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11th Nov '15 2:24:18 AM eroock
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11th Nov '15 2:23:18 AM eroock
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11th Nov '15 2:19:26 AM eroock
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1st Nov '15 4:54:28 AM eroock
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->''Within the reality of one specific fiction, how do other fictions exist?''
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->''Within ->''"Within the reality of one specific fiction, how do other fictions exist?''exist?"''
28th Jun '15 9:27:13 PM nombretomado
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The answer usually gone with is the simplest one -- things went the same way, but in place of the actor or show that could not exist, it was a ''very similar'' actor or show. This actually appears in ''Film/LastActionHero'', as the image above shows. Jeri Ryan probably moved to Hollywood because she got cast in ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Pegasus: The Geminon Years]]''. Nobody in ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' notices that William Bell looks just like Mr. Spock because, in their universe(s), Spock was played by Creator/ChristopherLee. And so on.
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The answer usually gone with is the simplest one -- things went the same way, but in place of the actor or show that could not exist, it was a ''very similar'' actor or show. This actually appears in ''Film/LastActionHero'', as the image above shows. Jeri Ryan probably moved to Hollywood because she got cast in ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Battlestar Pegasus: The Geminon Years]]''. Nobody in ''Series/{{Fringe}}'' notices that William Bell looks just like Mr. Spock because, in their universe(s), Spock was played by Creator/ChristopherLee. And so on.
6th Jun '15 2:27:52 PM Morgenthaler
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So, in ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'', Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger doesn't exist and is not the governor of California. There's no Guvernator. Or, in the world of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics never existed, and neither did Creator/ChristianBale.
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So, in ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'', ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'', Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger doesn't exist and is not the governor of California. There's no Guvernator. Or, in the world of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics never existed, and neither did Creator/ChristianBale.
6th Jun '15 2:27:10 PM Morgenthaler
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So, in ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'', Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger doesn't exist and is not the governor of California. There's no Guvernator. Or, in the world of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics never existed, and neither did Creator/ChristianBale.
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So, in ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'', ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'', Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger doesn't exist and is not the governor of California. There's no Guvernator. Or, in the world of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics never existed, and neither did Creator/ChristianBale.
22nd Mar '15 3:01:03 PM eroock
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-->--'''Chuck Klosterman'''
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-->--'''Chuck -->-- '''Chuck Klosterman'''
1st Mar '15 11:12:51 AM Pastykake
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So, in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'', Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger doesn't exist and is not the governor of California. There's no Guvernator. Or, in the world of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics never existed, and neither did Creator/ChristianBale.
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So, in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'', ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles'', Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger doesn't exist and is not the governor of California. There's no Guvernator. Or, in the world of ''Film/BatmanBegins'', the Franchise/{{Batman}} comics never existed, and neither did Creator/ChristianBale.

This avoids such awkward issues as why the plucky hero isn't constantly asked for autographs. It can become extremely awkward when the show is set amongst the showbiz industry, and the stars and writers become famous enough to be on the scene where the show finds itself. Also, if a larger-than-life celebrity was chosen to play a nerd, a geek, or a loser (for example, Music/HilaryDuff in ''Film/ACinderellaStory'') -- that would also be extremely awkward. To what extent this is done is a subject for discussions amongst fans. Do the actors themselves not exist? Do other works the actors have appeared in exist? If they do, who starred in them? It's probably best not [[BellisariosMaxim to overthink]] these, but some impulsive connections are bound to occur. If taken far enough, such speculation can overlap with the LiteraryAgentHypothesis. (In fact the LiteraryAgentHypothesis may be the best way out of the paradox: the Tenth Doctor doesn't ''actually'' look like Creator/DavidTennant any more than Film/ErinBrockovich really looks like Creator/JuliaRoberts.)
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This avoids such awkward issues as why the plucky hero isn't constantly asked for autographs. It can become extremely awkward when the show is set amongst the showbiz industry, and the stars and writers become famous enough to be on the scene where the show finds itself. Also, if a larger-than-life celebrity was were chosen to play a nerd, a geek, or a loser (for example, Music/HilaryDuff in ''Film/ACinderellaStory'') -- ''Film/ACinderellaStory''), that would also be extremely awkward. To what extent this is done is a subject for discussions amongst fans. Do the actors themselves not exist? Do other works the actors have appeared in exist? If they do, who starred in them? It's probably best not to [[BellisariosMaxim to overthink]] these, but some impulsive connections are bound to occur. If taken far enough, such speculation can overlap with the LiteraryAgentHypothesis. (In fact fact, the LiteraryAgentHypothesis may be the best way out of the paradox: the Tenth Doctor doesn't ''actually'' look like Creator/DavidTennant any more than Film/ErinBrockovich really looks like Creator/JuliaRoberts.)
8th Feb '15 1:55:00 AM Morgenthaler
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Many a show or movie trying to be hyper-realistic does its best to distill this concept to an extent by refusing to cast a CelebrityStar because he or she is not obscure enough and would be too recognizable, as it strains WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. Of course, if the star ''becomes'' famous because of said work, the same issues could still pop up.
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Many a show or movie trying to be hyper-realistic does its best to distill this concept to an extent by refusing to cast a CelebrityStar because he or she is not obscure enough and would be too recognizable, as it strains WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief. Of course, if the star ''becomes'' famous [[StarMakingRole because of said work, work]], the same issues could still pop up.
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