History Main / CommonMarySueTraits

11th Apr '16 8:55:37 AM ObsidianFire
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* FriendToAllLivingThings. It's becoming gradually less common as authors [[GenreSavvy catch on]] to the MarySueClassic framework.

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* FriendToAllLivingThings. It's becoming gradually less common as authors [[GenreSavvy catch on]] on to the MarySueClassic framework.



* May be named after the author in some form. Becoming less frequent as people [[GenreSavvy catch on]] to the Litmus Tests.

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* May be named after the author in some form. Becoming less frequent as people [[GenreSavvy catch on]] on to the Litmus Tests.
20th Mar '16 4:06:19 PM Tightwire
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* She might turn out to secretly be [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human, half-(insert species here)]]. Or maybe just full (insert species here). [[OurElvesAreBetter Elf]] is an extremely common choice, but any sufficiently human looking, [[TheBeautifulElite "pretty" race]] will work. For added points, make her feel [[{{Emo}} outright shame]] because she's not human even although, if anything, it only makes her [[FreakinessShame more beautiful]] [[CursedWithAwesome and/or powerful]].
** Or maybe she's a CuteMonsterGirl. Bonus points if this does not mesh with canon (i.e. canon dragon girls have heavy scales, flat chests, large talons for hands/feet, and are just flat out monstrous, but this character is just simply [[LittleBitBeastly human with dragon wings, tail, unobtrusive horns, and a couple random scales on her shoulders and midsection]]).
*** Similarly, if she's half-cat or dog, the only physical proof of this is that she'll have cute ears and a tail.
** Also common is vampire-anything (like a HalfVampire), with [[OurVampiresAreDifferent no discernible monstrous attributes or drawbacks]], which often leads to great amounts of PurpleProse or a CopyCatSue syndrome.
** In some cases she's somehow half-human + half-elf + half-[[Literature/HarryPotter veela]] + half-angel + half-[[DragonBall saiyan]] + half-godlike [[HeinzHybrid ridiculous hybrid creature]]. Bonus points if one or more of these races does not even exist in the story's canon, or if the end result would be illogical by definition (i.e. a half-demon/half-angel).
** If the character is already a UsefulNotes/{{Furry|Fandom}}, they'll typically be some [[MixAndMatchCritters incomprehensible hybrid]], a rare or little-used (always pretty) species, and/or have wings regardless of species.
** Bonus points if whatever species she is makes no sense in canon. Sure it's okay in a fantasy book, but in a regular fiction book there probably shouldn't be any elves walking around.
*** Even in a fantasy story, expect the Mary Sue to be the one character who violates explicit rules that apply to the races of the world. For instance, they will be the only female member of a one-gender race, or, in a world where all fantasy/human hybrids inherit no magical powers or physical traits of the fantasy race, they will be the only human hybrid to inherit the characteristics of that fantasy race. Sometimes writers will forgo giving the Mary Sue themselves these qualities, instead passing them onto their male love interest.
** If the author's views are liberal, she might be a (canon or OC) race that uses BlueAndOrangeMorality to justify EveryoneIsBi.
** InterspeciesRomance is also no object and everyone will be fine with it, even if falling in love outside of their own race is normally a taboo.
** If she is a race different from the main characters with a known disdain or even [[ImAHumanitarian taste]] for the protagonist's race, expect a serious case of MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. Don't expect there to be any explanation as to ''why'' she doesn't hate/eat the protagonist's race anymore (or how, if they were her primary prey, she's managed to find a replacement diet), but if an explanation is given it will usually tread all over established canon.
** Even more bonus points if the species he or she belongs to as a whole possesses Common Mary Sue Traits, such as great beauty, immensely strong powers, and an AlwaysLawfulGood nature.
** If there is a character in the original story who is explicitly TheLastOfHisKind (or her kind), Mary Sues will often be of that race, or a hybrid of that race.

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* She might turn out to secretly be [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human, half-(insert species here)]]. Or maybe some kind of HalfHumanHybrid. She could be crossed with just full (insert species here).about anything, but she's still beautiful. [[OurElvesAreBetter Elf]] is an extremely common choice, but any sufficiently human looking, [[TheBeautifulElite "pretty" race]] will work. For added points, make her feel [[{{Emo}} outright shame]] because she's not human even although, if anything, it only makes her [[FreakinessShame more beautiful]] [[CursedWithAwesome and/or powerful]].
** Or maybe she's a CuteMonsterGirl. Bonus points if this does not mesh with canon (i.e. canon dragon girls have heavy scales, flat chests, large talons for hands/feet, and are just flat out monstrous, but this character is just simply [[LittleBitBeastly human with dragon wings, tail, unobtrusive horns, and a couple random scales on her shoulders and midsection]]).
*** Similarly, if she's half-cat or dog, the only physical proof of this is that she'll have cute ears and a tail.
** Also common is vampire-anything (like a HalfVampire), with [[OurVampiresAreDifferent no discernible monstrous attributes or drawbacks]], which often leads to great amounts of PurpleProse or a CopyCatSue syndrome.
** In some cases she's somehow half-human + half-elf + half-[[Literature/HarryPotter veela]] + half-angel + half-[[DragonBall saiyan]] + half-godlike [[HeinzHybrid ridiculous hybrid creature]]. Bonus points if one or more of these races does not even exist in the story's canon, or if the end result would be illogical by definition (i.e. a half-demon/half-angel).
** If the character is already a UsefulNotes/{{Furry|Fandom}}, they'll typically be some [[MixAndMatchCritters incomprehensible hybrid]], a rare or little-used (always pretty) species, and/or have wings regardless of species.
** Bonus points if whatever species she is makes no sense in canon. Sure it's okay in a fantasy book, but in a regular fiction book there probably shouldn't be any elves walking around.
*** Even in a fantasy story, expect the Mary Sue to be the one character who violates explicit rules that apply to the races of the world. For instance, they will be the only female member of a one-gender race, or, in a world where all fantasy/human hybrids inherit no magical powers or physical traits of the fantasy race, they will be the only human hybrid to inherit the characteristics of that fantasy race. Sometimes writers will forgo giving the Mary Sue themselves these qualities, instead passing them onto their male love interest.
** If the author's views are liberal, she might be a (canon or OC) race that uses BlueAndOrangeMorality to justify EveryoneIsBi.
** InterspeciesRomance is also no object and everyone will be fine with it, even if falling in love outside of their own race is normally a taboo.
** If she is a race different from the main characters with a known disdain or even [[ImAHumanitarian taste]] for the protagonist's race, expect a serious case of MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch. Don't expect there to be any explanation as to ''why'' she doesn't hate/eat the protagonist's race anymore (or how, if they were her primary prey, she's managed to find a replacement diet), but if an explanation is given it will usually tread all over established canon.
** Even more bonus points if the species he or she belongs to as a whole possesses Common Mary Sue Traits, such as great beauty, immensely strong powers, and an AlwaysLawfulGood nature.
** If there is a character in the original story who is explicitly TheLastOfHisKind (or her kind), Mary Sues will often be of that race, or a hybrid of that race.race, just to keep him company.
11th Mar '16 1:28:08 PM MsChibi
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* A perfect singing voice. Most often shows up in MarySueClassic. This died out for a while, but is returning due to the popularity of pop divas. She may also have an extreme proficiency with an musical instrument of her choice.

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* A perfect singing voice. Most often shows up in MarySueClassic. This died out for a while, but is returning due to the popularity of pop divas. She may also have an extreme proficiency with an musical instrument of her choice. (BonusPoints if said instrument is something that would be ''highly'' improbable for her to know how to play, such as a PrincessClassic from medieval France who knows how to play the didgeridoo.)
1st Mar '16 10:29:11 PM MsChibi
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* She tends to not have normal sex, but [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex the most mind-blowingly divine sex ever]], regardless of how experienced she actually is. And her lover is often a DracoInLeatherPants quickly {{Heel Face Turn}}ed by her [[SexFaceTurn vagina]].

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* She tends to [[IdealizedSex not have have]] [[AnatomicallyImpossibleSex normal sex, sex]], but [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex the most mind-blowingly divine sex ever]], regardless of how experienced she actually is. (She is ''usually'', though not always, explicitly a virgin.) And her lover is often a DracoInLeatherPants quickly {{Heel Face Turn}}ed by her [[SexFaceTurn vagina]].



* VirginPower.



* If she has a pet, it will be exotic or fantastic. Wolves are very popular, despite being undomesticated and illegal to own in most countries. As are unicorns and dragons. If most characters canonically have a pet or familiar, she might have a menagerie. The animals will rarely even be mentioned after their initial appearance, and it will never bother explaining any special care (stables for horses, permits for foreign species, etc.) they require.

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* If she has a pet, it will be [[CoolPet exotic or fantastic. fantastic]]. Wolves are very popular, as are [[PantheraAwesome big cats]], despite being undomesticated and illegal to own in most countries. As are unicorns and dragons. If most characters canonically have a pet or familiar, she might have a menagerie. The animals will rarely even be mentioned after their initial appearance, and it will never bother explaining any special care (stables for horses, permits for foreign species, etc.) they require.
1st Mar '16 10:00:06 PM MsChibi
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* Mary Sues tend to be drastically underweight, and their authors may attempt to even instill Angst, claiming that their character is extremely overweight and even abused by other characters for their weight.

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* Mary Sues tend to be [[HollywoodThin drastically underweight, underweight]], and their authors may attempt to even instill Angst, claiming that their character is extremely overweight (or at least believes herself to be) and even [[HollywoodPudgy abused by other characters for their weight.weight]].


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* A VillainSue ''may'' have physical flaws, but a "good" Sue ''[[BeautyEqualsGoodness never]]'' [[BeautyEqualsGoodness will]]. Especially so if she happens to be a PuritySue and/or a RelationshipSue.
24th Feb '16 10:25:24 AM Beacon80
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** Sometime they'll use guns instead, especially if the setting doesn't usually have them, and in which case they're almost always [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolvers]]. Or a [[GatlingGood minigun]]. Or if [[AuthorAppeal they're particularly into firearms]], just check the list of RareGuns (Desert Eagle in particular). Often [[GunPorn as lavishly described as the outfits]]. And again, how exactly they managed to afford these is never explained.

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** Sometime they'll use guns instead, especially if the setting doesn't usually have them, and in which case they're almost always [[RevolversAreJustBetter revolvers]]. Or a [[GatlingGood minigun]]. Or if [[AuthorAppeal they're particularly into firearms]], just check the list of RareGuns (Desert Eagle in particular). Often [[GunPorn as lavishly described as the outfits]]. And again, how exactly they managed to afford these is never explained.


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* Music players, usually an iPod, are common. Rarely more than a device to let the Sue and canon characters [[AuthorAppeal listen to the songs the author likes]]. Bonus points if the songs and bands didn't exist at the time the story takes place. Even more bonus points if Mary Sue ends up in a low-tech fantasy realm, and people are more impressed by the amazing music than the device itself.


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* If she has a pet, it will be exotic or fantastic. Wolves are very popular, despite being undomesticated and illegal to own in most countries. As are unicorns and dragons. If most characters canonically have a pet or familiar, she might have a menagerie. The animals will rarely even be mentioned after their initial appearance, and it will never bother explaining any special care (stables for horses, permits for foreign species, etc.) they require.
* Bonus points to all of the above if Mary Sue is a poor orphan who should not be able to afford the item in question.
25th Jan '16 6:19:09 AM TheGreatAspara
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* She tends to not have normal sex, but [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex the most mind-blowingly divine sex ever]], regardless of how experienced she actually is. And her lover is often a DracoInLeatherPants quickly {{Heel Face Turn}}led by her [[SexFaceTurn vagina]].

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* She tends to not have normal sex, but [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex the most mind-blowingly divine sex ever]], regardless of how experienced she actually is. And her lover is often a DracoInLeatherPants quickly {{Heel Face Turn}}led Turn}}ed by her [[SexFaceTurn vagina]].
23rd Jan '16 6:54:13 AM Genesisera
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** Clumsiness is not a flaw. It is a potentially cute character trait and if it ''is'' implemented heavily enough into a character to be a flaw, the character devolves into PluckyComicRelief and if they are the protagonist, the story risks becoming pure slapstick.
* IJustWantToBeNormal: [[CursedWithAwesome Being super awesome is a curse]]. Now in a franchise like Franchise/XMen, a character can find their awesomeness a curse, but at the very least it's because mutants are feared and their powers can cause them serious problems. Mary Sue claims she wishes she was normal even when there's no actual downside to her powers.

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** Clumsiness in the MarySue is not seen as a flaw. It is flaw, but a potentially cute character trait and if trait. If it ''is'' implemented heavily enough into a character to be a flaw, the character devolves into PluckyComicRelief and if they are the protagonist, the story risks becoming pure slapstick.
* Unjustified IJustWantToBeNormal: [[CursedWithAwesome Being super awesome is a curse]]. Now in a franchise like Franchise/XMen, a character can find their awesomeness a curse, but at the very least it's because mutants are feared and their powers can cause them serious problems. Mary Sue claims The MarySue, on the other hand, will claim she wishes she was normal even when there's no actual downside to her powers.



* Regardless of what skill level the canon characters have established, she might just simply be ''better'' than them, often in ways that [[PlotInducedStupidity do not make sense]]. (See also: AlwaysSomeoneBetter, GodModeSue.) Not to mention that if she isn't already skilled at something, [[InstantExpert she'll pick it up in a fraction of the time required]] - [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands if she even needs to learn them at all]].
** Magical powers similar to what the other characters have, only with [[StoryBreakerPower the limitations removed]].
* A perfect singing voice. Most often shows up in MarySueClassic. This died out for a while, but is returning due to the popularity of pop divas.
** Extreme proficiency with an instrument of her choice.

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* Regardless of what skill level the canon characters have established, she might just simply be ''better'' than them, often in ways that [[PlotInducedStupidity do not make sense]]. (See also: AlwaysSomeoneBetter, GodModeSue.) Not to mention that if she isn't already skilled at something, [[InstantExpert she'll pick it up in a fraction of the time required]] - [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands if she even needs to learn them at all]].
** Magical
all]]. She/he may have powers similar to what the other characters have, only with [[StoryBreakerPower all of the downsides and limitations removed]].
** (See also: AlwaysSomeoneBetter, GodModeSue.)
* A perfect singing voice. Most often shows up in MarySueClassic. This died out for a while, but is returning due to the popularity of pop divas.
** Extreme
divas. She may also have an extreme proficiency with an musical instrument of her choice.



** Alternately, anybody who does get jealous is a bitch and is wrong. This is typically a single other character and may be DieForOurShip or for other reasons.
* MarySue always has excellent fashion sense, even if she's meant to be a rough-and-tumble {{Tomboy}} type who doesn't care about that sort of thing, she will always look effortlessly beautiful (UnkemptBeauty) and other characters, often males, will frequently talk about how they like that she isn't as high maintenance as other girls (if she has a female rival they might mention her specifically.)
* All skills and traits unusual for setting can pretty easily fall into this, since young authors usually forget to portray all consequences of picking a certain trade. For example, a medieval peasant girl will have no problems becoming a respected genius scholar.

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** Alternately, anybody who does get jealous is a bitch and [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality is wrong.wrong]]. This is typically a single other character and may be DieForOurShip or for other reasons.
* MarySue {{Mary Sue}}s always has excellent fashion sense, even if she's meant to be a rough-and-tumble {{Tomboy}} type who doesn't care about that sort of thing, she will always look [[UnkemptBeauty effortlessly beautiful (UnkemptBeauty) beautiful]] and other characters, often males, will frequently talk about how they like that she isn't as high maintenance as other girls (if she has a female rival they might mention her specifically.)
* All skills and traits unusual for the setting can pretty easily fall into this, since young authors usually forget to portray all consequences of picking a certain trade. For example, a medieval peasant girl will have no problems becoming a respected genius scholar.
23rd Jan '16 6:48:02 AM Genesisera
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* [[WriterOnBoard The author]] pits his characters against {{Straw Character}}(s) in order to [[AuthorFilibuster advocate his political opinions via the protagonist]], who is [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality invariably never wrong]].

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* [[WriterOnBoard The author]] pits his characters against {{Straw Character}}(s) Character}}s in order to [[AuthorFilibuster advocate his political opinions via the protagonist]], who is [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality invariably never wrong]].
23rd Jan '16 6:47:43 AM Genesisera
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* [[AuthorAvatar The author and the character have the same initials.]]
* [[WriterOnBoard The author]] pits his characters against {{StrawCharacter}}(s) in order to [[AuthorFilibuster advocate his political opinions via the protagonist]], who is [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality invariably never wrong]].

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* [[AuthorAvatar The author and the character have the same initials.]]
* [[WriterOnBoard The author]] pits his characters against {{StrawCharacter}}(s) {{Straw Character}}(s) in order to [[AuthorFilibuster advocate his political opinions via the protagonist]], who is [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality invariably never wrong]].
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