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24th Mar '17 10:06:51 AM KamenRiderOokalf
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** {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo?'' that took place in Greece. At the end of the episode, Velma explains all the evidence that suggested that the archaeologist was behind the centaur attacks, and unmasks the creature to reveal... a woman that she doesn't know. (The audience does; she was the archaeologist's partner who appeared in the teaser before Mystery Inc. ever showed up.) Velma immediately starts complaining that this shouldn't count against her perfect record.

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** {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo?'' ''WesternAnimation/WhatsNewScoobyDoo'' that took place in Greece. At the end of the episode, Velma explains all the evidence that suggested that the archaeologist was behind the centaur attacks, and unmasks the creature to reveal... a woman that she doesn't know. (The audience does; she was the archaeologist's partner who appeared in the teaser before Mystery Inc. ever showed up.) Velma immediately starts complaining that this shouldn't count against her perfect record.
26th Jan '17 12:18:44 PM Gosicrystal
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* While the actual puzzles of Franchise/ProfessorLayton are usually solvable and provide you with enough clues or hints to solve it on your own, the plot of each game is typically resolved near the end of the game with a bunch of clues that Layton found while you've been exploring and has been keeping coy about. They also have a tendency to incorporate some rather outlandish technology or other explanation into the mix.
* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]". [[spoiler: By the end, clues are abundant - but lacking any kind of final[[TheReveal reveal]], there's no ultimately correct way to interpret them.]]

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* While the actual puzzles of Franchise/ProfessorLayton ''Franchise/ProfessorLayton'' are usually solvable and provide you with enough clues or hints to solve it on your own, the plot of each game is typically resolved near the end of the game with a bunch of clues that Layton found while you've been exploring and has been keeping coy about. They also have a tendency to incorporate some rather outlandish technology or other explanation into the mix.
* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]". [[spoiler: By the end, clues are abundant - but lacking any kind of final[[TheReveal reveal]], there's no ultimately correct way to interpret them.]]
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* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]". [[spoiler: By the end, clues are abundant - but lacking any kind of final[[TheReveal reveal]], there's no ultimately correct way to interpret them.]]
9th Dec '16 7:59:27 PM benda
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* ''Film/TheTurkishGambit'', an adaptation of the eponymous Literature/ErastFandorin book, changed the identity of the Turkish spy in the Russian camp. In the book, he was one of those the clues pointed to, while in the movie, all the clues were red herrings, and the real spy was somebody else entirely, whom Fandorin accused based on evidence never shown onscreen before (though its existence has been hinted at early on).

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* ''Film/TheTurkishGambit'', an adaptation of the eponymous Literature/ErastFandorin book, changed the identity of the Turkish spy in the Russian camp. In the book, he was one of those the clues pointed to, while in the movie, all the clues were red herrings, and the real spy was somebody else entirely, whom Fandorin accused based on evidence never shown onscreen before (though its existence has had been hinted at early on).
9th Dec '16 7:58:59 PM benda
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* ''Film/TheTurkishGambit'', an adaptation of the eponymous Literature/ErastFandorin book, changed the identity of the Turkish spy in the Russian camp. In the book, he was one of those the clues pointed to, while in the movie, all the clues were red herrings, and the real spy was somebody else entirely, whom Fandorin accused based on evidence never shown onscreen before.

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* ''Film/TheTurkishGambit'', an adaptation of the eponymous Literature/ErastFandorin book, changed the identity of the Turkish spy in the Russian camp. In the book, he was one of those the clues pointed to, while in the movie, all the clues were red herrings, and the real spy was somebody else entirely, whom Fandorin accused based on evidence never shown onscreen before.before (though its existence has been hinted at early on).
4th Nov '16 7:36:23 PM Venatius
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* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]".

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* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]". [[spoiler: By the end, clues are abundant - but lacking any kind of final[[TheReveal reveal]], there's no ultimately correct way to interpret them.]]
10th Jul '16 12:39:00 AM MarcInGA
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* In the movie ''Air Force One'' after they regain control of the plane they are forced to make an insane mid-air escape. When a Secret Service agent refuses to go the end of the line to die so the others can live, someone yells at him "So ''you're'' the traitor!". He is but that refusal proves nothing. Furthermore, up to that point there's been no mention of a traitor among the hostages.


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* In an early episode of ''Mission: Impossible'' the team is close to fooling an enemy agent into thinking that he's on trial in his own country. A trial that will inevitably end in execution. To add to his sense of doom Steven Hill, as the brilliant team leader and planner, is presented to him as his meek and terrifyingly incompetent court-appointed lawyer. When an accident reveals the truth to him, he laughs at them and then says "And who would be the mastermind behind this scheme?" and successfully picks Hill.
3rd Jul '16 5:50:58 AM Adept
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* Both ''Manga/{{Doubt}}'' and ''Manga/{{Judge}}'' by Yoshiyuki Tonogai are big examples of this trope. With ''Doubt'', the explanation relies on [[spoiler: one character having a previously unhinted at psychic power that enabled her to control another the LoveInterest, a character who, for most of the story, the reader believes to be dead.]] ''Judge'' is even worse in this regard, as TheReveal is that [[spoiler: Hiro, the main character is the culprit. Only one very subtle moment hints that this is the case, while most of the story contradicts this, since the story is told from his perspective and thoughts and actions contradict his true nature, even referencing events that logically never happened.]]

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* Both ''Manga/{{Doubt}}'' and ''Manga/{{Judge}}'' by Yoshiyuki Tonogai are big examples of this trope. With ''Doubt'', the explanation relies on [[spoiler: one character having a previously unhinted at psychic power that enabled her to control another control the LoveInterest, a character and who, for most of the story, the reader believes to be dead.]] ''Judge'' is even worse in this regard, as TheReveal is that [[spoiler: Hiro, the main character is the culprit. Only one very subtle moment hints that this is the case, while most of the story contradicts this, since the story is told from his perspective perspective, and his thoughts and actions throughout the story contradict his true nature, even referencing events that logically never happened.nature.]]
13th Jun '16 1:48:39 AM PaulA
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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe's C. Auguste Dupin stories are all Clueless Mysteries. In ''The Murders in The Rue Morgue'', for example, the only clue Dupin and the readers ''both'' have is the testimony about "the shrill voice". Everything else that Dupin discovers the reader is completely unaware of.

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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe's C. Auguste Dupin Literature/CAugusteDupin stories are all Clueless Mysteries. In ''The Murders in The Rue Morgue'', for example, the only clue Dupin and the readers ''both'' have is the testimony about "the shrill voice". Everything else that Dupin discovers the reader is completely unaware of.
5th May '16 2:49:57 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]".

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* ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' uses this trope as a plot point. Even the characters can't agree on whether it's a FairPlayWhodunnit or a Clueless Mystery. Should be mentioned the trailer did say "No Knox. No Dine. No [[FairPlayWhodunnit Fair]]".
24th Apr '16 10:24:26 AM DoctorCooper
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** And in some of her work, it falls under ValuesDissonance when someone has a working class name but an upper class job, they did it.
* Margaret Maron's [[spoiler: Sand Sharks]] has this issue, though most of her books do not. In that book, however, the waiter did it. No, really.

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** And in some of her work, it falls under ValuesDissonance when someone has a working class name but an upper class job, they did it.
* Margaret Maron's [[spoiler: Sand Sharks]] has this issue, though most of her books do not. In that book, however, the [[spoiler:the waiter did it. No, really.really]].
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