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1st Jan '17 6:36:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/AmericanGothic'': This happened to [[PluckyGirl Gail Emory]]. At the start of the show, while not exactly an ActionGirl, she was certainly a female {{Determinator}} who, as an IntrepidReporter, was determined to find out the truth of her parents' deaths and bring their murderer to justice. But as soon as she learned her parents were not [[BrokenPedestal the paragons of virtue she thought them to be]], her BelatedBackstory was dropped and she seemed to flounder about with nothing to do. By the end of the series, she's morphed almost completely into a DamselInDistress, having to rely on Buck himself for protection, and in her last scene is left in a hospital bed, crying piteously over the baby she's lost--even though she didn't want it in the first place, seeing as it was the son of Satan (as depicted graphically via ultrasound--or maybe not). At least some of this may be due to ExecutiveMeddling in order to pair up the major male and female leads, or a result of the show being ScrewedByTheNetwork so that Shaun Cassidy had to wrap everything up far too quickly and nonsensically. But some surely isn't.

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* ''Series/AmericanGothic'': ''Series/AmericanGothic1995'': This happened to [[PluckyGirl Gail Emory]]. At the start of the show, while not exactly an ActionGirl, she was certainly a female {{Determinator}} who, as an IntrepidReporter, was determined to find out the truth of her parents' deaths and bring their murderer to justice. But as soon as she learned her parents were not [[BrokenPedestal the paragons of virtue she thought them to be]], her BelatedBackstory was dropped and she seemed to flounder about with nothing to do. By the end of the series, she's morphed almost completely into a DamselInDistress, having to rely on Buck himself for protection, and in her last scene is left in a hospital bed, crying piteously over the baby she's lost--even though she didn't want it in the first place, seeing as it was the son of Satan (as depicted graphically via ultrasound--or maybe not). At least some of this may be due to ExecutiveMeddling in order to pair up the major male and female leads, or a result of the show being ScrewedByTheNetwork so that Shaun Cassidy had to wrap everything up far too quickly and nonsensically. But some surely isn't.
26th Dec '16 11:47:55 AM SaraJaye
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** While Princess Sakura of Hoshido ''is'' canonically a ShrinkingViolet and goes through some tough times in ''Conquest'', some fics set after that particular route make her a weepy basket case who passive-aggressively [[AccusationFic hates Corrin]] for both picking Nohr and for the invasion of Hoshido (which Corrin never ''wanted'' in the first place but forced themselves to do [[spoiler:because it was the only way to prove Garon was NotHimself anymore]]) and wallows in despair and [=PTSD=] angst, usually so whoever the writer ships her with can pick her up and make it all better. Or, in one case, making Sakura ''[[DrivenToSuicide kill herself]]'' over all that happened. This contradicts the fact that Sakura is actually [[SilkHidingSteel much stronger than she appears]] and deals with her low self-esteem and traumas by working extra hard and trying her best to take care of people rather than weeping and whining.

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** While Princess Sakura of Hoshido ''is'' canonically a ShrinkingViolet and goes through some tough times in ''Conquest'', some fics set after that particular route make her a weepy basket case who passive-aggressively [[AccusationFic hates Corrin]] for both picking Nohr and for the invasion of Hoshido (which Corrin never ''wanted'' in the first place but forced themselves to do [[spoiler:because it was the only way to prove Garon was NotHimself anymore]]) and wallows in despair and [=PTSD=] angst, usually so whoever the writer ships her with can pick her up and make it all better. Or, in one case, making Sakura ''[[DrivenToSuicide kill herself]]'' over all that happened. In addition, some fic pairing her with Leo portrays her as more fragile than she really is so Leo can play her manly rescuer (likely due to the fact that he ''did'' technically save her from Zola in ''Revelation'' but it had more to do with his hatred for Zola rather than the need to protect Sakura). This contradicts the fact that Sakura is actually [[SilkHidingSteel much stronger than she appears]] and deals with her low self-esteem and traumas by working extra hard and trying her best to take care of people rather than weeping and whining.
23rd Dec '16 4:40:23 PM Gosicrystal
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* In a LostForever series of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' comics focusing on [[spoiler: [[BadFuture the canon bad timeline]] that the {{kid|FromTheFuture}}s come from]], '''all''' the first generation women who showed up were chickified:

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* In a LostForever lost forever series of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' comics focusing on [[spoiler: [[BadFuture the canon bad timeline]] that the {{kid|FromTheFuture}}s come from]], '''all''' the first generation women who showed up were chickified:
18th Dec '16 2:06:04 PM Wowowow
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* In ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', Padme Amidala is a tough ActionGirl who leads a charge on her own palace. By ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' she's a sit-at-home damsel who breaks down when she finds out her LoveInterest is now evil. And then she just "loses the will to live" after giving birth, forgetting her responsibilities as a mother.
21st Nov '16 1:49:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''{{Series/Merlin}}'''s Guinevere in the BBC version. She kicks some serious ass for the first season, teaching Merlin how to put Arthur's armour on properly, going into battle to defend Ealdor, facing her own execution bravely; but the moment Arthur notices in season two that he might just fancy her, she gets kidnapped and can do nothing but trip over her own feet and foul up two attempts to rescue her. She does get her [[BadassNormal normal badassery]] back in Series 3.

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* ''{{Series/Merlin}}'''s ''{{Series/Merlin 2008}}'''s Guinevere in the BBC version. She kicks some serious ass for the first season, teaching Merlin how to put Arthur's armour on properly, going into battle to defend Ealdor, facing her own execution bravely; but the moment Arthur notices in season two that he might just fancy her, she gets kidnapped and can do nothing but trip over her own feet and foul up two attempts to rescue her. She does get her [[BadassNormal normal badassery]] back in Series 3.
19th Nov '16 5:58:59 PM SaraJaye
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*** This is happening more often to Camilla in general lately, with fics subjecting her to life-threatening injuries or harrowing childbirth scenarios for the sake of CollateralAngst for her love interests or family members. These fics ignore that Camilla is ''very'' sturdily built; while an ActionGirl is in no way immune to injuries and her class does leave her vulnerable to archers or wrymslayers, and she does faint after the army thoroughly kicks her butt in Chapter 23 of Birthright, some of the fics would have you believe she's made of tissue paper. As for childbirth, the idea that she'd be in danger from it is contradicted by her tall, strong build.

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*** This is happening more often to Camilla in general lately, with fics subjecting her to life-threatening injuries or harrowing childbirth scenarios for the sake of CollateralAngst for her love interests or family members. These fics ignore that members, or making her into a weepy mess for her love interests to comfort. While Camilla is ''very'' sturdily built; ''is'' canonically a BrokenBird and did sink into a deep depression over the Avatar choosing Hoshido in ''Birthright'', she's far from the emotionally frail wreck some of these fics make her out to be. And while an ActionGirl is in no way immune ''is'' likely to injuries and her class does leave her vulnerable to archers or wrymslayers, and she does faint after the army thoroughly kicks her butt in Chapter 23 of Birthright, have some of the fics would have you believe battle wounds, she's also one of the biggest, strongest women in the army and is far from made of tissue paper. As for childbirth, the idea that she'd be in danger from it is contradicted by her tall, strong build.paper.
17th Nov '16 3:02:56 PM SaraJaye
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*** This is happening more often to Camilla in general lately, with fics subjecting her to life-threatening injuries or harrowing childbirth scenarios for the sake of CollateralAngst for her love interests or family members.

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*** This is happening more often to Camilla in general lately, with fics subjecting her to life-threatening injuries or harrowing childbirth scenarios for the sake of CollateralAngst for her love interests or family members. These fics ignore that Camilla is ''very'' sturdily built; while an ActionGirl is in no way immune to injuries and her class does leave her vulnerable to archers or wrymslayers, and she does faint after the army thoroughly kicks her butt in Chapter 23 of Birthright, some of the fics would have you believe she's made of tissue paper. As for childbirth, the idea that she'd be in danger from it is contradicted by her tall, strong build.
17th Nov '16 2:27:28 PM SaraJaye
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*** This is happening more often to Camilla in general lately, with fics subjecting her to life-threatening injuries or harrowing childbirth scenarios for the sake of CollateralAngst for her love interests or family members.
9th Nov '16 1:01:07 PM DustSnitch
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** Some fans think this happened to Sarah Jane in ''Series/DoctorWho'' for CastSpeciation reasons. While the companion of the Third Doctor, she was intended as a tough feminist career girl who saw herself as the Doctor's equal (or even superior) no matter how condescending he was to her, and her relationship with him was quite prickly, serving as TheLancer. The Third Doctor had been nearing the end of his tenure around the time of her introduction, and the original plan was to regenerate him into a physically feeble but mentally formidable old man character; so a male companion, Harry, was introduced to serve as a NerdActionHero character and fight for the Doctor when required. However, the decision was instead made to cast a young, strong man as the Fourth Doctor, who was more than capable of doing the action scenes intended for Harry, and so to rebalance the dynamic Harry took over the role of TheLancer and Sarah Jane was relegated to DamselInDistress. This also coincided with her relationship with the Doctor taking on a romantic tinge - her relationship with the Third Doctor had felt paternal due to the big physical age gap and the power dynamic, but her relationship with the Fourth Doctor, who [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld looked younger]] and saw himself as equal to her, oozed UnresolvedSexualTension to ImpliedLoveInterest levels. Once Harry left and Sarah Jane was the sole companion, she returned closer to her original characterisation again, finding a kind of middle ground of {{Badass}} and added romantic dimension (not to mention respectful treatment from her Doctor) that many fans feel is the most entertaining version of her character.

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** Some fans think this happened to Sarah Jane in ''Series/DoctorWho'' for CastSpeciation reasons. While the companion of the Third Doctor, she was intended as a tough feminist career girl who saw herself as the Doctor's equal (or even superior) no matter how condescending he was to her, and her relationship with him was quite prickly, serving as TheLancer. The Third Doctor had been nearing the end of his tenure around the time of her introduction, and the original plan was to regenerate him into a physically feeble but mentally formidable old man character; so a male companion, Harry, was introduced to serve as a NerdActionHero character and fight for the Doctor when required. However, the decision was instead made to cast a young, strong man as the Fourth Doctor, who was more than capable of doing the action scenes intended for Harry, and so to rebalance the dynamic Harry took over the role of TheLancer and Sarah Jane was relegated to DamselInDistress. This also coincided with her relationship with the Doctor taking on a romantic tinge - her relationship with the Third Doctor had felt paternal due to the big physical age gap and the power dynamic, but her relationship with the Fourth Doctor, who [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld looked younger]] and saw himself as equal to her, oozed UnresolvedSexualTension to ImpliedLoveInterest levels. Once Harry left and Sarah Jane was the sole companion, she returned closer to her original characterisation again, finding a kind of middle ground of {{Badass}} badass and added romantic dimension (not to mention respectful treatment from her Doctor) that many fans feel is the most entertaining version of her character.



** Chloe Valens from ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'' has to be rescued by Senel from drowning ([[SuperDrowningSkills since she can't swim]]), and struggles with her growing feelings for him throughout the game. At the same time, she defeats Senel in single combat, is a KnightInShiningArmor who subverts HonorBeforeReason when it matters most, and doesn't take revenge when she had every reason to do so. Though she may so "female" emotions, Chloe is an example of this trope [[TropesAreTools done well]], as she is no less of a {{Badass}} at the end of the game than she was at the beginning.

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** Chloe Valens from ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'' has to be rescued by Senel from drowning ([[SuperDrowningSkills since she can't swim]]), and struggles with her growing feelings for him throughout the game. At the same time, she defeats Senel in single combat, is a KnightInShiningArmor who subverts HonorBeforeReason when it matters most, and doesn't take revenge when she had every reason to do so. Though she may so "female" emotions, Chloe is an example of this trope [[TropesAreTools done well]], as she is no less of a {{Badass}} badass at the end of the game than she was at the beginning.
2nd Nov '16 5:44:34 PM SaraJaye
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** While Princess Sakura of Hoshido ''is'' canonically a ShrinkingViolet and goes through some tough times in ''Conquest'', some fics set after that particular route make her a weepy basket case who passive-aggressively [[AccusationFic hates Corrin]] for both picking Nohr and for the invasion of Hoshido (which Corrin never ''wanted'' in the first place but forced themselves to do [[spoiler:because it was the only way to prove Garon was NotHimself anymore]]) and wallows in despair and [=PTSD=] angst, usually so whoever the writer ships her with can pick her up and make it all better. This contradicts the fact that Sakura is actually [[SilkHidingSteel much stronger than she appears]]; at the end of the route she seems to be on the road to recovery from her ordeal, ''Birthright'' has her shooting at Iago to distract him so Azura can snap Takumi out of his second brainwashing, ''Revelation'' has her rushing in to stop Saizo from blowing himself up to kill Corrin and her supports show that she's determined to take care of others and improve herself (risking her life to heal Saizo, her determination to save people no matter how much she can't stand seeing carnage and pain in her supports with Jakob and Leo, forcing herself to approach the seemingly intimidating Xander so she can overcome her shyness, training with Hinata so she can handle battles better, smacking Azama when she gets tired of his blunt words and teasing).

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** While Princess Sakura of Hoshido ''is'' canonically a ShrinkingViolet and goes through some tough times in ''Conquest'', some fics set after that particular route make her a weepy basket case who passive-aggressively [[AccusationFic hates Corrin]] for both picking Nohr and for the invasion of Hoshido (which Corrin never ''wanted'' in the first place but forced themselves to do [[spoiler:because it was the only way to prove Garon was NotHimself anymore]]) and wallows in despair and [=PTSD=] angst, usually so whoever the writer ships her with can pick her up and make it all better. Or, in one case, making Sakura ''[[DrivenToSuicide kill herself]]'' over all that happened. This contradicts the fact that Sakura is actually [[SilkHidingSteel much stronger than she appears]]; at the end of the route she seems to be on the road to recovery from appears]] and deals with her ordeal, ''Birthright'' has low self-esteem and traumas by working extra hard and trying her shooting at Iago to distract him so Azura can snap Takumi out of his second brainwashing, ''Revelation'' has her rushing in to stop Saizo from blowing himself up to kill Corrin and her supports show that she's determined best to take care of others and improve herself (risking her life to heal Saizo, her determination to save people no matter how much she can't stand seeing carnage rather than weeping and pain in her supports with Jakob and Leo, forcing herself to approach the seemingly intimidating Xander so she can overcome her shyness, training with Hinata so she can handle battles better, smacking Azama when she gets tired of his blunt words and teasing).whining.
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