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28th Sep '16 4:40:40 AM ThatBitterTase
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* ''[[Literature/InheritanceCycle Eragon]]'' isn't the name of the dragon on the cover. It's the name of the farmboy who finds the dragon egg.

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* ''[[Literature/InheritanceCycle Eragon]]'' isn't the name of the dragon on the cover. It's the name of the farmboy who finds the dragon egg. The dragon is Saphira.
** The series was not "written by a teenager". Creator/ChristopherPaolini ''started'' writing the books when he was a teenager, but he ''finished'' the first book when he was nineteen (technically still "teenage", but legally an adult in the US), and the rest of the series in his twenties.
24th Sep '16 6:15:17 PM maxwellsilver
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All the same, these notions can be so firmly entrenched in the public zeitgeist that they can [[AscendedMeme force their way into adaptations]], much to the annoyance of the aforementioned [[FanDumb real true fans]].

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All the same, these notions can be so firmly entrenched in the public zeitgeist that they can [[AscendedMeme force their way into adaptations]], adaptations, much to the annoyance of the aforementioned [[FanDumb real true fans]].
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** Over the years, many non-fans of the franchise have gotten a good laugh from pointing out the apparent stupidity of a superhero having a WeaksauceWeakness to the color yellow, believing that yellow is GL's KryptoniteFactor. Actually, none of the Green Lanterns have been ''harmed'' by the color yellow, their power rings were just originally said to be ineffective against yellow objects (the same way that Superman's x-ray vision can't see through lead) because of an impurity within the Corps' power battery. That was retconned as a deliberate flaw meant to keep Green Lanterns from getting too full of themselves [[note]]Alan Scott's ring's weakness to wood was explained as the previous owner being a legendary Green Lantern who was almost killed by a yellow monster, so his ring's weakness was removed, making him invincible. He tyrannised the people he was meant to protect, so his ring was given a weakness to wood, allowing the villagers to club him to death.[[/note]] And even ''that'' part was retconned out: in the current comics, the power ring's ineffectiveness against yellow is said to be a rookie weakness that more experienced Lanterns can overcome.

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** Over the years, many non-fans of the franchise have gotten a good laugh from pointing out the apparent stupidity of a superhero having a WeaksauceWeakness to the color yellow, believing that yellow is GL's KryptoniteFactor. Actually, none of the Green Lanterns have been ''harmed'' by the color yellow, their power rings were just originally said to be ineffective against yellow objects (the same way that Superman's x-ray vision can't see through lead) because of an impurity within the Corps' power battery. That was retconned as a deliberate flaw meant to keep Green Lanterns from getting too full of themselves [[note]]Alan themselves. [[note]]In the same issue Alan Scott's ring's weakness to wood was explained as the previous owner being a legendary Green Lantern who was almost killed by a yellow monster, so his ring's weakness was removed, making him invincible. He tyrannised the people he was meant to protect, so his ring was given a weakness to wood, allowing the villagers to club him to death.[[/note]] And even ''that'' part was retconned out: in the current comics, the power ring's ineffectiveness against yellow is said to be a rookie weakness that more experienced Lanterns can overcome.
24th Sep '16 6:13:37 PM maxwellsilver
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** Even the most oft-cited example, from the climax of ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', isn't nearly as straightforward as many Batman fans seem to think it is. While Batman ''did'' undeniably hold his own against Superman in that story, many people seem to forget that [[spoiler: he cut the fight short by faking his death, essentially making the battle a draw]]. Also, [[WorfHadTheFlu it happened after Superman was cut off from the sun's rays by a nuclear explosion, struck by lightning while in his weakened state, and shot with a Kryptonite arrow]]...and even then, Batman was wearing [[PoweredArmor enhanced armor]]. And needless to say, [[ThouShaltNotKill Superman didn't want to kill Batman]], so he was holding back the entire fight. These are the only circumstances in which Batman was able to even hold his own against Superman.

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** Even the most oft-cited example, from the climax of ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', isn't nearly as straightforward as many Batman fans seem to think it is. While Batman ''did'' undeniably hold his own against Superman in that story, many people seem to forget that [[spoiler: he cut the fight short by faking his death, essentially making the battle a draw]]. draw. Also, [[WorfHadTheFlu it happened after Superman was cut off from the sun's rays by a nuclear explosion, struck by lightning while in his weakened state, and shot with a Kryptonite arrow]]...and even then, Batman was wearing [[PoweredArmor enhanced armor]]. armor. And needless to say, [[ThouShaltNotKill Superman didn't want to kill Batman]], Batman, so he was holding back the entire fight. These are the only circumstances in which Batman was able to even hold his own against Superman.



* Not only is there [[IAmNotShazam no superhero team called "The Watchmen"]] in ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', the story isn't about a team of superheroes at all. The six characters in the core cast were part of a ''proposed'' team called the Crimebusters that never actually formed (they disbanded after just one introductory meeting), but they spend the bulk of the story as independent and/or retired superheroes who just happen to have some close personal relationships with each other. Rorschach and Nite Owl are the only main characters who ever teamed up to [[TheyFightCrime fight crime.]] The title is a reference to ''Who watches the watchmen?,'' a real-life quotation which became an in-universe graffiti meme after citizens became disillusioned with superheroes.

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* Not only is there [[IAmNotShazam no superhero team called "The Watchmen"]] in ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', the story isn't about a team of superheroes at all. The six characters in the core cast were part of a ''proposed'' team called the Crimebusters that never actually formed (they disbanded after just one introductory meeting), but they spend the bulk of the story as independent and/or retired superheroes who just happen to have some close personal relationships with each other. Rorschach and Nite Owl are the only main characters who ever teamed up to [[TheyFightCrime fight crime.]] crime. The title is a reference to ''Who watches the watchmen?,'' a real-life quotation which became an in-universe graffiti meme after citizens became disillusioned with superheroes.



** Over the years, many non-fans of the franchise have gotten a good laugh from pointing out the apparent stupidity of a superhero having a weakness to [[WeaksauceWeakness the color yellow]], believing that yellow is GL's KryptoniteFactor. Actually, none of the Green Lanterns have been ''harmed'' by the color yellow, their power rings were just originally said to be ineffective against yellow objects (the same way that Superman's x-ray vision can't see through lead) because of an impurity within the Corps' power battery. And even ''that'' part was recently retconned out: in the current comics, the power ring's ineffectiveness against yellow is said to be a rookie weakness that more experienced Lanterns can overcome.

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** Over the years, many non-fans of the franchise have gotten a good laugh from pointing out the apparent stupidity of a superhero having a weakness WeaksauceWeakness to [[WeaksauceWeakness the color yellow]], yellow, believing that yellow is GL's KryptoniteFactor. Actually, none of the Green Lanterns have been ''harmed'' by the color yellow, their power rings were just originally said to be ineffective against yellow objects (the same way that Superman's x-ray vision can't see through lead) because of an impurity within the Corps' power battery. That was retconned as a deliberate flaw meant to keep Green Lanterns from getting too full of themselves [[note]]Alan Scott's ring's weakness to wood was explained as the previous owner being a legendary Green Lantern who was almost killed by a yellow monster, so his ring's weakness was removed, making him invincible. He tyrannised the people he was meant to protect, so his ring was given a weakness to wood, allowing the villagers to club him to death.[[/note]] And even ''that'' part was recently retconned out: in the current comics, the power ring's ineffectiveness against yellow is said to be a rookie weakness that more experienced Lanterns can overcome.



* The depiction of Pinkie Pie from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' having a violent, stoic alter ego named "[[FanNickname Pinkamena Diane Pie]]" comes from the fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}''. It was thought to be inspired by her flat-haired, schizoid self from a disturbing scene in "Party of One" where Pinkie has a full conversation about how rude her friends are with various inanimate objects. Not only was the fic was released ''before'' "Party of One" premiered, but Pinkie is her curly-maned and cheerful self despite torturing ponies to death, this supposed "Pinkamena" alter ego never appearing. A lot of the unease of the fic comes from the fact that Pinkie, as her normal happy-go-lucky hyperactive self, is either unaware or apathetic to the horrors she's committing; a violent alter ego would defeat the whole point.

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* The depiction of Pinkie Pie from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' having a violent, stoic alter ego named "[[FanNickname Pinkamena "Pinkamena Diane Pie]]" Pie" comes from the fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}''. It was thought to be inspired by her flat-haired, schizoid self from a disturbing scene in "Party of One" where Pinkie has a full conversation about how rude her friends are with various inanimate objects. Not only was the fic was released ''before'' "Party of One" premiered, but Pinkie is her curly-maned and cheerful self despite torturing ponies to death, this supposed "Pinkamena" alter ego never appearing. A lot of the unease of the fic comes from the fact that Pinkie, as her normal happy-go-lucky hyperactive self, is either unaware or apathetic to the horrors she's committing; a violent alter ego would defeat the whole point.
18th Sep '16 3:49:38 PM Redmess
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** Basically, the evolution of it is, first he had these gloves with retractable claws. It was then decided that they should be in his body because then anyone could just wear the claw gloves and be Wolverine. Then, muuuuuuuuuuch later Magneto de-adamantium'd Wolverine, but PowersThatBe didn't want that to mean de-clawing him, so as a RetCon that's actually kind of an AssPull (as mentioned before, the claws' mechanical nature has been a ''plot point'' before.) the bone claws were suddenly always there. These days, it's a matter of DependingOnTheWriter of how the claws will be treated; claws working during a period of depowerment (but '''hurting like hell''' to use, immensely more so than usual) has been seen this side of the retcon. Long story short, you've got canon support no matter how you think of the claws. (However, being in the gloves was never established even when it was what the writers had in mind.)

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** Basically, the evolution of it is, first he had these gloves with retractable claws. It was then decided that they should be in his body because then otherwise anyone could just wear the claw gloves and be Wolverine. Then, muuuuuuuuuuch later Magneto de-adamantium'd Wolverine, but PowersThatBe didn't want that to mean de-clawing him, so as a RetCon that's actually kind of an AssPull (as mentioned before, the claws' mechanical nature has been a ''plot point'' before.) the bone claws were suddenly always there. These days, it's a matter of DependingOnTheWriter of how the claws will be treated; claws working during a period of depowerment (but '''hurting like hell''' to use, immensely more so than usual) has been seen this side of the retcon. Long story short, you've got canon support no matter how you think of the claws. (However, being in the gloves was never established even when it was what the writers had in mind.)
18th Sep '16 3:48:43 PM Redmess
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** Basically, the evolution of it is, first he had these claws. It was then decided that they should be in his body because then anyone could just wear the claw gloves and be Wolverine. Then, muuuuuuuuuuch later Magneto de-adamantium'd Wolverine, but PowersThatBe didn't want that to mean de-clawing him, so as a RetCon that's actually kind of an AssPull (as mentioned before, the claws' mechanical nature has been a ''plot point'' before.) the bone claws were suddenly always there. These days, it's a matter of DependingOnTheWriter of how the claws will be treated; claws working during a period of depowerment (but '''hurting like hell''' to use, immensely more so than usual) has been seen this side of the retcon. Long story short, you've got canon support no matter how you think of the claws. (However, being in the gloves was never established even when it was what the writers had in mind.)

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** Basically, the evolution of it is, first he had these gloves with retractable claws. It was then decided that they should be in his body because then anyone could just wear the claw gloves and be Wolverine. Then, muuuuuuuuuuch later Magneto de-adamantium'd Wolverine, but PowersThatBe didn't want that to mean de-clawing him, so as a RetCon that's actually kind of an AssPull (as mentioned before, the claws' mechanical nature has been a ''plot point'' before.) the bone claws were suddenly always there. These days, it's a matter of DependingOnTheWriter of how the claws will be treated; claws working during a period of depowerment (but '''hurting like hell''' to use, immensely more so than usual) has been seen this side of the retcon. Long story short, you've got canon support no matter how you think of the claws. (However, being in the gloves was never established even when it was what the writers had in mind.)
15th Sep '16 5:52:45 PM spiritsunami
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* It's an often-held belief among fans that in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', Eirika and Ephriam [[{{Twincest}} get married]] in the Japanese version's WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue. While the game ''does'' have an awful lot of IncestSubtext, this is not true in the slightest. It's just a result of fans believing "any paired ending ''must'' be romantic, so the obviously censored it", despite there being several non-romantic paired endings, even in this very game. ([[ParentalSubstitute Dussel and Amelia comes to mind]])

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* It's an often-held belief among fans that in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', Eirika and Ephriam [[{{Twincest}} get married]] in the Japanese version's WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue. While the game ''does'' have an awful lot of IncestSubtext, this is not true in the slightest. It's just a result of fans believing "any paired ending ''must'' be romantic, so the obviously censored it", despite there being several non-romantic paired endings, even in this very game. ([[ParentalSubstitute Dussel Duessel and Amelia comes to mind]])mind.]])


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*** Surprisingly, those who choose to believe that Ike is gay have an explanation for that one. The Akaneia canon repeatedly refers to Marth as being descended from the hero Anri while also stating that Anri ''had no heir'', suggesting that "Anri's" bloodline is in fact descended from his brother Marcellus, thus proving that the term "descendant" [[YouKeepUsingThatWord is not exactly used properly in this series]] and thus allowing for the ''possibility'' of Priam actually being descended from Mist. [[BaseBreaker Naturally this isn't accepted by a lot of the other fans.]]
15th Sep '16 5:19:06 PM spiritsunami
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*** Though in this particular instance, "Common Knowledge" seems to be that it ''is'' a thinly veiled LSD reference and they made up the story about the drawing in an attempt to claim otherwise.



***Furthermore, the fact that it starts with "ha-"--"the"--means that it's actually more of a ''title'' than anything else. Lucifer is just the most well-known Satan.



*** Almost any Christian schoolchild will tell you the Fruit in question was an apple. The Bible, in any language, does not specify what it was. Jewish tradition claims it to be a fig, wheat, or grapes, and Islam sometimes holds that it was a pomegranate. The apple connection came from the [[JustForPun Latin words for apple (malum) and evil (mālum)]], though some say it's because apples are usually the first solid food children eat in the Western world..

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*** Almost any Christian schoolchild will tell you the Fruit in question was an apple. The Bible, in any language, does not specify what it was. Jewish tradition claims it to be a fig, wheat, or grapes, and Islam sometimes holds that it was a pomegranate. The apple connection came from the [[JustForPun Latin words for apple (malum) and evil (mālum)]], though some say it's because apples are usually the first solid food children eat in the Western world.. world.
15th Sep '16 12:39:21 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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** Because of all the jokes about Lando Calrissian being "the only Black man in the Galaxy", it's something of a common misconception that Billy Dee Williams is [[TokenMinority the only]] actor of color who ever appears in the Original Trilogy. While Lando is the only non-white '''major character''' in the first three movies, there ''are'' a few other non-white characters in incidental roles. The Rebel forces at [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi the Battle of Endor]] include Lieutenant Telsij (second-in-command of Grey Squadron) and Grizz Frix ("Red Five"), played by a Japanese-American actor and an African-American actor, respectively. There are also two Black extras in the [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Cloud City]] scenes; one plays one of Lando's guards who greets the heroes at the landing platform, and the other plays a panicked citizen fleeing as the Stormtroopers arrive. [[note]] The latter character became something of an EnsembleDarkhorse after eagle-eyed fans noticed that [[FreezeFrameBonus he's apparently carrying an ice cream maker while running away]].[[/note]] For what it's worth, Oola the Twi'lek dancer is also played by Black actress Femi Taylor, though it's nearly impossible to tell with her heavy green makeup.
12th Sep '16 6:28:11 AM Ookamikun
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** A bit of clarification with PokemonSpeak. People say that only the [[{{Anime/Pokemon}} anime]] does this and that the games only have them starting ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. Let us clarify both points. The games actually use PokemonSpeak since the first generation. Yes, even before ''Pokémon Yellow'' where Pikachu got speaking roles (yes, Pikachu saying its name was older than ''X and Y''). When people mention "Pokémon don't speak their names", they usually refer to the cries they make, forgetting the fact that the cries either are hampered by technology (you can actually notice Togepi's cry being similar to its anime talk) or follow the rule where intimidating/cool/adult Pokémon make more beastly groans (while subtly saying their names, see Charizard). People often forget that Pokémon [=NPCs=] exist, and that talking to them you will realize that they DO speak their names. However in the early games (prior to ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite''), they translate their speak literally, so when you talk to Jigglypuff, it will say "Pu-pu-ri!" or something similar, as its name in Japanese is Purin. It was in ''Black and White'' where they updated the speak so that talking to the Pokémon will say their English names. Overall, it seems to follow the same pattern as the Japanese anime -- stuff that isn't an animal or has a sound-effect-based name uses its name, while others make more animal-type noises.

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** A bit of clarification with PokemonSpeak. People say that only the [[{{Anime/Pokemon}} anime]] does this and that the games only have them starting ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. Let us clarify both points. The games actually use PokemonSpeak since the first generation. Yes, even before ''Pokémon Yellow'' where Pikachu got speaking roles (yes, Pikachu saying its name was older than ''X and Y''). When people mention "Pokémon don't speak their names", they usually refer to the cries they make, forgetting the fact that the cries either are hampered by technology (you can actually notice Togepi's cry being similar to its anime talk) or follow the rule where intimidating/cool/adult Pokémon make more beastly groans (while subtly saying their names, see Charizard). People often forget that Pokémon [=NPCs=] exist, and that [[https://i.imgur.com/nSk793K.png talking to them you will realize that they DO speak their names.names]]. However in the early games (prior to ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite''), they translate their speak literally, so when you talk to Jigglypuff, it will say "Pu-pu-ri!" or something similar, as its name in Japanese is Purin. It was in ''Black and White'' where they updated the speak so that talking to the Pokémon will say their English names. Overall, it seems to follow the same pattern as the Japanese anime -- stuff that isn't an animal or has a sound-effect-based name uses its name, while others make more animal-type noises.
11th Sep '16 1:07:51 AM LordGro
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* ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'' is the definitive ComingOfAgeStory... except it isn't really. Holden remains the same misanthropic, angsty adolescent at the end as he was at the beginning.

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* ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'' is the definitive ComingOfAgeStory... except it isn't really. Holden remains the same misanthropic, angsty adolescent at the end as he was at the beginning.
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