History Main / CharlesManson

12th Aug '13 1:28:53 PM LordGro
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->"[[MemeticMutation Do you feel blame? Are you mad? Uh, do you feel like]] [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext wolf kabob Roth vantage?]] [[TheUnintelligible Gefrannis booj pooch boo jujube; bear-ramage. Jigiji geeji geeja geeble Google. Begep flagaggle vaggle veditch-waggle bagga?]]"
--> '''Charles Manson,''' at his most normal

In 1968, Charles Manson, a man who had spent half his life to date in prison and lived in a hippie commune, listened to Franchise/TheBeatles' ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. He [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory heard hidden messages]] on the album (or claimed to, at any rate) about a racial tension-inspired war that would break out the following year, and got along with his mates, from then on known as the "Manson Family", to provoke said war - by committing several brutal murders (including RomanPolanski's pregnant wife Sharon Tate) marked by "Helter Skelter" (a song on the White Album) [[CouldntFindAPen written in]] [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]] on the walls. He was arrested on December 1969, and three years later his death penalty was commuted to a life sentence. He has remained in prison since then (largely in solitary confinement, for his own safety).

Unrelated to [[{{Garbage}} Shirley Manson]], but MarilynManson's StageName is based on him.
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!Tropes related to Charles Manson include:

* AbusiveParents: His mother was an alcoholic who once tried to trade him for a pitcher of beer. When he was a toddler.
* AxCrazy: And how!
* AffablyEvil: Some people don't see him as a murderer, they see him as [[MisaimedFandom a hero, and an environmental guru]].
** FauxAffablyEvil
* BadassBeard
** BeardOfEvil
* CloudCuckooLander: Just look at any of his interviews. He also tried to compensate his absence in a parole hearing with a ''[[TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}} literal]]'' GetOutOfJailFreeCard. Not to mention he tends to speak gibberish. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation He could just be acting, or at least exaggerating, to mock his captor and / or play up his image though.]]
-->'''Charlie:''' ''"I don't need to kill anyone... I THINK IT. I don't need to exist in this physical world!"''
* ConspiracyTheorist
* FalseFlagOperation: The whole goal of the murders committed by the Manson family were intended to start a race war between the black and white people of the country. Their idea of how to plant "convincing" evidence that the murders of wealthy white victims had been done by black militants included writing in blood on the walls and making a small paw print, referring to the Black Panthers (there are some reports they also left watermelon rinds in the sink but it is hard to verify, so it might be a rumor). Manson and his gang were arrested, tried and convicted, their clumsy attempt at a false flag horrifying many, but fooling nobody.
* GoshDangItToHeck: Called Ted Bundy a "poop-butt" after he was executed.
* GreenAesop: His song "Garbage Dump".
* HeAlsoDid: He composed many songs, recorded by among other Music/GunsNRoses, [[RobZombie White Zombie]] and (of course) MarilynManson.
* IceCreamKoan: Likes to write his songs in the form of these. Oh, and he talks in the form of these, too.
* InsaneTrollLogic: How he jumped to the conclusion that the white album was about an upcoming racial civil war.
* ItAmusedMe: Some of his behavior in captivity.
* LargeHam
* LaughablyEvil
* LoonyFan: Of Music/TheBeatles.
* MadArtist
* ManipulativeBastard
* NeverMyFault: He has never admitted guilt for the murders and believes that it was society's fault. Or ''says'' he believes it, anyway.
* ObfuscatingInsanity: It is unclear how much of what he does is this trope.
* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: And how! He wanted to start a race war which the black people would somehow win despite being in a minority. He then believed that the black people wouldn't be able to hold together a goverment so he could come in as MightyWhitey and rule over them.
* ReferentialMania
* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic: His songs are surprisingly mellow for a convicted man.
* SerialKiller: Well, sort of. He never actually killed anyone himself (that we know of), but he did arrange for people to be murdered. His followers definitely qualify and Manson is ultimately responsible for what they did.
* TheSociopath
* TheSvengali

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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Charles_Manson_7314.jpeg]]
[[caption-width-right:350:''Ya dig?'']]


->"[[MemeticMutation Do you feel blame? Are you mad? Uh, do you feel like]] [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext wolf kabob Roth vantage?]] [[TheUnintelligible Gefrannis booj pooch boo jujube; bear-ramage. Jigiji geeji geeja geeble Google. Begep flagaggle vaggle veditch-waggle bagga?]]"
--> '''Charles Manson,''' at his most normal

In 1968, Charles Manson, a man who had spent half his life to date in prison and lived in a hippie commune, listened to Franchise/TheBeatles' ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. He [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory heard hidden messages]] on the album (or claimed to, at any rate) about a racial tension-inspired war that would break out the following year, and got along with his mates, from then on known as the "Manson Family", to provoke said war - by committing several brutal murders (including RomanPolanski's pregnant wife Sharon Tate) marked by "Helter Skelter" (a song on the White Album) [[CouldntFindAPen written in]] [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]] on the walls. He was arrested on December 1969, and three years later his death penalty was commuted to a life sentence. He has remained in prison since then (largely in solitary confinement, for his own safety).

Unrelated to [[{{Garbage}} Shirley Manson]], but MarilynManson's StageName is based on him.
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!Tropes related to Charles Manson include:

* AbusiveParents: His mother was an alcoholic who once tried to trade him for a pitcher of beer. When he was a toddler.
* AxCrazy: And how!
* AffablyEvil: Some people don't see him as a murderer, they see him as [[MisaimedFandom a hero, and an environmental guru]].
** FauxAffablyEvil
* BadassBeard
** BeardOfEvil
* CloudCuckooLander: Just look at any of his interviews. He also tried to compensate his absence in a parole hearing with a ''[[TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}} literal]]'' GetOutOfJailFreeCard. Not to mention he tends to speak gibberish. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation He could just be acting, or at least exaggerating, to mock his captor and / or play up his image though.]]
-->'''Charlie:''' ''"I don't need to kill anyone... I THINK IT. I don't need to exist in this physical world!"''
* ConspiracyTheorist
* FalseFlagOperation: The whole goal of the murders committed by the Manson family were intended to start a race war between the black and white people of the country. Their idea of how to plant "convincing" evidence that the murders of wealthy white victims had been done by black militants included writing in blood on the walls and making a small paw print, referring to the Black Panthers (there are some reports they also left watermelon rinds in the sink but it is hard to verify, so it might be a rumor). Manson and his gang were arrested, tried and convicted, their clumsy attempt at a false flag horrifying many, but fooling nobody.
* GoshDangItToHeck: Called Ted Bundy a "poop-butt" after he was executed.
* GreenAesop: His song "Garbage Dump".
* HeAlsoDid: He composed many songs, recorded by among other Music/GunsNRoses, [[RobZombie White Zombie]] and (of course) MarilynManson.
* IceCreamKoan: Likes to write his songs in the form of these. Oh, and he talks in the form of these, too.
* InsaneTrollLogic: How he jumped to the conclusion that the white album was about an upcoming racial civil war.
* ItAmusedMe: Some of his behavior in captivity.
* LargeHam
* LaughablyEvil
* LoonyFan: Of Music/TheBeatles.
* MadArtist
* ManipulativeBastard
* NeverMyFault: He has never admitted guilt for the murders and believes that it was society's fault. Or ''says'' he believes it, anyway.
* ObfuscatingInsanity: It is unclear how much of what he does is this trope.
* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: And how! He wanted to start a race war which the black people would somehow win despite being in a minority. He then believed that the black people wouldn't be able to hold together a goverment so he could come in as MightyWhitey and rule over them.
* ReferentialMania
* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic: His songs are surprisingly mellow for a convicted man.
* SerialKiller: Well, sort of. He never actually killed anyone himself (that we know of), but he did arrange for people to be murdered. His followers definitely qualify and Manson is ultimately responsible for what they did.
* TheSociopath
* TheSvengali

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1st Aug '13 8:51:14 PM jormis29
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* FalseFlagOperation: The whole goal of the murders committed by the Manson family were intended to start a race war between the black and white people of the country. Their idea of how to plant "convincing" evidence that the murders of wealthy white victims had been done by black militants included writing in blood on the walls and making a small paw print, referring to the Black Panthers (there are some reports they also left watermelon rinds in the sink but it is hard to verify, so it might be a rumor). Manson and his gang were arrested, tried and convicted, their clumsy attempt at a false flag horrifying many, but fooling nobody.
31st Jul '13 6:13:17 PM jormis29
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: And how! He wanted to start a race war which the black people would somehow win despite being in a minority. He then believed that the black people wouldn't be able to hold together a goverment so he could come in as MightyWhitey and rule over them.
17th Jun '13 12:13:32 AM Discontent
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* ObsfucatingInsanity: It is unclear how much of what he does is this trope.

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26th May '13 3:22:42 PM anty21
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* InsaneTrollLogic: How he jumped to the conclusion that the white album was about an upcoming racial civil war.
25th May '13 11:39:18 PM TitaniumDragon
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* ItAmusedMe: Some of his behavior in captivity.


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* ObsfucatingInsanity: It is unclear how much of what he does is this trope.
10th Mar '13 8:51:21 AM Roy
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** FauxAffablyEvil
6th Mar '13 9:28:26 AM DynamicDragon
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In 1968, Charles Manson, a man who had spent half his life to date in prison and lived in a hippie commune, listened to Music/TheBeatles' ''TheWhiteAlbum''. He [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory heard hidden messages]] on the album (or claimed to, at any rate) about a racial tension-inspired war that would break out the following year, and got along with his mates, from then on known as the "Manson Family", to provoke said war - by committing several brutal murders (including RomanPolanski's pregnant wife Sharon Tate) marked by "Helter Skelter" (a song on the White Album) [[CouldntFindAPen written in]] [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]] on the walls. He was arrested on December 1969, and three years later his death penalty was commuted to a life sentence. He has remained in prison since then (largely in solitary confinement, for his own safety).

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In 1968, Charles Manson, a man who had spent half his life to date in prison and lived in a hippie commune, listened to Music/TheBeatles' ''TheWhiteAlbum''.Franchise/TheBeatles' ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum''. He [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory heard hidden messages]] on the album (or claimed to, at any rate) about a racial tension-inspired war that would break out the following year, and got along with his mates, from then on known as the "Manson Family", to provoke said war - by committing several brutal murders (including RomanPolanski's pregnant wife Sharon Tate) marked by "Helter Skelter" (a song on the White Album) [[CouldntFindAPen written in]] [[ThePowerOfBlood blood]] on the walls. He was arrested on December 1969, and three years later his death penalty was commuted to a life sentence. He has remained in prison since then (largely in solitary confinement, for his own safety).
4th Feb '13 3:42:52 PM DynamicDragon
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* CloudCuckooLander: Just look at any of his interviews. He also tried to compensate his absence in a parole hearing with a ''[[TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}} literal]]'' GetOutOfJailFreeCard. Not to mention he tends to speak gibberish. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation He could just be acting, or at least exaggerating, to mock his captor and / or play up his image though.]]

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* CloudCuckooLander: Just look at any of his interviews. He also tried to compensate his absence in a parole hearing with a ''[[TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}} literal]]'' GetOutOfJailFreeCard. Not to mention he tends to speak gibberish. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation He could just be acting, or at least exaggerating, to mock his captor and / or play up his image though.]]
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