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15th May '16 9:32:46 AM nombretomado
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* At this point, there are at least three different characterizations of {{Magneto}}, with authors repeatedly [[ArmedWithCanon rerailing one by derailing the others]]. The original characterization was a generically evil BigBad. Creator/ChrisClaremont's tormented WellIntentionedExtremist is the most complex and long-running, considered his "true" self by most, but Creator/GrantMorrison's AxCrazy villain is actually arguably closer to the character's roots. However, nobody complained about Magneto's return to the character he'd been from 1975 to 2003 immediately after by Claremont himself, with Morrison's Magneto revealed as an impostor. Morrison, however, wasn't the first to try and make him TheHeavy again, though they did make sure he had sufficient provocation for "Fatal Attractions" back in the 90s.

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* At this point, there are at least three different characterizations of {{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, with authors repeatedly [[ArmedWithCanon rerailing one by derailing the others]]. The original characterization was a generically evil BigBad. Creator/ChrisClaremont's tormented WellIntentionedExtremist is the most complex and long-running, considered his "true" self by most, but Creator/GrantMorrison's AxCrazy villain is actually arguably closer to the character's roots. However, nobody complained about Magneto's return to the character he'd been from 1975 to 2003 immediately after by Claremont himself, with Morrison's Magneto revealed as an impostor. Morrison, however, wasn't the first to try and make him TheHeavy again, though they did make sure he had sufficient provocation for "Fatal Attractions" back in the 90s.
5th May '16 10:52:36 PM Kid
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* This affects ''Literature/{{Franklin}}'' himself in ''Franklin and Friends'' at the start of an episode; right after one that contains a SnapBack or an AesopAmnesia that affected him.

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* This affects ''Literature/{{Franklin}}'' himself in ''Franklin and Friends'' at the start of an episode; episode, right after one that contains a SnapBack or an AesopAmnesia that affected him.
19th Mar '16 7:58:40 AM Psi001
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** [[TerribleTrio Jessie, James, and Meowth]] were first introduced as true members of the evil Team Rocket organization, constantly obeying their leader [[BigBad Giovanni]] all the time. But after their obsession with capturing Ash Ketchum's Pikachu began in the show's second episode, they started to ignore Giovanni and mainly went after Pikachu, which inevitably resulted in them constantly getting kicked around and "being blasted off again" every single time, even when Ash continued his journeys beyond Kanto. By Sinnoh, they had gone from their original intentions of {{Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain}}s to an outright GoldfishPoopGang with silly dances and Boss Fantasies being seen as outright detrimental to both the show in general and the Terrible [=TRio=] specifically. The writers for the ''Best Wishes'' arc made them super competent and super important; which generated (yet another) BrokenBase and was ultimately seen as [[CerebusSyndrome swinging the pendulum too far the other way]]. Early Kalos seems to have split the difference, wherein Team Rocket's plans are self-contained and usually doomed to failure, yet Pikachu is now an ''occasional'' target, giving way to the [[VictimOfTheWeek Pokemon of the Week]].[[note]]Which sometimes is not a Pokemon.[[/note]] This has struck fans early on as a "happy medium". Unfortunately, they became more overexposed and less useful to the plot as the series went on, [[UnpleasableFanbase leading to fan dissatisfaction once again.]]

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** [[TerribleTrio Jessie, James, and Meowth]] were first introduced as true members of the evil Team Rocket organization, constantly obeying their leader [[BigBad Giovanni]] all the time. But after their obsession with capturing Ash Ketchum's Pikachu began in the show's second episode, they started to ignore Giovanni and mainly went after Pikachu, which inevitably resulted in them constantly getting kicked around and "being blasted off again" every single time, even when Ash continued his journeys beyond Kanto. By Sinnoh, they had gone from their original intentions of {{Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain}}s to an outright GoldfishPoopGang with silly dances and Boss Fantasies being seen as outright detrimental to both the show in general and the Terrible [=TRio=] specifically. The writers for the ''Best Wishes'' arc made them super competent and super important; which generated (yet another) BrokenBase and was ultimately seen as [[CerebusSyndrome swinging the pendulum too far the other way]]. Early Kalos seems to have split the difference, wherein Team Rocket's plans are self-contained and usually doomed to failure, yet Pikachu is now an ''occasional'' target, giving way to the [[VictimOfTheWeek Pokemon of the Week]].[[note]]Which Week]][[note]]Which sometimes is not a Pokemon.[[/note]] and sometimes putting up a NotSoHarmless offence against Ash's team. This has struck fans early on as a "happy medium". Unfortunately, they became more overexposed and less useful to the plot as the series went on, [[UnpleasableFanbase leading to fan dissatisfaction once again.]]again]].
1st Mar '16 3:36:46 PM PurrElise
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** In the SpinOff ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaPresentsTheRidonculousRace'' Owen was rerailed further, becoming the AllLovingHero he was in ''Total Drama Island'' and losing any of the SmallNameBigEgo traits he hadn't quite lost in ''World Tour''.
13th Feb '16 1:27:48 AM Anddrix
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* In ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'', Vernon's portrayal which sees him as friends with April who helps her and Raph rescue the others arguably has him closer to how he originally was portrayed in the first season of [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 the '87 cartoon]] before he TookALevelInJerkass and became April's cowardly rival.
11th Feb '16 2:03:57 AM LondonKdS
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*** This one is very, very arguable. The original murderous Joker was a cold, grim, relatively rational but bad-tempered professional criminal who rarely made "jokes" as such. The wacky antics started in the SIlver Age, when he was turned into a usually HarmlessVillain due to taste and decency standards. "The Joker's Five-Way Revenge" actually merged the two for the first time, establishing the wacky but horrifically evil personality that he's had ever since.

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*** This one is very, very arguable. The original murderous Joker was a cold, grim, relatively rational but bad-tempered professional criminal who rarely made "jokes" as such. The wacky antics started in the SIlver Age, when he was turned into a usually during his HarmlessVillain due to taste and decency standards.Silver Age period. "The Joker's Five-Way Revenge" actually merged the two for the first time, establishing the wacky but horrifically evil personality that he's had ever since.
11th Feb '16 2:01:22 AM LondonKdS
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*** This one is very, very arguable. The original murderous Joker was a cold, grim, relatively rational but bad-tempered professional criminal who rarely made "jokes" as such. The wacky antics started in the SIlver Age, when he was turned into a usually HarmlessVillain due to taste and decency standards. "The Joker's Five-Way Revenge" actually merged the two for the first time, establishing the wacky but horrifically evil personality that he's had ever since.
4th Feb '16 4:00:03 AM Koolkev
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* This affects ''Literature/{{Franklin}}'' himself in ''Franklin and Friends'' at the start of an episode; right after one that contains a SnapBack or an AesopAmnesia that affected him.
2nd Feb '16 9:17:43 PM Karxrida
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* Axel from ''KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'' underwent massive characterization changes and BadassDecay in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2'', set between the two games, attempts to explain how this happened; he had been friends and co-conspirators with Saix, but gradually ended up bonding with Roxas and Xion instead, and using manipulative and underhanded means for what [[PoisonousFriend he at least claims is their own good]], leading Roxas to leave the Organization [[spoiler:and Xion to die fighting Roxas and be erased from everyone's memory]].

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* Axel from ''KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'' ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'' underwent massive characterization changes and BadassDecay in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2'', set between the two games, attempts to explain how this happened; he had been friends and co-conspirators with Saix, but gradually ended up bonding with Roxas and Xion instead, and using manipulative and underhanded means for what [[PoisonousFriend he at least claims is their own good]], leading Roxas to leave the Organization [[spoiler:and Xion to die fighting Roxas and be erased from everyone's memory]].
21st Jan '16 9:47:32 PM LadySugarQuill
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*** The Third Doctor era had done a drastic ReTool into a SpyFiction-influenced series, with the Third Doctor being a radical departure from the first two Doctors in that his TARDIS was broken and, stranded on Earth, he'd taken a job with the military. While this era is well-liked, some regard the characterisation as ''Doctor Who'' InNameOnly, between the Doctor tending to throw his social class around a lot more and the fact that the setup seemed to play down the appealing points of the character. When he regenerated into the Fourth Doctor he reverted to a clownish characterisation quite similar to the Second Doctor (although this developed in a more [[CreepyGood nuanced]] and [[HiddenDepths rounded]] direction after his first serial) and cut most of his ties to Earth and UNIT, in favour of the wild space travel and battles with monsters upon which the first two had focused. He even does some LeaningOnTheFourthWall to inform the other characters that he's back to being how he should be ("I'm THE Doctor. The definite article.").

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*** The Third Doctor era had done a drastic ReTool into a SpyFiction-influenced series, with the Third Doctor being a radical departure from the first two Doctors in that his TARDIS was broken and, stranded on Earth, he'd taken a job with the military. While this era is well-liked, some regard the characterisation as ''Doctor Who'' InNameOnly, between the Doctor tending to throw his social class around a lot more and the fact that the setup seemed to play down the appealing points of the character. When he regenerated into the Fourth Doctor he reverted to a clownish characterisation quite similar to the Second Doctor (although this developed in a more [[CreepyGood nuanced]] and [[HiddenDepths rounded]] direction after his first serial) and cut most of his ties to Earth and UNIT, in favour of the wild space travel and battles with monsters upon which the first two had focused. He even does some LeaningOnTheFourthWall to inform the other characters that he's back to being how he should be ("I'm THE Doctor. The definite article.").



*** The Tenth Doctor era tried to make him DarkerAndEdgier but went to the point of having him do some [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar truly]] [[MindRape unheroic]] [[AndIMustScream things]] and never get called on it (even though, as mentioned above, people were more likely to complain than thank him when he was ''clearly saving their asses.'') However, the Tenth Doctor's last story contains none of the above and neither does the ReunionShow, and when the Eleventh Doctor is dark it's against actual bad guys, and we also finally get a WhatTheHellHero moment done right (When the Doctor is about to leave a guy who'd ''once'' done awful things to his fate at the hands of the supposed villain of the episode, who proves to have come for revenge, Amy reads him the riot act, and the Doctor says that as the only one who can fight such creatures, he feels that every time he shows mercy to a villain who goes on to abuse it, he feels that he's responsible for everyone who suffers at their hands. Though he doesn't directly connect it to any of them, a lot of seeming {{Jerkass}} moments from the previous era look more forgivable in that light. And this time, Amy is able to talk him out of going through with it.)



** The human race sort of gets this. Over the course of the Creator/RussellTDavies era, the focus on emotional realism and drama meant that the world was more and more prone to deciding that someone who had the power to beat the thing that almost took them out was too scary, and ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike reigned supreme. When Steven Moffat took over, when the Doctor was facing his FinalDeath, River showed him how the whole universe was saying they'd do whatever they could to help. "How dare you kill the giant spiders that were about to eat the world alive" is the ''exception''; the universe does know him as the hero he is.
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