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15th Mar '17 2:50:55 PM KizunaTallis
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* In the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series, this is the BackStory of aforementioned Frank Jaeger and [[spoiler:Raiden]]. It turned the former into a badass and the latter into a psychological wreck. To be fair, Frank's a psychological wreck, too.

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* In the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series, this is the BackStory of aforementioned Frank Jaeger (aka Grey Fox) and [[spoiler:Raiden]]. It turned the former into a badass and the latter into a They may have been expert killers, but they were also massive psychological wreck. To be fair, Frank's a psychological wreck, wrecks too.
13th Mar '17 5:26:50 PM Vir
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---> '''Katara:''' I haven't done this since I was a kid!
---> '''Aang:''' You are a kid!

--->'''Zuko:''' You're just a child!
--->'''Aang:''' Well, you're just a teenager.

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---> '''Katara:''' -->'''Katara:''' I haven't done this since I was a kid!
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kid!\\
'''Aang:''' You are a kid!

--->'''Zuko:'''
kid!\\
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'''Zuko:'''
You're just a child!
--->'''Aang:'''
child!\\
'''Aang:'''
Well, you're just a teenager.



--->'''Jules''': But we're just kids!
--->'''Jimmy''': ''[Bleakly]'' War makes you go up fast.

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--->'''Jules''': -->'''Jules''': But we're just kids!
--->'''Jimmy''':
kids!\\
'''Jimmy''':
''[Bleakly]'' War makes you go up fast.



* In the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E25TheCutieRemarkPart1 Season 5]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 finale]] of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', [[DarkerAndEdgier of all shows]], the Crystal Empire BadFuture has foals being recruited for the war against Sombra.

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* In the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E25TheCutieRemarkPart1 Season season 5]] [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 finale]] of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', [[DarkerAndEdgier of all shows]], the Crystal Empire BadFuture has foals being recruited for the war against Sombra.
6th Mar '17 8:51:56 AM Necal
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** Turians are said to have a life cycle similar to humans' but are also known to conscript ''every'' able-bodied young person into the military at only fifteen years of age. The psychological ramifications of subjecting teenagers to military life and warfare en masse are left unexplored (but maybe that explains [[HurtingHero Garrus]] and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Saren]]).

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** Turians are said to have a life cycle similar to humans' but are also known to conscript ''every'' able-bodied young person into the military at only fifteen years of age. The psychological ramifications of subjecting teenagers to military life and warfare en masse are left unexplored (but maybe that explains [[HurtingHero Garrus]] and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Saren]]). Though it is worth noting that not only does outright warfare happen rarely and that the Turians work more like a militarized police for most of the galaxy, its mentioned that Turians are militarized on such a cultural level that prior to their unification the populations of captured cities were moved out of the city itself and into camps because otherwise there would be such rebellion that the city would be effectively burned down by the populace. Conscription of teens who are probably raised to think of it as a rite of passage into the space police is a little different than most child soldiers.
4th Mar '17 8:30:45 AM JackG
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* Averted in ''Blunted Lance'' by Max Hennessy. The elderly Goff mentions that he always discouraged this trope, because underage recruits lacked the staying power and resistance to disease of more mature soldiers.

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* Averted in ''Blunted Lance'' by Max Hennessy.Hennessy (aka John Harris). The elderly Goff mentions that he always discouraged this trope, because underage recruits lacked the staying power and resistance to disease of more mature soldiers.
4th Mar '17 8:30:06 AM JackG
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* Averted in ''Blunted Lance'' by Max Hennessy. The elderly Goff mentions that he always discouraged this trope, because underage recruits lacked the staying power and resistance to disease of more mature soldiers.
4th Mar '17 8:22:53 AM JackG
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* ''Literature/LiveFreeOrDie'' features a group of French kids in occupied Paris, playing at resistance, as they are just not going to be allowed to join the French Resistance. They have collected real weapons (a piecemeal array of old civilian weapons at best) and decided they are good enough to do it for real... when the time comes to liberate the city, [[CurbStompBattle they are all promptly slain]].

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* ''Literature/LiveFreeOrDie'' ''Live Free Or Die'' by John Harris, features a group of French kids in occupied Paris, playing at resistance, as they are just not going to be allowed to join the French Resistance. They have collected real weapons (a piecemeal array of old civilian weapons at best) and decided they are good enough to do it for real... when the time comes to liberate the city, [[CurbStompBattle they are all promptly slain]].
1st Mar '17 11:17:36 AM __Vano
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In fiction, this also has the convenience of explaining why [[PersonOfMassDestruction Persons Of Mass Destruction]] are obeying their weaker bosses and not running things, or at least not demanding wages and better job conditions. It doesn't occur to them; and even if they do rebel, they don't know how to do it properly.

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In fiction, this also has the convenience of explaining why [[PersonOfMassDestruction Persons Of Mass Destruction]] are obeying their weaker bosses and not running things, or at least not demanding wages and better job conditions. It simply doesn't occur to them; and even if they do rebel, they don't know how to do it properly.
1st Mar '17 11:15:39 AM __Vano
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They depend on us to defend them, but we're forcing them to defend us. Sometimes they have a talent to help them get through the war, which unfortunately may be the reason they were drafted to begin with, but often it's just tough luck. While the notion of [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocent childhood]] dates to the early modern era (thank the Victorians and their contemporaries), even the ancients felt fairly queasy about the idea - and with good reason: warfare [[HarmfulToMinors screws with kids' heads]], and they're rarely good for much else afterwards. Since the use of child soldiers forces the enemy to gun down children in self defense, it's a very strong contender for [[MoralEventHorizon the most morally reprehensible war crime in existence]]. On a somewhat lighter side, there are also many stories, in fiction and real life, concerning boys ([[SweetPollyOliver and girls]]) who lied about their ages in order to serve their countries.

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They depend on us to defend them, but we're forcing them to defend us. Sometimes they have a talent to help them get through the war, which unfortunately may be the reason they were drafted to begin with, but often it's just tough luck. While the notion of [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocent childhood]] dates to the early modern era (thank the Victorians and their contemporaries), even the ancients felt fairly queasy about the idea - and with good reason: warfare [[HarmfulToMinors screws with kids' heads]], and they're rarely good for much else afterwards. Since the use of child soldiers forces the enemy to gun down children in self defense, it's a very strong contender for [[MoralEventHorizon the most morally reprehensible war crime in existence]]. On a somewhat lighter side, there are also many stories, in fiction and real life, concerning boys ([[SweetPollyOliver and girls]]) who lied about their ages in order to serve their countries.
country in its hour of need -- but those are only slightly under age, much more mature psychologically.
26th Feb '17 11:56:13 PM shadowbeast
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* The ''Literature/Lockwood&Co'' series is presented as a light adventure version of this trope, so not Plain Tragic, though it would be with a different tone to the writing. The UK is in the grip of a disaster in the form of ghosts appearing, which have a touch which will set a living human inexorably and incurably dying, which will affect everyone while only children can see them. The children sometimes become sensitives, which do not fight but see the ghosts, or agents, which combat the ghosts; washouts from the agent recruitment become night watch, who can do nothing but fend off the ghosts with iron pokers. The larger agencies have well-equipped units of children with the most psionically-talented teens at the front, usually with an adult overseer, leading from behind as it is rare for an adult to retain the ability to see the ghosts. The protagonists are a crew of three.

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* The ''Literature/Lockwood&Co'' ''Literature/LockwoodAndCo'' series is presented as a light adventure version of this trope, so not Plain Tragic, though it would be with a different tone to the writing. The UK is in the grip of a disaster in the form of ghosts appearing, which have a touch which will set a living human inexorably and incurably dying, which will affect everyone while only children can see them. The children sometimes become sensitives, which do not fight but see the ghosts, or agents, which combat the ghosts; washouts from the agent recruitment become night watch, who can do nothing but fend off the ghosts with iron pokers. The larger agencies have well-equipped units of children with the most psionically-talented teens at the front, usually with an adult overseer, leading from behind as it is rare for an adult to retain the ability to see the ghosts. The protagonists are a crew of three.
26th Feb '17 11:54:51 PM shadowbeast
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* The ''Literature/{{Lockwood&Co}}'' series is presented as a light adventure version of this trope, so not Plain Tragic, though it would be with a different tone to the writing. The UK is in the grip of a disaster in the form of ghosts appearing, which have a touch which will set a living human inexorably and incurably dying, which will affect everyone while only children can see them. The children sometimes become sensitives, which do not fight but see the ghosts, or agents, which combat the ghosts; washouts from the agent recruitment become night watch, who can do nothing but fend off the ghosts with iron pokers. The larger agencies have well-equipped units of children with the most psionically-talented teens at the front, usually with an adult overseer, leading from behind as it is rare for an adult to retain the ability to see the ghosts. The protagonists are a crew of three.

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* The ''Literature/{{Lockwood&Co}}'' ''Literature/Lockwood&Co'' series is presented as a light adventure version of this trope, so not Plain Tragic, though it would be with a different tone to the writing. The UK is in the grip of a disaster in the form of ghosts appearing, which have a touch which will set a living human inexorably and incurably dying, which will affect everyone while only children can see them. The children sometimes become sensitives, which do not fight but see the ghosts, or agents, which combat the ghosts; washouts from the agent recruitment become night watch, who can do nothing but fend off the ghosts with iron pokers. The larger agencies have well-equipped units of children with the most psionically-talented teens at the front, usually with an adult overseer, leading from behind as it is rare for an adult to retain the ability to see the ghosts. The protagonists are a crew of three.
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