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* Early on in ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'', Twilight is shown to be a completely self-righteous egomaniac who constantly [[AbusiveParent abuses her adopted son/slave Spike]] in some form in pretty much every scene they appear in together, much like her Friendship Is Witchcraft counterpart. But, as the series continued, both these aspects were gradually toned down, until her ego pretty much disappeared in favor of having her as a ButtMonkey [[note]] This may be justified in-universe, as unlike FIW Twilight, ponies openly despise her and treat her poorly on a regular basis, so its possible that being surrounded by ponies who treat like that regularly might have been a huge blow to her ego.[[/note]] and though she still mistreats [[TheWoobie Spike]], it isn't shown quiet as often.

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* Early on in ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'', Twilight is shown to be a completely self-righteous egomaniac who constantly [[AbusiveParent [[AbusiveParents abuses her adopted son/slave Spike]] in some form in pretty much every scene they appear in together, much like her Friendship Is Witchcraft counterpart. But, as the series continued, both these aspects were gradually toned down, until her ego pretty much disappeared in favor of having her as a ButtMonkey [[note]] This may be justified in-universe, as unlike FIW Twilight, ponies openly despise her and treat her poorly on a regular basis, so its possible that being surrounded by ponies who treat like that regularly might have been a huge blow to her ego.[[/note]] and though she still mistreats [[TheWoobie Spike]], it isn't shown quiet as often.



* In Peggy Carter's first appearance in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse she's a very serious no-nonsense woman who's not particularly funny. In her own [[Series/AgentCarter series]] while those personality traits are intact, she's shown to be more of a DeadpanSnarker and gets a little bit of an {{Adorkable}} side. Additionally Howard Stark's womanising ways didn't really show up until ''Agent Carter'' where he's essentially a 1940s [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Barney Stinson]].

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In Peggy Carter's ComicBook/PeggyCarter's first appearance in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse she's a very serious no-nonsense woman who's not particularly funny. In her own [[Series/AgentCarter series]] while those personality traits are intact, she's shown to be more of a DeadpanSnarker and gets a little bit of an {{Adorkable}} side. Additionally Howard Stark's womanising ways didn't really show up until ''Agent Carter'' where he's essentially a 1940s [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Barney Stinson]].



* In Tomie [=DePaola's=] ''Strega Nona'' series, the character of Bambolona first appeared as a minor character in the second book an {{Abhorrent Admirer}} to Big Anthony. In the third book she became Strega Nona's apprentice, and for the rest of the series was a competent, {{Closer to Earth}} assistant in contrast to Big Anthony's irresponsibility. Her crush on him also disappeared.

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* In Tomie [=DePaola's=] ''Strega Nona'' series, the character of Bambolona first appeared as a minor character in the second book an {{Abhorrent Admirer}} AbhorrentAdmirer to Big Anthony. In the third book she became Strega Nona's apprentice, and for the rest of the series was a competent, {{Closer to Earth}} assistant in contrast to Big Anthony's irresponsibility. Her crush on him also disappeared.



* Wrestling/RandyOrton. When he first debuted, he was a clean cut babyface, and even when he turned heel a few months later, he still had his optimism -- compare that to the modern-day Orton, a psychotic sociopath who hears voices in his head, and it's like seeing two entirely different people. There's an in-universe [[JustifiedTrope justification]] for this, which is frequently referred to: his ousting from Wrestling/{{Evolution}}, something Randy ''never'' got over. From that point on, his obsession with the WWE Championship and his seething resentment over the betrayal gradually drove Randy to the depths of insanity, and even now, almost a decade after the stable fully dissolved, one can still see Evolution's influence. The event functioned as his StartOfDarkness, and eventually came to define his ''entire'' career -- it took a continuous effort from [[SevenYearRule 2004 to 2011]] for him to get closure over the issue.

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* Wrestling/RandyOrton. When he first debuted, he was a clean cut babyface, and even when he turned heel a few months later, he still had his optimism -- compare that to the modern-day Orton, a psychotic sociopath who hears voices in his head, and it's like seeing two entirely different people. There's an in-universe [[JustifiedTrope justification]] {{justifi|edTrope}}cation for this, which is frequently referred to: his ousting from Wrestling/{{Evolution}}, something Randy ''never'' got over. From that point on, his obsession with the WWE Championship and his seething resentment over the betrayal gradually drove Randy to the depths of insanity, and even now, almost a decade after the stable fully dissolved, one can still see Evolution's influence. The event functioned as his StartOfDarkness, and eventually came to define his ''entire'' career -- it took a continuous effort from [[SevenYearRule 2004 to 2011]] for him to get closure over the issue.



** ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'': the True Fae in the first edition were despicted as AlwaysChaoticEvil bastards with BlueAndOrangeMorality who actively kidnapped humans on regular basis to turn them into Changelings for the sake of it. Their motivations were gradually fleshed out over the course of the various book, and the second edition eventually establishes this is actually only a small fraction of them; the large majority of the species, while still subject to BlueAndOrangeMorality, are fairly neutral and would much rather stay in Arcadia minding their own business than go mess with humans.
** Similarly, earlier drafts of ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' despicted ''all'' [[HeroAntagonist Heroes]] as irredeemable, AxeCrazy {{Knight Templar}}s with an ego problem who hunted Beasts out of FantasticRacism. The final version of the book clarified there ''are'' actually good Heroes who actually deserve the titles, the Beasts just tend to run mostly into the ones with low Integrity. The supplement ''Conquering Heroes'' then provided sample Heroes with various shades of gray and motivations, clarifying not all of them fit this description.

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** ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'': the True Fae in the first edition were despicted depicted as AlwaysChaoticEvil bastards with BlueAndOrangeMorality who actively kidnapped humans on regular basis to turn them into Changelings for the sake of it. Their motivations were gradually fleshed out over the course of the various book, and the second edition eventually establishes this is actually only a small fraction of them; the large majority of the species, while still subject to BlueAndOrangeMorality, are fairly neutral and would much rather stay in Arcadia minding their own business than go mess with humans.
** Similarly, earlier drafts of ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' despicted depicted ''all'' [[HeroAntagonist Heroes]] {{Hero|Antagonist}}es as irredeemable, AxeCrazy AxCrazy {{Knight Templar}}s with an ego problem who hunted Beasts out of FantasticRacism. The final version of the book clarified there ''are'' actually good Heroes who actually deserve the titles, the Beasts just tend to run mostly into the ones with low Integrity. The supplement ''Conquering Heroes'' then provided sample Heroes with various shades of gray and motivations, clarifying not all of them fit this description.



** Starting in Sonic Adventure, Amy's personality([[FlatCharacter at least, what little personality she had in the Classic era]]) was given a bit of a revamp, making slightly more mature and giving her the goal of wanting to prove herself to Sonic and win his heart at the same time. As the games continued on however, she became progressively more [[TookALevelInJerkass abrasive, temperamental and combative]] to the point that her pining for Sonic would often turn into borderline bullying if he didn't reciprocate the way she wanted him to. Starting from Generations, however, her personality has been tweaked to bring back a lot of her softness, taking her back to something fitting between her Classic and Adventure personality while still keeping a bit of her abrasive edge from time to time. This is without factoring in her SonicBoom remodeling, which gives her an AdrenalineMakeover that turns her more into a [[LittleMissSnarker sassier]], [[LadyOfWar more obviously competent]] version of her Sonic Adventure personality while retaining her kind, nurturing elements, and changing her obsessive behavior over Sonic into [[CannotSpitItOut an obvious crush that she tries to keep hidden]].

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** Starting in Sonic Adventure, ''Sonic Adventure'', Amy's personality([[FlatCharacter personality ([[FlatCharacter at least, what little personality she had in the Classic era]]) was given a bit of a revamp, making slightly more mature and giving her the goal of wanting to prove herself to Sonic and win his heart at the same time. As the games continued on however, she became progressively more [[TookALevelInJerkass abrasive, temperamental and combative]] to the point that her pining for Sonic would often turn into borderline bullying if he didn't reciprocate the way she wanted him to. Starting from Generations, however, her personality has been tweaked to bring back a lot of her softness, taking her back to something fitting between her Classic and Adventure personality while still keeping a bit of her abrasive edge from time to time. This is without factoring in her SonicBoom remodeling, which gives her an AdrenalineMakeover that turns her more into a [[LittleMissSnarker sassier]], [[LadyOfWar more obviously competent]] version of her Sonic Adventure personality while retaining her kind, nurturing elements, and changing her obsessive behavior over Sonic into [[CannotSpitItOut an obvious crush that she tries to keep hidden]].



* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat1'' features a ''very'' different [[PhysicalGod Raiden]] from the rest of [[Franchise/MortalKombat the series]]. In every other game, he's the protector of Earthrealm, the mentor to [[MessianicArchetype Liu Kang]] and the other Earthrealm warriors, and one of the most powerful forces for good. In the first one? He's a ChaoticStupid {{Jerkass}} who enters the tournament simply to show he's not afraid of Shang Tsung, thinks nothing of the mortals he's fighting, and in his ending bans anyone but gods from entering the tournament [[spoiler: and blows up the Earth as a result.]] Whenever a work references the events of the original, they just pretend the second characterization is what happened.

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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat1'' features a ''very'' different [[PhysicalGod Raiden]] from the rest of [[Franchise/MortalKombat the series]]. In every other game, he's the protector of Earthrealm, the mentor to [[MessianicArchetype Liu Kang]] and the other Earthrealm warriors, and one of the most powerful forces for good. In the first one? He's a ChaoticStupid {{Jerkass}} who enters the tournament simply to show he's not afraid of Shang Tsung, thinks nothing of the mortals he's fighting, and in his ending bans anyone but gods from entering the tournament [[spoiler: and blows up the Earth as a result.]] result]]. Whenever a work references the events of the original, they just pretend the second characterization is what happened.



* Kenny in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' is a NiceGuy in Episode 1, his most dis-likable features being nothing more than shades of PapaWolf. In Episode 2 onward, he kills [[spoiler:Larry]] when it appears he may become a zombie and then has the nerve to hold a grudge against you if you were trying to revive the man, advises against putting a dying woman out of her misery so that she can act as a distraction, may fight Lee on the train when informs him that [[spoiler:his son is turning into a walker]], and generally gets extremely annoyed if Lee disagrees with him, even leaving him to die at certain times depending on previous choices. Possibly justified, as the gap between Episodes 1 and 2 is 3 months, the longest of the whole game.
** After [[WhamEpisode Episode 3]] Kenny seems to have a single focus in his life and is fueled by anger and persistance to chase it (and is the hardest NPC to convince to join up with you when StormingTheCastle), come [[spoiler: Season 2]] and he has mellowed down a lot until [[spoiler: he loses his new friends and family and he's all but a homocidal maniac who happens to be on your side]]

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* Kenny in ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' is a NiceGuy in Episode 1, his most dis-likable unlikable features being nothing more than shades of PapaWolf. In Episode 2 onward, he kills [[spoiler:Larry]] when it appears he may become a zombie and then has the nerve to hold a grudge against you if you were trying to revive the man, advises against putting a dying woman out of her misery so that she can act as a distraction, may fight Lee on the train when informs him that [[spoiler:his son is turning into a walker]], and generally gets extremely annoyed if Lee disagrees with him, even leaving him to die at certain times depending on previous choices. Possibly justified, as the gap between Episodes 1 and 2 is 3 months, the longest of the whole game.
** After [[WhamEpisode Episode 3]] Kenny seems to have a single focus in his life and is fueled by anger and persistance persistence to chase it (and is the hardest NPC to convince to join up with you when StormingTheCastle), come [[spoiler: Season 2]] and he has mellowed down a lot until [[spoiler: he loses his new friends and family and he's all but a homocidal homicidal maniac who happens to be on your side]]side]].



* ''VideoGame/ShinSuperRobotWars'': Ryusei Date, one of the "mascot" characters from the franchise, was an outright JerkAss in his first appearance. Almost all his in-battle dialog when dodging an attack amounts to "Wow, you suck. Just give up already, loser." And at one point, he goes around telling the other characters that his teammate Rai is gay (which earns him the beating of a lifetime when Rai finds out), and several of the official {{Yonkoma}} end with the two of them [[MexicanStandoff pointing guns at each other]]. In fact, Banpresto actually [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] this in the ''Original Generation'' storyline, where Ryusei's rival Tenzan Nakajima essentially has Ryusei's old personality, demonstrating that he's a better person thanks to opening up and making friends instead of obsessing over [[IKnowMortalKombat video games]] like he did in ''Shin''.

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* ''VideoGame/ShinSuperRobotWars'': Ryusei Date, one of the "mascot" characters from the franchise, was an outright JerkAss in his first appearance. Almost all his in-battle dialog when dodging an attack amounts to "Wow, you suck. Just give up already, loser." And at one point, he goes around telling the other characters that his teammate Rai is gay (which earns him the beating of a lifetime when Rai finds out), and several of the official {{Yonkoma}} end with the two of them [[MexicanStandoff pointing guns at each other]]. In fact, Banpresto actually [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] {{lampshade|Hanging}}d this in the ''Original Generation'' storyline, where Ryusei's rival Tenzan Nakajima essentially has Ryusei's old personality, demonstrating that he's a better person thanks to opening up and making friends instead of obsessing over [[IKnowMortalKombat video games]] like he did in ''Shin''.
25th Sep '17 8:04:03 PM Monolaf317
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** Trisha was ''far'' bitchier in her debut episode, almost nothing like the NiceGirl she currently is.
** Brittnay started out as a stereotypical DumbBlonde whose only qualities were anger and vapidness, but she had gradually evolved into, in Mark Cope's own words, a "hardened diamond of hell".

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** Trisha Cappelletti was ''far'' bitchier in her debut episode, almost nothing like the NiceGirl she currently is.
** Brittnay Matthews started out as a stereotypical DumbBlonde whose only qualities were anger and vapidness, but she had gradually evolved into, in Mark Cope's own the creators' words, a lot smarter, more independent "hardened diamond of hell".
25th Sep '17 8:02:10 PM Monolaf317
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** Brittnay started out as a stereotypical DumbBlonde, and gradually into, in Mark Cope's words, a "hardened diamond of hell".

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** Brittnay started out as a stereotypical DumbBlonde, DumbBlonde whose only qualities were anger and vapidness, but she had gradually evolved into, in Mark Cope's own words, a "hardened diamond of hell".



25th Sep '17 7:58:48 PM Monolaf317
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** In her first appearances, Lucy was a cute little {{Cloudcuckoolander}}, nothing like her later incarnation.

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** In her first appearances, appearances (as a baby), Lucy was a cute little {{Cloudcuckoolander}}, nothing like her later incarnation.


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** Trisha was ''far'' bitchier in her debut episode, almost nothing like the NiceGirl she currently is.
** Brittnay started out as a stereotypical DumbBlonde, and gradually into, in Mark Cope's words, a "hardened diamond of hell".
19th Sep '17 8:02:17 AM KingLyger
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** Starting in Sonic Adventure, Amy's personality([[FlatCharacter at least, what little personality she had in the Classic era]]) was given a bit of a revamp, making slightly more mature and giving her the goal of wanting to prove herself to Sonic and win his heart at the same time. As the games continued on however, she became progressively more [[TookALevelInJerkass abrasive, temperamental and combative]] to the point that her pining for Sonic would often turn into borderline bullying if he didn't reciprocate the way she wanted him to. Starting from Generations, however, her personality has been tweaked to bring back a lot of her softness, taking her back to something fitting between her Classic and Adventure personality while still keeping a bit of her abrasive edge from time to time. This is without factoring in her SonicBoom remodeling, which gives her an AdrenalineMakeover that turns her more into a [[LittleMissSnarker sassier]], [[LadyOfWar more obviously competent]] version of her Sonic Adventure personality while retaining her kind, nurturing elements.

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** Starting in Sonic Adventure, Amy's personality([[FlatCharacter at least, what little personality she had in the Classic era]]) was given a bit of a revamp, making slightly more mature and giving her the goal of wanting to prove herself to Sonic and win his heart at the same time. As the games continued on however, she became progressively more [[TookALevelInJerkass abrasive, temperamental and combative]] to the point that her pining for Sonic would often turn into borderline bullying if he didn't reciprocate the way she wanted him to. Starting from Generations, however, her personality has been tweaked to bring back a lot of her softness, taking her back to something fitting between her Classic and Adventure personality while still keeping a bit of her abrasive edge from time to time. This is without factoring in her SonicBoom remodeling, which gives her an AdrenalineMakeover that turns her more into a [[LittleMissSnarker sassier]], [[LadyOfWar more obviously competent]] version of her Sonic Adventure personality while retaining her kind, nurturing elements.elements, and changing her obsessive behavior over Sonic into [[CannotSpitItOut an obvious crush that she tries to keep hidden]].
** Tails was originally a KidHero sidekick who wanted to prove himself to Sonic, and was said to be quite a show-off. Starting with ''Sonic Adventure'', he became TheSmartGuy whose I.Q. was said to rival EvilGenius Dr. Eggman's, playing up his tendency to be good with machines (while also making him [[CaptainCrash utterly incapable of landing any plane he created]]), though his levels still focused around beating Sonic. ''Sonic Adventure 2'' scaled back Tails' hero worship of Sonic a bit more, and ''Sonic Colors'' got rid of it entirely in favor of just making him a GadgeteerGenius. His friendship with Sonic has always been constant, though these days it's more like Sonic sees Tails as a little brother.
*** Tails' name has also been subject to this. In his first appearance in ''Sonic the Hedgehog 2," his name was stated as Miles Prower, with "Tails" in quotation marks, making it clear that it was a nickname. Later characterization rarely, if ever, mentions his full name of Miles Prower, and just treats "Tails" like it's his birth name.
7th Sep '17 7:52:12 AM BeerBaron
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** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Princes]] cross this over with EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. The personalities of many of the Princes are ''very'' different in their first appearance in ''Daggerfall'' than they would go on to be depicted in later games. Sheogorath, the Daedric Prince of [[MadGod Madness]], is a notable example he didn't seem to settle into his MadHatter-esque characterization until his ADayInTheLimelight episode in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Shivering Isles'' expansion. (Even his vocal appearance in his quest in vanilla ''Oblivion'' didn't match in voice or temperament.)
** Aureals (aka Golden Saints), are a form of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] in service to Sheogorath. In their first appearance in ''Morrowind'', Golden Saints are powerful female Daedra with [[MagicKnight extremely potent spells, weapons, and shields]] at their disposal. (Given the [[YourSoulIsMine value of their souls]], its fair to say that they're the most powerful lesser Daedra in the game.) However, very little background information is given about them save that they are servants of Sheogorath. It's not until the ''Shivering Isles'' that they're established to be [[ProudWarriorRace proud]], [[HonorBeforeReason arrogant]], [[DoesNotLikeMen man-hating]] [[AmazonBrigade Amazonian]] style warriors. They also take a step back in overall power compared to the other lesser Daedra in the game, being more in line with [[LegionsOfHell Dremora]].
** Crossing over with EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, this is the case for Clannfear, a form of lesser Daedra with animalistic intelligence and the general appearance of [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs raptors]] with frills and beaks. In their first appearance in ''Battlespire'', they are semi-intelligent and can even be conversed with. They are also larger, slower, and have powerful but clumsy attacks which are easy to dodge. ''Morrowind'' reduces their intelligence but keeps them as slow and somewhat clumsy. They finally settle into their unintelligent "Daedric Raptor" role in ''Oblivion'', which gets further built upon in ''Online''.

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** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Princes]] cross this over with EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. The personalities of many of the Princes are ''very'' different in their first appearance in ''Daggerfall'' than they would go on to be depicted in later games. Sheogorath, the Daedric Prince of [[MadGod Madness]], is a notable example he didn't seem to settle into his MadHatter-esque characterization until his ADayInTheLimelight episode in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Shivering Isles'' expansion. (Even his vocal appearance in his quest in vanilla ''Oblivion'' didn't match in voice or temperament.)
) For details on the other Daedric Princes, see their entries on the series' [[Characters/TheElderScrollsDaedra Daedra Characters page]].
** Aureals (aka Golden Saints), are a form This is also the case for many of the types of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] which have made multiple appearances in service to Sheogorath. In their first appearance in ''Morrowind'', Golden Saints are powerful female the series. Please see the series' [[Characters/TheElderScrollsDaedra Daedra with [[MagicKnight extremely potent spells, weapons, and shields]] at their disposal. (Given the [[YourSoulIsMine value of their souls]], its fair to say that they're the most powerful lesser Daedra in the game.) However, very little background information is given about them save that they are servants of Sheogorath. It's not until the ''Shivering Isles'' that they're established to be [[ProudWarriorRace proud]], [[HonorBeforeReason arrogant]], [[DoesNotLikeMen man-hating]] [[AmazonBrigade Amazonian]] style warriors. They also take a step back in overall power compared to the other lesser Daedra in the game, being more in line with [[LegionsOfHell Dremora]].
** Crossing over with EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, this is the case
Characters page]] for Clannfear, a form of lesser Daedra with animalistic intelligence and the general appearance of [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs raptors]] with frills and beaks. In their first appearance in ''Battlespire'', they are semi-intelligent and can even be conversed with. They are also larger, slower, and have powerful but clumsy attacks which are easy to dodge. ''Morrowind'' reduces their intelligence but keeps them as slow and somewhat clumsy. They finally settle into their unintelligent "Daedric Raptor" role in ''Oblivion'', which gets further built upon in ''Online''. specific examples.
6th Sep '17 12:47:21 PM BeerBaron
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** Crossing over with EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, this is the case for Clannfear, a form of lesser Daedra with animalistic intelligence and the general appearance of [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs raptors]] with frills and beaks. In their first appearance in ''Battlespire'', they are semi-intelligent and can even be conversed with. They are also larger, slower, and have powerful but clumsy attacks which are easy to dodge. ''Morrowind'' reduces their intelligence but keeps them as slow and somewhat clumsy. They finally settle into their unintelligent "Daedric Raptor" role in ''Oblivion'', which gets further built upon in ''Online''.
6th Sep '17 8:20:03 AM BeerBaron
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** The [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]] have experienced this as a race. Originally, were simple "hurr durr smash hoomies" Tolkein-style Orcs with nothing particularly noteworthy about them (they weren't even playable in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsArena Arena]]'' or [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]). Beginning with ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', however, their characterization has shifted massively. Rather than just being dumb, they've been severely marginalized for ages - even their patron deity reflects this. The [[BadassArmy Imperial Legion]] of [[TheGoodKing Emperor Uriel VII]]'s time, among other things, however, helped them to begin to properly integrate into the Empire better - thus [[PromotedToPlayable making them playable]].

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** The [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]] have experienced this as a race. Originally, were simple "hurr durr smash hoomies" Tolkein-style Orcs with nothing particularly noteworthy about them (they weren't even playable in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsArena Arena]]'' or [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]).''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]''). Beginning with ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', however, their characterization has shifted massively. Rather than just being dumb, they've been severely marginalized for ages - even their patron deity reflects this. The [[BadassArmy Imperial Legion]] of [[TheGoodKing Emperor Uriel VII]]'s time, among other things, however, helped them to begin to properly integrate into the Empire better - thus [[PromotedToPlayable making them playable]].


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** Aureals (aka Golden Saints), are a form of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] in service to Sheogorath. In their first appearance in ''Morrowind'', Golden Saints are powerful female Daedra with [[MagicKnight extremely potent spells, weapons, and shields]] at their disposal. (Given the [[YourSoulIsMine value of their souls]], its fair to say that they're the most powerful lesser Daedra in the game.) However, very little background information is given about them save that they are servants of Sheogorath. It's not until the ''Shivering Isles'' that they're established to be [[ProudWarriorRace proud]], [[HonorBeforeReason arrogant]], [[DoesNotLikeMen man-hating]] [[AmazonBrigade Amazonian]] style warriors. They also take a step back in overall power compared to the other lesser Daedra in the game, being more in line with [[LegionsOfHell Dremora]].
17th Aug '17 11:18:46 PM Twentington
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* In Tomie DePaola's ''Strega Nona'' series, the character of Bambolona first appeared as a minor character in the second book an {{Abhorrent Admirer}} to Big Anthony. In the third book she became Strega Nona's apprentice, and for the rest of the series was a competent, {{Closer to Earth}} assistant in contrast to Big Anthony's irresponsibility. Her crush on him also disappeared.

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* In Tomie DePaola's [=DePaola's=] ''Strega Nona'' series, the character of Bambolona first appeared as a minor character in the second book an {{Abhorrent Admirer}} to Big Anthony. In the third book she became Strega Nona's apprentice, and for the rest of the series was a competent, {{Closer to Earth}} assistant in contrast to Big Anthony's irresponsibility. Her crush on him also disappeared.
14th Aug '17 10:12:21 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]] have experienced this as a race. [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Originally]], were simple "hurr durr smash hoomies" Tolkein-style Orcs with nothing particularly noteworthy about them (they weren't even playable in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsArena Arena]]'' or [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]). Beginning with ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', however, their characterization has shifted massively. Rather than just being dumb, they've been severely marginalized for ages - even their [[OurGodsAreDifferent god]] reflects this. The [[BadassArmy Imperial Legion]] of [[TheGoodKing Emperor Uriel VII]]'s time, among other things, however, helped them to begin to properly integrate into the Empire better - thus [[PromotedToPlayable making them playable]].

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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', the ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
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[[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]] have experienced this as a race. [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Originally]], Originally, were simple "hurr durr smash hoomies" Tolkein-style Orcs with nothing particularly noteworthy about them (they weren't even playable in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsArena Arena]]'' or [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]). Beginning with ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', however, their characterization has shifted massively. Rather than just being dumb, they've been severely marginalized for ages - even their [[OurGodsAreDifferent god]] patron deity reflects this. The [[BadassArmy Imperial Legion]] of [[TheGoodKing Emperor Uriel VII]]'s time, among other things, however, helped them to begin to properly integrate into the Empire better - thus [[PromotedToPlayable making them playable]].
** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Princes]] cross this over with EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. The personalities of many of the Princes are ''very'' different in their first appearance in ''Daggerfall'' than they would go on to be depicted in later games. Sheogorath, the Daedric Prince of [[MadGod Madness]], is a notable example he didn't seem to settle into his MadHatter-esque characterization until his ADayInTheLimelight episode in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Shivering Isles'' expansion. (Even his vocal appearance in his quest in vanilla ''Oblivion'' didn't match in voice or temperament.)
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