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18th Aug '17 8:59:09 AM Julia1984
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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as morally good, and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as the 'oppressive' idea that you should act to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe advance your own material greed]].

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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest (without ever resorting to "force, fraud, or coercion") as morally good, and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as the 'oppressive' "oppressive" idea that you should act to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe advance your own material greed]]. greed]] without resorting to "force, fraud, or coercion": [[Literature/AtlasShrugged "I swear ... that I will never live for the sake of another man, *nor ask another man to live for mine*"]] establishes that ''everyone'' has the same and no greater responsibility than to seek their own self-interest without violating the rights of others.
26th Jul '17 8:43:25 PM Glaurung
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* The [[UsefulNotes/EconomicTheories political-economic doctrine]] of [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies "Neoliberalism"]] also defies this trope, saying that when everyone acts selfishly and government does not force the powerful to help the weak (through taxing them to provide public education, road works, healthcare etc) and allows the powerful to prey upon the weak (through charging them rents for housing, utilities, transport, etc), the 'Invisible Hand' of 'The Free Market' perfectly ensures that the objectively 'valuable' and hardworking people in society become powerful/rich and the 'worthless' and lazy become weak/poor. In other words, Neoliberalism claims that when 'government gets out of the market' [[note]] [[AsYouKnow metaphorically speaking, of course,]] since a market can only exist if it is created by a government [[/note]] then the world operates according to LaserGuidedKarma. ComesGreatResponsibility is evil in the eyes of Neoliberalism because there is no such thing as "the undeserving poor": the 'Invisible Hand' perfectly allocates wealth, so poor people are poor because they are morally bankrupt and/or objectively worthless to the economy. Preventing the so-called "needy" from dying only hurts the economy and society as a whole.

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* The [[UsefulNotes/EconomicTheories political-economic doctrine]] of [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies "Neoliberalism"]] Social Darwinism also defies this trope, saying that when everyone acts selfishly and government does not force the powerful to help the weak (through taxing them to provide public education, road works, healthcare etc) and allows the powerful to prey upon the weak (through charging them rents for housing, utilities, transport, etc), the 'Invisible Hand' of 'The Free Market' perfectly ensures that the objectively 'valuable' and hardworking people in society become powerful/rich and the 'worthless' and lazy become weak/poor. In other words, Neoliberalism Social Darwinism claims that when 'government gets out of the market' [[note]] [[AsYouKnow metaphorically speaking, of course,]] since a market can only exist if it is created by a government [[/note]] then the world operates according to LaserGuidedKarma. ComesGreatResponsibility is evil in the eyes of Neoliberalism Social Darwinism because there is no such thing as "the undeserving poor": the 'Invisible Hand' perfectly allocates wealth, so poor people are poor because they are morally bankrupt and/or objectively worthless to the economy. Preventing the so-called "needy" from dying only hurts the economy and society as a whole.
29th May '17 3:10:14 AM WikiGuardianAngel
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This was [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in an episode of ''Series/{{Bewitched}}'' where Samantha used her powers to do something but was seen by a mortal who wasn't supposed to see her. So she's considering "freezing" them until she can figure out what to do about it. But to do that, she would have to freeze others who would miss them if they weren't around for a few weeks while the person was gone, so they'd have to be frozen. She sort of realizes the ridiculousness of this when she considers maybe she should just freeze the entire human race, i.e. all mortals. Once you get started with potentially bad actions, each subsequent one becomes easier until you've crossed every line.

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This was [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in an episode of ''Series/{{Bewitched}}'' where Samantha used her powers to do something but was seen by a mortal who wasn't supposed to see her. So she's considering "freezing" them until she can figure out what to do about it. But to do that, she would have to freeze others who would miss them if they weren't around for a few weeks while the person was gone, so they'd have to be frozen. She sort of realizes the ridiculousness of this when she considers maybe she should just freeze the entire human race, i.e. all mortals. Once you get started with potentially bad actions, each subsequent one becomes easier until you've [[MoralEventHorizon crossed every line.
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* The doctrine of ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige noblesse oblige]]'' teaches that the wealthy and powerful are expected to hold themselves to a higher standard and contribute more to society than ordinary citizens.
* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as morally good, and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as the 'oppressive' idea that you should act to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.

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* The doctrine of ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige noblesse oblige]]'' teaches that the wealthy and powerful are expected to hold themselves to a higher standard and contribute more to society than ordinary citizens.
those in less powerful or less fortunate positions.
* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as morally good, and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as the 'oppressive' idea that you should act to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but [[ItsAllAboutMe advance your own material greed.greed]].
29th May '17 2:32:54 AM WikiGuardianAngel
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In the hands of a poor writer, it is easy for this to turn into a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop or FantasticAesop. For instance, a character CursedWithAwesome powers and unable to enjoy them in any way, trapped in a life they didn't choose can easily become YouCantFightFate and HardWorkHardlyWorks, and is usually a one way ticket to {{Wangst}}-ville. It can also degenerate into the idea that [[PersonalGainHurts benefiting from one's own talents or skills is wrong]], and that [[BystanderSyndrome trying to help others will only end in disaster]], but that you are still [[SamaritanSyndrome obligated to do so]] even knowing that FailureIsTheOnlyOption.

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In the hands of a poor writer, it is easy for this to turn into a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop or FantasticAesop. For instance, a character CursedWithAwesome powers and unable to enjoy them in any way, trapped in a life they didn't choose can easily become YouCantFightFate and HardWorkHardlyWorks, and is usually a one way ticket to {{Wangst}}-ville. It can also degenerate into the idea that [[PersonalGainHurts benefiting from one's own talents or skills is wrong]], and that [[BystanderSyndrome trying to help others will only end in disaster]], but that you are still [[SamaritanSyndrome obligated to do so]] even knowing that FailureIsTheOnlyOption.
FailureIsTheOnlyOption. The weight of the responsibility of the said great powers is often why heroes have ChronicHeroSyndrome.



Outside the superhero genre, this is not often a trope relating to the main characters, but many a ReasonableAuthorityFigure is deeply aware of the responsibilities that come with his post. Indeed, one way to detect whether such a figure is good is how he regards the misery or deaths of the faceless masses; even not knowing any of them, the ReasonableAuthorityFigure will not regard them as AMillionIsAStatistic and if he must sacrifice them, will regard it as DirtyBusiness.

Contrasted by MugglePower and WithGreatPowerComesGreatPerks. If the said responsibility is insanity, see WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.

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Outside the superhero genre, this is not often a trope relating to the main characters, but many a ReasonableAuthorityFigure is deeply aware of the responsibilities that come with his post. Indeed, one way to detect whether such a figure is good is how he regards the misery or deaths of the faceless masses; even not knowing any of them, the ReasonableAuthorityFigure will not regard them as AMillionIsAStatistic and if he [[TheNeedsOfTheMany must sacrifice them, them]], will regard it as DirtyBusiness.

Contrasted by MugglePower and WithGreatPowerComesGreatPerks. If the said responsibility is insanity, powers result in the character losing any sense of responsibility, see WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.
29th May '17 2:22:30 AM WikiGuardianAngel
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* Parenting is a mundane but common expression of this. You made (or adopted) a kid - that's great! You have a HUGE degree of power over this younger, smaller person. However, with all that power comes a responsibility to make sure their physical and psychological needs are met and that they develop into an independent person over the course of the next twenty years.

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* Parenting is a mundane but common expression of this. You made (or adopted) a kid - that's great! You have a HUGE degree of power over this younger, smaller person. However, with all that power comes a responsibility to make sure their physical and psychological needs are met and that they develop into an independent independent, capable, socially functional and morally upstanding person capable of taking care of themselves and being considerate of others over the course of the next twenty years. years: In effect, you have ''the responsibility to develop you child into the best person you can make him be''.
18th May '17 12:03:37 PM Eddy1215
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* The Canadian short ''WesternAnimation/HotStuff'' is about the responsibility of using fire and what could happen if one's careless with it.
13th May '17 6:04:42 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Franchise/{{Starcraft}}'', [[DefiedTrope defying this trope]] is the entire motivation of the ultimate BigBad of the series. [[spoiler:Amon enjoyed the power that came with becoming a Xel'Naga, but balked when he realized that the Xel'Naga aren't gods, but shepherds.]]

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* In ''Franchise/{{Starcraft}}'', ''VideoGame/StarCraft'', [[DefiedTrope defying this trope]] is the entire motivation of the ultimate BigBad of the series. [[spoiler:Amon enjoyed the power that came with becoming a Xel'Naga, but balked when he realized that the Xel'Naga aren't gods, but shepherds.]]
11th May '17 5:57:13 AM Allronix
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* Parenting is a mundane but common expression of this. You made (or adopted) a kid - that's great! You have a HUGE degree of power over this younger, smaller person. However, with all that power comes a responsibility to make sure their physical and psychological needs are met and that they develop into an independent person over the course of the next twenty years.
27th Apr '17 6:37:00 PM Malady
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* Lots of examples in the WhateleyUniverse, including the headmistress of [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]], but Stormwolf (Adam Ironknife) is probably the best example. He's so devoted to the concepts of justice and law that he's letting bad stuff happen because he doesn't have proof of it. Also, every single person in the school club Future Superheroes of America is this way by definition.

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* ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'': Lots of examples in the WhateleyUniverse, examples, including the headmistress of [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]], but Stormwolf (Adam Ironknife) is probably the best example. He's so devoted to the concepts of justice and law that he's letting bad stuff happen because he doesn't have proof of it. Also, every single person in the school club Future Superheroes of America is this way by definition.
19th Apr '17 8:52:00 AM DrTinkletrousers
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* The protagonist of JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable, Josuke Higashikata, despite his ChronicHeroSyndrome is originally content to allow his older nephew Jotaro handle the Stand-using SerialKiller that is menacing his town. After his grandfather is murdered and he realizes his HealingHands cannot solve all his problems, he resolves to rid Morioh of evil Stand users.
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