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9th Feb '16 5:10:48 PM magnum12
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** Then Disgaea 5 reveals that [[spoiler: neither of the Asagi's mentioned is even real, actually being clones of the true Asagi. The only encounters that are "real" Asagi are likely MakaiKingdom, Disgaea 5, and possibly Disgaea 2]].
7th Feb '16 10:12:13 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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** Hogwarts resident [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghosts]] are initially presented as whimsical comic relief side characters who help drive home the school's fantastical nature; generally speaking, they're all quite jolly and easygoing, and they don't seem to have any angst about being dead. But as the series goes on, and the CentralTheme of Death becomes more prominent, it can seem rather odd that the ghosts are treated so light-heartedly. Well, in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Order of the Phoenix]]'', we learn that ghosts are actually regarded with great curiosity and scrutiny by Wizards, and that there's an entire secret department in the Ministry of Magic devoted to studying the mysteries of Death and the Afterlife. It's also heavily hinted that ghosts are the tormented souls of Wizards who weren't [[PeacefulInDeath at peace]] when they died. [[spoiler: After Sirius' death, a devastated Harry even asks Nearly Headless Nick if he might come back as a ghost, and becomes even more distraught when he learns that he won't]]. The idea grows another layer in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]'', when it's revealed that the Bloody Baron and the Grey Lady are [[spoiler: a pair of tragic StarCrossedLovers who wound up TogetherInDeath after the Bloody Baron killed her in a fit of rage, and later committed suicide]].
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** Hogwarts resident [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghosts]] are initially presented as whimsical comic relief side characters who help drive home the school's fantastical nature; generally speaking, they're all quite jolly and easygoing, and they don't seem to have any angst about being dead. But as the series goes on, and the CentralTheme of Death becomes more prominent, it can seem rather odd that the ghosts are treated so light-heartedly. Well, in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Order of the Phoenix]]'', we learn that ghosts are actually regarded with great curiosity and scrutiny by Wizards, and that there's an entire secret department in the Ministry of Magic devoted to studying the mysteries of Death and the Afterlife. It's Nearly Headless Nick also heavily hinted outright states that ghosts are the becoming a ghost is a FateWorseThanDeath chosen only by tormented souls of Wizards wizards who weren't [[PeacefulInDeath at peace]] when they died. are afraid--or unwilling--to face the Afterlife. [[spoiler: After Sirius' death, a devastated Harry even asks Nearly Headless Nick if he might come back as a ghost, and becomes even more distraught when he learns that he won't]]. The idea grows another layer in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]'', when it's revealed that the Bloody Baron and the Grey Lady are [[spoiler: a pair of tragic StarCrossedLovers who wound up TogetherInDeath after the Bloody Baron killed her in a fit of rage, and later committed suicide]].
5th Feb '16 7:27:54 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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** Hogwarts resident [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghosts]] are initially presented as whimsical comic relief side characters who help drive home the school's fantastical nature; generally speaking, they're all quite jolly and easygoing, and they don't seem to have any angst about being dead. But as the series goes on, and the CentralTheme of Death becomes more prominent, it can seem rather odd that the ghosts are treated so light-heartedly. Well, in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Order of the Phoenix]]'', we learn that ghosts are actually regarded with great curiosity and scrutiny by Wizards, and that there's an entire secret department in the Ministry of Magic devoted to studying the mysteries of Death and the Afterlife. It's also heavily hinted that ghosts are the tormented souls of Wizards who weren't [[PeacefulInDeath at peace]] when they died. [[spoiler: After Sirius' death, a devastated Harry even asks Nearly Headless Nick if he might come back as a ghost, and becomes even more distraught when he learns that he won't]]. The idea grows another layer in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows The Deathly Hallows]]'', when it's revealed that the Bloody Baron and the Grey Lady are [[spoiler: a pair of tragic StarCrossedLovers who wound up TogetherInDeath after the Bloody Baron killed her in a fit of rage, and later committed suicide]].
1st Feb '16 9:10:20 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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** ''Mystery Incorporated'' also humorously subverts this trope with its depiction of [[WesternAnimation/DynomuttDogWonder Blue Falcon and Dynomutt]]. The show's official explanation for Dynomutt's superpowers and enhanced intelligence is actually fairly dark: it turns out that he was nearly killed when he intervened to stop a break-in at [[WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest Quest Labs]], and [[WeCanRebuildHim he was given his robotic enhancements by Dr. Benton Quest in a last-ditch effort to save his life]]. The joke, though, is that Dynomutt is just as goofy and happy-go-lucky as ever, in spite of his past traumatic experiences; ''Blue Falcon'', on the other hand, is a grumpy misanthrope with anger problems, essentially a tongue-in-cheek parody of Batman in ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightReturns''.
29th Jan '16 4:04:14 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SuperSmashBrosBrawl'''s adventure mode, it is revealed that Mr. Game & Watch is actually made out of a special substance, that can be used to harvest shadow bugs, which are used to support the entire conflict of the story.
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* In ''SuperSmashBrosBrawl'''s ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'''s adventure mode, it is revealed that Mr. Game & Watch is actually made out of a special substance, that can be used to harvest shadow bugs, which are used to support the entire conflict of the story.
28th Jan '16 1:35:30 PM EDP
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** In ''A New Hope'', the gunner of the Death Star says "Stand by" twice when he can destroy Yavin IV, giving Luke enough time to destroy the station before it destroyed the Rebel base. ''Literature/DeathStar'' shows that the gunner had a HeelRealization after Alderaan, and that was his way to [[RedemptionEqualsDeath put off firing long enough for the Death Star to be destroyed, knowing that he'd die in the process]].
23rd Jan '16 8:13:06 PM Willbyr
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** In the first game, [[spoiler:Manfred von Karma]] was only penalized when he presented forged evidence in court. Even by the standards of the [[KangarooCourt ridiculously unfair justice system]] of the series, this seems odd, since come ''VisualNovel/{{Apollo Justice|AceAttorney}}'' Phoenix was ''disbarred'' for doing the same. Then, in ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations 2]]'', you learn that [[spoiler: the reason von Karma only got off with a penalty was because the (at the time) chief prosecutor was just as corrupt as he was, and was in on the forgery.]] ** Another one comes in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', where Apollo Justice's CatchPhrase of "I'm fine!" is given some clarification. In Apollo's [[ApolloJusticeAceAttorney game of origin]], it initially seemed like a nervous habit of Apollo's, since he usually said it when he was... well, nervous. Then ''Dual Destinies'' reveals that [[spoiler: it was a catchphrase shared with his childhood friend, Clay Terran, which they both shouted to cheer themselves up when their spirits were low]]. This, along with [[spoiler: Clay's murder]] turns it from a seemingly nervous habit to TearJerker.
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** In the first game, [[spoiler:Manfred von Karma]] was only penalized when he presented forged evidence in court. Even by the standards of the [[KangarooCourt ridiculously unfair justice system]] of the series, this seems odd, since come ''VisualNovel/{{Apollo Justice|AceAttorney}}'' Phoenix was ''disbarred'' for doing the same. Then, in ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations 2]]'', you learn that [[spoiler: the reason von Karma only got off with a penalty was because the (at the time) chief prosecutor was just as corrupt as he was, and was in on the forgery.]] ** Another one comes in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', where Apollo Justice's CatchPhrase of "I'm fine!" is given some clarification. In Apollo's [[ApolloJusticeAceAttorney [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney game of origin]], it initially seemed like a nervous habit of Apollo's, since he usually said it when he was... well, nervous. Then ''Dual Destinies'' reveals that [[spoiler: it was a catchphrase shared with his childhood friend, Clay Terran, which they both shouted to cheer themselves up when their spirits were low]]. This, along with [[spoiler: Clay's murder]] turns it from a seemingly nervous habit to TearJerker.

** Jessica [[MegatonPunch Megaton Punches]] one of her friends at school with a brass knuckle after being pissed off in ''Turn of the Golden Witch''. This stance is seen as a joke. Later, in ''Alliance of the Golden Witch'', she uses the brass knuckles again and they suddenly become conducts for SupernaturalMartialArts.
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** Jessica [[MegatonPunch Megaton Punches]] {{Megaton Punch}}es one of her friends at school with a brass knuckle after being pissed off in ''Turn of the Golden Witch''. This stance is seen as a joke. Later, in ''Alliance of the Golden Witch'', she uses the brass knuckles again and they suddenly become conducts for SupernaturalMartialArts.
23rd Jan '16 5:23:39 AM Tribun
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* ''FanFic/NoChanceForFate'' is this for two series at the same time. While in canon ''Anime/SailorMoon'' at least tried to play its story serious despite comedy, ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' was simple sociopathic comedy. Taking away this coat of comedy (without actually removing humor) reveals how truly fear-inspiring parts of both canons are. On the ''Sailor Moon'' side, what was only implied in canon is now shown in its horrific glory. On the ''Ranma'' side, absurd canon plots are taken to their logical - and thus horrifying - conclusion. [[spoiler: Shown dramatically with Happosai and Konatsu's backstory.]]
19th Jan '16 10:19:06 AM nombretomado
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* ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' had a rather stock villain duo in Warlord Zsinj and General Melvar, dim-witted and ''[[CardCarryingVillain eeeheeheeeeevil]]'' sadistic bad guys who had the resources -- a Super Star Destroyer and a device that cut off the sunlight from a particular planet -- to threaten our heroes. Their resources were more of a plot point than they were; the only role ''they'' played was to leer menacingly and set up those things, then be killed quickly. In the Literature/XWingSeries, set earlier, AaronAllston made it a point to expand on those two, making them FauxAffablyEvil, ''very'' intelligent, and quite essential to the plot. Their two-dimensional idiocy became ObfuscatingStupidity, and they actually turned into legitimate (and ''very'' entertaining) threats.
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* ''Literature/TheCourtshipOfPrincessLeia'' had a rather stock villain duo in Warlord Zsinj and General Melvar, dim-witted and ''[[CardCarryingVillain eeeheeheeeeevil]]'' sadistic bad guys who had the resources -- a Super Star Destroyer and a device that cut off the sunlight from a particular planet -- to threaten our heroes. Their resources were more of a plot point than they were; the only role ''they'' played was to leer menacingly and set up those things, then be killed quickly. In the Literature/XWingSeries, set earlier, AaronAllston Creator/AaronAllston made it a point to expand on those two, making them FauxAffablyEvil, ''very'' intelligent, and quite essential to the plot. Their two-dimensional idiocy became ObfuscatingStupidity, and they actually turned into legitimate (and ''very'' entertaining) threats.
13th Jan '16 8:20:52 PM henry42
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** A major RunningGag for Han Solo was constantly being threatened with death over botched smuggling jobs or unpaid debts; which continued in at least two scenes of ''Film/TheForceAwakens''. [[spoiler: The gag takes on a darker turn in the final battle, where he's killed by Kylo Ren.]]
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