History Main / Cincinnatus

15th Apr '18 12:02:12 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Zeng Guofan was a Hunanese official, who raised a massive army from his home province that was completely loyal to him in order to crush the Taiping Rebellion. By the end of the war, the Qing Dynasty had almost no military force left, and had relied entirely on Zeng Guofan and the foreign-led Ever Victorious Army to fight the rebels; as the Qing were seen as outsiders by the Han Chinese, Zeng Guofan's brothers advised him to march north to Beijing, expel the Qing, and declare himself emperor. Horribly traumatized by the bloodiest civil war in history, Zeng Guofan declined, disbanded his army of 120,000, and was thereafter seen as a CategoryTraitor by his fellow Han Chinese for a century afterwards.

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* Zeng Guofan was a Hunanese official, who raised a massive army from his home province that was completely loyal to him in order to crush the Taiping Rebellion. By the end of the war, the Qing Dynasty had almost no military force left, and had relied entirely on Zeng Guofan and the foreign-led Ever Victorious Army to fight the rebels; as the Qing were seen as outsiders by the Han Chinese, Zeng Guofan's brothers advised him to march north to Beijing, expel the Qing, and declare himself emperor. Horribly traumatized by the bloodiest civil war in history, Zeng Guofan declined, disbanded his army of 120,000, and was thereafter seen as a CategoryTraitor by his fellow Han Chinese for a century afterwards.afterwards, although both the Republican and communist governments later praised Guofan as a hero.
21st Mar '18 10:31:08 AM MasterFuzzy
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** In ''Death in Heaven'', it's revealed that in the event of a worldwide invasion, one person may be elected as President of Earth. Three guess who all the nations choose, and the first two don't count. Obviously, The Doctor doesn't like being President of Earth any more than he liked being President of Galifrey, and wants to get rid of the responsibility ASAP.

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** In ''Death in Heaven'', it's revealed that in the event of a worldwide invasion, one person may be elected as President of Earth.Earth by the UN and all the world's armed forces. Three guess who all the nations choose, and the first two don't count. Obviously, The the Doctor doesn't like being President of Earth any more than he liked being President of Galifrey, and wants to get rid of the responsibility ASAP.ASAP. However, he'll still take advantage of the position in order to get {{Obstructive Bureaucrat}}s to do what he wants. And to ride the CoolPlane.
** In a non-political example, the Doctor's status as a time-traveller and occasional {{Chessmaster}} means that he could easily get the timeline to do what he wants, and manipulate people and even planets long-term. However, he firmly believes that WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility, and his companions provide helpful {{Morality Chain}}s to stop him from believing that AGodAmI. On the very rare occasions that he slips up...well, it's ''really'' not good.
2nd Mar '18 4:37:49 PM darkemyst
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': Boris Myshkin-Dolokhov is put in command of the empire when the Baron is out of commission and Gil is missing and he hates it.
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21st Jan '18 4:33:52 AM Dingbot
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* The page quote comes from Worf in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', who, after killing Chancellor Gowron (who had been misusing his power and throwing away the war effort for his own political gain) in a death duel, had become Chancellor [[KlingonPromotion through right of combat]]. As the other Klingons in the room start to hail Worf as the new Chancellor, Worf stops them and immediately abdicates power to General Martok, who he saw as the best military leader.
* Similarly, in ''Series/BabylonFive'', [[spoiler:John J. Sheridan]] was elected President of the new "[[TheFederation Intersteller Alliance]]" after he helped depose Morgan Clark, the fascist President of Earth. The new Earth president made him resign in exchange for amnesty, so the alien representatives voted him into office to keep him on the station.

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* The page quote comes from Worf in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', who, after killing Chancellor Gowron (who had been misusing his power and throwing away the war effort for his own political gain) in a death duel, had become Chancellor [[KlingonPromotion through right rite of combat]]. As the other Klingons in the room start to hail Worf as the new Chancellor, Worf stops them and immediately abdicates power to General Martok, who he saw as the best military leader.
* Similarly, in ''Series/BabylonFive'', [[spoiler:John J. Sheridan]] was elected President of the new "[[TheFederation Intersteller Interstellar Alliance]]" after he helped depose Morgan Clark, the fascist President of Earth. The new Earth president made him resign in exchange for amnesty, so the alien representatives voted him into office to keep him on the station.
3rd Jan '18 12:12:12 PM starcaptain
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** [[TheRuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement While opinions of him vary]], George W. Bush chose not to invoke emergency powers after the World Trade Center attacks, when he ''very'' easily could have and was actually expected to. He did escalate a trend of increasing the powers of the presidency but was quite happy to leave when his second term was up.
24th Dec '17 8:40:44 PM TheDudeWhoAbides
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* UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell [[CreatorProvincialism pulled this more than a hundred years previously]] during [[UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar the previous]] [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution British Civil War]]. He also refused to become king after leading The Parliamentarians to victory (and the execution of King Charles I) and being outright offered the crown. Much like (and likely more so than) Washington, it's uncertain how much of his borderline-saintly reputation is historical fact and how much was propaganda. He subverted this trope in his last years ruling the Commonwealth of England (the republican regime that ruled the British Isles) as its "Lord Protector" (read: king in all but name) until his death. That being said, Cromwell seems to have been genuinely conflicted about this and hoped to establish a real republic; it's just that the various political factions in England were constantly at odds and basically could never agree on anything except that they liked Cromwell.

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* UsefulNotes/OliverCromwell [[CreatorProvincialism pulled this more than a hundred years previously]] during [[UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar the previous]] [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution British Civil War]].UsefulNotes/EnglishCivilWar. He also refused to become king after leading The Parliamentarians to victory (and the execution of King Charles I) and being outright offered the crown. Much like (and likely more so than) Washington, it's uncertain how much of his borderline-saintly reputation is historical fact and how much was propaganda. He subverted this trope in his last years ruling the Commonwealth of England (the republican regime that ruled the British Isles) as its "Lord Protector" (read: king in all but name) until his death. That being said, Cromwell seems to have been genuinely conflicted about this and hoped to establish a real republic; it's just that the various political factions in England were constantly at odds and basically could never agree on anything except that they liked Cromwell.
2nd Nov '17 7:54:00 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* Militia leader John Rumford in ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'', who is a farmer primarily and TheHero only while he is needed. Even invoked in-story.
4th Oct '17 7:40:37 PM Caps-luna
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** [[TheRuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement While opinions of him vary]], George W. Bush chose not to invoke emergency powers after the World Trade Center attacks, when he ''very'' easily could have and was actually expected to. He did escalate a trend of increasing the powers of the presidency but was quite happy to leave when his second term was up.
24th Sep '17 5:48:14 AM RoninMacbeth
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* Franchise/{{Superman}}. He's the single most powerful man on Earth, and in various alternate universes (and on ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'') the writers have shown that he could take over the world... if he ''wanted'' to. However, Superman, being raised as an idealist by the Kents, believes in using his powers to help the little guy. On multiple occasions, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Lex Luthor and Darkseid have both expressed a complete inability to understand this ideal]], as they are both power-hungry. Superman's decision to use his powers to help others and his refusal to seize power is the reason why the Justice League members pretty universally consider Clark to be someone they can all believe in, and the reason why most citizens of the DCU Earth consider Superman to be their world's greatest hero.

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}. He's the single most powerful man on Earth, and in various alternate universes (and on ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'') the writers have shown that he could take over the world... if he ''wanted'' to. However, Superman, being raised as an idealist by the Kents, believes in using his powers to help the little guy. On multiple occasions, ComicBook/LexLuthor and ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Lex Luthor and Darkseid have both expressed a complete inability to understand this ideal]], as they are both power-hungry.Lex is egomaniacal and power-hungry, while Darkseid is the [[GodOfEvil god of tyranny]]. Superman's decision to use his powers to help others and his refusal to seize power is the reason why the Justice League members pretty universally consider Clark to be someone they can all believe in, and the reason why most citizens of the DCU Earth consider Superman to be their world's greatest hero.
6th Sep '17 6:20:40 AM Bebop
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** Fittingly, Scipio's main political opponent (and the guy who kept Hannibal at bay until Scipio defeated him) Fabius: he was bestowed the title of ''dictator'' and used it to [[DeathOfAThousandCuts launch a guerrilla campaign]] [[BoringYetPractical that, in spite of being unpopular, kept Hannibal's army in check and at one point came close to destroying it]]; when his term expired and the Senate refused to renovate it he dutifully left, and [[DarkestHour after Cannae]] he resumed the campaign and set things up so that Hannibal would be unable to march on Rome while slowly losing his support. He was never reappointed ''dictator'', but he didn't need it.

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** Fittingly, Scipio's main political opponent (and the guy who kept Hannibal at bay until Scipio defeated him) Fabius: he was bestowed the title of ''dictator'' and used it to [[DeathOfAThousandCuts launch a guerrilla campaign]] [[BoringYetPractical that, in spite of being unpopular, kept Hannibal's army in check and at one point came close to destroying it]]; when it]]. When his term expired and the Senate refused to renovate it renew it, he dutifully left, and left. And [[DarkestHour after Cannae]] Cannae]], he resumed the campaign and set things up so that Hannibal would be unable to march on Rome while slowly losing his support. He was never reappointed ''dictator'', but he didn't need it.



** Another historical example is UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington, who was unanimously elected to two terms as U.S. president. When there was no law or even a custom about serving only that many, he declined to run for election again (in fact, he started the custom, which in spite of attempts at third terms by some presidents, wasn't actually broken until UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt). He could have served even longer, but is considered a modern Cincinnatus for not doing so. Cincinnati is partly named in his honor also. Washington pulled this off once prior when he resigned his commission in the army and went back to private life for ''years'' before becoming president. On hearing that Washington planned to invoke this trope, King George III said, "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world."

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** Another historical example is UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington, who was unanimously elected to two terms as U.S. president. When Even though there was no law or even a custom about serving at the time limiting presidents to only that many, two terms in office, he declined to run for election again (in fact, he started the custom, which (thereby establishing a custom that, in spite of attempts at a third terms term by some presidents, wasn't actually broken until UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt). He could have served even longer, but is considered a modern Cincinnatus for not doing so. Cincinnati is partly named in his honor also. Washington pulled this off once prior when he resigned his commission in the army and went back to private life for ''years'' before becoming president. On hearing that Washington planned to invoke this trope, King George III said, "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world."
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