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17th Sep '17 11:38:32 AM nombretomado
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Note that when cats just are ''not'' mean in some cases, that's {{not a subversion}}. Also, if the story features only cats and some happen to be the bad guys, that isn't this trope.

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Note that when cats just are ''not'' mean in some cases, that's {{not a subversion}}.Administrivia/NotASubversion. Also, if the story features only cats and some happen to be the bad guys, that isn't this trope.
13th Sep '17 1:15:55 PM Lovetheclassics72
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* ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget'' Dr. Claw's cat Mad cat definately fits this,
9th Sep '17 4:55:51 PM Khrunwahl02
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** Garfield is a strange case. He'll squash sentient spiders without a second thought, he'll kick Odie off the table, and he'll abuse Jon in many creative ways (although [[http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2002/ga021102.gif Jon doesn't know]]... [[http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/1992/ga920121.gif or does he?]]) like stealing Jon's dinner, hitting Jon in the head with his food bowl to indicate he's hungry, biting Jon's arm, locking Jon outside the house in the worst situations possible (e.g. Jon's wearing only underwear, Jon's in bunny pajamas, Jon is naked) and at one point even [[https://garfield.com/comic/2003/11/09 slipped a Habanero pepper in Jon's eclair and then shut off the entire water system in the house with just a wrench]]. But, at least in the [[WesternAnimation/GarfieldAndFriends series]] and animated specials, he's a hero who will go out of the way to save his friends. If anything, he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. In one strip, Garfield admits that the reason he doesn't like dogs is because dogs are so ''friendly''. (Meaning friendly to the point of cloying.) Of course, Garfield has met his fair share of dogs that are downright mean.

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** Garfield is a strange case. He'll squash sentient spiders without a second thought, he'll kick Odie off the table, and he'll abuse Jon in many creative ways (although [[http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2002/ga021102.gif Jon doesn't know]]... [[http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/1992/ga920121.gif or does he?]]) like stealing Jon's dinner, hitting Jon in the head with his food bowl to indicate he's hungry, biting Jon's arm, locking Jon outside the house in the worst situations possible (e.g. Jon's wearing only underwear, Jon's in bunny pajamas, [[NakedPeopleTrappedOutside Jon is naked) naked]]) and at one point he even [[https://garfield.com/comic/2003/11/09 slipped a Habanero pepper in Jon's eclair and then shut off the entire water system in the house with just a wrench]]. But, at least in the [[WesternAnimation/GarfieldAndFriends series]] and animated specials, he's a hero who will go out of the way to save his friends. If anything, he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. In one strip, Garfield admits that the reason he doesn't like dogs is because dogs are so ''friendly''. (Meaning friendly to the point of cloying.) Of course, Garfield has met his fair share of dogs that are downright mean.
6th Sep '17 12:34:01 AM PaulA
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* In the works of Creator/HPLovecraft, the cats of Ulthar are sentient and helpful to those who deserve it, but also cryptic and very dangerous. In the novella ''Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath'', the cats help hero Randolph Carter and make war with the evil zoogs. In the short story "The Cats of Ulhar", they slaughter a pair of villains out of revenge. Lovecraft himself was a cat-lover who believed that they are connected to ancient mysteries.
** Lovecraft has a somewhat more obvious aversion in the early story "The Rats in the Walls", where the cat's agitation and natural animosity with the rats (here clearly an evil force) makes them good and very useful for the suspense. Alas, it also demonstrates [=HPL's=] severe ValuesDissonance by having the unfortunate name "Nigger-Man".
*** There is also "Cats and Dogs", a rather lenghty essay where Lovecraft methodically argues which animal he thinks is the superior pet, and what does he thinks of the kind of person who owns them. Be aware, don't read it if you are a canine lover!

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* Creator/HPLovecraft:
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In the works of Creator/HPLovecraft, Dream Lands cycle, the cats of Ulthar are sentient and helpful to those who deserve it, but also cryptic and very dangerous. In the novella ''Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath'', ''Literature/TheDreamQuestOfUnknownKadath'', the cats help hero Randolph Carter and make war with the evil zoogs. In the short story "The Cats of Ulhar", "Literature/TheCatsOfUlthar", they slaughter a pair of villains out of revenge. Lovecraft himself was a cat-lover who believed that they are connected to ancient mysteries.
** Lovecraft has a somewhat more obvious aversion in the early story "The Rats in the Walls", "Literature/TheRatsInTheWalls", where the cat's agitation and natural animosity with the rats (here clearly an evil force) makes them good and very useful for the suspense. Alas, it also demonstrates [=HPL's=] severe ValuesDissonance by having the unfortunate name "Nigger-Man".
*** ** There is also "Cats and Dogs", a rather lenghty essay where Lovecraft methodically argues which animal he thinks is the superior pet, and what does he thinks of the kind of person who owns them. Be aware, don't read it if you are a canine lover!
5th Sep '17 8:58:27 PM Wildstar93
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* In ''Series/TheWalkingDead'', Shiva the tiger (King Ezekiel's loyal feline companion) averts this for the most part, giving [[TheLancer Daryl]] a gentle lick on the hand when she meets him for example. But when she's up against enemies, she'll play this trope straight, [[BigDamnHeroes saving Carl from an execution]] by mauling his would-be executioner.
3rd Sep '17 1:16:39 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Subverted in the AmeliaPeabody series, where the cat Bastet (always referred to as "the cat Bastet" in full) and her daughter, Sekhmet, are somewhat snarky in behavior, but about as useful and familiar-like as cats can be in non-fantasy fiction.

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* Subverted in the AmeliaPeabody ''Literature/AmeliaPeabody'' series, where the cat Bastet (always referred to as "the cat Bastet" in full) and her daughter, Sekhmet, are somewhat snarky in behavior, but about as useful and familiar-like as cats can be in non-fantasy fiction.
30th Aug '17 1:23:24 PM ElSquibbonator
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* In an interview about the [[''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' 2010 remake of Disney's ''Alice in Wonderland'']], Tim Burton claimed that his [[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/tim-burton-says-hello-kitty-cheshire-cat-taps-into-my-hatred-of-cats/ dislike of cats]] is why the Cheshire Cat is so much more creepy and unsettling in this version than the original animated movie. He still isn't a villain, though, instead filling the same ChaoticNeutral role he did in the original. The Bandersnatch, which is portrayed as an ugly, scraggly-haired, leopard-like creature, also counts as a subversion, since it starts out serving the Red Queen but later joins Alice.

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* In an interview about the [[''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' 2010 remake of Disney's ''Alice in Wonderland'']], ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' , Tim Burton claimed that his [[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/tim-burton-says-hello-kitty-cheshire-cat-taps-into-my-hatred-of-cats/ dislike of cats]] is why the Cheshire Cat is so much more creepy and unsettling in this version than the original animated movie. He still isn't a villain, though, instead filling the same ChaoticNeutral role he did in the original. The Bandersnatch, which is portrayed as an ugly, scraggly-haired, leopard-like creature, also counts as a subversion, since it starts out serving the Red Queen but later joins Alice.
30th Aug '17 1:12:34 PM ElSquibbonator
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Domestic dogs are rarely portrayed as evil unless the setting specifically only features dogs and antagonists are needed. A negative portrayal of dogs is usually light, treating them as [[DogsAreDumb simply dumb]] and servile (and fiercely territorial); the occasional [[AngryGuardDog evil tear-'em-to-pieces junkyard dog]] or {{Hellhound}} is an exception. When they are genuinely annoying, this characteristic is given to [[MisterMuffykins stereotypical small yappy breeds]] that reflect their owners. In real life, it says more about a dog's training.

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Domestic dogs are rarely portrayed as evil unless the setting cast specifically only features dogs and antagonists are needed. A negative portrayal of dogs is usually light, treating them as [[DogsAreDumb simply dumb]] and servile (and fiercely territorial); the occasional tropes of the [[AngryGuardDog evil tear-'em-to-pieces junkyard dog]] or and the {{Hellhound}} is an exception.being the obvious exceptions. When they are genuinely annoying, this characteristic is given to [[MisterMuffykins stereotypical small yappy breeds]] that reflect their owners. In real life, it says more about a dog's training.
30th Aug '17 1:08:22 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Rumor has it that Creator/WaltDisney hated cats (and praised mice and dogs, the two mortal enemies of cats, though another rumor states that he was actually afraid of real mice, so make of that what you will). Among the ways cats are portrayed in Creator/{{Disney}} animation:

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* Rumor has it that Creator/WaltDisney hated cats (and praised mice and dogs, the two mortal classic enemies of cats, cats in cartoons, though another rumor states that he was actually afraid of real mice, so make of that what you will). Among the ways cats are portrayed in Creator/{{Disney}} animation:



* ''Anime/SailorMoon'' subverts this with Luna and Artemis who are kind and help the heroes, though they still aren't above being incredibly blunt. Diana, on the other hand, is just plain kind to everyone.

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* ''Anime/SailorMoon'' subverts averts this with Luna and Artemis who are kind and help the heroes, though they still aren't above being incredibly blunt. Diana, on the other hand, is just plain kind to everyone.



* ''Manga/ChisSweetHome'' is all about this. A curious little kitten shares her take on day to day events.

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* ''Manga/ChisSweetHome'' is all about this.averting this trope. A curious little kitten shares her take on day to day events.



** Over the course of the anime, a number of major and minor protagonists have owned feline Pokemon. These include [[CuteKitten May's Skitty]], [[RetiredBadass Johanna's Glameow]], [[FriendlyRivalry Tyson's Meowth]], and [[KingOfBeasts Clemont's Luxray]].

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** Over the course of the anime, a number of major and minor protagonists have owned feline Pokemon. These include [[CuteKitten May's aforementioned Skitty]], [[RetiredBadass Johanna's Glameow]], [[FriendlyRivalry Tyson's Meowth]], and [[KingOfBeasts Clemont's Luxray]].Luxray]] and most recently [[AscendedExtra Ash's Litten]].
30th Aug '17 12:59:43 PM ElSquibbonator
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*** On the other hand, ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'' is one of the few Disney films that has a "Good/Nice Cat": Figaro. See under "Subversions..." heading below.
** Scar from ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Interestingly, he's the ''only'' character that lives up to this trope as all the other lions in the film are quite noble. Of course, the sequel has Zira who also plays the trope straight and attempted to manipulate her son, Kuvo into this as well.

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*** On the other hand, ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'' is one of the few Disney films produced during Walt's lifetime that has a "Good/Nice Cat": truly nice cat: Figaro. See under "Subversions..." heading below.
** Scar from ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Interestingly, ''Disney/TheLionKing'' deserves a mention. Of course, he's the ''only'' character that lives up to this trope as all the other lions in the film are quite noble. Of course, the sequel has Zira who also plays the trope straight and attempted to manipulate her son, Kuvo into this as well.



* In Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', the farm cat is lazy, greedy, and self-serving (she's last seen 'helpfully' volunteering to teach the mice Animalism).
* Since ''Literature/WatershipDown'' has rabbits as its protagonists, the cats are indeed scary antagonists ("Can you run? I think not!"). Dogs (and foxes), by contrast, are just contemptible and disgusting. (The culture-hero El-ahrairah sets one up for a thorough HumiliationConga.) That said, [[TheHero Hazel]] manages to embarrass a cat into giving up chasing him, and Bigwig beats one in a fight and [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower trains the whole warren to be able to do the same]].

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* In Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', the farm cat is lazy, greedy, and self-serving (she's last seen 'helpfully' volunteering to teach the mice Animalism).
Animalism). Of course, since the whole story is a metaphor for the Stalinist Soviet Union, whether that makes her a villain or not is up in the air.
* Since ''Literature/WatershipDown'' has rabbits as its protagonists, the cats are indeed scary antagonists ("Can you run? I think not!"). Dogs (and foxes), by contrast, are just contemptible and disgusting. (The culture-hero El-ahrairah sets one up for a thorough HumiliationConga.) That said, [[TheHero Hazel]] manages to embarrass a cat into giving up chasing him, and Bigwig beats one in a fight and [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower trains the whole warren to be able to do the same]]. There's an aspect of TruthInTelevision to this: cats normally focus on smaller prey such as mice, while rabbits are often the targets of hunters who use dogs. Thus, from a rabbit's perspective, dogs would indeed seem more threatening.



* Referenced in ''Literature/SurvivorDogs''. The dogs are the protagonists while ''sharpclaws'' are very minor characters. Dogs have a bad opinion on ''sharpclaws'', thinking they're sadistic and annoying.

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* Referenced in ''Literature/SurvivorDogs''. The dogs are the protagonists while ''sharpclaws'' are very minor characters. Dogs have a bad opinion on ''sharpclaws'', thinking they're sadistic and annoying. Incidentally, this series is by the creators of ''Literature/WarriorCats'', which averts this trope.



* A demonic-looking lion shows up in ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'', along with [[BearsAreBadNews a similarly demonic-looking bear.]]

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* A demonic-looking lion shows up in ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'', along with [[BearsAreBadNews a similarly demonic-looking bear.]]]] They don't actually do anything evil, though.


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* In an interview about the [[''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' 2010 remake of Disney's ''Alice in Wonderland'']], Tim Burton claimed that his [[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/tim-burton-says-hello-kitty-cheshire-cat-taps-into-my-hatred-of-cats/ dislike of cats]] is why the Cheshire Cat is so much more creepy and unsettling in this version than the original animated movie. He still isn't a villain, though, instead filling the same ChaoticNeutral role he did in the original. The Bandersnatch, which is portrayed as an ugly, scraggly-haired, leopard-like creature, also counts as a subversion, since it starts out serving the Red Queen but later joins Alice.
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