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18th Nov '13 8:10:22 PM PaulA
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''Children of Eden'' is a retelling of several stories from the Book of Genesis: Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, and Noah's Ark. The show takes liberties with the stories and is more of an allegory about the relationship between parents and children than it is about religion.

The musical play is written by Creator/StephenSchwartz, and the book by John Caird.

Not to be confused with ''ChildOfEden''.

!!This musical provides examples of:

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Basically the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.[[invoked]]
* CainAndAbel: Literally, of course.
* CharacterDevelopment: God, of all people (deities?) goes through the most. He starts out selfish and looking out only for his own interests and seems to have 'children' to glorify himself. He needs obedience and control from his children and his quick to anger and slow to forgive. By the end of the show he has realized that he has to let go of his children and let them live their own lives.
* ChildrenAreInnocent: Father thinks this of Adam and Eve, and thus they need to be controlled.
* CuriosityIsACrapshoot: Eve's curiosity gets her and Adam expelled from the garden of Eden, and certainly brings them and their descendants misery and trouble, but it is also presented as what gave Eve the ability to grow up, make her own choices and live her own life for herself, not only as someone's child. She does not regret what she did.
* ConstantlyCurious: Eve.
-->'''Eve''': Why did you put questions in me?\\
'''Father''': Why did you disobey me?\\
'''Eve''': That's not an answer!
* CutSong: Between the London and Papermill versions 'Shipshape', 'Degenerations', and 'Civilized Society' were cut. 'World Without You' and 'Lost In the Wilderness' were completely rewritten with only the titles and a few words staying the same.
* DarkReprise:
** "Spark of Creation" gets two, one as Eve realizes she has passed the yearning she has to Cain, and doesn't like the look of it, and a second when Noah confesses God doesn't talk to him any more, and Mama Noah must convince Noah to make a choice for himself.
** The Wasteland is reprised as Abel's DeathSong.
** 'Father's Day' is reprised by Adam when he realizes he can either control his children and risk their hatred or let them go.
* DeathSong: Abel's reprise, but also, Children of Eden could be considered Eve's death song.
* DivineParentage: Adam and Eve have the original, of course.
* DotingParent: Father is one, for better or worse.
* ForbiddenFruit: The TropeNamer appears of course, but it is not so much the lure of the forbidden that tempts Eve, but she truly desires the knowledge that it will bring her.
* HappilyMarried: Adam and Eve, and Noah and Mama Noah.
* {{God}}: Or, Father, as he's called.
* IAmSong: 'Spark of Creation' for Eve, 'Lost in the Wildnerness' for Cain 'Stranger To the Rain' for Yonah and 'Father's Day' for Father.
* GospelRevivalNumber: "Ain't It Good"
* GreekChorus: The Storytellers
* ListSong: "The Naming", in which Adam names the animals, and "Generations", one of those big long "begetting" lists from Literature/TheBible done as a fun production number.
* MeaningfulEcho:
** 'Oh Father, please don't make me choose/either way it's more than i can bare to lose' is first said by Adam to Father, when Father tells him to stay in the garden without Eve, or leave with her. It is then said by Abel to Cain, when Cain tells him to come with him, or stay behind as he leaves the garden. The third is in the second act, when Noah cannot choose whether to throw Yonah and Japeth off the boat, or marry them and risk god's wrath.
** 'Here we are, your grateful children' is echoed by Father as 'ungrateful children' a few times, and eventually becomes 'Fare thee well, my precious children.'
** In Children of Eden, Father says "No more questions, daughter Eve. It's time to sleep" twice. The first time is when she's an excited child tiring herself out with curiosity. The second is when she's a grandmother about to die, worrying about the future of her children and humanity.
** 'Father's Day' is echoed by Cain's bitter "Is this what it means to be a father...?" The first time, the tune is innocent and soothing, and the second time, it's bitter and mocking.
** The tune of the titular song crops up first as Father presenting the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve, Eve saying goodbye to all her children in the first act finale, Yonah setting the dove free in the second act, and then by the cast to the audience at the very end of the play, with a different meaning each time.
* OverprotectiveDad: Father, again, but so is Adam.
* RecurringRiff: So, so many. In fact, try to find a melody that ISN'T repeated somewhere.
* SadisticChoice: Adam is forced between choosing staying with ''{{God}}'' in the Garden of Eden or leaving it for good.
* SssssnakeTalk: The Serpent's number, "In Pursuit of Excellence", is carefully designed around this trope.
* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Adam and Eve are afraid Cain will turn out like her, and he does (only worse).
* TrulySingleParent: Father makes Adam and Eve. There's no mention of a 'Mother'.
* VillainSong: 'In Pursuit of Excellence' for the Snake.
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''Children of Eden'' is a retelling of several stories from the Book of Genesis: Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, and Noah's Ark. The show takes liberties with the stories and is more of an allegory about the relationship between parents and children than it is about religion.

The musical play is written by Creator/StephenSchwartz, and the book by John Caird.

Not to be confused with ''ChildOfEden''.

!!This musical provides examples of:

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Basically the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.[[invoked]]
* CainAndAbel: Literally, of course.
* CharacterDevelopment: God, of all people (deities?) goes through the most. He starts out selfish and looking out only for his own interests and seems to have 'children' to glorify himself. He needs obedience and control from his children and his quick to anger and slow to forgive. By the end of the show he has realized that he has to let go of his children and let them live their own lives.
* ChildrenAreInnocent: Father thinks this of Adam and Eve, and thus they need to be controlled.
* CuriosityIsACrapshoot: Eve's curiosity gets her and Adam expelled from the garden of Eden, and certainly brings them and their descendants misery and trouble, but it is also presented as what gave Eve the ability to grow up, make her own choices and live her own life for herself, not only as someone's child. She does not regret what she did.
* ConstantlyCurious: Eve.
-->'''Eve''': Why did you put questions in me?\\
'''Father''': Why did you disobey me?\\
'''Eve''': That's not an answer!
* CutSong: Between the London and Papermill versions 'Shipshape', 'Degenerations', and 'Civilized Society' were cut. 'World Without You' and 'Lost In the Wilderness' were completely rewritten with only the titles and a few words staying the same.
* DarkReprise:
** "Spark of Creation" gets two, one as Eve realizes she has passed the yearning she has to Cain, and doesn't like the look of it, and a second when Noah confesses God doesn't talk to him any more, and Mama Noah must convince Noah to make a choice for himself.
** The Wasteland is reprised as Abel's DeathSong.
** 'Father's Day' is reprised by Adam when he realizes he can either control his children and risk their hatred or let them go.
* DeathSong: Abel's reprise, but also, Children of Eden could be considered Eve's death song.
* DivineParentage: Adam and Eve have the original, of course.
* DotingParent: Father is one, for better or worse.
* ForbiddenFruit: The TropeNamer appears of course, but it is not so much the lure of the forbidden that tempts Eve, but she truly desires the knowledge that it will bring her.
* HappilyMarried: Adam and Eve, and Noah and Mama Noah.
* {{God}}: Or, Father, as he's called.
* IAmSong: 'Spark of Creation' for Eve, 'Lost in the Wildnerness' for Cain 'Stranger To the Rain' for Yonah and 'Father's Day' for Father.
* GospelRevivalNumber: "Ain't It Good"
* GreekChorus: The Storytellers
* ListSong: "The Naming", in which Adam names the animals, and "Generations", one of those big long "begetting" lists from Literature/TheBible done as a fun production number.
* MeaningfulEcho:
** 'Oh Father, please don't make me choose/either way it's more than i can bare to lose' is first said by Adam to Father, when Father tells him to stay in the garden without Eve, or leave with her. It is then said by Abel to Cain, when Cain tells him to come with him, or stay behind as he leaves the garden. The third is in the second act, when Noah cannot choose whether to throw Yonah and Japeth off the boat, or marry them and risk god's wrath.
** 'Here we are, your grateful children' is echoed by Father as 'ungrateful children' a few times, and eventually becomes 'Fare thee well, my precious children.'
** In Children of Eden, Father says "No more questions, daughter Eve. It's time to sleep" twice. The first time is when she's an excited child tiring herself out with curiosity. The second is when she's a grandmother about to die, worrying about the future of her children and humanity.
** 'Father's Day' is echoed by Cain's bitter "Is this what it means to be a father...?" The first time, the tune is innocent and soothing, and the second time, it's bitter and mocking.
** The tune of the titular song crops up first as Father presenting the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve, Eve saying goodbye to all her children in the first act finale, Yonah setting the dove free in the second act, and then by the cast to the audience at the very end of the play, with a different meaning each time.
* OverprotectiveDad: Father, again, but so is Adam.
* RecurringRiff: So, so many. In fact, try to find a melody that ISN'T repeated somewhere.
* SadisticChoice: Adam is forced between choosing staying with ''{{God}}'' in the Garden of Eden or leaving it for good.
* SssssnakeTalk: The Serpent's number, "In Pursuit of Excellence", is carefully designed around this trope.
* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Adam and Eve are afraid Cain will turn out like her, and he does (only worse).
* TrulySingleParent: Father makes Adam and Eve. There's no mention of a 'Mother'.
* VillainSong: 'In Pursuit of Excellence' for the Snake.
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[[redirect:Theatre/ChildrenOfEden]]
9th Jan '13 11:31:05 PM PaulA
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The musical play is written by StephenSchwartz, and the book by John Caird.

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The musical play is written by StephenSchwartz, Creator/StephenSchwartz, and the book by John Caird.
26th Mar '12 2:33:18 PM FreyaCrescent
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Not to be confused with ''ChildOfEden''.
9th Mar '12 10:02:09 AM Telcontar
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* ListSong: "The Naming", in which Adam names the animals, and "Generations", one of those big long "begetting" lists from TheBible done as a fun production number.

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* ListSong: "The Naming", in which Adam names the animals, and "Generations", one of those big long "begetting" lists from TheBible Literature/TheBible done as a fun production number.
29th Feb '12 8:31:10 PM PaulA
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Bascially the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.[[invoked]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Bascially Basically the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.[[invoked]]
29th Feb '12 8:30:32 PM PaulA
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Added DiffLines:

* SssssnakeTalk: The Serpent's number, "In Pursuit of Excellence", is carefully designed around this trope.
29th Feb '12 8:29:28 PM PaulA
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Bascially the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Bascially the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.[[invoked]]



* CharacterDevelopment: God, of all people (deities?) goes through the most. He starts out selfish and looking out only for his own intrests and seems to have 'children' to glorify himself. He needs obidence and control from his children and his quick to anger and slow to forgive. By the end of the show he has realized that he has to let go of his children and let them live their own lives.
* ChildrenAreInnocent: Father thinks this of Adam and Eve, and thus they need to be controled.
* CuriosityIsACrapshoot: Eve's curiosity gets her and Adam expelled from the garden of Eden, and certainly brings them and their descendants misery and trouble, but it is also presented as what gave Eve the ability to grow up, maker her own choices and live her own life for herslef, not only as someone's child. She does not regret what she did.

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* CharacterDevelopment: God, of all people (deities?) goes through the most. He starts out selfish and looking out only for his own intrests interests and seems to have 'children' to glorify himself. He needs obidence obedience and control from his children and his quick to anger and slow to forgive. By the end of the show he has realized that he has to let go of his children and let them live their own lives.
* ChildrenAreInnocent: Father thinks this of Adam and Eve, and thus they need to be controled.
controlled.
* CuriosityIsACrapshoot: Eve's curiosity gets her and Adam expelled from the garden of Eden, and certainly brings them and their descendants misery and trouble, but it is also presented as what gave Eve the ability to grow up, maker make her own choices and live her own life for herslef, herself, not only as someone's child. She does not regret what she did.



--->'''Eve''' 'Why did you put questions in me?'
--->'''Father''' 'Why did you disobey me?'
--->'''Eve''' 'That's not an answer!'
* CutSong: Between the London and Papermill versions 'Shipshape' 'Degenerations' and 'Civilized Society' were cut. 'World Without You' and 'Lost In the Wilderness' were compeltly rewritten with only the titles and a few words staying the same, so its basically two different songs.
* DarkReprise: "Spark of Creation" gets two, one as Eve realizes she has passed the yearning she has to Cain, and doesn't like the look of it, and a second when Noah confesses God doesn't talk to him any more, and Mama Noah must convince Noah to make a choice for himself.

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--->'''Eve''' 'Why -->'''Eve''': Why did you put questions in me?'
--->'''Father''' 'Why
me?\\
'''Father''': Why
did you disobey me?'
--->'''Eve''' 'That's
me?\\
'''Eve''': That's
not an answer!'
answer!
* CutSong: Between the London and Papermill versions 'Shipshape' 'Degenerations' 'Shipshape', 'Degenerations', and 'Civilized Society' were cut. 'World Without You' and 'Lost In the Wilderness' were compeltly completely rewritten with only the titles and a few words staying the same, so its basically two different songs.
same.
* DarkReprise: DarkReprise:
**
"Spark of Creation" gets two, one as Eve realizes she has passed the yearning she has to Cain, and doesn't like the look of it, and a second when Noah confesses God doesn't talk to him any more, and Mama Noah must convince Noah to make a choice for himself.



*** 'Father's Day' is reprised by Adam when he realizes he can either control his children and risk their hatred or let them go.

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*** ** 'Father's Day' is reprised by Adam when he realizes he can either control his children and risk their hatred or let them go. go.



* DivingParentage: Adam and Eve have the original, of course.

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* DivingParentage: DivineParentage: Adam and Eve have the original, of course.



* MeanigfulEcho: 'Oh Father, please don't make me choose/either way it's more than i can bare to lose' is first said by Adam to Father, when Father tells him to stay in the garden without Eve, or leave with her. It is then said by Abel to Cain, when Cain tells him to come with him, or stay behind as he leaves the garden. The third is in the second act, when Noah cannot choose weather to throw Yonah and Japeth off the boat, or marry them and risk god's rath.
** 'Here we are, your greatful children' is echoed by Father as 'ungreatful children' a few times, and eventually becomes 'Fare thee well, my precious children.
** In Children of Eden, Father says "No more questions, daughter Eve. It's time to sleep" twice. The first time is when she's an excited child tiring herself out with curiosity. The second is when she's a grandmother about to die, worrying about the future of her children and humanity

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* MeanigfulEcho: MeaningfulEcho:
**
'Oh Father, please don't make me choose/either way it's more than i can bare to lose' is first said by Adam to Father, when Father tells him to stay in the garden without Eve, or leave with her. It is then said by Abel to Cain, when Cain tells him to come with him, or stay behind as he leaves the garden. The third is in the second act, when Noah cannot choose weather whether to throw Yonah and Japeth off the boat, or marry them and risk god's rath.
wrath.
** 'Here we are, your greatful grateful children' is echoed by Father as 'ungreatful 'ungrateful children' a few times, and eventually becomes 'Fare thee well, my precious children.
children.'
** In Children of Eden, Father says "No more questions, daughter Eve. It's time to sleep" twice. The first time is when she's an excited child tiring herself out with curiosity. The second is when she's a grandmother about to die, worrying about the future of her children and humanityhumanity.



** The tune of the titular song crops up first as Father presenting the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve, Eve saying goodbye to all her children in the first act finale, Yonah setting the dove free in the second act, and then by the cast to the audience at the very end of the play, with a different meaning each time. In case you can't tell, Children of Eden LOVES this trope.

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** The tune of the titular song crops up first as Father presenting the garden of Eden to Adam and Eve, Eve saying goodbye to all her children in the first act finale, Yonah setting the dove free in the second act, and then by the cast to the audience at the very end of the play, with a different meaning each time. In case you can't tell, Children of Eden LOVES this trope.



* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Adam and Eve are afraid Cain will turn out like her,and he does (only worse.)
* TrulySingleParent: Father makes Adam and Eve. There's no mention of a 'Mother'
* VillianSong: 'In Pursuit of Excellence' for the Snake.

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* TurnOutLikeHisFather: Adam and Eve are afraid Cain will turn out like her,and her, and he does (only worse.)
worse).
* TrulySingleParent: Father makes Adam and Eve. There's no mention of a 'Mother'
'Mother'.
* VillianSong: VillainSong: 'In Pursuit of Excellence' for the Snake.
17th Jan '12 7:21:14 AM Myra
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* ConstantlyCurious: Eve.
--->'''Eve''' 'Why did you put questions in me?'
--->'''Father''' 'Why did you disobey me?'
--->'''Eve''' 'That's not an answer!'



* ElephantsChild: Eve.
--->'''Eve''' 'Why did you put questions in me?'
--->'''Father''' 'Why did you disobey me?'
--->'''Eve''' 'That's not an answer!'
18th Jul '11 1:59:04 AM TheDoctorDonna
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Father thinks this of Adam and Eve, and thus they need to be controled.
* CuriosityIsACrapshoot: Eve's curiosity gets her and Adam expelled from the garden of Eden, and certainly brings them and their descendants misery and trouble, but it is also presented as what gave Eve the ability to grow up, maker her own choices and live her own life for herslef, not only as someone's child. She does not regret what she did.


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* DivingParentage: Adam and Eve have the original, of course.
* DotingParent: Father is one, for better or worse.
* ElephantsChild: Eve.
--->'''Eve''' 'Why did you put questions in me?'
--->'''Father''' 'Why did you disobey me?'
--->'''Eve''' 'That's not an answer!'


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* HappilyMarried: Adam and Eve, and Noah and Mama Noah.


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* OverprotectiveDad: Father, again, but so is Adam.


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* TrulySingleParent: Father makes Adam and Eve. There's no mention of a 'Mother'
18th Jul '11 1:41:28 AM TheDoctorDonna
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* AlternateCharecterInterpretation: Bascially the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.

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* AlternateCharecterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Bascially the whole point of the musical. God is not all-knowing and all-loving, but flawed, naive and sometimes even selfish. Eve is not tempted by the devil or meaninglessly rebellious, but a creator looking for knowledge. Cain is not evil, but suffering from the same 'problem' Eve had, and looking for answers no one will give him.
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