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30th Jun '16 3:24:48 PM Anddrix
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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision—just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.

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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision—just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.
29th Jun '16 4:32:10 AM AnonBiblophile
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* In OnePiece when Buggy reveals that he knows Shanks we get a flashback to his days on Gold Roger's ship alongside Shanks. The very first scene we see is Shanks and Buggy literally at each other's necks arguing over whether the North Pole or South Pole is colder all the while the other crew members cheerfully egg them on. The argument is broken up when Rayleigh cuffs both of them and exasperatedly states that [[LampshadeHanging nobody cares which pole is colder]], it's implied that Shanks and Buggy get up to this sort of thing ''a lot''.
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19th Jun '16 10:26:40 AM Ebrbfureh
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-->-- ''Series/{{Angel}}'', "A Hole in the World"

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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision - just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.

This is when a SeinfeldianConversation becomes SeriousBusiness. When it happens in RealLife -- YouTube comments in particular are full of these -- it will usually be because the combatants are people with an extremely fragile sense of self worth, and they view their opinion as a source of validation. In other words, they think that if they're wrong (or if someone else disagrees with them) about whether SpiderMan's costume is made of nylon or spandex, it lessens their inherent degree of value as a human being.

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Needless to say, TruthInTelevision - just TruthInTelevision—just see BrokenBase for a number of media-centric examples (also see UnpleasableFanbase and BaseBreaker, though we don't keep examples for those anymore). Frequently overlaps with HypotheticalFightDebate, the UsefulNotes/{{Console|Wars}} and UsefulNotes/ComputerWars, and ShipToShipCombat.

This is when a SeinfeldianConversation becomes SeriousBusiness. When it happens in RealLife -- YouTube RealLife—YouTube comments in particular are full of these -- it these—it will usually be because the combatants are people with an extremely fragile sense of self worth, and they view their opinion as a source of validation. In other words, they think that if they're wrong (or if someone else disagrees with them) about whether SpiderMan's costume is made of nylon or spandex, it lessens their inherent degree of value as a human being.



* Hank and Davis of ''Series/CornerGas'' apparently have a long-standing debate over who is cooler - Darth Maul or Darth Vader. Davis supports the Vader side and staunchly believes that everyone just thinks Darth Maul is cool because he has a double lightsaber.

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* Hank and Davis of ''Series/CornerGas'' apparently have a long-standing debate over who is cooler - Darth cooler—Darth Maul or Darth Vader. Davis supports the Vader side and staunchly believes that everyone just thinks Darth Maul is cool because he has a double lightsaber.



*** Perhaps the silliest: what nationality is [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy]]? [[note]]It's not ''entirely'' silly, as - with the exception of the Pyro - every other character has a clear national stereotype.[[/note]] The edit wars went on for ''months'' before "Meet The Spy" finally settled the issue with a canon answer: "French".

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*** Perhaps the silliest: what nationality is [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Spy]]? [[note]]It's not ''entirely'' silly, as - with as—with the exception of the Pyro - every Pyro—every other character has a clear national stereotype.[[/note]] The edit wars went on for ''months'' before "Meet The Spy" finally settled the issue with a canon answer: "French".



* Similarly, the makers of Jaffa Cakes went to court in the UK to prove that they are actually cakes, which aren't taxed in the UK, rather than biscuits which are (but only if they have chocolate on them: that means that they're considered luxury items - unlike cakes, apparently). No, it doesn't really make sense. The company managed to prove that Jaffa Cakes are indeed cakes by A: Showing that Jaffa Cakes, like other cakes, will go stale if left out (if they were biscuits they would go soft) and B: Making an extra large Jaffa Cake which was then served as a regular cake. That hasn't stopped debates raging up and down the country; tea and biscuits (or cakes) really are SeriousBusiness in Britain. As silly it looks for an average person, for multinational companies product classifications may translate to millions in taxes and customs. (This also led to the [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305938/McVities-launches-The-Big-One-Jaffa-Cake-decades-beating-taxman-landmark-VAT-battle.html "Big One"]], a cake-sized Jaffa Cake you can buy.)

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* Similarly, the makers of Jaffa Cakes went to court in the UK to prove that they are actually cakes, which aren't taxed in the UK, rather than biscuits which are (but only if they have chocolate on them: that means that they're considered luxury items - unlike items—unlike cakes, apparently). No, it doesn't really make sense. The company managed to prove that Jaffa Cakes are indeed cakes by A: Showing that Jaffa Cakes, like other cakes, will go stale if left out (if they were biscuits they would go soft) and B: Making an extra large Jaffa Cake which was then served as a regular cake. That hasn't stopped debates raging up and down the country; tea and biscuits (or cakes) really are SeriousBusiness in Britain. As silly it looks for an average person, for multinational companies product classifications may translate to millions in taxes and customs. (This also led to the [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305938/McVities-launches-The-Big-One-Jaffa-Cake-decades-beating-taxman-landmark-VAT-battle.html "Big One"]], a cake-sized Jaffa Cake you can buy.)
15th Jun '16 6:09:27 AM Prfnoff
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* According to ''Literature/TheDevilsDictionary'', UsefulNotes/{{Australia}}'s "industrial and commercial development has been unspeakably retarded by an unfortunate dispute among geographers as to whether it is a continent or island."
3rd Jun '16 11:42:20 AM DaibhidC
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Homer at the Bat", Wade Boggs is knocked out cold by Barney after the two argue over who's the best British Prime Minister of all time.
-->'''Barney:''' And I say England's greatest Prime Minister was Lord Palmerston!\\

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
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In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' the episode "Homer at the Bat", Wade Boggs is knocked out cold by Barney after the two argue over who's the best British Prime Minister of all time.
-->'''Barney:''' --->'''Barney:''' And I say England's greatest Prime Minister was Lord Palmerston!\\


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** In "Regarding Margie" Sideshow Mel and Captain [=MacAlistair=] are fighting over what the most delicious kind of cherry is, while balanced on Bumblebee Man and Duff Man's shoulders.
--->'''Sideshow Mel''': Maraschino isn't even a kind of cherry! It's a way of preserving them!
3rd Jun '16 11:29:48 AM DaibhidC
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* The ''Series/JonathanCreek'' episode "The Three Gamblers", which has a HollywoodVoodoo theme, has one scene open with Jonathan and Maddie in Maddies car and barely speaking after a furious row. It turns out they disagree about the exact [[{{Scatting}} meaningless words]] in the chorus of the novelty song "The Witch Doctor".

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* The ''Series/JonathanCreek'' episode "The Three Gamblers", which has a HollywoodVoodoo theme, has one scene open with Jonathan and Maddie in Maddies car and barely speaking after a furious row. It turns out they disagree about the exact [[{{Scatting}} meaningless words]] in the chorus of the novelty song "The Witch Doctor".
3rd Jun '16 11:29:09 AM DaibhidC
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* The ''Series/JonathanCreek'' episode "The Three Gamblers", which has a HollywoodVoodoo theme, has one scene open with Jonathan and Maddie in Maddies car and barely speaking after a furious row. It turns out they disagree about the exact [[{{Scatting}} meaningless words]] in the chorus of the novelty song "The Witch Doctor".
25th May '16 6:41:37 PM SAMAS
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' the Inklings have entire large scale celebrations called Splatfests solely dedicated to taking simple debates like dogs vs. cats, rock vs. pop, or lemon tea vs. milk tea, and having people from both sides deciding who's better via nighttime ink battles, complete with an all-night party and religious undertones through the CargoCult fax machine used to announce them.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' the Inklings have entire large scale celebrations called Splatfests solely dedicated to taking simple debates like dogs vs. cats, rock vs. pop, or lemon tea vs. milk tea, sandcastles vs. snowmen or [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Autobots vs. Decepticons]] and having people from both sides deciding who's better via nighttime ink battles, complete with an all-night party and religious undertones through the CargoCult fax machine used to announce them.
19th May '16 8:59:16 AM Doug86
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* One ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' book informs us that, when they were younger, Jake and Marco would spend entire afternoons arguing about whether or not cheese tastes yellow (Marco thought it tasted sorta green). Now that they're older, they have more serious, adult debates, like Who Would Win: Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}} or Franchise/{{Batman}}?

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* One ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' book informs us that, when they were younger, Jake and Marco would spend entire afternoons arguing about whether or not cheese tastes yellow (Marco thought it tasted sorta green). Now that they're older, they have more serious, adult debates, like Who Would Win: Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}} Comicbook/SpiderMan or Franchise/{{Batman}}?
10th May '16 4:53:24 AM BillyHorrible
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** Troy and Abed had an argument if having giant ears or a tail would be better, walking into the study room and asking the others, only then realising that a different group was using the study room. They then have the other group cast votes.
** More examples can be thought of and it is implied that the group has meaningless arguments like this even off-screen:
-->'''Britta:'''Will anyone back me up if I say this is ridiculous, or is it going to be [[NoodleIncident another Avatar situation]]?
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