[KudzuPlot hoo-boy]]. While it's true that starting a new Keyblade War [[note]]The only way to forge the [[Creator/MarvelComics Infinity Gauntlet]]-like X-Blade.[[/note]] isn't exactly easy by any means, what's indeed ridiculous is trying to do so via multi-game, GambitRoulette overlap of [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot [[note]]Which ultimately requires him to gamble his own AnatomyOfTheSoul for DemonicPossession purposes.[[/note]]]], MesACrowd [[note]]His sizable collection of [[LiteralSplitPersonality Literal Split Personalities]], {{Reincarnation}}s, etc., each of whom serves as a different BigBad in their own right.[[/note]], and [[spoiler:StableTimeLoop [[note]]Which actually destines him to fail several times before finally succeeding.[[/note]]]]. Given games such as ''Kingdom Hearts II'' and ''Kingdom Hearts X'' revealing that there does exist [[spoiler:TimeTravel]] magic that's both less-limited and much-simpler than his, one can't help but wonder why he didn't just pursue that avenue and -- say -- [[spoiler:go back to centuries/millennia ago, then just exploit the original War]]. It also doesn't help one bit that he repeatedly invokes KickTheDog and ObviouslyEvil [[note]]Both of which, he sees as necessary to invoke INeedYouStronger on certain [[spoiler:GrandTheftMe]] targets.[[/note]], thus driving many [[SpannerInTheWorks Spanners in the Works]] to ultimately wise up and focus on subverting him specifically.
17th Jun '17 2:10:37 PM Peridonyx
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** [[BigBad Master Xehanort]], [[KudzuPlot hoo-boy]]. While it's true that starting a new Keyblade War [[note]]The only way to forge the [[Creator/MarvelComics Infinity Gauntlet]]-like X-Blade.[[/note]] isn't exactly easy by any means, what's indeed ridiculous is trying to do so via multi-game, GambitRoulette overlap of [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot [[note]]Which ultimately requires him to gamble his own AnatomyOfTheSoul for DemonicPossession purposes.[[/note]]]], MesACrowd [[note]]His sizable collection of [[LiteralSplitPersonality Literal Split Personalities]], {{Reincarnation}}s, etc., each of whom serves as a different BigBad in his own right.[[/note]], and [[spoiler:StableTimeLoop [[note]]Which actually destines him to fail several times before finally succeeding.[[/note]]]]. Given games such as ''Kingdom Hearts II'' and ''Kingdom Hearts X'' revealing that there does exist [[spoiler:TimeTravel]] magic that's both less-limited and much-simpler than his, one can't help but wonder why he didn't just pursue that avenue and -- say -- [[spoiler:go back to centuries/millennia ago, then just exploit the original War]]. It also doesn't help one bit that he repeatedly invokes KickTheDog and ObviouslyEvil [[note]]Both of which, he sees as necessary to invoke INeedYouStronger on certain [[spoiler:GrandTheftMe]] targets.[[/note]], thus driving many [[SpannerInTheWorks Spanners in the Works]] to ultimately wise up and focus on subverting him specifically.

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** [[BigBad Master Xehanort]], [[KudzuPlot hoo-boy]]. While it's true that starting a new Keyblade War [[note]]The only way to forge the [[Creator/MarvelComics Infinity Gauntlet]]-like X-Blade.[[/note]] isn't exactly easy by any means, what's indeed ridiculous is trying to do so via multi-game, GambitRoulette overlap of [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot [[note]]Which ultimately requires him to gamble his own AnatomyOfTheSoul for DemonicPossession purposes.[[/note]]]], MesACrowd [[note]]His sizable collection of [[LiteralSplitPersonality Literal Split Personalities]], {{Reincarnation}}s, etc., each of whom serves as a different BigBad in his their own right.[[/note]], and [[spoiler:StableTimeLoop [[note]]Which actually destines him to fail several times before finally succeeding.[[/note]]]]. Given games such as ''Kingdom Hearts II'' and ''Kingdom Hearts X'' revealing that there does exist [[spoiler:TimeTravel]] magic that's both less-limited and much-simpler than his, one can't help but wonder why he didn't just pursue that avenue and -- say -- [[spoiler:go back to centuries/millennia ago, then just exploit the original War]]. It also doesn't help one bit that he repeatedly invokes KickTheDog and ObviouslyEvil [[note]]Both of which, he sees as necessary to invoke INeedYouStronger on certain [[spoiler:GrandTheftMe]] targets.[[/note]], thus driving many [[SpannerInTheWorks Spanners in the Works]] to ultimately wise up and focus on subverting him specifically.
17th Jun '17 2:09:54 PM Peridonyx
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** [[BigBad Master Xehanort]], [[KudzuPlot hoo-boy]]. While it's true that starting a new Keyblade War [[note]]The only way to forge the [[Creator/MarvelComics Infinity Gauntlet]]-like X-Blade.[[/note]] isn't exactly easy by any means, what's indeed ridiculous is trying to do so via multi-game, GambitRoulette overlap of [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot [[note]]Which ultimately requires him to gamble his own AnatomyOfTheSoul.[[/note]]]] and [[spoiler:StableTimeLoop [[note]]Which actually destines him to fail several times before finally succeeding.[[/note]]]]. Given games such as ''Kingdom Hearts II'' and ''Kingdom Hearts X'' revealing that there does exist [[spoiler:TimeTravel]] magic that's both less-limited and much-simpler than his, one can't help but wonder why he didn't just pursue that avenue and -- say -- [[spoiler:go back to centuries/millennia ago, then just exploit the original War]]. It also doesn't help one bit that he repeatedly invokes KickTheDog and ObviouslyEvil [[note]]Both of which, he sees as necessary to invoke INeedYouStronger on certain [[spoiler:GrandTheftMe]] targets.[[/note]], thus driving many [[SpannerInTheWorks Spanners in the Works]] to ultimately wise up and focus on subverting him specifically.

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** [[BigBad Master Xehanort]], [[KudzuPlot hoo-boy]]. While it's true that starting a new Keyblade War [[note]]The only way to forge the [[Creator/MarvelComics Infinity Gauntlet]]-like X-Blade.[[/note]] isn't exactly easy by any means, what's indeed ridiculous is trying to do so via multi-game, GambitRoulette overlap of [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot [[note]]Which ultimately requires him to gamble his own AnatomyOfTheSoul.[[/note]]]] AnatomyOfTheSoul for DemonicPossession purposes.[[/note]]]], MesACrowd [[note]]His sizable collection of [[LiteralSplitPersonality Literal Split Personalities]], {{Reincarnation}}s, etc., each of whom serves as a different BigBad in his own right.[[/note]], and [[spoiler:StableTimeLoop [[note]]Which actually destines him to fail several times before finally succeeding.[[/note]]]]. Given games such as ''Kingdom Hearts II'' and ''Kingdom Hearts X'' revealing that there does exist [[spoiler:TimeTravel]] magic that's both less-limited and much-simpler than his, one can't help but wonder why he didn't just pursue that avenue and -- say -- [[spoiler:go back to centuries/millennia ago, then just exploit the original War]]. It also doesn't help one bit that he repeatedly invokes KickTheDog and ObviouslyEvil [[note]]Both of which, he sees as necessary to invoke INeedYouStronger on certain [[spoiler:GrandTheftMe]] targets.[[/note]], thus driving many [[SpannerInTheWorks Spanners in the Works]] to ultimately wise up and focus on subverting him specifically.
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