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1st May '17 7:07:55 AM Prometheus117
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* ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'': The black costume that Spider-Man wore for a while is a sentient and aggressive, if not outright evil, [[BondCreature symbiote creature]]. It used to take his body walking and swinging around while he was unconscious, and its aggression in turn made Peter aggressive and darker. For that matter, this is true of most the spider-suit type symbiotes from the Marvel Universe. Venom is kind of an AntiHero (due to the host's morals), but the majority of symbiotes seem to generally bend toward what readers would consider evil.

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* ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'': The black costume that Spider-Man wore for a while is a sentient and aggressive, if not outright evil, [[BondCreature symbiote creature]]. It used to take his body walking and swinging around while he was unconscious, and its aggression in turn made Peter aggressive and darker. For that matter, this is true of most the spider-suit type symbiotes from the Marvel Universe. Venom is kind of an AntiHero (due to the host's morals), but the majority of symbiotes seem to generally bend toward what readers would consider evil. However, it's been revealed that the symbiotes are ''usually'' pretty nice originally, but they inherit the personality traits of their previous wielders. In other words, "Maniacs Make the Clothes, and then the Clothes Make More Maniacs" (Venom itself originally bonded with a genocidal alien and then latter on ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, the combination of which drove it insane by the time Spidey got it).
29th Apr '17 12:19:50 AM Dravencour
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* In ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'', the cursed sword that Arthas finds in Northrend, Frostmourne, is what destroys the last straw of his sanity, leading him to become a Death Knight.

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* In ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'', the cursed sword that Arthas finds in Northrend, Frostmourne, is what destroys the last straw of his sanity, leading him to become a Death Knight.Knight and eventually the Lich King.
29th Apr '17 12:16:17 AM Dravencour
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* ''Anime/KillLaKill'''s [[PureIsNotGood Junketsu]] zigzags this. It usually designates the antagonist at any time, up until [[spoiler:Iori re-purposes it by infusing it with Senketsu's life fibers.]]

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* ''Anime/KillLaKill'''s [[PureIsNotGood Junketsu]] zigzags this. It usually designates takes over the antagonist at any time, up mind of anyone who wears it unless the wearer is sufficiently strong willed. Satsuki wears it for much of the series until [[spoiler:it's captured and worn by Ragyo, whose mind and Junketsu's are fully aligned, and then used to turn Ryuko evil by forcing it on her]]. When it's finally returned to Satsuki, [[spoiler:Iori re-purposes it repurposes the Kamui by infusing it with Senketsu's life fibers.]]fibers, which were altered by their father to make it compatible with humans]].
15th Apr '17 5:51:20 PM nombretomado
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* The title artifact in ''Film/TheMask'' and ''SonOfTheMask'' is a partial subversion. It is an item of Loki, god of mischief. So when it takes over the gentle dreamer Stanley Ipkiss, it boosts his confidence and turns him into a mostly-harmless cartoon maniac, who indulges in one act of implied [[DisproportionateRetribution horrifying violence]]. Dorian, however, is bitter and violent, and the Mask only [[CharacterExaggeration magnifies those bad traits to worse]].

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* The title artifact in ''Film/TheMask'' and ''SonOfTheMask'' ''Film/SonOfTheMask'' is a partial subversion. It is an item of Loki, god of mischief. So when it takes over the gentle dreamer Stanley Ipkiss, it boosts his confidence and turns him into a mostly-harmless cartoon maniac, who indulges in one act of implied [[DisproportionateRetribution horrifying violence]]. Dorian, however, is bitter and violent, and the Mask only [[CharacterExaggeration magnifies those bad traits to worse]].



* Most of the rings in ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'', The One Ring being the most focused on, but most pronounced in the Nine; they turned their owners, once proud kings, into evil ghostly death knights.

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* Most of the rings in ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'', ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', The One Ring being the most focused on, but most pronounced in the Nine; they turned their owners, once proud kings, into evil ghostly death knights.
9th Feb '17 10:34:23 AM cybertoy0
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** In "Team Homer", the elementary school institutes a uniform policy, and the drab clothes causes the kids to regress in personality so much that that they blink in uniform. Then it turns out that the uniforms aren't colorfast, and during a rainstorm during recess, the clothes become tie-dye, setting off a riot.
19th Jan '17 4:27:04 AM Simplicius
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* In ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'', Frostmourne, a magic sword, has an effect on Arthas not unlike the effect that The One Ring has on Frodo, Gollum, etc. In fact, Arthas's whole story can be seen as a reverse of King Arthur's, just as ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' is more generally a reverse of The Golden Fleece or The Holy Grail. Right down to the fact that rather than having to PULL the sword from the stone like Arthur does, Arthas basically asks the sword to come out of the ice.
** Though Arthas had leapt off the slippery slope long before he actually takes up the sword. He goes from leaping to... uh... skiing(?) down the slippery slope once he's got it. Then he ran out of slope and started digging himself in even deeper.

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* In ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'', the cursed sword that Arthas finds in Northrend, Frostmourne, a magic sword, has an effect on Arthas not unlike is what destroys the effect that The One Ring has on Frodo, Gollum, etc. In fact, Arthas's whole story can be seen as a reverse last straw of King Arthur's, just as ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' is more generally a reverse of The Golden Fleece or The Holy Grail. Right down his sanity, leading him to the fact that rather than having to PULL the sword from the stone like Arthur does, Arthas basically asks the sword to come out of the ice.
** Though Arthas had leapt off the slippery slope long before he actually takes up the sword. He goes from leaping to... uh... skiing(?) down the slippery slope once he's got it. Then he ran out of slope and started digging himself in even deeper.
become a Death Knight.
18th Jan '17 4:08:38 PM Dvandemon
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** The 80's version is notable as it originated this quality for the suit and it became RetCanon.
15th Jan '17 3:50:42 PM Endian
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* ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'':
** The black costume that Spider-Man wore for a while is a sentient and aggressive, if not outright evil, [[BondCreature symbiote creature]]. It used to take his body walking and swinging around while he was unconscious, and its aggression in turn made Peter aggressive and darker. For that matter, this is true of most the spider-suit type symbiotes from the Marvel Universe. Venom is kind of an AntiHero (as a result of the host's morals), but the majority of symbiotes seem to generally bend toward what readers would consider evil.

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* ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'':
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''Comicbook/SpiderMan'': The black costume that Spider-Man wore for a while is a sentient and aggressive, if not outright evil, [[BondCreature symbiote creature]]. It used to take his body walking and swinging around while he was unconscious, and its aggression in turn made Peter aggressive and darker. For that matter, this is true of most the spider-suit type symbiotes from the Marvel Universe. Venom is kind of an AntiHero (as a result of (due to the host's morals), but the majority of symbiotes seem to generally bend toward what readers would consider evil.
15th Jan '17 3:49:27 PM Endian
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** The black costume that Spider-Man wore for a while is a sentient and aggressive, if not outright evil, [[BondCreature symbiote creature]]. It used to take his body walking and swinging around while he was unconscious, and its aggression in turn made Peter aggressive and darker. For that matter, this is true of most the spider-suit type symbiotes from the Marvel Universe. Venom is kind of an AntiHero, but the majority of symbiotes seem to generally bend toward what readers would consider evil.
** Blaming the suit was a {{Retcon}}. After fans demanded the old red-and-blue suit back, the writers decided to use it as a means of creating a new villain. There was also the fact that Peter basically tried to kill an alien just because it attached itself to him and some writers felt that was a bit too cruel. As the stories originally played out, Spider-Man was as jovial as he always was while wearing the black costume and in fact wore a handmade version briefly before going back to the red-and-blues. That costume still comes back from time to time.
** This doesn't even account for the symbiote switching hosts to the son of a crime boss who auctioned it for his son, and then dissolved from around said son midway through a leap between buildings because he wasn't, well, venomous enough (he retained his normal personality, with the symbiote eventually giving up on grooming him into the next Venom). The symbiote then found its way to Mac Gargan (who was previously The Scorpion). When the symbiote re-encountered Eddie Brock and tried to bond with him again, Brock secreted his own, unknown symbiote that has a negative color scheme to Venom (Venom is black with a white spider and patches on hands, this new symbiote is white with a black spider), and called himself... wait for it... Anti-Venom. He's still semi-nuts.
** Comicbook/SpiderGirl muddied the waters by bringing back the Venom symbiote as evil and later having it go through a HeelFaceTurn, bonding momentarily with Spider-Girl and saving her life. Her father was highly dismayed by this, but as she said of the symbiote as it was executing a HeroicSacrifice - "She's grown. Matured. Evolved. She's an alien being who never wanted to come here. A symbiote creature whose first host rejected her - filling her with hate and resentment. Her second host twisted and used her. She became a vicious monster - until Normie Osborn welcomed her into his life. He taught her about friendship ... love ... and maybe even redemption." The symbiote in and of itself originally exhausted its host, but the "making the host evil" part [[LostInImitation started]] with ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries''.
** The Carnage miniseries (which brings the return of the psychotic symbiote with a new host), seems to imply that the symbiotes aren't naturally evil. The writer describes the symbiote as a kid being raised by a psycho (its first host Cletus Kasady), saying that had its first host had been some one not AxCrazy, the symbiote probably would have been good (see Toxin for example). They also explain that the Venom symbiote was already an Adult when it bonded with Peter, which is why it's more sadistic. This flies in the face of the ''Planet of the Symbiotes'' miniseries during ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. It also forgets about the fact that Carnage's original symbiote was destroyed years ago and the last one he wore was from the Negative Zone.
** Adding to the Snarl, the ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' storyline ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'s Secret ComicBook/SecretWars'' suggested the possibility that the symbiote's psychopathic personality comes from to a partial bonding with Deadpool, who quickly tossed it off and worried he did something to it. Though the reason he discarded it was that he felt the symbiote messing his head, so it may always have been like that.

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** The black costume that Spider-Man wore for a while is a sentient and aggressive, if not outright evil, [[BondCreature symbiote creature]]. It used to take his body walking and swinging around while he was unconscious, and its aggression in turn made Peter aggressive and darker. For that matter, this is true of most the spider-suit type symbiotes from the Marvel Universe. Venom is kind of an AntiHero, AntiHero (as a result of the host's morals), but the majority of symbiotes seem to generally bend toward what readers would consider evil.
** Blaming the suit was a {{Retcon}}. After fans demanded the old red-and-blue suit back, the writers decided to use it as a means of creating a new villain. There was also the fact that Peter basically tried to kill an alien just because it attached itself to him and some writers felt that was a bit too cruel. As the stories originally played out, Spider-Man was as jovial as he always was while wearing the black costume and in fact wore a handmade version briefly before going back to the red-and-blues. That costume still comes back from time to time.
** This doesn't even account for the symbiote switching hosts to the son of a crime boss who auctioned it for his son, and then dissolved from around said son midway through a leap between buildings because he wasn't, well, venomous enough (he retained his normal personality, with the symbiote eventually giving up on grooming him into the next Venom). The symbiote then found its way to Mac Gargan (who was previously The Scorpion). When the symbiote re-encountered Eddie Brock and tried to bond with him again, Brock secreted his own, unknown symbiote that has a negative color scheme to Venom (Venom is black with a white spider and patches on hands, this new symbiote is white with a black spider), and called himself... wait for it... Anti-Venom. He's still semi-nuts.
** Comicbook/SpiderGirl muddied the waters by bringing back the Venom symbiote as evil and later having it go through a HeelFaceTurn, bonding momentarily with Spider-Girl and saving her life. Her father was highly dismayed by this, but as she said of the symbiote as it was executing a HeroicSacrifice - "She's grown. Matured. Evolved. She's an alien being who never wanted to come here. A symbiote creature whose first host rejected her - filling her with hate and resentment. Her second host twisted and used her. She became a vicious monster - until Normie Osborn welcomed her into his life. He taught her about friendship ... love ... and maybe even redemption." The symbiote in and of itself originally exhausted its host, but the "making the host evil" part [[LostInImitation started]] with ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries''.
** The Carnage miniseries (which brings the return of the psychotic symbiote with a new host), seems to imply that the symbiotes aren't naturally evil. The writer describes the symbiote as a kid being raised by a psycho (its first host Cletus Kasady), saying that had its first host had been some one not AxCrazy, the symbiote probably would have been good (see Toxin for example). They also explain that the Venom symbiote was already an Adult when it bonded with Peter, which is why it's more sadistic. This flies in the face of the ''Planet of the Symbiotes'' miniseries during ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. It also forgets about the fact that Carnage's original symbiote was destroyed years ago and the last one he wore was from the Negative Zone.
** Adding to the Snarl, the ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' storyline ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'s Secret ComicBook/SecretWars'' suggested the possibility that the symbiote's psychopathic personality comes from to a partial bonding with Deadpool, who quickly tossed it off and worried he did something to it. Though the reason he discarded it was that he felt the symbiote messing his head, so it may always have been like that.
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8th Nov '16 12:21:20 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Rifts}}: Mercenaries'' features the [[PoweredArmor Angrar Mark 1 suit]], which, like the [[HumungousMecha Mark 2]], will slowly corrupt its wearer, causing demonic features to appear on them and leading to violence if anyone is caught near their armour; until eventually the person is absorbed by the suit [[spoiler:as the suit itself is actually a demon.]]

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Rifts}}: Mercenaries'' features the [[PoweredArmor Angrar Mark 1 suit]], which, like the [[HumungousMecha [[HumongousMecha Mark 2]], will slowly corrupt its wearer, causing demonic features to appear on them and leading to violence if anyone is caught near their armour; until eventually the person is absorbed by the suit [[spoiler:as the suit itself is actually a demon.]]
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