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16th Oct '17 5:21:32 PM Overfiend
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* Hawkeye (Clint Barton) was KING of this as related to Avengers team leader Captain America. This was elegantly lampshaded by Wonder Man in 2005's "Avengers Finale" the epilogue to the "Avengers Disassembled" saga. The remaining Avengers are having a get-together, reminiscing about old times and departed friends, including the recently killed Hawkeye. Wonder Man told the group "Clint didn't just disagree with Cap; he'd CRAZY disagree. Cap could just say something as simple as "I like turkey", and Clint would say "turkey sucks, and you suck and WHO MADE YOU BOSS, ANYWAY?!?"

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* Hawkeye (Clint Barton) was KING of this as related to Avengers team leader Captain America. This was elegantly lampshaded by Wonder Man in 2005's "Avengers Finale" Finale", the epilogue to the "Avengers Disassembled" saga. The remaining Avengers are having a get-together, reminiscing about old times and departed friends, including the recently killed Hawkeye. Wonder Man told the group group: "Clint didn't just disagree with Cap; he'd CRAZY disagree. Cap could just say something as simple as "I like turkey", and Clint would say "turkey sucks, and you suck and WHO MADE YOU BOSS, ANYWAY?!?"
16th Oct '17 5:20:17 PM Overfiend
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*Hawkeye (Clint Barton) was KING of this as related to Avengers team leader Captain America. This was elegantly lampshaded by Wonder Man in 2005's "Avengers Finale" the epilogue to the "Avengers Disassembled" saga. The remaining Avengers are having a get-together, reminiscing about old times and departed friends, including the recently killed Hawkeye. Wonder Man told the group "Clint didn't just disagree with Cap; he'd CRAZY disagree. Cap could just say something as simple as "I like turkey", and Clint would say "turkey sucks, and you suck and WHO MADE YOU BOSS, ANYWAY?!?"
13th Oct '17 10:46:38 AM IamTheCaligula
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-->'''Chief''': [[SelfDemonstratingArticle You call this a page ending?!]] First a predicable [[TheStinger stinger]], and now you got it [[Administrivia/AboutRhetoricalQuestions all rhetorical]]?! ''Get outta here before out before I RedLink your [[WordCruft Word Crufting]] ass into next week!''

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-->'''Chief''': [[SelfDemonstratingArticle You call this a page ending?!]] First a predicable [[TheStinger stinger]], and now you got it [[Administrivia/AboutRhetoricalQuestions all rhetorical]]?! ''Get outta here before out before I RedLink your [[WordCruft Word Crufting]] ass into next week!''
8th Oct '17 8:04:52 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'''s [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19468_5-logical-fallacies-that-make-you-wrong-more-than-you-think.html 5 Logical Fallacies That Make You Wrong More Than You Think]] touches on humanity's love for this with a section on the argumentative theory of reasoning (See Real Life below).



* A [[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/arts/people-argue-just-to-win-scholars-assert.html?_r=4 New York Times article]] explains what is called the "argumentative theory of reasoning," which suggests that arguments and reasoning at their core are actually social power plays that we developed primarily to gain power over others. This explains why ConfirmationBias and clinging to wrong beliefs even after they're definitively discredited are both so prevalent within humanity; by this theory, admitting to being on the wrong side of an argument means lowering your position/status in an unspoken social hierarchy. It is also likely (at least subconsciously) why so many [[TheOnlyRighteousIndexOfFanatics fanatics]] seem to want to be right more for the sake of being right than for actually improving quality of life.



21st Aug '17 12:59:21 PM LavonPapillon1
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* In the "Obama's Meeting with Republicans" sketch on ''Series/KeyAndPeele'', President Obama is having a meeting with various Republican officials to make bipartisan agreements for the country, only for the Republicans to disagree with him at every turn. Obama manages to use their contrarian impulses to his advantage by proposing things that Republicans normally favor (small government, gun-control laws, repealing the Affordable Care Act) only for them to object anyway. This is punctuated by the fact that the Republicans seem to notice this and try in vain to keep themselves from objecting by using the objects around them (tape, wads of paper, staples, etc) to silence themselves.

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* In the "Obama's Meeting with Republicans" sketch on ''Series/KeyAndPeele'', President Obama is having a meeting with various Republican officials to make bipartisan agreements for the country, only for the Republicans to disagree with him at every turn. Obama manages to use their contrarian impulses to his advantage by proposing things that Republicans normally favor (small government, no gun-control laws, repealing the Affordable Care Act) only for them to object anyway. This is punctuated by the fact that the Republicans seem to notice this and try in vain to keep themselves from objecting by using the objects around them (tape, wads of paper, staples, etc) to silence themselves.
21st Aug '17 12:56:13 PM LavonPapillon1
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* In the "Obama's Meeting with Republicans" sketch on ''Series/KeyAndPeele'', President Obama is having a meeting with various Republican officials to make bipartisan agreements for the country, only for the Republicans to disagree with him at every turn. Obama manages to use their contrarian impulses to his advantage by proposing things that Republicans normally favor (small government, gun-control laws, repealing the Affordable Care Act) only for them to object anyway. This is punctuated by the fact that the Republicans seem to notice this and try in vain to keep themselves from objecting by using the objects around them (tape, wads of paper, staples, etc) to silence themselves.
21st Aug '17 11:31:01 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Ten years later, during the ''HandOfThrawn'' duology, Pellaeon, through hard work and [[YouAreInCommandNow by outliving his superiors]], is the Empire's Supreme Commander, and Captain Ardiff is his CommanderContrarian.

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** Ten years later, during the ''HandOfThrawn'' ''Literature/HandOfThrawn'' duology, Pellaeon, through hard work and [[YouAreInCommandNow by outliving his superiors]], is the Empire's Supreme Commander, and Captain Ardiff is his CommanderContrarian.
5th Aug '17 6:59:41 PM AdamC
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* When you finally face Undyne in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', she's angry with you regardless of how you've played. Her anger is justified in a [[KillEmAll No Mercy]] route, and to a lesser extent a Neutral one, where she'll even call you out if you killed specific characters (''[[TranquilFury Especially]]'' if you killed Papyrus), commenting that she thought humans were compassionate, and claims that you killed them because it was easy for you, rather than self-defense. If you've played as a pacifist, her justification gets flimsier, where she says she thought humans were cool, but you're just a wimp. She also thinks it's just an act. It soon becomes clear that Undyne doesn't want to face the moral implications of killing the protagonist (who is blatantly a child), so she's making excuses for why they need to die anyway.

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* When you finally face Undyne in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', she's angry with you regardless of how you've played. Her anger is justified in a [[KillEmAll No Mercy]] route, and to a lesser extent a Neutral one, where she'll even call you out if you killed specific characters (''[[TranquilFury Especially]]'' if you killed Papyrus), commenting that she thought humans were compassionate, and claims that you killed them because it was easy for you, rather than self-defense.self-defense (Which actually ''is'' true if you've [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential killed Papyrus)]]. If you've played as a pacifist, her justification gets flimsier, where she says she thought humans were cool, but you're just a wimp. She also thinks it's just an act. It soon becomes clear that Undyne doesn't want to face the moral implications of killing the protagonist (who is blatantly a child), so she's making excuses for why they need to die anyway.
12th Jul '17 7:37:12 PM DrVonOppendown
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** Most opposition parties in democracies often go through phases of this. See the current state of the Liberals in Australia, or the Republicans in the US for that matter.

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** Most opposition parties in democracies often go through phases of this. See the current state of the Liberals in Australia, or the Republicans Democrats in the US for that matter.
16th Jun '17 6:42:46 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Davos considers it his duty to tell Stannis when he is wrong, even while following his orders to the letter.

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Davos considers it his duty to tell Stannis when he is wrong, even while following his orders to the letter.letter.
** Rickard to Robb and Catelyn, though his points are usually good.
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