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22nd Aug '16 8:03:38 PM Prometheus117
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** ''VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma'' follows in ''Continuum Shift''[='=]s footsteps. The original game came first, then a patch for the additional characters, and then finally a new patch given a full retail release. The next major overhaul is called "''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralfiction BlazBlue: Centralfiction]]''".

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** ''VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma'' follows in ''Continuum Shift''[='=]s footsteps. The original game came first, then a patch for the additional characters, and then finally a new patch called ''Chronophantasma Extend'' that was several extra story campaigns plus, for Western audiences, [[NoExportForYou the previously exclusive Library Mode]] all given in a full retail release. The Thankfully, that was the only re-release before the next major overhaul is called "''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralfiction BlazBlue: Centralfiction]]''".game, ''VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralfiction''.
12th Aug '16 1:37:43 PM RacattackForce
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* The ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' series does not do this extensively, but it does this consistently. Game Freak's pattern of releasing [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo two virtually identical games at once]], then releasing a [[UpdatedRerelease third nearly-identical-but-with-a-couple-bonuses game]] a little later has been repeated over and over and they have been doing [[VideoGameRemake updated remakes]] of older games as well. In the U.S., we got: ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red and Blue]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Yellow]]'' a bit later[[note]]In Japan, the original releases were ''Red'' and ''Green'', followed by ''Blue'' and finally ''Yellow'', making it so Japan got four games and other countries got three.[[/note]]; ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold and Silver]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Crystal]]'' a bit later; ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Ruby and Sapphire]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Emerald]]'' a bit later; ''[[VideoGameRemake FireRed and LeafGreen]]'' (updated versions of ''Red/Blue/Yellow''); ''[[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Diamond and Pearl]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Platinum]]'' a bit later; ''[[VideoGameRemake HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'' (updated versions of ''Gold/Silver/Crystal''); and now ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite.'' That is about 5 unique plotlines spread across 18 games!
** The two near-identical games are {{justified|Trope}}, because OneHundredPercentCompletion [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo requires trading with the other version]] - a mechanic that the Japanese love, but became a ScrappyMechanic outside of Japan, making it a case of AmericansHateTingle.
** On the note of the updated ''Fire Red/Leaf Green'' and ''Heart Gold/Soul Silver'', it's worth noting that at the time of their release, many of the pokemon in their respective "catalogues" were otherwise unavailable in that generation without the use of hacks, so their rerelease is justified. Now, whether or not you can say the same for the upcoming ''Ruby/Sapphire'' remakes is still up in the air.
** Game Freak is shaking things up in the handheld main series with ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Black and White]]'' ''2''. Yes, a NumberedSequel instead of an UpdatedRerelease. Apart from the plot, the games still fill the same role as a hypothetical ''Grey'' version would have[[note]]and even the plot incorporates some of the elements that presumably would have been present in ''Grey'', namely a focus on Kyurem over Reshiram and Zekrom[[/note]].

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* The ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' series does not do this extensively, but it does has this consistently. Game Freak's pattern of releasing [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo two virtually identical games at once]], then releasing a [[UpdatedRerelease third nearly-identical-but-with-a-couple-bonuses game]] a little later has been repeated over and over and they have been doing [[VideoGameRemake updated remakes]] of older games as well. In Since the U.S., we got: first generation, we've had: ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red and Blue]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Yellow]]'' a bit later[[note]]In Japan, the original releases were ''Red'' and ''Green'', followed by ''Blue'' and finally ''Yellow'', making it so Japan got four games and other countries got three.[[/note]]; ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold and Silver]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Crystal]]'' a bit later; Crystal]]''; ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Ruby and Sapphire]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Emerald]]'' a bit later; Emerald]]'', followed by ''[[VideoGameRemake FireRed and LeafGreen]]'' (updated versions of ''Red/Blue/Yellow''); ''[[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Diamond and Pearl]]'', then ''[[UpdatedRerelease Platinum]]'' a bit later; Platinum]]'', followed by ''[[VideoGameRemake HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'' (updated versions of ''Gold/Silver/Crystal''); and now ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite.'' ''Gold/Silver/Crystal''). That is about 5 4 unique plotlines spread across 18 16 games!
** The two near-identical games are {{justified|Trope}}, because OneHundredPercentCompletion [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo requires trading with the other version]] - a mechanic that the Japanese love, but became a ScrappyMechanic outside of Japan, making it a case of AmericansHateTingle.
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AmericansHateTingle. Meanwhile, the note of the updated ''Fire Red/Leaf Green'' and ''Heart Gold/Soul Silver'', it's worth noting that at the time of their release, many of the pokemon in their respective "catalogues" were otherwise remakes are justified due to some Pokemon being unavailable in that generation alone without the use of hacks, so their rerelease is justified. Now, whether or not you can say hacks -- the same for third generation in particular lacked the upcoming ''Ruby/Sapphire'' remakes is still up in "previous gen" backwards compatibility that all other generations host, meaning that getting ''[=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=] (and some spin-off titles) really was the air.
only way to complete the Pokedex.
** Game Freak is shaking things up in began to move away from the handheld main series UpdatedRerelease formula with ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Black and White]]'' ''2''. Yes, a NumberedSequel instead of an UpdatedRerelease. Apart Though apart from the plot, the games still fill the same role as a hypothetical ''Grey'' version. The company also surprised the fandom entirely when they didn't have either in the sixth generation, choosing to move onwards to the seventh generation after releasing ''[[VideoGameRemake Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]'' rather than make a ''Z'' version would have[[note]]and even the plot incorporates some of the elements that presumably would have been present in ''Grey'', namely a focus on Kyurem over Reshiram to follow ''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY X and Zekrom[[/note]].Y]]''.
3rd Aug '16 6:31:45 AM Basara-kun
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* ''VideoGame/{{Dead or Alive|5}}'' has gotten into this, big time. The original 2012 release of Dead or Alive 5 was followed by Dead or Alive 5+ for the Vita, Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate, and finally Dead or Alive 5: Last Round. Each update retained the same core engine, menu styles, story mode, and basic gameplay of its predecessor, while adding a few characters and other tweaks, very similar to the Street Fighter II sequels.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Dead or Alive|5}}'' has gotten into this, big time. The original 2012 release of Dead ''Dead or Alive 5 5'' was followed by Dead ''Dead or Alive 5+ 5+'' for the Vita, Dead ''Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate, Ultimate'', and finally Dead ''Dead or Alive 5: Last Round. Round''. Each update retained the same core engine, menu styles, story mode, and basic gameplay of its predecessor, while adding a few characters and other tweaks, very similar to the Street Fighter II sequels.sequels.
** Not to mention ''DOA: Hardcore'' and ''DOA: Hard*Core'', which are updates of ''Dead or Alive 2''. The Dreamcast release already included all the fixed and new things from both updates, as well new stages, costumes and cutscenes.
** And also, there's ''Dead or Alive Ultimate'', an UpdatedRerelease for Xbox with the first 2 games, both of them could be playable onine on Xbox Live: the enhanced UsefulNotes/SegaSaturn version of ''[=DOA1=]'', and ''[=DOA2=]'' with the graphics of ''DOA Xtreme Beach Voleyball'', the gameplay of ''[=DOA3=]'' and the addition of Hitomi as playable character, as well the FinalBoss Tengu as selectable.


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* ''VideoGame/{{ClayFighter}}'' also suffered of this, releasing updates for ''[=CF1=]'' (''Tournament Edition'') and ''[=CF63⅓=]'' (''Sculptor's Cut''.) The former only fixed some bugs and balanced the game and the latter added characters that was left from first release and changed some things, like portraits, lifebars, a new intro and stripped out the ''VideoGame/KillerInstinct''-esque combo system.
10th Jul '16 10:01:43 AM nombretomado
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* {{BioWare}} has re-released countless compilations of ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'' packages, one with each new expansion pack or sequel. ''Gold'', ''Platinum'', ''Diamond''.. ''Diamond'' was not the ultimate collection. ''[=NWN2=]'' and its expansions were then included in more collections. The same happened with older Infinity Engine games also. This is referenced in-universe as well, where Deekin's books about the events of the first game and expansions went through all the same compilations and re-releases as the game itself.

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* {{BioWare}} Creator/BioWare has re-released countless compilations of ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'' packages, one with each new expansion pack or sequel. ''Gold'', ''Platinum'', ''Diamond''.. ''Diamond'' was not the ultimate collection. ''[=NWN2=]'' and its expansions were then included in more collections. The same happened with older Infinity Engine games also. This is referenced in-universe as well, where Deekin's books about the events of the first game and expansions went through all the same compilations and re-releases as the game itself.
2nd Jun '16 9:06:08 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/{{Ys}} I & II'' (despite the title, they're essentially the first two games fused into one complete game) has seen many rereleases over the years, starting with the first version on Turbografx-CD, and then later on getting separate new versions for Windows [=PC=]s, PS2, DS and PSP. However, aside from graphical and audio facelifts, later releases would eventually also have updated gameplay to make them play more like modern Ys games.

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* ''Franchise/{{Ys}} I & II'' (despite the title, they're essentially the first two games fused into one complete game) has seen many rereleases over the years, starting with the first version on Turbografx-CD, and then later on getting separate new versions for Windows [=PC=]s, PS2, [=PS2=], DS and PSP. However, aside from graphical and audio facelifts, later releases would eventually also have updated gameplay to make them play more like modern Ys games.
2nd Jun '16 6:58:43 PM Upgrader
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* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series' first three games are [[IncrediblyLamePun guilty]] of this. The VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy was released on the GBA only in Japan. Years later, a DS version was made of all three games, which were now released internationally. Other than remastered music, improved coloring on the sprites and an added case in the first game which made use of the DS's new features, all three games were more or less the same. Later, all three games were made available on WiiWare, with the only notable difference being that the player can point the Wiimote while shouting [[RuleofCool OBJEC]][[AwesomeButImpractical TION!]] But again, no other significant differences. It's now also on the Appstore (using a free-to-play model where the user must pay for each individual episode save for 1 and 2). Aside from improved graphics, again, no difference. Then all three games were released on the 3DS as ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy''. The graphics were practically identical to the iOS versions, but, once more, no difference.
** It should be noted, however, that with the exception of the DS updated version of the first game with the new case, none of these ports were made with the intention of making people buy the games again, but rather to have the titles still be in the market when their home consoles became outdated.

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* The ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series' first three games are [[IncrediblyLamePun guilty]] of this. The VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney trilogy]] was originally released on the GBA only in Japan. Years later, a DS version was made versions of all three games, which games were now made, [[{{Woolseyism}} localized]], and released internationally. Other than remastered music, improved coloring on the sprites a larger aspect ratio, and an added a bonus case in the first game which made use of the DS's new features, all three games were more or less mostly the same. Later, all three games were made available on WiiWare, with the only notable difference being that the player can point the Wiimote while shouting [[RuleofCool OBJEC]][[AwesomeButImpractical TION!]] But again, no other significant differences. It's now also The trilogy was later released in one package on the Appstore iOS store (using a free-to-play model where the user must pay for each individual episode save for 1 and 2). Aside from This collection featured improved graphics, again, no difference.and many [[PortingDisaster problems]]. Then all three games were released on the 3DS as ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy''. The graphics were practically identical to the iOS versions, but, once more, no difference.
with the only difference being a slightly touched-up script.
** It should be noted, however, that with the exception of the DS updated version UpdatedRerelease of the first game with the new case, case (and even then, only in Japan), none of these ports were made with the intention of making people buy the games again, but rather to have the titles still be in the market when their home consoles became outdated.
13th May '16 12:51:04 AM FMecha
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* Samsung has a tendency to issue UpdateRereleases of the preceiding smartphones after releasing a new model. The Galaxy S has the Plus model and whopping 3 dual-SIM revisions, S II has the Plus model, S III has the Neo model, the [=S4=] have the rugged Active version ''released in the same year'', and the [=S5=] has the Neo model again. The [=S6=] and [=S7=] is released in the normal, Edge, and Active model ([=S6=] also includes the larger Edge+ model). The larger Note devices suffer similar things: the Galaxy Note 3 was followed by a nerfed model called Neo with worse camera, display, and storage. Goes more blatant with the Note 10.1 tablet where the updated model is called ''2014 Edition''. Of note, other Android vendors do similar things as well.

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* Samsung has a tendency to issue UpdateRereleases UpdatedRerelease of the preceiding Android smartphones after releasing a new model. The Galaxy S has the Plus model and whopping 3 dual-SIM revisions, S II has the Plus model, S III has the Neo model, the [=S4=] have the rugged Active version ''released in the same year'', and the [=S5=] has the Neo model again. The [=S6=] and [=S7=] is released in the normal, Edge, and Active model ([=S6=] also includes the larger Edge+ model). The larger Note devices suffer similar things: the Galaxy Note 3 was followed by a nerfed model called Neo with worse camera, display, and storage. Goes more blatant with the Note 10.1 tablet where the updated model is called ''2014 Edition''. Of note, other Android vendors do similar things as well.
13th May '16 12:49:37 AM FMecha
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* Samsung has a tendency to issue UpdateRereleases of the preceiding smartphones after releasing a new model. The Galaxy S has the Plus model and whopping 3 dual-SIM revisions, S II has the Plus model, S III has the Neo model, the [=S4=] have the rugged Active version ''released in the same year'', and the [=S5=] has the Neo model again. The [=S6=] and [=S7=] is released in the normal, Edge, and Active model ([=S6=] also includes the larger Edge+ model). The larger Note devices suffer similar: the Galaxy Note 3 was followed by a nerfed model called Neo with worse camera, display, and storage. Goes more blatant with the Note 10.1 tablet where the updated model is called ''2014 Edition''. Of note, other Android vendors do similar things as well.
* Apple does the same thing as well: after the original and the [=3G=]-enabled model, the [=3GS=] was released. The [=iPhone=] 4 was followed by the [=4s=] model, the [=iPhone=] 5 has 2 additional revisions [=5c=] and [=5s=], and the [=iPhone=] 6 (as well as the larger sized 6 Plus was followed by 6s. More confusingly, the third and fouth generations of [=iPad=] was marketed as "New [=iPad=]" and "[=iPad=] with Retina display".

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* Samsung has a tendency to issue UpdateRereleases of the preceiding smartphones after releasing a new model. The Galaxy S has the Plus model and whopping 3 dual-SIM revisions, S II has the Plus model, S III has the Neo model, the [=S4=] have the rugged Active version ''released in the same year'', and the [=S5=] has the Neo model again. The [=S6=] and [=S7=] is released in the normal, Edge, and Active model ([=S6=] also includes the larger Edge+ model). The larger Note devices suffer similar: similar things: the Galaxy Note 3 was followed by a nerfed model called Neo with worse camera, display, and storage. Goes more blatant with the Note 10.1 tablet where the updated model is called ''2014 Edition''. Of note, other Android vendors do similar things as well.
* Apple does the same thing as well: after the original and the [=3G=]-enabled model, the [=3GS=] was released. The [=iPhone=] 4 was followed by the [=4s=] model, the [=iPhone=] 5 has 2 additional revisions [=5c=] ([=5c=] and [=5s=], [=5s=]), and the [=iPhone=] 6 (as well as the larger sized 6 Plus Plus) was followed by 6s. More confusingly, the third and fouth generations of [=iPad=] was marketed as "New [=iPad=]" and "[=iPad=] with Retina display".
13th May '16 12:46:52 AM FMecha
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* Samsung has a tendency to issue UpdateRereleases of the preceiding smartphones after releasing a new model. The Galaxy S has the Plus model and whopping 3 dual-SIM revisions, S II has the Plus model, S III has the Neo model, the [=S4=] have the rugged Active version ''released in the same year'', and the [=S5=] has the Neo model again. The [=S6=] and [=S7=] is released in the normal, Edge, and Active model ([=S6=] also includes the larger Edge+ model). The larger Note devices suffer similar: the Galaxy Note 3 was followed by a nerfed model called Neo with worse camera, display, and storage. Goes more blatant with the Note 10.1 tablet where the updated model is called ''2014 Edition''. Of note, other Android vendors do similar things as well.
* Apple does the same thing as well: after the original and the [=3G=]-enabled model, the [=3GS=] was released. The [=iPhone=] 4 was followed by the [=4s=] model, the [=iPhone=] 5 has 2 additional revisions [=5c=] and [=5s=], and the [=iPhone=] 6 (as well as the larger sized 6 Plus was followed by 6s. More confusingly, the third and fouth generations of [=iPad=] was marketed as "New [=iPad=]" and "[=iPad=] with Retina display".
23rd Apr '16 9:38:32 PM aye_amber
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** ''{{Prometheus}}'' kinda subverted by having deleted scenes, but not an alternate cut because Ridley Scott didn't want to do so. (given both ''Alien'' and ''BladeRunner'', a feat for him!)

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** ''{{Prometheus}}'' ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' kinda subverted by having deleted scenes, but not an alternate cut because Ridley Scott didn't want to do so. (given both ''Alien'' ''Film/{{Alien}}'' and ''BladeRunner'', ''Film/BladeRunner,'' a feat for him!)
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