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22nd Nov '17 11:38:31 AM lillolillo
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* ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1982}} In a classic issue]]'' ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' fights Kraken, a super-villain who claims to be a wizard. Kara deduces Kraken is not a wizard, because if his skills were magic-based, she would have been seriously hurt when his blows hit her. She scans his costume with her XRayVision and spots his gadgets.
-->'''Supergirl:''' So much for your magic or should I say super-science... technological marvels that only appear magical to someone not familiar with them!

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* ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl 1982}} ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'':
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In a ''[[Comicbook/Supergirl1982 classic issue]]'' ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' Supergirl fights Kraken, a super-villain who claims to be a wizard. Kara deduces Kraken is not a wizard, because if his skills were magic-based, she would have been seriously hurt when his blows hit her. She scans his costume with her XRayVision and spots his gadgets.
-->'''Supergirl:''' --->'''Supergirl:''' So much for your magic or should I say super-science... technological marvels that only appear magical to someone not familiar with them!them!
** Invoked constantly by a secondary character in the final arc of ''[[ComicBook/Supergirl2005 Supergirl (Volume 5)]]'', Invoked constantly by a secondary character in the final arc:
--->'''Henry Flyte:''' Magic is just the science for which we don't know the rules quite yet!
** In that same storyline another character said: "It only looks like magic if you can't do the math."
4th Nov '17 9:53:55 PM Nutster
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* ''Webcomic/{{Westward}}'' [[http://westwardcomic.com/comic.php?itemid=18 evokes the Law in an early strip]]. One of the characters notes that the ([[BlackBox essentially incomprehensible]]) form of FasterThanLightTravel used by the titular CoolStarship is easier to accept if one thinks of it as magic, rather than technology.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Westward}}'' [[http://westwardcomic.com/comic.php?itemid=18 com/strips/0013/ evokes the Law in an early strip]]. One of the characters notes that the ([[BlackBox essentially incomprehensible]]) form of FasterThanLightTravel used by the titular CoolStarship is easier to accept if one thinks of it as magic, rather than technology.
25th Oct '17 1:38:46 AM PaulA
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* Taken to its extreme in ''The Flying Sorcerers'' by David Gerrold and Larry Niven. A planetary scout gets stranded on a primitive world, and has to enlist the help of the natives to get to a place he can summon help. Said natives have to be taught production technology and how to create certain things in order to do this...which makes them regard him as a high-powered magician The story is also told from the perspective of ''one of the natives'', for added humor. [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]] has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Sorcerers page]] on the story.

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* Taken to its extreme in ''The Flying Sorcerers'' ''Literature/TheFlyingSorcerers'' by David Gerrold and Larry Niven. A planetary scout gets stranded on a primitive world, and has to enlist the help of the natives to get to a place he can summon help. Said natives have to be taught production technology and how to create certain things in order to do this...which makes them regard him as a high-powered magician magician. The story is also told from the perspective of ''one one of the natives'', natives, for added humor. [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]] has a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Sorcerers page]] on the story.humor.
16th Oct '17 10:34:23 AM xcountryguy
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* ''Manga/OutlawStar'' featured as an important plot point the Caster Guns that fire unique shells that are incredibly powerful. The main theories as to their origin is that they are either a piece of lost advanced technology or magical in nature. [[spoiler: It turns out to be a little of both.]]

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* ''Manga/OutlawStar'' featured as an important plot point the Caster Guns that fire unique shells that are incredibly powerful. The main theories as to their origin is that they are either a piece of lost advanced technology or magical in nature. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It turns out to be a little of both.]]



* Likewise, in ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'', Kite had the power to take the soul of anyone he beats, like a Millennium Item wielder. The catch is, all of his power is attributed to science. Deconstructed, as other characters can achieve the same results using actual magic [[spoiler: without dealing with the detrimental side-effects that destroy Kite's health.]]

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* Likewise, in ''Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL'', Kite had the power to take the soul of anyone he beats, like a Millennium Item wielder. The catch is, all of his power is attributed to science. Deconstructed, as other characters can achieve the same results using actual magic [[spoiler: without [[spoiler:without dealing with the detrimental side-effects that destroy Kite's health.]]



* ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'': the Wizard [[TheManBehindTheCurtain fakes the all-powerful wizard role using a machine]]. He does it again in ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful'': Oscar fools the inhabitants of Oz into believing he is the Wizard prophesied to save their land using technology and parlor tricks from his homeland. His plan to [[spoiler: rescue Glinda and retake the Emerald City]] in the climax hinges on the wicked witches not being able to distinguish his technology from genuine magical ability.

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* ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'': the Wizard [[TheManBehindTheCurtain fakes the all-powerful wizard role using a machine]]. He does it again in ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful'': Oscar fools the inhabitants of Oz into believing he is the Wizard prophesied to save their land using technology and parlor tricks from his homeland. His plan to [[spoiler: rescue [[spoiler:rescue Glinda and retake the Emerald City]] in the climax hinges on the wicked witches not being able to distinguish his technology from genuine magical ability.



** The Ixians emphasize pure technology and can electronically duplicate [[spoiler: the Guild Navigators' future-path-mapping abilities]] and in the process [[spoiler:nearly bring about the extinction of humankind]].

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** The Ixians emphasize pure technology and can electronically duplicate [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Guild Navigators' future-path-mapping abilities]] and in the process [[spoiler:nearly bring about the extinction of humankind]].



* Jenny Ng and stage magician Calvin [=McGuirk=], in Geoph Essex's ''Lovely Assistant'', invoke the trope by name, with a nod to Clarke himself, in their first discussion of Calvin's incredible props. It turns out to be a bit of a theme, considering what the {{Big Bad}}s say about the same props shortly before [[SavingTheWorld the climax]]. The actual origin of the items [[spoiler: is never fully explained, but based on the nature of the [[OurMonstersAreDifferent monster]] they [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu face]], probably ''is'' technological rather than magical, proving Clarke's point]] -- [[SciFiKitchenSink which]] is [[FantasyKitchenSink ironic]], since [[spoiler: Jenny herself is probably magical rather than technological, as a [[TheGrimReaper Grim Reaper]]]].

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* Jenny Ng and stage magician Calvin [=McGuirk=], in Geoph Essex's ''Lovely Assistant'', invoke the trope by name, with a nod to Clarke himself, in their first discussion of Calvin's incredible props. It turns out to be a bit of a theme, considering what the {{Big Bad}}s say about the same props shortly before [[SavingTheWorld the climax]]. The actual origin of the items [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is never fully explained, but based on the nature of the [[OurMonstersAreDifferent monster]] they [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu face]], probably ''is'' technological rather than magical, proving Clarke's point]] -- [[SciFiKitchenSink which]] is [[FantasyKitchenSink ironic]], since [[spoiler: Jenny [[spoiler:Jenny herself is probably magical rather than technological, as a [[TheGrimReaper Grim Reaper]]]].



* Downplayed and partly averted in ''Literature/SixtyEightRooms'' by Mariannne Malone. Jack showed Thomas (from the seventeenth century) a flashlight, but tried to explain how it worked. Thomas, eight-years-old, doesn't understand, but comments that if it was witchcraft, he wasn't afraid of it. [[spoiler: Thomas later becomes an inventor]].

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* Downplayed and partly averted in ''Literature/SixtyEightRooms'' by Mariannne Malone. Jack showed Thomas (from the seventeenth century) a flashlight, but tried to explain how it worked. Thomas, eight-years-old, doesn't understand, but comments that if it was witchcraft, he wasn't afraid of it. [[spoiler: Thomas [[spoiler:Thomas later becomes an inventor]].



* Zig-zagged, in ''[[Literature/TheReckonersTrilogy Steelheart]]''. Prof uses technology to imitate an Epic for Steelheart to fight. [[spoiler: Then we learn that he was really an Epic all along, and the most of the technology he used was fake.]]

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* Zig-zagged, in ''[[Literature/TheReckonersTrilogy Steelheart]]''. Prof uses technology to imitate an Epic for Steelheart to fight. [[spoiler: Then [[spoiler:Then we learn that he was really an Epic all along, and the most of the technology he used was fake.]]



* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', there is a [[MagicVersusScience clear distinction between science and magic]], however the "magic" used by most characters is called ''Ars Magus'', which is in actuality [[{{Magitek}} a middle ground between the two.]] Pure magic is defined as much more powerful, and currently the only known characters to wield it are Rachel, Phantom [[spoiler: and her daughter, Kokonoe.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', there is a [[MagicVersusScience clear distinction between science and magic]], however the "magic" used by most characters is called ''Ars Magus'', which is in actuality [[{{Magitek}} a middle ground between the two.]] Pure magic is defined as much more powerful, and currently the only known characters to wield it are Rachel, Phantom [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and her daughter, Kokonoe.]]
15th Oct '17 8:00:31 AM GopherBroke
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15th Oct '17 8:00:26 AM GopherBroke
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' features both magic and SufficientlyAdvancedAliens [[spoiler:in the form of the Incubators, bizarre cat-like aliens who grant human beings access to magic in exchange for their services as Magical Girls (and an eventual inevitable transformation into Witches]]. The line between magic and technology can become extremely blurry with [[spoiler:the Incubators]], but it seems that almost all that they do other than [[spoiler:the granting of wishes]] is done with conventional but highly advanced means, since magic use appears to require psychological traits that they don't possess. [[spoiler:This includes moving human souls to new containers, forming new bodies from the air, and ensnaring a PhysicalGod in a trap with a person's soul as bait]].

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' features both magic and SufficientlyAdvancedAliens [[spoiler:in the form of the Incubators, bizarre cat-like aliens who grant human beings access to magic in exchange for their services as Magical Girls (and an eventual inevitable transformation into Witches]].Witches)]]. The line between magic and technology can become extremely blurry with [[spoiler:the Incubators]], but it seems that almost all that they do other than [[spoiler:the granting of wishes]] is done with conventional but highly advanced means, since magic use appears to require psychological traits that they don't possess. [[spoiler:This includes moving human souls to new containers, forming new bodies from the air, and ensnaring a PhysicalGod in a trap with a person's soul as bait]].
15th Oct '17 7:59:02 AM GopherBroke
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' features both magic and SufficientlyAdvancedAliens [[spoiler:in the form of the Incubators, bizarre cat-like aliens who grant human beings access to magic in exchange for their services as Magical Girls (and an eventual inevitable transformation into Witches]]. The line between magic and technology can become extremely blurry with [[spoiler:the Incubators]], but it seems that almost all that they do other than [[spoiler:the granting of wishes]] is done with conventional but highly advanced means, since magic use appears to require psychological traits that they don't possess. [[spoiler:This includes moving human souls to new containers, forming new bodies from the air, and ensnaring a PhysicalGod in a trap with a person's soul as bait]].
7th Oct '17 4:20:25 AM porphyre77
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* In the world of [[TabletopGame/EmpireOfThePetalThrone Tékumel]] most magic artifacts (called "eyes") actually are objects of highly advanced technology, of which all memories have been lost [[AfterTheEnd in a cataclysm]]. And the "magic" of wizards and priests actually are just PsychicPowers activated in certain individuals by the SufficientlyAdvancedAliens / EnergyBeings that the people of Tékumel see as gods.
26th Sep '17 9:40:03 AM Doug86
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In case you're wondering, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws here are all three laws]]. The first law is partially covered by InTheory and the second by BeyondTheImpossible.

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In case you're wondering, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws here are all three laws]]. The first law is partially covered by InTheory and the second by BeyondTheImpossible.
26th Sep '17 9:39:34 AM Doug86
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In case you're wondering, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarkes_three_laws here are all three laws]]. The first law is partially covered by InTheory and the second by BeyondTheImpossible.

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In case you're wondering, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarkes_three_laws org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws here are all three laws]]. The first law is partially covered by InTheory and the second by BeyondTheImpossible.
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