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19th Aug '16 4:20:40 AM Doug86
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* Many issues of MarvelComics' ''Marvel Team-Up'' comics line cashed in on these kinds of arguments. Want to know if [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]] or [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] is stronger? There's an issue where they fight each other.

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* Many issues of MarvelComics' Creator/MarvelComics' ''Marvel Team-Up'' comics line cashed in on these kinds of arguments. Want to know if the [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]] or [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]] is stronger? There's an issue where they fight each other.



--> I don't care if the {{Hulk}} could defeat [[{{Superman}} the Man of Steel]]\\

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--> I don't care if the {{Hulk}} [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]] could defeat [[{{Superman}} [[Franchise/{{Superman}} the Man of Steel]]\\



* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Sealab 2021}}'', the entire crew of Sealab get caught up in an argument about the hypothetical possibility of transferring their minds into robot bodies. So caught up that they don't notice that all of Sealab's safety systems are catastrophically failing.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Sealab 2021}}'', ''WesternAnimation/Sealab2021'', the entire crew of Sealab get caught up in an argument about the hypothetical possibility of transferring their minds into robot bodies. So caught up that they don't notice that all of Sealab's safety systems are catastrophically failing.
17th Aug '16 2:09:37 AM Vir
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* In one episode of ''{{Sealab 2021}}'', the entire crew of Sealab get caught up in an argument about the hypothetical possibility of transferring their minds into robot bodies. So caught up that they don't notice that all of Sealab's safety systems are catastrophically failing.

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* In one episode of ''{{Sealab ''WesternAnimation/{{Sealab 2021}}'', the entire crew of Sealab get caught up in an argument about the hypothetical possibility of transferring their minds into robot bodies. So caught up that they don't notice that all of Sealab's safety systems are catastrophically failing.



** The episode "The Battle Of Bikini Bottom" begins with two war reenacters explaining to [=SpongeBob=] and Patrick the titular battle, which was apparently fought over ''washing one's hands''[[note]]Keep in mind however that it was ''Patrick'' who said this.[[/note]]. This starts the two friends discussing cleanliness ([=SpongeBob=] is pro-clean, Patrick is not), and soon engage in a battle of their own.

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** The episode "The Battle Of of Bikini Bottom" begins with two war reenacters explaining to [=SpongeBob=] and Patrick the titular battle, which was apparently fought over ''washing one's hands''[[note]]Keep in mind however that it was ''Patrick'' who said this.[[/note]]. This starts the two friends discussing cleanliness ([=SpongeBob=] is pro-clean, Patrick is not), and soon engage in a battle of their own.



* In the ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' episode "Patsies," B&B are recruited to join a teacher's "Positive Acting Teens" and help a group of dorks clean up trash beside a highway. On the way there in the van, B&B make their "this sucks" faces while a couple of the dorks argue about which would be better--[[Characters/StarTrekTheNextGeneration making Data human or curing Geordi of his blindness]].

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead'' episode "Patsies," B&B are recruited to join a teacher's "Positive Acting Teens" and help a group of dorks clean up trash beside a highway. On the way there in the van, B&B make their "this sucks" faces while a couple of the dorks argue about which would be better--[[Characters/StarTrekTheNextGeneration making Data human or curing Geordi of his blindness]].
6th Aug '16 10:53:08 AM ShorinBJ
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** One episode had the gang argue over which food is the most common in the United States, they looked up the answer and it turned out they were all wrong.

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** One episode had the gang argue over which food is the most common in the United States, States; they looked up the answer and it turned out they were all wrong.wrong.
** On another occasion, there is a passionate argument over whether the name of the actor who played the main character in ''Film/StandAndDeliver'' was Edward James Olmos or Jacob Jame Olmos.
31st Jul '16 8:29:36 AM nombretomado
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* DCComics had to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings shut down comments on their blog]] due to a flame war over whether Franchise/{{Superman}} or Franchise/TheFlash was faster.

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* DCComics Creator/DCComics had to [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings shut down comments on their blog]] due to a flame war over whether Franchise/{{Superman}} or Franchise/TheFlash was faster.
7th Jul '16 1:43:33 PM Willbyr
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* In OnePiece when Buggy reveals that he knows Shanks we get a flashback to his days on Gold Roger's ship alongside Shanks. The very first scene we see is Shanks and Buggy literally at each other's necks arguing over whether the North Pole or South Pole is colder all the while the other crew members cheerfully egg them on. The argument is broken up when Rayleigh cuffs both of them and exasperatedly states that [[LampshadeHanging nobody cares which pole is colder]], it's implied that Shanks and Buggy get up to this sort of thing ''a lot''.

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* In OnePiece ''Manga/OnePiece'' when Buggy reveals that he knows Shanks we get a flashback to his days on Gold Roger's ship alongside Shanks. The very first scene we see is Shanks and Buggy literally at each other's necks arguing over whether the North Pole or South Pole is colder all the while the other crew members cheerfully egg them on. The argument is broken up when Rayleigh cuffs both of them and exasperatedly states that [[LampshadeHanging nobody cares which pole is colder]], it's implied that Shanks and Buggy get up to this sort of thing ''a lot''.
30th Jun '16 3:24:48 PM Anddrix
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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision—just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.

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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision—just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.
29th Jun '16 4:32:10 AM AnonBiblophile
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* In OnePiece when Buggy reveals that he knows Shanks we get a flashback to his days on Gold Roger's ship alongside Shanks. The very first scene we see is Shanks and Buggy literally at each other's necks arguing over whether the North Pole or South Pole is colder all the while the other crew members cheerfully egg them on. The argument is broken up when Rayleigh cuffs both of them and exasperatedly states that [[LampshadeHanging nobody cares which pole is colder]], it's implied that Shanks and Buggy get up to this sort of thing ''a lot''.
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19th Jun '16 10:26:40 AM Ebrbfureh
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-->-- ''Series/{{Angel}}'', "A Hole in the World"

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-->-- -->— ''Series/{{Angel}}'', "A Hole in the World"



Needless to say, TruthInTelevision - just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.

This is when a SeinfeldianConversation becomes SeriousBusiness. When it happens in RealLife -- YouTube comments in particular are full of these -- it will usually be because the combatants are people with an extremely fragile sense of self worth, and they view their opinion as a source of validation. In other words, they think that if they're wrong (or if someone else disagrees with them) about whether SpiderMan's costume is made of nylon or spandex, it lessens their inherent degree of value as a human being.

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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision - just TruthInTelevision—just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.

This is when a SeinfeldianConversation becomes SeriousBusiness. When it happens in RealLife -- YouTube RealLife—YouTube comments in particular are full of these -- it these—it will usually be because the combatants are people with an extremely fragile sense of self worth, and they view their opinion as a source of validation. In other words, they think that if they're wrong (or if someone else disagrees with them) about whether SpiderMan's costume is made of nylon or spandex, it lessens their inherent degree of value as a human being.



* Hank and Davis of ''Series/CornerGas'' apparently have a long-standing debate over who is cooler - Darth Maul or Darth Vader. Davis supports the Vader side and staunchly believes that everyone just thinks Darth Maul is cool because he has a double lightsaber.

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* Hank and Davis of ''Series/CornerGas'' apparently have a long-standing debate over who is cooler - Darth cooler—Darth Maul or Darth Vader. Davis supports the Vader side and staunchly believes that everyone just thinks Darth Maul is cool because he has a double lightsaber.



*** Perhaps the silliest: what nationality is [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy]]? [[note]]It's not ''entirely'' silly, as - with the exception of the Pyro - every other character has a clear national stereotype.[[/note]] The edit wars went on for ''months'' before "Meet The Spy" finally settled the issue with a canon answer: "French".

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*** Perhaps the silliest: what nationality is [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy]]? [[note]]It's not ''entirely'' silly, as - with as—with the exception of the Pyro - every Pyro—every other character has a clear national stereotype.[[/note]] The edit wars went on for ''months'' before "Meet The Spy" finally settled the issue with a canon answer: "French".



* Similarly, the makers of Jaffa Cakes went to court in the UK to prove that they are actually cakes, which aren't taxed in the UK, rather than biscuits which are (but only if they have chocolate on them: that means that they're considered luxury items - unlike cakes, apparently). No, it doesn't really make sense. The company managed to prove that Jaffa Cakes are indeed cakes by A: Showing that Jaffa Cakes, like other cakes, will go stale if left out (if they were biscuits they would go soft) and B: Making an extra large Jaffa Cake which was then served as a regular cake. That hasn't stopped debates raging up and down the country; tea and biscuits (or cakes) really are SeriousBusiness in Britain. As silly it looks for an average person, for multinational companies product classifications may translate to millions in taxes and customs. (This also led to the [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305938/McVities-launches-The-Big-One-Jaffa-Cake-decades-beating-taxman-landmark-VAT-battle.html "Big One"]], a cake-sized Jaffa Cake you can buy.)

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* Similarly, the makers of Jaffa Cakes went to court in the UK to prove that they are actually cakes, which aren't taxed in the UK, rather than biscuits which are (but only if they have chocolate on them: that means that they're considered luxury items - unlike items—unlike cakes, apparently). No, it doesn't really make sense. The company managed to prove that Jaffa Cakes are indeed cakes by A: Showing that Jaffa Cakes, like other cakes, will go stale if left out (if they were biscuits they would go soft) and B: Making an extra large Jaffa Cake which was then served as a regular cake. That hasn't stopped debates raging up and down the country; tea and biscuits (or cakes) really are SeriousBusiness in Britain. As silly it looks for an average person, for multinational companies product classifications may translate to millions in taxes and customs. (This also led to the [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305938/McVities-launches-The-Big-One-Jaffa-Cake-decades-beating-taxman-landmark-VAT-battle.html "Big One"]], a cake-sized Jaffa Cake you can buy.)
15th Jun '16 6:09:27 AM Prfnoff
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* According to ''Literature/TheDevilsDictionary'', UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}'s "industrial and commercial development has been unspeakably retarded by an unfortunate dispute among geographers as to whether it is a continent or island."
3rd Jun '16 11:42:20 AM DaibhidC
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Homer at the Bat", Wade Boggs is knocked out cold by Barney after the two argue over who's the best British Prime Minister of all time.
-->'''Barney:''' And I say England's greatest Prime Minister was Lord Palmerston!\\

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
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In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' the episode "Homer at the Bat", Wade Boggs is knocked out cold by Barney after the two argue over who's the best British Prime Minister of all time.
-->'''Barney:''' --->'''Barney:''' And I say England's greatest Prime Minister was Lord Palmerston!\\


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** In "Regarding Margie" Sideshow Mel and Captain [=MacAlistair=] are fighting over what the most delicious kind of cherry is, while balanced on Bumblebee Man and Duff Man's shoulders.
--->'''Sideshow Mel''': Maraschino isn't even a kind of cherry! It's a way of preserving them!
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