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16th Feb '17 7:29:52 PM nombretomado
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For a useful and reasonable definition and tutorial on how not to make a Mary Sue, see here:[[http://hatedlove6.[[http://hatedlove6.deviantart.com/art/Mary-Sues-Part-1-185285110]]com/art/Mary-Sues-Part-1-185285110 here]]:
1st Feb '17 3:48:45 PM margdean56
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* SympatheticSue has an unusually DarkAndTroubledPast to the excess, but other subtypes often have them too, just to emphasize how brave and special she is to live through it. This past is never really a point in the story, just dropped casually into the conversation to get attention. Alternatively it's written badly owing to not doing much research. How much she {{Wangst}}s about it is usually out of proportion with how bad it really is.

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* SympatheticSue has an unusually DarkAndTroubledPast to the excess, but other subtypes often have them too, just to emphasize how brave and special she is to live through it. This past is never really a point in the story, just dropped casually into the conversation to get attention. Alternatively it's written badly owing to not doing much research. How much she {{Wangst}}s about it is usually out of proportion with how bad it really is.
1st Feb '17 3:37:37 PM margdean56
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* SoBeautifulItsACurse[[{{Tradesnark}} ]]. While being attractive isn't a qualifier of MarySue (who ''wants'' to be ugly?), it's a bit excessive to try and play it as being some sort of disadvantage. Alternatively, she may only be SuetifulAllAlong. In an AntiSue, this is reversed into a hideous monster. Regardless, her astounding beauty (or astounding lack of it) will make her stand out from the crowd - [[InformedAttractiveness or so we're constantly being told]].
* [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair Unusual hair]] relative to canon is another common characteristic of MarySue. Alternatively, these features may be [[WhatBeautifulEyes amazing]] in other ways - shining and shimmering eyes, or AnimeHair in non-Anime fandoms. RapunzelHair is also common.

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* SoBeautifulItsACurse[[{{Tradesnark}} ]]. While being attractive isn't a qualifier of MarySue (who ''wants'' to be ugly?), it's a bit excessive to try and play it as being some sort of disadvantage. Alternatively, she may only be SuetifulAllAlong. In an AntiSue, this is reversed into a hideous monster. Regardless, her astounding beauty (or astounding lack of it) will make her stand out from the crowd - -- [[InformedAttractiveness or so we're constantly being told]].
* [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair Unusual hair]] relative to canon is another common characteristic of MarySue. Alternatively, these features may be [[WhatBeautifulEyes amazing]] in other ways - -- shining and shimmering eyes, or AnimeHair in non-Anime fandoms. RapunzelHair is also common.



** More important than colour is [[SkunkStripe highlights]]. Of course hair dye is nothing special, but somehow Sue's streaks are not only a colour completely different from the base, but also ''natural''. Nature allows ''some'' leeway here - blonds with dark roots aren't unheard of, but that's not what Sues are after. Similarly, these "natural" highlights are often a color such as blue, pink, purple or [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair any other color that doesn't occur naturally in hair outside anime.]]

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** More important than colour is [[SkunkStripe highlights]]. Of course hair dye is nothing special, but somehow Sue's streaks are not only a colour completely different from the base, but also ''natural''. Nature allows ''some'' leeway here - -- blonds with dark roots aren't unheard of, of -- but that's not what Sues are after. Similarly, these "natural" highlights are often a color such as blue, pink, purple or [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair any other color that doesn't occur naturally in hair outside anime.]]



* MismatchedEyes or heterochromia, are a common alternate choice.

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* MismatchedEyes MismatchedEyes, or heterochromia, are a common alternate choice.



** MarySue is also never depicted as putting too much effort into maintaining her body; she may get an AdrenalineMakeOver, but she ''never'' has to diet or exercise (she may exercise for other reasons, but ''never'' just to maintain a certain weight or to look a certain way) or use any cosmetic products, she just naturally looks (the author's idea of) perfect and usually doesn't understand why everyone is so impressed by her effortlessly flawless appearance. Most real-life models--male and female--spend ''hours'' a day working out and maintaining their physique because being beautiful is literally their job.

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** MarySue is also never depicted as putting too much effort into maintaining her body; she may get an AdrenalineMakeOver, but she ''never'' has to diet or exercise (she may exercise for other reasons, but ''never'' just to maintain a certain weight or to look a certain way) or use any cosmetic products, she products. She just naturally looks (the author's idea of) perfect and usually doesn't understand why everyone is so impressed by her effortlessly flawless appearance. Most real-life models--male and female--spend ''hours'' a day working out and maintaining their physique because being beautiful is literally their job.



** Likewise, if MarySue has a birthmark, it will be in a significant shape (heart, half moon, etc.) and never in a place that compromises her beauty. Expect the Mary Sue to consider the birthmark to make her unattractive. This will be despite the fact that other characters insist that the birthmark makes her more attractive, especially in comparison to physically flawless characters.

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** Likewise, if MarySue has a birthmark, it will be in a significant shape (heart, half moon, etc.) and never in a place that compromises her beauty. Expect the Mary Sue to consider think the birthmark to make makes her unattractive. This will be despite the fact that other characters insist that the birthmark makes her more attractive, especially in comparison to physically flawless characters.



* If you're on a roleplay site that takes faceclaims or playbys (celebrities that represent what the character looks like), you can bet their faceclaim will be someone who's [[YoungerThanTheyLook in their late 20's while the character is 16.]] And you'll be lucky to find one that doesn't use a faceclaim who's universally perceived as lovely. (Creator/MeganFox, Music/SelenaGomez, Miranda Kerr, Adriana Lima and other Victoria's Secrets models...) Bonus points if it's an emo-sue with Amy Lee as their face.
* If they are some sort of animal or generally nonhuman species, they may have strange and unnatural fur colours - even outside of the aforementioned purple. Also expect colour combinations that clash horrifically (especially in text where thought will not have been put into how they actually ''look'').

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* If you're on a roleplay site that takes faceclaims or playbys (celebrities that represent what the character looks like), you can bet their faceclaim will be someone who's [[YoungerThanTheyLook in their late 20's 20s while the character is 16.]] And you'll be lucky to find one that doesn't use a faceclaim who's universally perceived as lovely. (Creator/MeganFox, Music/SelenaGomez, Miranda Kerr, Adriana Lima and other Victoria's Secrets models...) Bonus points if it's an emo-sue with Amy Lee as their face.
* If they are some sort of animal or generally nonhuman species, they may have strange and unnatural fur colours - -- even outside of the aforementioned purple. Also expect colour combinations that clash horrifically (especially in text where thought will not have been put into how they actually ''look'').



* Their skin color either the same as the author's or what the author views as the prettiest/ideal skin color. Because of this, Mary Sues are usually white (and often a pale shade of white,) but darker-skinned Sues are not unheard of (see the section on ethnicity below.)

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* Their skin color is either the same as the author's or what the author views as the prettiest/ideal skin color. Because of this, Mary Sues are usually white (and often a pale shade of white,) but darker-skinned Sues are not unheard of (see the section on ethnicity below.)
1st Feb '17 3:26:34 PM margdean56
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* Inexplicable and/or poorly-defined abilities in general, especially if they [[InformedAbility play no factor in the plot]] after their introduction (not even as a [[RequiredSecondaryPowers Required Secondary Power]]) and are only there to make the character seem even more awesome.
* Regardless of what skill level the canon characters have established, she might just simply be ''better'' than them, often in ways that [[PlotInducedStupidity do not make sense]]. Not to mention that if she isn't already skilled at something, [[InstantExpert she'll pick it up in a fraction of the time required]] - [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands if she even needs to learn them at all]]. She/he may have powers similar to what the other characters have, only with [[StoryBreakerPower all of the downsides and limitations removed]].

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* Inexplicable and/or poorly-defined abilities in general, especially if they [[InformedAbility play no factor role in the plot]] after their introduction (not even as a [[RequiredSecondaryPowers Required Secondary Power]]) and are only there to make the character seem even more awesome.
* Regardless of what skill level the canon characters have established, she might just simply be ''better'' than them, often in ways that [[PlotInducedStupidity do not make sense]]. Not to mention that if she isn't already skilled at something, [[InstantExpert she'll pick it up in a fraction of the time required]] - -- [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands if she even needs to learn them it at all]]. She/he may have powers similar to what the other characters have, only with [[StoryBreakerPower all of the downsides and limitations removed]].



* Absurd natural athletic ability - she can run like the wind without ever having worked on her running, and has impossibly high acrobatic skills.
* And with all this - don't expect the GreenEyedMonster to show up. Envy appears in the Mary Sue's life only as a means of angst, and so does not appear just because the Mary Sue has everything.

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* Absurd natural athletic ability - -- she can run like the wind without ever having worked on her running, and has impossibly high acrobatic skills.
* And with all this - -- don't expect the GreenEyedMonster to show up. Envy appears in the Mary Sue's life only as a means of angst, and so does not appear just because the Mary Sue has everything.



* {{Mary Sue}}s always has excellent fashion sense, even if she's meant to be a rough-and-tumble {{Tomboy}} type who doesn't care about that sort of thing, she will always look [[UnkemptBeauty effortlessly beautiful]] and other characters, often males, will frequently talk about how they like that she isn't as high maintenance as other girls (if she has a female rival they might mention her specifically.)

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* {{Mary Sue}}s Sue}} always has excellent fashion sense, even sense. Even if she's meant to be a rough-and-tumble {{Tomboy}} type who doesn't care about that sort of thing, she will always look [[UnkemptBeauty effortlessly beautiful]] and other characters, often males, will frequently talk about how they like that she isn't as high maintenance as other girls (if she has a female rival they might mention her specifically.)specifically).
1st Feb '17 3:21:18 PM margdean56
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* ''What'' personality? In these cases, it's fairly blatant the author is just writing the character for amazing stuff to happen ''to'' instead of a character that actually exists as a person. Obviously, this is only a MarySue trait if what happens gives the character [[TouchedByVorlons special powers]], fantastic romances, or somehow lets her be a [[BigDamnHeroes big damned heroine]]; otherwise it's just another faceless first-person perspective.
** The personality of a MarySue - if she has one - is not nearly as important as how other characters react to it. No matter how shy or socially awkward MarySue is ''supposed'' to be, other characters will be drawn to her and inexplicably prefer her company over that of anyone else, all of her ideas are brilliant, all of her jokes are funny, all of her advice is an amazing breakthrough, people will trust her immediately, or very quickly, and feel more comfortable talking to her than to anyone else (even their own family or their significant other) even if she hasn't done or said anything to make them feel that way about her.

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* ''What'' personality? In these cases, it's fairly blatant that the author is just writing the character for amazing stuff to happen ''to'' instead of a character that actually exists as a person. Obviously, this is only a MarySue trait if what happens gives the character [[TouchedByVorlons special powers]], fantastic romances, or somehow lets her be a [[BigDamnHeroes big damned heroine]]; otherwise it's just another faceless first-person perspective.
** The personality of a MarySue - -- if she has one - -- is not nearly as important as how other characters react to it. No matter how shy or socially awkward MarySue is ''supposed'' to be, other characters will be drawn to her and inexplicably prefer her company over that of anyone else, all else. All of her ideas are brilliant, all of her jokes are funny, all of her advice is an amazing breakthrough, people breakthrough. People will trust her immediately, or very quickly, and feel more comfortable talking to her than to anyone else (even their own family or their significant other) other), even if she hasn't done or said anything to make them feel that way about her.



** MarySue doesn't have to actually ''do'' anything to be considered a good person, she just ''is'' good and by extension anything she does is good and even when she does nothing she brings more good into the world simply by existing than any other character ever could. Goodness just seems to seep out of her body like radiation.
* [[EasyEvangelism Highly persuasive]], regardless of the actual content of their conversations. Everyone finds her opinions are just better than their own - [[CharacterDerailment even when they're usually stubborn bastards]]. This is especially likely in an AuthorTract.

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** MarySue doesn't have to actually ''do'' anything to be considered a good person, she person--she just ''is'' good and by extension good. By extension, anything she does is good good, and even when she does nothing she brings more good into the world simply by existing than any other character ever could. Goodness just seems to seep out of her body like radiation.
* [[EasyEvangelism Highly persuasive]], regardless of the actual content of their the conversations. Everyone finds her opinions are just better than their own - -- [[CharacterDerailment even when they're usually stubborn bastards]]. This is especially likely in an AuthorTract.



** She [[AllLovingHero loves everyone and forgives them all for their imperfections]], [[MartyrWithoutACause plus she is willing to save, protect or risk all]] [[TheDulcineaEffect for the sake of someone she has met just seconds ago]].
* Is either [[GenkiGirl brave and cheerful]] ([[ThePollyanna despite her past]]-- [[RealityIsUnrealistic not unheard of in real life]], but with Sues it tends to come across as AngstWhatAngst), or [[{{Wangst}} unnecessarily mopey and depressed]].

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** She [[AllLovingHero loves everyone and forgives them all for their imperfections]], imperfections]]. [[MartyrWithoutACause plus Plus she is willing to save, protect or risk all]] [[TheDulcineaEffect for the sake of someone she has met just seconds ago]].
* Is either [[GenkiGirl brave and cheerful]] ([[ThePollyanna despite her past]]-- past]] -- [[RealityIsUnrealistic not unheard of in real life]], but with Sues it tends to come across as AngstWhatAngst), AngstWhatAngst) -- or [[{{Wangst}} unnecessarily mopey and depressed]].
30th Jan '17 3:57:04 PM Tikaya
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* Descriptions of her looks are usually overly-detailed and distinctly [[PurpleProse violet-hued]]. Because saying she's slim with long black hair and blue eyes only tells you what she looks like. Saying she's a delicate, willowy goddess with flowing tresses that shimmer onyx like the feathers of a raven and sparkling cerulean orbs that shine like the ocean and radiate with femininity tells you she's ''special''. Likewise she will describe her clothing in pretentious PurpleProse. Sometmes she'll do it with ''every'' outfit she wears.

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* Descriptions of her looks are usually overly-detailed and distinctly [[PurpleProse violet-hued]]. Because saying she's slim with long black hair and blue eyes only tells you what she looks like. Saying she's a delicate, willowy goddess with flowing tresses that shimmer onyx like the feathers of a raven and sparkling cerulean orbs that shine like the ocean and radiate with femininity tells you she's ''special''. Likewise she will describe her clothing in pretentious PurpleProse. Sometmes Sometimes she'll do it with ''every'' outfit she wears.
21st Jan '17 11:14:29 AM KoolKoopaGirl
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** Yet another variant is to make the Sue the "WhiteSheep of the family". Literally everyone else in her family eats babies, except the Sue, which makes her ''special''.
21st Jan '17 11:11:41 AM KoolKoopaGirl
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10th Jan '17 11:59:12 AM CheeseDogX
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** Villains, or [[RonTheDeathEater characters made into villains]] will spend every waking moment obsessing over real or imagined slights caused by the Sue, and everything they do will be to cause the Sue's downfall.
8th Jan '17 2:51:06 PM infernape612
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** You remember that dark, brooding, emotionally closed-off character who always had his guard up and never confided in anyone? well, little did you know, he had a best friend/relative/therapist/love interest who was the only person he ever felt comfortable talking to and he told her all of his hopes and dreams and secret motivations.

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** You remember that dark, brooding, emotionally closed-off character who always had his guard up and never confided in anyone? well, Well, little did you know, he had a best friend/relative/therapist/love interest who was the only person he ever felt comfortable talking to and he told her all of his hopes and dreams and secret motivations.
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