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3rd Nov '16 5:28:12 PM Nerrin
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* In ''VideoGame/SatelliteReign'', you possess an earlier iteration of the BigBad's resurrection technology, which means it still has some bugs. Specifically, your agents' clone bodies take increasing stat penalties with each death, meaning you have to abduct people off the streets to provide new cloning stock.
21st Oct '16 9:35:05 PM nombretomado
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* With the ''[[WebVideo/RoosterTeethShorts Secret Door]]'' short of Creator/RoosterTeeth, Gavin is cloned to improve efficiency, but when they find out, they're bound and gagged, and thrown into the closet. When Gavin finds out, they throw him in there, but remember they need the original, otherwise the clones will degenerate. [[spoiler:Problem is, they grab Ben for re-cloning instead, who was mistaken for a Gavin clone due to their BritishAccents.]]

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* With the ''[[WebVideo/RoosterTeethShorts Secret Door]]'' short of Creator/RoosterTeeth, Gavin is cloned to improve efficiency, but when they find out, they're bound and gagged, and thrown into the closet. When Gavin finds out, they throw him in there, but remember they need the original, otherwise the clones will degenerate. [[spoiler:Problem is, they grab Ben for re-cloning instead, who was mistaken for a Gavin clone due to their BritishAccents.UsefulNotes/BritishAccents.]]
4th Oct '16 2:06:15 PM Anicomicgeek
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* The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' episode, "Meltdown", sees Mr. Freeze cloned into a new body that seemed to lack the condition that require a special suit for survival in above zero temperatures, but the body began to show signs of this trope as it redeveloped the condition. Considering a piece of BackportedDevelopment was Victor Fries being bald despite a pre-Freeze Victor having hair in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', the baldness might've been an early sign of this.
1st Oct '16 11:28:29 AM Vir
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': In "[=CopyBob DittoPants=]", Plankton photocopies a bunch of [=SpongeBob=] clones to get the Krabby Patty formula. He used cheap toner to make them, so after a while they all roll up and disappear from existence.
22nd Sep '16 4:25:33 PM Grug
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* ''Literature/ThePrestige'': Averted. [[spoiler:Tesla's cloning machine is so perfect it's impossible to tell which is the original, even after years of cloning clones of clones. ]]
13th Sep '16 11:38:26 PM PaulA
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* Though technically not because of being a clone, (and not actually being a "clone" in the strictest sense) Bean of the ''[[Literature/EndersGame Ender's Shadow]]'' series is this because of [[spoiler: Anton's Gene being activated]] in him, which makes him smarter because his [[spoiler:brain and body never stop growing]] at the cost of becoming [[spoiler:a giant and eventual death]].
4th Aug '16 11:28:47 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** This also applies to human clones. Individual organs can be cloned and used for transplants without a problem, it's when you clone the whole body do things go south. Flash-cloning (which is the only method of cloning seen in the ''Halo'' universe) is when the clones are aged up to the original person who supplied the DNA. The clone will have the mind of an infant, given that it has zero memories, and the body will deteriorate and usually die within a couple months. Apparently the cloned body's metabolism just can't stabilize itself correctly. Despite this procedure being highly illegal, flash clones were used to cover up the SPARTAN-II project; ONI took the children, and gave the parents clones. As far as any of the parents could guess, their children inexplicably went into a vegetative state and died from an unknown disease.

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** This also applies to human clones. Individual organs can be cloned and used for transplants without a problem, it's when you clone the whole body do that things go south. Flash-cloning (which is the only method of cloning seen in the ''Halo'' universe) is when the clones are aged up to the original person who supplied the DNA. The clone will have the mind of an infant, given that it has zero memories, and the body will deteriorate and usually die within a couple months. Apparently the cloned body's metabolism just can't stabilize itself correctly. Despite this procedure being highly illegal, flash clones were used to cover up the SPARTAN-II project; ONI took the children, and gave the parents clones. As far as any of the parents could guess, their children inexplicably went into a vegetative state and died from an unknown disease.
4th Aug '16 11:28:19 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** This also applies to human clones. Individual organs can be cloned and used for transplants without a problem, it's when you clone the whole body do things go south. Flash-cloning (which is the only method of cloning seen in the ''Halo'' universe) is wheen the clones are aged up to the original person who supplied the DNA. The clone will have the mind of an infant, given that it has zero memories, and the body will deteriorate and usually die within a couple months. Apparently the cloned body's metabolism just can't stabilize itself correctly. Despite this procedure being highly illegal, flash clones were used to cover up the SPARTAN-II project; ONI took the children, and gave the parents clones. As far as any of the parents could guess, their children inexplicably went into a vegetative state and died from an unknown disease.

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** This also applies to human clones. Individual organs can be cloned and used for transplants without a problem, it's when you clone the whole body do things go south. Flash-cloning (which is the only method of cloning seen in the ''Halo'' universe) is wheen when the clones are aged up to the original person who supplied the DNA. The clone will have the mind of an infant, given that it has zero memories, and the body will deteriorate and usually die within a couple months. Apparently the cloned body's metabolism just can't stabilize itself correctly. Despite this procedure being highly illegal, flash clones were used to cover up the SPARTAN-II project; ONI took the children, and gave the parents clones. As far as any of the parents could guess, their children inexplicably went into a vegetative state and died from an unknown disease.
4th Aug '16 11:27:53 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** This is the reason you don't make copies of [=AIs=]. In ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Cortana actually weaponizes this; she used alien technology to create new (slightly flawed) instances of herself in a Covenant warship so she could be in two places at once. The copies made copies. The copies of the copies made copies. The quickly-growing swarm of [=AIs=] started forking off copies for specialized tasks, having those copies be overwhelmed by Covie [=AIs=], and spinning off more copies. Eventually the alien ship filled its computers to the roof with Cortana clones, segfaulted, and blew up. On top of that, those flawed copies also managed to complete their assigned mission. What's really wacky is that it's implied that Cortana got the copy program from one of her own (completely insane) [[StableTimeLoop time-lost copies]], thanks to the presence of a [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] time-manipulation device.

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** This is the reason you don't make copies of [=AIs=]. In ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Cortana actually weaponizes this; she used alien technology to create new (slightly flawed) instances of herself in a Covenant warship so she could be in two places at once. The copies made copies. The copies of the copies made copies. The quickly-growing swarm of [=AIs=] started forking off copies for specialized tasks, having those copies be overwhelmed by Covie [=AIs=], and spinning off more copies. Eventually the alien ship filled its computers to the roof with Cortana clones, segfaulted, and blew up. On top of that, those flawed copies also managed did actually manage to complete their assigned mission.missions. What's really wacky is that it's implied that Cortana got the copy program from one of her own (completely insane) [[StableTimeLoop time-lost copies]], thanks to the presence of a [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] time-manipulation device.
4th Aug '16 11:26:07 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* This is the reason you don't make copies of [=AIs=] in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' universe. In the ''First Strike'' novel, Cortana used alien technology to create new (slightly flawed) instances of herself in a Covenant warship so she could be in two places at once. The copies made copies. The copies of the copies made copies. The quickly-growing swarm of [=AIs=] started forking off copies for specialized tasks, having those copies be overwhelmed by Covvie [=AIs=], and spinning off more copies. Eventually the alien ship filled its computers to the roof with Cortana clones, segfaulted, and blew up.
** Though the "blowing up" part was entirely deliberate. Even as flawed as the copies were, they still managed to complete their mission. What's really wacky is that it's implied that Cortana got the copy program from one of her own (completely insane) [[StableTimeLoop time-lost copies]], thanks to the presence of a [[PreCursors Forerunner]] time-manipulation device.
** This also applies to human clones. Individual organs can be cloned and used for transplants without a problem, it's when you clone the whole body do things go south. The flash clones (which are the only method of cloning seen in the Halo universe) is where the clones are aged up to the person who supplied the DNA. The clone will have the mind of an infant, given that it has zero memories, and the body will deteriorate and quickly die within a couple months. Apparently the cloned body's metabolism just can't stabilize itself correctly. The procedure is highly illegal.
*** Clones were used to cover up the Spartan-II project. ONI took the children, and gave the parents flash clones. As far as any of the parents could guess, their children inexplicably went into a vegetative state and died from an unknown disease.
*** In ''Literature/HaloGlasslands'', it's implied that the whole incident, when revealed to the public, will be put squarely on Dr. Halsey's shoulders, even though such a task would require dozens of people to participate, not to mention the approval of the top ONI management. Then again, what politicians and bureaucrats are known for is covering their asses and finding scapegoats.
** "Smart" [=AIs=] are usually created by brain-scanning dead people, though Cortana herself was created from the flash-cloned brain of the still-alive Dr. Halsey. After a period of roughly [[ArcNumber seven]] years, all "Smart" [=AIs=] will eventually accumulate so much information that they basically think themselves to death; during this terminal phase, the [=AI=] falls into a state of "rampancy" in which it develops both "delusions of godlike power" and utter contempt for its mentally inferior makers.
*** [[OhCrap Oh, and guess how long Cortana has been active as of Halo 4.]]
*** The novel ''Literature/HaloTheColeProtocol'' also demonstrates a "Smart" AI past its lifespan. Juliana, the AI of Rubble (a conglomeration of hollowed-out asteroids joined by tubes), has been active for at least 8 years and is definitely showing signs of instability. The only thing keeping Juliana "sane" is her primary task of keeping Rubble from breaking apart and protecting the people living there. After Rubble is evacuated (the Covvies are about to show up), Juliana stays with it, as she no longer has anything to keep her from going into full rampancy. The novel also establishes that it's common among humans to indicate that an AI is going into rampancy by showing "seven" with their fingers. Oh, and the [=AIs=] also know the gesture, and Juliana gets pissed off when a SPARTAN shows it to his team.

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This is the reason you don't make copies of [=AIs=] in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' universe. [=AIs=]. In the ''First Strike'' novel, ''Literature/HaloFirstStrike'', Cortana actually weaponizes this; she used alien technology to create new (slightly flawed) instances of herself in a Covenant warship so she could be in two places at once. The copies made copies. The copies of the copies made copies. The quickly-growing swarm of [=AIs=] started forking off copies for specialized tasks, having those copies be overwhelmed by Covvie Covie [=AIs=], and spinning off more copies. Eventually the alien ship filled its computers to the roof with Cortana clones, segfaulted, and blew up.
** Though the "blowing up" part was entirely deliberate. Even as
up. On top of that, those flawed as the copies were, they still also managed to complete their assigned mission. What's really wacky is that it's implied that Cortana got the copy program from one of her own (completely insane) [[StableTimeLoop time-lost copies]], thanks to the presence of a [[PreCursors [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] time-manipulation device.
** This also applies to human clones. Individual organs can be cloned and used for transplants without a problem, it's when you clone the whole body do things go south. The flash clones Flash-cloning (which are is the only method of cloning seen in the Halo ''Halo'' universe) is where wheen the clones are aged up to the original person who supplied the DNA. The clone will have the mind of an infant, given that it has zero memories, and the body will deteriorate and quickly usually die within a couple months. Apparently the cloned body's metabolism just can't stabilize itself correctly. The Despite this procedure is being highly illegal.
*** Clones
illegal, flash clones were used to cover up the Spartan-II project. SPARTAN-II project; ONI took the children, and gave the parents flash clones. As far as any of the parents could guess, their children inexplicably went into a vegetative state and died from an unknown disease.
*** In ''Literature/HaloGlasslands'', it's implied that the whole incident, when revealed to the public, will be put squarely on Dr. Halsey's shoulders, even though such a task would require dozens of people to participate, not to mention the approval of the top ONI management. Then again, what politicians and bureaucrats are known for is covering their asses and finding scapegoats.
** "Smart" Human-made "smart" [=AIs=] are an interesting example, as they are usually created by brain-scanning dead people, though people (though Cortana herself was created from the flash-cloned brain of the still-alive Dr. Halsey. Halsey): After a period of roughly [[ArcNumber seven]] years, all "Smart" [=AIs=] will eventually accumulate so much information that they basically think themselves to death; during this terminal phase, the [=AI=] falls into a state of "rampancy" in which it develops both "delusions of godlike power" and utter contempt for its mentally inferior makers.
*** [[OhCrap Oh, and guess how long Much of ''VideoGame/{{Halo 4}}''[='s=] plot is about Cortana has been active as of Halo 4.]]
dealing with her ever-worsening rampancy.
*** The novel ''Literature/HaloTheColeProtocol'' also demonstrates a "Smart" AI past its lifespan. Juliana, the AI of the Rubble (a conglomeration of hollowed-out asteroids joined by tubes), has been active for at least 8 years and is definitely showing signs of instability. The only thing keeping Juliana "sane" is her primary task of keeping the Rubble from breaking apart and protecting the people living there. After [[spoiler:After the Rubble is evacuated (the Covvies are about to show up), so that it can be {{Colony Drop}}ped on the local Covenant base, Juliana stays chooses to go down with it, the "ship", as she no longer has anything to keep her from going into full rampancy. rampancy.]] The novel also establishes that it's common among humans to indicate that an AI is going into rampancy by showing "seven" with their fingers. Oh, and the [=AIs=] also know the gesture, and Juliana gets pissed off when a SPARTAN Spartan shows it to his team.
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