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17th Sep '16 6:57:10 PM SilverDollar
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* ''ComicStrip/USAcres'' early 1986, Roy wasn't quite the {{Jerkass}} he'd become later on. In fact, he was similar to his animated counterpart. The character traits he's known for (ThePrankster) were present but weren't yet a core aspect of his character. The cast expanded in the strip, and his traits were Flanderized to keep him interesting.
15th Sep '16 10:10:31 AM Lullabee
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* Literature/{{Discworld}}: In his first few appearances, (''The Colour Of Magic'', ''Sourcery'') The Patrician of Ankh-Morpork was portrayed as an obese Bond Villain parody. However, by ''Guards! Guards!'', he magically transforms into the ''thin'', enigmatic, [[ManipulativeBastard supremely manipulative]] MagnificentBastard that we know today. (And no, it's not a different Patrician. WordOfGod states that it's the same guy, just written by an author who hadn't figured out what he wanted to do with the character yet.) The British Sky 1 television adaptation of ''The Colour of Magic'' and ''The Light Fantastic'' rectifies this by casting Jeremy Irons as the Patrician as seen in the later books, complete with the tiny little dog mentioned in some of those novels.

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* Literature/{{Discworld}}: In his first few appearances, (''The appearance, in ''The Colour Of Magic'', ''Sourcery'') The the Patrician of Ankh-Morpork was portrayed as an obese Bond Villain parody. In ''Sourcery'', he's still got the Bond villain thing going on, but is remarkably skinny all of a sudden but not remarkably clever. However, by ''Guards! Guards!'', he magically transforms into he's become the ''thin'', enigmatic, [[ManipulativeBastard supremely manipulative]] MagnificentBastard that we know today. (And no, it's not a different Patrician. WordOfGod states that it's the same guy, just written by an author who hadn't figured out what he wanted to do with the character yet.) The British Sky 1 television adaptation of ''The Colour of Magic'' and ''The Light Fantastic'' rectifies this by casting Jeremy Irons as the Patrician as seen in the later books, complete with the tiny little dog mentioned in some of those novels.
9th Sep '16 12:03:32 PM Kytseo
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Blazblue}}, Ragna was far more belligerent and unheroic in the original Calamity Trigger than later on. Notably, the pre-release short stories for CT showed he murdered indiscriminately. After ''Continuum Shift'' however, his more common traits began to show, to the point of that ''Continuum Shift's'' retelling of Calamity Trigger retconned his initial acts of violence and personality.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Blazblue}}, ''VideoGame/{{Blazblue}}'', Ragna was far more belligerent and unheroic in the original Calamity Trigger than later on. Notably, the pre-release short stories for CT showed he murdered indiscriminately. After ''Continuum Shift'' however, his more common traits began to show, to the point of that ''Continuum Shift's'' retelling of Calamity Trigger retconned his initial acts of violence and personality.
9th Sep '16 12:02:48 PM Kytseo
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Blazblue}}, Ragna was far more belligerent and unheroic in the original Calamity Trigger than later on. Notably, the pre-release short stories for CT showed he murdered indiscriminately. After ''Continuum Shift'' however, his more common traits began to show, to the point of that ''Continuum Shift's'' retelling of Calamity Trigger retconned his initial acts of violence and personality.
26th Aug '16 6:05:59 PM Gosicrystal
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* Luigi of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' was originally a just a palette swap of his older brother, Mario. The early ''Mario Bros.'' anime and other promotional art depicted him as taller and thinner than Mario early on, but this depiction would take until the US version of ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to show up in the actual games. He also gained divergent gameplay traits in both, ''[=SMB2=]'' and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels The Lost Levels]]'', jumping higher and, in the Japanese game, having less traction while stopping.
** Additionally, the CowardlyLion traits and fear of ghosts first displayed in ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'' also stuck through later games, going a long way to distinguish his personality along with his physical characteristics. Later games (especially the ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series) would have quite a bit of fun with this.
** Many of Luigi's distinctive character traits came from Western sources like ''Series/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow'' and were eventually introduced into the games, in a rare example of Mario canon [[AscendedFanon embracing rather than contradicting fanon.]] Even the character's voice has gradually come to sound more like his cartoon counterpart.
** Minor note, but this can be fairly inconsistent. It's interesting to listen to the openings to battles in the ''Mario and Luigi'' games-- it's always "Here we go" and "Okie-dokie", but the tone of the latter (Luigi's line) changes over the three games, and goes from fairly-reluctant to... well, pretty confident. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bighor6Lclo The scene where Luigi joins the party]] in ''Super Paper Mario'' is also worth mentioning.
** Mario was presented as more of a JerkAss and an AntiHero in his pre-''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' titles, often being an obvious animal abuser in ''Franchise/DonkeyKong'' titles. He shows mild signs of this personality in later games, which makes it a common AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but for the most part he's TheHero.

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'':
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Luigi of ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' was originally a just a palette swap of his older brother, Mario. The early ''Mario Bros.'' anime and other promotional art depicted him as taller and thinner than Mario early on, but this depiction would take until the US version of ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' to show up in the actual games. He also gained divergent gameplay traits in both, ''[=SMB2=]'' and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels The Lost Levels]]'', jumping higher and, in the Japanese game, having less traction while stopping.
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stopping.\\\
Additionally, the CowardlyLion traits and fear of ghosts first displayed in ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'' also stuck through later games, going a long way to distinguish his personality along with his physical characteristics. Later games (especially the ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series) would have quite a bit of fun with this.
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this.\\\
Many of Luigi's distinctive character traits came from Western sources like ''Series/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow'' and were eventually introduced into the games, in a rare example of Mario canon [[AscendedFanon embracing rather than contradicting fanon.]] Even the character's voice has gradually come to sound more like his cartoon counterpart.
** Minor note, but this can be fairly inconsistent.
counterpart.\\\
It's interesting to listen to the openings to battles in the ''Mario and Luigi'' games-- it's always "Here we go" and "Okie-dokie", but the tone of the latter (Luigi's line) changes over the three games, and goes from fairly-reluctant to... well, pretty confident. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bighor6Lclo The scene where Luigi joins the party]] in ''Super Paper Mario'' is also worth mentioning.
** Mario was presented as more of a JerkAss {{Jerkass}} and an AntiHero in his pre-''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' titles, often being an obvious animal abuser in ''Franchise/DonkeyKong'' titles. He shows mild signs of this personality in later games, which makes it a common AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but for the most part he's TheHero.



** And, of course, [[DastardlyWhiplash Waluigi]]. In his first appearance he had little personality beyond being Luigi´s angry and rude rival who wants to beat him in any competition. Some time later, we have this [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} comical and lunatic]] [[TheTrickster Trickster]] who wants to ruin the days of everyone else and wants to take over the world( you can expect him to [[HarmlessVillain fail hilariously]] ) because he wants things to go right for him at least once. It´s kinda amazing how a simple SatelliteCharacter can evolve into something much deeper (and funnier).
*** Conversely, Waluigi was somewhat ''scary'' in his original appearance in ''VideoGame/MarioTennis''. Note his [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/c/c0/Eviluig.PNG/180px-Eviluig.PNG glowing eyes]]. While the glowing eyes did make a brief reappearance in ''GameAndWatchGallery 4'', Waluigi's scary side was dropped to make him a [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain comic relief villain]].

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** And, of course, [[DastardlyWhiplash Waluigi]]. In his first appearance he had little personality beyond being Luigi´s angry and rude rival who wants to beat him in any competition. Some time later, we have this [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} comical and lunatic]] [[TheTrickster Trickster]] who wants to ruin the days of everyone else and wants to take over the world( you can expect him to [[HarmlessVillain fail hilariously]] ) because he wants things to go right for him at least once. It´s kinda amazing how a simple SatelliteCharacter can evolve into something much deeper (and funnier).
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funnier).\\\
Conversely, Waluigi was somewhat ''scary'' in his original appearance in ''VideoGame/MarioTennis''. Note his [[http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/c/c0/Eviluig.PNG/180px-Eviluig.PNG glowing eyes]]. While the glowing eyes did make a brief reappearance in ''GameAndWatchGallery 4'', Waluigi's scary side was dropped to make him a [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain comic relief villain]].



** In the Wii game, Kid Quick was probably ''going'' to be this... but his [[CampGay new characterization]] got so out of hand that the developers just called him a new character, Disco Kid.

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** In the Wii game, Kid Quick was probably ''going'' to be this... but his [[CampGay new characterization]] got so out of hand that the developers just called him a new character, Disco Kid. %%Needs better indentation.



*** This characterization itself has become disposed of as Knuckles became more comical and jovial once again in later games. All the games usually have him smug about getting one over [[TheRival Sonic]]. Since the majority of his role in ''Sonic 3'' revolved around him torturing and hindering Sonic this attitude seems more consistent.

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*** This :: :This characterization itself has become disposed of as Knuckles became more comical and jovial once again in later games. All the games usually have him smug about getting one over [[TheRival Sonic]]. Since the majority of his role in ''Sonic 3'' revolved around him torturing and hindering Sonic this attitude seems more consistent.



* In the first ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' game, Kirby lacks the [[PowerCopying power absorbing ability]] which would later become his most well-known characteristic. Not to mention in the box art he was white rather than pink.

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* ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'':
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In the first ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' game, Kirby lacks the [[PowerCopying power absorbing ability]] which would later become his most well-known characteristic. Not to mention in the box art he was white rather than pink.



* [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Zant]] was portrayed in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'' as a stoic, almost menacing figure whose facade only broke when he was on the verge of defeat. In ''HyruleWarriors'', his PsychopathicManchild traits are more prominent and he's more prone to bouts of histronics and hysteria, though he still retains his moments of smartness. The end result is that he comes off as more eccentric than normal.
** To be fair, this may just be because, in the context of ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'', Zant is no more the main antagonist, but one of Ganondorf's second in command, sharing his spotlight with Girahim, it's harder to be frighten by the man when you keep the child-like mood swing and anger tamtrum, but remove the creepy music, the build-up and the army backing him up, and then [[OvershadowedbyAwesome put him in a game where Ganondorf is one of the playable character.]]. Context is mostly what made Zant menacing.
* Compare and contrast the way the characters are in ''VideoGame/{{Harvest Moon 64}}'' to how they are in games ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonBackToNature'' and afterwards. Karen, for example, was a cold woman until you [[DefrostingTheIceQueen befriend]] or court her who wanted to leave the small town she was raised in for the city. In future games she works at a grocery store instead of a bar, loses all of her attitude, and becomes a CoolBigSis.
** Even ''Back to Nature'' to ''Friends of Mineral Town'' has this, to a far lesser degree. Kai was a JerkAss who intentionally bugged Rick but in later games Rick is just an overprotective brother towards Popuri and Kai is a NiceGuy.

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* [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Zant]] Zant was portrayed in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'' ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' as a stoic, almost menacing figure whose facade only broke when he was on the verge of defeat. In ''HyruleWarriors'', his PsychopathicManchild traits are more prominent and he's more prone to bouts of histronics and hysteria, though he still retains his moments of smartness. The end result is that he comes off as more eccentric than normal.
** To be fair, this
normal. This may just be because, in the context of ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'', Zant is no more the main antagonist, but one of Ganondorf's second in command, sharing his spotlight with Girahim, it's harder to be frighten by the man when you keep the child-like mood swing and anger tamtrum, but remove the creepy music, the build-up and the army backing him up, and then [[OvershadowedbyAwesome put him in a game where Ganondorf is one of the playable character.]]. Context is mostly what made Zant menacing.
* Compare and contrast the way the characters are in ''VideoGame/{{Harvest Moon 64}}'' to how they are in games ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonBackToNature'' and afterwards. Karen, for example, was a cold woman until you [[DefrostingTheIceQueen befriend]] or court her who wanted to leave the small town she was raised in for the city. In future games she works at a grocery store instead of a bar, loses all of her attitude, and becomes a CoolBigSis.
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CoolBigSis. Even ''Back to Nature'' to ''Friends of Mineral Town'' has this, to a far lesser degree. Kai was a JerkAss who intentionally bugged Rick but in later games Rick is just an overprotective brother towards Popuri and Kai is a NiceGuy.
12th Aug '16 12:13:09 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* One of the first pieces of ''Franchise//{{Halo}}'' media was ''The Cortana Letters'', a series of emails sent to a ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' fansite. They show that early on, Cortana was an expy of Durandal from ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'', being contemptuous of the Master Chief and wanting to achieve godhood. Fragments of these letters were eventually used in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', but re-purposed and with the unused parts declared non-canon. [[spoiler:The "achieving godhood" part was repurposed for ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'', though unlike in the ''Letters'', Cortana still has a soft spot for the Chief.]]

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* One of the first pieces of ''Franchise//{{Halo}}'' ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' media was ''The Cortana Letters'', a series of emails sent to a ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' fansite. They show that early on, Cortana was an expy of Durandal from ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'', being contemptuous of the Master Chief and wanting to achieve godhood. Fragments of these letters were eventually used in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', but re-purposed and with the unused parts declared non-canon. [[spoiler:The "achieving godhood" part was repurposed for ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'', though unlike in the ''Letters'', Cortana still has a soft spot for the Chief.]]
12th Aug '16 12:12:55 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* One of the first pieces of ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' media was ''The Cortana Letters'', a series of emails sent to a ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' fansite. They show that early on, Cortana was an expy of Durandal from ''Marathon'', being contemptuous of the Master Chief and wanting to achieve godhood. Fragments of these letters were eventually used in ''Halo 3'', but re-purposed and with the unused parts declared non-canon.

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* One of the first pieces of ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' ''Franchise//{{Halo}}'' media was ''The Cortana Letters'', a series of emails sent to a ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' fansite. They show that early on, Cortana was an expy of Durandal from ''Marathon'', ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'', being contemptuous of the Master Chief and wanting to achieve godhood. Fragments of these letters were eventually used in ''Halo 3'', ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', but re-purposed and with the unused parts declared non-canon.non-canon. [[spoiler:The "achieving godhood" part was repurposed for ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'', though unlike in the ''Letters'', Cortana still has a soft spot for the Chief.]]
22nd Jul '16 4:35:33 PM Ninetails2000
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** Starting in Sonic Adventure, Amy's personality([[FlatCharacter at least, what little personality she had in the Classic era]]) was given a bit of a revamp, making slightly more mature and giving her the goal of wanting to prove herself to Sonic and win his heart at the same time. As the games continued on however, she became progressively more [[TookALevelInJerkass abrasive, temperamental and combative]] to the point that her pining for Sonic would often turn into borderline bullying if he didn't reciprocate the way she wanted him to. Starting from Generations, however, her personality has been tweaked to bring back a lot of her softness, taking her back to something fitting between her Classic and Adventure personality while still keeping a bit of her abrasive edge from time to time. This is without factoring in her SonicBoom remodeling, which gives her an AdrenalineMakeover that turns her more into a [[LittleMissSnarker sassier]], [[LadyOfWar more obviously competent]] version of her Sonic Adventure personality while retaining her kind, nurturing elements.
20th Jul '16 1:21:02 PM DaibhidC
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** Moreover, in ''Night Watch'', we get to see the Patrician as a young man (TimeTravel was involved), and he's just as enigmatic and manipulative as ever. So, not only did his characterization march on, but it was also been {{retconned}} into always having been that way.

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** Moreover, in ''Night Watch'', we get to see the Patrician as a young man (TimeTravel was involved), and he's just as enigmatic and manipulative as ever. So, not only did his characterization march on, but it was also been {{retconned}} into always having been that way. Then again, if you do the maths, the past-set sequence in question takes place close to the time of ''Sourcery'', meaning Vetinari ''couldn't'' have been the Patrician back then. Annoyingly, ''Sourcery'' is the first novel where the Patrician is directly named as Lord Vetinari...
20th Jul '16 1:12:45 PM DaibhidC
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** Moreover, in ''Night Watch'', we get to see the Patrician as a young man (TimeTravel was involved), and he's just as enigmatic and manipulative as ever. So, not only did his characterization march on, but it was also been {{retconned}} into always having been that way. Then again, if you do the maths, the past-set sequence in question takes place close to the time of ''Sourcery'', meaning Vetinari ''couldn't'' have been the Patrician back then...

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** Moreover, in ''Night Watch'', we get to see the Patrician as a young man (TimeTravel was involved), and he's just as enigmatic and manipulative as ever. So, not only did his characterization march on, but it was also been {{retconned}} into always having been that way. Then again, if you do the maths, the past-set sequence in question takes place close to the time of ''Sourcery'', meaning Vetinari ''couldn't'' have been the Patrician back then...
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