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19th Mar '17 3:42:44 AM jormis29
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** Then it's subverted in the ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' story "Renew Your Vows" [[spoiler:as Peter gives up being Spider-Man to protect MJ and their daughter Annie, making him the last superhero alive in a world ruled by the mysterious Regent. Even more, he goes so far as to ignore cries for help just to deal with his kid.]]

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** Then it's subverted in the ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' story "Renew Your Vows" ''ComicBook/RenewYourVows'' [[spoiler:as Peter gives up being Spider-Man to protect MJ and their daughter Annie, making him the last superhero alive in a world ruled by the mysterious Regent. Even more, he goes so far as to ignore cries for help just to deal with his kid.]]
5th Mar '17 7:47:31 PM nombretomado
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** That phrase, Spider-Man's trademark, is parodied in ''MarvelUltimateAlliance'' in a conversation with Spider-Man:

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** That phrase, Spider-Man's trademark, is parodied in ''MarvelUltimateAlliance'' ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance'' in a conversation with Spider-Man:
21st Feb '17 12:30:31 PM daviesprites
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*Isaac brings [[{{Webcomic/Paranatural}} Max]] with him to a secret location, and gets a surprisingly effective speech considering it's [[http://paranatural.net/index.php?id=139/ coming from someone with a doorknob for a face]].
18th Feb '17 12:46:29 PM Schol-R-LEA
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** While Phase has few compunctions about using his powers to benefit himself through MundaneUtility, he is also ''very'' self-conscious about both the risks of misusing them and obligation to use them constructively, to the level of ChronicHeroSyndrome at times. While he explicitly denies wanting to be a superhero, he's been called out at least once for espousing this position in [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness a lot more words]].
6th Feb '17 8:31:19 AM mothlight
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* ''Roleplay/{{Glowfic}}'' has some form of this?

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* ''Roleplay/{{Glowfic}}'' has some form of this?this/plays with this trope somehow.
6th Feb '17 7:45:04 AM mothlight
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* ''Roleplay/{{Glowfic}}'' has some form of this?
** Bells use their power to give themselves all kinds of neat perks, such as TheNeedless and LivingLieDetector and ResurrectiveImmortality and such but they also always without exception use their FunctionalMagic or other AppliedPhlebotinum to improve worlds/people's lives, for example terraforming mars and setting up portals to it and filling it with houses and free magical healing items and free food replicators, and they fix malaria and persuade everyone around them with any power to do the same.
26th Jan '17 8:29:06 PM MAI742
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* The [[UsefulNotes/EconomicTheories political-economic doctrine]] of [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies "Neoliberalism"]] also defies this trope, saying that when everyone acts selfishly and government does not force the powerful to help the weak (through taxing them to provide public education, road works, healthcare etc) and allows the powerful to prey upon the weak (through charging them rents for housing, utilities, transport, etc), the 'Invisible Hand' of 'The Free Market' perfectly ensures that the objectively 'valuable' and hardworking people in society become powerful/rich and the 'worthless' and lazy become weak/poor. ComesGreatResponsibility is evil in the eyes of Neoliberalism because there is no such thing as "the undeserving poor": the 'Invisible Hand' perfectly allocates wealth, so poor people are poor because they are morally bankrupt and/or objectively worthless to the economy. Preventing the so-called "needy" from dying only hurts the economy and society as a whole.

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* The [[UsefulNotes/EconomicTheories political-economic doctrine]] of [[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies "Neoliberalism"]] also defies this trope, saying that when everyone acts selfishly and government does not force the powerful to help the weak (through taxing them to provide public education, road works, healthcare etc) and allows the powerful to prey upon the weak (through charging them rents for housing, utilities, transport, etc), the 'Invisible Hand' of 'The Free Market' perfectly ensures that the objectively 'valuable' and hardworking people in society become powerful/rich and the 'worthless' and lazy become weak/poor. In other words, Neoliberalism claims that when 'government gets out of the market' [[note]] [[AsYouKnow metaphorically speaking, of course,]] since a market can only exist if it is created by a government [[/note]] then the world operates according to LaserGuidedKarma. ComesGreatResponsibility is evil in the eyes of Neoliberalism because there is no such thing as "the undeserving poor": the 'Invisible Hand' perfectly allocates wealth, so poor people are poor because they are morally bankrupt and/or objectively worthless to the economy. Preventing the so-called "needy" from dying only hurts the economy and society as a whole.whole.
* US Christianity has the so-called "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology Prosperity Theology]] movement which maintains that health and wealth are perfectly allocated to people in accordance with God's will. Consequently, Prosperity Theology defies ComesGreatResponsibility because helping the sick or poor literally goes against God's will. Other schools of US Christian theology, and most foreign ones, regard this message as inimical to the core values of Christianity (which they believe plays ComesGreatResponsibility straight) [[FlameBait and we're going to leave it at that that.]]
14th Jan '17 11:46:24 AM MAI742
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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as "morally good", and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as acting to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.

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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as "morally good", morally good, and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as acting the 'oppressive' idea that you should act to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.
14th Jan '17 11:45:45 AM MAI742
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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by UsefulNotes/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as "morally good", and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as acting to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.

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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by UsefulNotes/AynRand Creator/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as "morally good", and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as acting to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.
14th Jan '17 11:45:16 AM MAI742
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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as "morally good", and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as acting to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.

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* The philosophy of UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} devised by UsefulNotes/AynRand specifically defies this trope. Objectivism defines the pursuit of one's own material self-interest as "morally good", and defines things which prevent people from doing so (such as acting to save the lives of others when you do not want to do that) as evil. To an Objectivist, one's degree of power does not alter this fundamental moral principle: with power, comes no responsibility to do anything but advance your own material greed.
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