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10th Oct '17 10:07:38 PM karategal
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite being rather quirky, all of the protagonists except one are members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5, and also have their childhood memories erased by the special equipment they use in combat. Early on, it's made quite clear that inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's orders and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill spoiler:(he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother)]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut, letting key info slip.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite being rather quirky, all of the protagonists except one are members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5, and also have their childhood memories erased by the special equipment they use in combat. Early on, it's made quite clear that inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's orders and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill spoiler:(he's (he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother)]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut, letting key info slip.
10th Oct '17 10:07:03 PM karategal
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite being rather quirky, all of the protagonists except one are members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5, and also have their childhood memories erased by the special equipment they use in combat. Early on, it's made quite clear that inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's order and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill [[spoiler:(he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother)]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut, letting key info slip.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite being rather quirky, all of the protagonists except one are members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5, and also have their childhood memories erased by the special equipment they use in combat. Early on, it's made quite clear that inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's order orders and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill [[spoiler:(he's spoiler:(he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother)]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut, letting key info slip.
10th Oct '17 10:06:01 PM karategal
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* The [=SeeD=] in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' functions as a highly regarded military academy type institution and many students enter voluntarily. Students typically aren't taught in combat until their teens, and don't see actual combat outside of the training room until their graduation. Upon graduation, the SEED sometimes also work side jobs in policing duties and receive a regular salary.

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* The [=SeeD=] in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' functions as a highly regarded military academy type institution and many students enter voluntarily. Students typically aren't taught in combat until their teens, and don't see actual combat outside of the training room until their graduation. Upon graduation, the SEED [=SeeD=] sometimes also work side jobs in policing duties and receive a regular salary.



** However see the below category to see the flip side of this.

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** However However, see the below category to see the flip side of this.



* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite them being rather quirky, all of the protagonists save one are the members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5 who get their childhood memories messed up by the special equipment they use. Early on, it is made quite clear that their inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's order and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill [spoiler:he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut, letting key info slip.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite them being rather quirky, all of the protagonists save except one are the members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5 who get 5, and also have their childhood memories messed up erased by the special equipment they use. use in combat. Early on, it is it's made quite clear that their inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's order and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill [spoiler:he's [[spoiler:(he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother]]; mother)]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut, letting key info slip.]]
29th Sep '17 7:05:31 PM Josef5678
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* Glimpsed in ''The Two Towers'' in ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''.
** Specifically, there is a scene where the soldiers suit up to defend Helm's Deep and we see a number of people being armed are ''very'' young boys needed to up their soldier count. Mercifully, we're never shown the kids doing any actually combat besides throwing stones at the besiegers from the wall.

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* Glimpsed in ''The Two Towers'' in ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''.
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''Film/TheLordOfTheRings''. Specifically, there is a scene where the soldiers suit up to defend Helm's Deep and we see a number of people being armed are ''very'' young boys needed to up their soldier count. Mercifully, we're never shown the kids doing any actually combat besides throwing stones at the besiegers from the wall.
24th Sep '17 9:19:43 AM nombretomado
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* As part of the BattleTechExpandedUniverse, seveal novels mention child mechwarriors: Several 15-16 year olds in the second ''Grey Death'' mercenary's novel are piloting mechs; Later Draconis Combine hero Shin Yodama is mentioned as carrying demolition charges through culverts at the age of 14.

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* As part of the BattleTechExpandedUniverse, Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse, seveal novels mention child mechwarriors: Several 15-16 year olds in the second ''Grey Death'' mercenary's novel are piloting mechs; Later Draconis Combine hero Shin Yodama is mentioned as carrying demolition charges through culverts at the age of 14.
22nd Sep '17 11:04:53 PM Sanokal
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite them being rather quirky, all of the protagonists save one are the members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5 who get their childhood memories messed up by the special equipments they use. Early on, it is made quite clear that their inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler: Seifer breaks the commander's order and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandon her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much a TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' is a {{deconstruction}} of this trope. Despite them being rather quirky, all of the protagonists save one are the members of an elite fighting force trained from the age of 5 who get their childhood memories messed up by the special equipments equipment they use. Early on, it is made quite clear that their inexperience and youthfulness significantly screw up their jobs and lives. [[spoiler: Seifer [[spoiler:Seifer breaks the commander's order and later betrays everybody out of pure ego; Quistis suddenly feels sorry for yelling at Rinoa and abandon abandons her post; Irvine suddenly becomes doubtful of his sniper skill; skill [spoiler:he's actually more caught up over the idea of assassinating his adoptive mother]]; Selphie breaks down crying from the destruction of her old school; and Squall, while the most professional, is pretty much a the TroubledButCute trope incarnated. There's also Zell, who is easily set off by being insulted and who often has trouble keeping his mouth shut.shut, letting key info slip.]]
19th Sep '17 1:28:25 PM EDP
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* ''Literature/{{Sandokan}}'' has an interesting example with Marianna Guillonk: her parents died when she was 10 and she ended in the care of her uncle, a Royal Navy retired captain that was about to embark on a cruise to free the Indian Ocean of pirates, and, unable to not go due the bad timing, he brought Marianna on his ship... And she just learned the military trade by himself. It's implied that lord Guillonk settled down three years later when he realized his beloved niece was now a hardened soldier and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone was appalled at what he had allowed to happen]].
13th Sep '17 7:17:49 PM nombretomado
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* Karin Lowachee milks this trope for all the tragedy it's worth. The main character from ''[[WarchildSeries Warchild]]'' is a child soldier, borderline spy and assassin, even. He's not a very happy or well-adjusted young man. But then he's contrasted with his friend Evan, who in addition to being captured and raised by pirates, is alluded to being a child whore in addition to a soldier. The "good guys," [[GrayAndGrayMorality if you can call them that]], use teenagers as cannon fodder.

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* Karin Lowachee milks this trope for all the tragedy it's worth. The main character from ''[[WarchildSeries ''[[Literature/WarchildSeries Warchild]]'' is a child soldier, borderline spy and assassin, even. He's not a very happy or well-adjusted young man. But then he's contrasted with his friend Evan, who in addition to being captured and raised by pirates, is alluded to being a child whore in addition to a soldier. The "good guys," [[GrayAndGrayMorality if you can call them that]], use teenagers as cannon fodder.
13th Sep '17 3:30:53 PM Arima
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They depend on us to defend them, but we're forcing them to defend us. Sometimes they have a talent to help them get through the war, which unfortunately may be the reason they were drafted to begin with, but often it's just tough luck. While the notion of [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocent childhood]] dates to the early modern era (thank the Victorians and their contemporaries), even the ancients felt fairly queasy about the idea -- and with good reason: warfare [[HarmfulToMinors screws with kids' heads]], and they're rarely good for much else afterwards. Since the use of child soldiers forces the enemy to gun down children in self-defense, it's a very strong contender for [[MoralEventHorizon the most morally reprehensible war crime in existence]]. On a somewhat lighter side, there are also many stories, in fiction and real life, concerning boys ([[SweetPollyOliver and girls]]) who lied about their ages in order to serve their country in its hour of need -- but those are only slightly under age, much more mature psychologically.

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They depend on us to defend them, but either we're forcing them to defend us.us or they're all alone and forced to defend themselves in the face of imminent danger. Sometimes they have a talent to help them get through the war, which unfortunately may be the reason they were drafted to begin with, but often it's just tough luck. While the notion of [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocent childhood]] dates to the early modern era (thank the Victorians and their contemporaries), even the ancients felt fairly queasy about the idea -- and with good reason: warfare [[HarmfulToMinors screws with kids' heads]], and they're rarely good for much else afterwards. Since the use of child soldiers forces the enemy to gun down children in self-defense, it's a very strong contender for [[MoralEventHorizon the most morally reprehensible war crime in existence]]. On a somewhat lighter side, there are also many stories, in fiction and real life, concerning boys ([[SweetPollyOliver and girls]]) who lied about their ages in order to serve their country in its hour of need -- but those are only slightly under age, much more mature psychologically.
11th Sep '17 4:35:14 AM Divra
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* ''WebComic/StandStillStaySilent'' has them in spades. The post-Rash world doesn't allow time for kids to be kids for very long.
** The in-'verse recruiting ad for the Swedish Army Cleanser units mentions that recruits must be over 13 years of age, and that enlisting automatically invalidates any and all life-insurance policies.
** A bit of counting in the BackStory reveals that Onni and Ensi began training Lalli as a scout/sniper/combat mage at age ''eight''.
** In one of Lalli's flashbacks to his adolescence in Keuruu, the VoiceInACan gives an order directed to "All scouts younger than fifteen..."
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