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12th Jul '17 7:37:12 PM DrVonOppendown
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** Most opposition parties in democracies often go through phases of this. See the current state of the Liberals in Australia, or the Republicans in the US for that matter.

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** Most opposition parties in democracies often go through phases of this. See the current state of the Liberals in Australia, or the Republicans Democrats in the US for that matter.
16th Jun '17 6:42:46 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Davos considers it his duty to tell Stannis when he is wrong, even while following his orders to the letter.

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Davos considers it his duty to tell Stannis when he is wrong, even while following his orders to the letter.letter.
** Rickard to Robb and Catelyn, though his points are usually good.
29th May '17 5:36:04 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* This is taken UpToEleven by the Opposition (aka the Opposers), a thankfully small sect in the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' setting. Their goal is to oppose ''every'' political, moral, ethical, and philosophical idea except their own, and they believe this will actually help people. Why? Well, they think that an idea can only succeed and its supporters can only become strong if they have to fight to support it. In other words, "opposition makes you strong, so help folks by opposing them". As can be expected, this group doesn't have many friends or allies (nor do they want any - they want people to oppose ''them'' too). Player Characters can actually join this group if they want to; the only requirement (other than holding to its controversial philosophy of opposing everything) is actually one that makes sense: you must be True Neutral in alignment. (Being Good, Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic obviously defeats the purpose.)
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28th May '17 3:19:48 AM Grudgeal
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* Academic Peer Review can also involve taking this position by necessity. Many reviewers take the stance that no matter how good a paper may look, there will be room for improvement ''somewhere''. Consequently, they can and will criticize any part of the paper in the hope that the authors will improve things even further or clarify parts that may have needed it.
1st May '17 1:22:47 AM DoctorNemesis
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* Played for laughs with Britta Perry on ''Series/{{Community}}'', who blended the political radicalism of the SoapboxSadie with the insufferable pretentiousness of the {{Hipster}}, leading her to frequently act contrary more or less just for the sake of being different from what everyone else was doing. As lampshaded at one point during a discussion of marriage:

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* Played for laughs with Britta Perry on ''Series/{{Community}}'', who blended the political radicalism of the SoapboxSadie with the insufferable pretentiousness of the {{Hipster}}, leading her to frequently act contrary more or less just for the sake of being cool and different from what everyone else was doing. As lampshaded at one point during a discussion of marriage:
29th Apr '17 11:17:01 AM nombretomado
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** Another somewhat straight example, also involving Thrawn, can be seen in TimothyZahn's short story ''Command Decision''. Admiral Thrawn has been exiled to the Unknown Regions along with the crew of a Star Destroyer, and its captain is very displeased with this, and how this ''alien'', when encountering a weird new species, does not follow Imperial protocols ''at all.'' Thrawn thanks the captain for his recommendations and goes on with plans that seem to indicate ridiculous weakness. The captain and a general even speculate that Thrawn made some kind of deal and almost mutiny, though when the crunch comes he doesn't. Ultimately Thrawn asks the captain to trust him - and the captain does - and this trust is rewarded when the plan works out really, really well.

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** Another somewhat straight example, also involving Thrawn, can be seen in TimothyZahn's Creator/TimothyZahn's short story ''Command Decision''. Admiral Thrawn has been exiled to the Unknown Regions along with the crew of a Star Destroyer, and its captain is very displeased with this, and how this ''alien'', when encountering a weird new species, does not follow Imperial protocols ''at all.'' Thrawn thanks the captain for his recommendations and goes on with plans that seem to indicate ridiculous weakness. The captain and a general even speculate that Thrawn made some kind of deal and almost mutiny, though when the crunch comes he doesn't. Ultimately Thrawn asks the captain to trust him - and the captain does - and this trust is rewarded when the plan works out really, really well.
21st Apr '17 8:40:07 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Davos considers it his duty to tell Stannis when he is wrong, even while following his orders to the letter.
16th Apr '17 6:56:31 PM nombretomado
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* In ''StarTrekNewFrontier'' Commander Shelby realizes she's doing this when she starts acting the way Calhoun would when the more by-the-book Riker is given temporary command of the ''Excalibur'' while Calhoun is on a secret mission for Admiral Nechyev. She realizes this even more in ''Restoration'' when, after Calhoun is presumed dead, she's given her own command, staffs it with the most exemplary crew (as opposed to Calhoun's off-kilter bunch), and finds herself being contrary to her first officer and missing the old crew. Later, when Calhoun returns and marries her, she staffs her new ship with a few of ''Excalibur'''s night-shift officers, including having as her first officer the other woman who slept with Calhoun on a long-time basis.

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* In ''StarTrekNewFrontier'' ''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier'' Commander Shelby realizes she's doing this when she starts acting the way Calhoun would when the more by-the-book Riker is given temporary command of the ''Excalibur'' while Calhoun is on a secret mission for Admiral Nechyev. She realizes this even more in ''Restoration'' when, after Calhoun is presumed dead, she's given her own command, staffs it with the most exemplary crew (as opposed to Calhoun's off-kilter bunch), and finds herself being contrary to her first officer and missing the old crew. Later, when Calhoun returns and marries her, she staffs her new ship with a few of ''Excalibur'''s night-shift officers, including having as her first officer the other woman who slept with Calhoun on a long-time basis.
22nd Mar '17 5:57:42 PM ironballs16
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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' Lord [[spoiler:Snow]] finds that his council is full of these. He reflects that his father had told him it's better to have men who aren't [[YesMan afraid to argue with you]], but their constant, predictable objections and lack of alternative suggestions makes them no more useful than if they were.

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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' Lord [[spoiler:Snow]] finds that his council is full of these. He reflects that his father had told him it's better to have men who aren't [[YesMan afraid to argue with you]], but their constant, predictable objections and lack of alternative suggestions [[WeAREStrugglingTogether makes them no more useful than if they were.were]].
6th Mar '17 7:07:09 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''[[MarxBrothers Groucho Marx]],''' ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cry-4pyy8 Horsefeathers]]''

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-->-- '''[[MarxBrothers '''[[Creator/MarxBrothers Groucho Marx]],''' ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cry-4pyy8 Horsefeathers]]''
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