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23rd Apr '17 9:37:20 AM nombretomado
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* The ''SwatKats'' kept leaving the Enforcers in the dust whenever they have to confront the challenge of the week. This is because the duo were once Enforcers themselves- see the main page for more detail on how they became vigilantes.

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* The ''SwatKats'' ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats'' kept leaving the Enforcers in the dust whenever they have to confront the challenge of the week. This is because the duo were once Enforcers themselves- see the main page for more detail on how they became vigilantes.
19th Apr '17 8:57:56 AM BeerBaron
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim''
** Due to how LevelScaling works in Skyrim, the first few people you meet at the start of your journey are going to be around your level if they're not story-characters. As you get stronger all your foes get stronger too to a point. The problem comes in with dragon attacks, who can roast and decimate entire towns at higher levels , and vampires in''Dawnguard'' as they just love to show up at night and kill everyone in town and they'll be too weak to fight back. Ulfric Stormcloak used to be this as at [[spoiler: your fight with him]] became a short skrimish and his right hand man Galmar Stone-Fist will be an actual challenge.
** Not just characters, but ''magic'' is hit by this too. Destruction spells have a hard-set damage and can only get 25-50% stronger with a 2-part perk for each type and being dual-cast for a heavier magicka cost (10% more damage for 40% more magicka and a better chance to stagger). The only way to make them stronger is for enemies to be weaker to that type of magic, meaning Frost spells are hurt first as nearly everyone and their mothers are Nords in Skyrim, you know the ''native people'' who are ''resistant to frost''. Conjuring is not as hard hit as you gain stronger and stronger summonings but they cost more and more and weaker summons become more and more useless. Bound weapons that the Dragonborn can summon also fall into this; when you first get them they're the first Daedric weapons you get in a while and at that time everyone else has iron weapons, having the Mystic Binding perk lets the Bound Bow grant the most XP of any bow in game, and the Soul Stealer perk lets you soul trap. Their greatness falls off when you realize you're only holding a magical shade of the weapon and therefore you can't improve or enchant them (something you would want to do), they only last for a set time limit, and you can't use them on horseback or with other weapons.

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim''
''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', Edwinna Elbert, Stewardess of the Ald-Ruhn Mages Guild Hall, considers herself one of the foremost experts on [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] technology. However, as dedicated as she is in her efforts as a Dwemer scholar, the [[EvilSorcerer Telvanni]] seem to have beat her to the punch, and at least two Telvanni [[TheMagocracy mage lords]] own their own custom-built Dwemer [[MechaMooks centurion guards]]. One of these mages, Baladas, is also more knowledgeable about the Dwemer than Edwinna could ever ''hope'' to be, [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld having a head start]] in the subject of several ''millennia''. The only thing saving her research from being completely pointless is that the Telvanni don’t care about sharing their findings outside their private circles, so Edwinna’s “discoveries” seem more current than they actually are.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'':
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Due to how LevelScaling works in Skyrim, the first few people you meet at the start of your journey are going to be around your level if they're not story-characters. As you get stronger all your foes get stronger too to a point. The problem comes in with dragon attacks, who can roast and decimate entire towns at higher levels , and vampires in''Dawnguard'' as they just love to show up at night and kill everyone in town and they'll be too weak to fight back. Ulfric Stormcloak used to be this as at [[spoiler: your fight with him]] became a short skrimish and his right hand man Galmar Stone-Fist will be an actual challenge.
** *** Not just characters, but ''magic'' is hit by this too. Destruction spells have a hard-set damage and can only get 25-50% stronger with a 2-part perk for each type and being dual-cast for a heavier magicka cost (10% more damage for 40% more magicka and a better chance to stagger). The only way to make them stronger is for enemies to be weaker to that type of magic, meaning Frost spells are hurt first as nearly everyone and their mothers are Nords in Skyrim, you know the ''native people'' who are ''resistant to frost''. Conjuring is not as hard hit as you gain stronger and stronger summonings but they cost more and more and weaker summons become more and more useless. Bound weapons that the Dragonborn can summon also fall into this; when you first get them they're the first Daedric weapons you get in a while and at that time everyone else has iron weapons, having the Mystic Binding perk lets the Bound Bow grant the most XP of any bow in game, and the Soul Stealer perk lets you soul trap. Their greatness falls off when you realize you're only holding a magical shade of the weapon and therefore you can't improve or enchant them (something you would want to do), they only last for a set time limit, and you can't use them on horseback or with other weapons.
11th Apr '17 11:25:19 AM TheSinful
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[[folder:Fan Fiction]]
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5390962/1/AU-A-Saiyan-Warrior A Saiyan Warrior]]'', it takes Videl several months after she learns how strong the Z Fighters are to understand she'll never catch up to them even with her new training. The older generation were all several times stronger than she is when they were her age and the younger generation is even worse. Bardock (named after his grandfather) is her age but was stronger than her when he was a toddler.
** Chi-chi had this problem as well, though later than canon. While training for the Saiyans, she quit about halfway through when she realized she couldn't keep up with the others and was at that point less than half as strong as them.
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5th Apr '17 6:34:08 PM Sammettik
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** An in-universe version occurs in ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'', where Brendan/May (the one you didn't choose) stops being your rival a bit over halfway through the game, being replaced by Wally who TookALevelInBadass.

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
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''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': An in-universe version occurs in ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'', where Brendan/May (the one you didn't choose) stops being your rival a bit over halfway through the game, being replaced by Wally who TookALevelInBadass.



** Not just characters, but ''magic'' is hit by this too. Destruction spells have a hard-set damage and can only get 25-50% stronger with a 2-part perk for each type and being dual-cast for a heavier magicka cost (10% more damage for 40% more magicka and a better chance to stagger). The only way to make them stronger is for enemies to be weaker to that type of magic, meaning Frost spells are hurt first as nearly everyone and their mothers are Nords in Skyrim, you know the ''native people'' who are ''resistant to frost''. Conjuring is not as hard hit as you gain stronger and stronger summonings but they cost more and more and weaker summons become more and more useless. Bound weapons that the Dragonborn can summon also fall into this; when you first get them they're the first Daedric weapons you get in a while and at that time everyone else has iron weapons, having the Mystic Binding perk lets the Bound Bow grant the most XP of any bow in game, and the Soul Stealer perk lets you soul trap. Their greatness falls off when you realize your only holding a magical shade of the weapon and therefore you can't improve or enchant them (something you would want to do), they only last for a set time limit, and you can't use them on horseback or with other weapons.

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** Not just characters, but ''magic'' is hit by this too. Destruction spells have a hard-set damage and can only get 25-50% stronger with a 2-part perk for each type and being dual-cast for a heavier magicka cost (10% more damage for 40% more magicka and a better chance to stagger). The only way to make them stronger is for enemies to be weaker to that type of magic, meaning Frost spells are hurt first as nearly everyone and their mothers are Nords in Skyrim, you know the ''native people'' who are ''resistant to frost''. Conjuring is not as hard hit as you gain stronger and stronger summonings but they cost more and more and weaker summons become more and more useless. Bound weapons that the Dragonborn can summon also fall into this; when you first get them they're the first Daedric weapons you get in a while and at that time everyone else has iron weapons, having the Mystic Binding perk lets the Bound Bow grant the most XP of any bow in game, and the Soul Stealer perk lets you soul trap. Their greatness falls off when you realize your you're only holding a magical shade of the weapon and therefore you can't improve or enchant them (something you would want to do), they only last for a set time limit, and you can't use them on horseback or with other weapons.
12th Mar '17 11:12:22 AM nombretomado
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* In ''Manga/{{Vagabond}}'', Hon'iden Matahachi chases MiyamotoMusashi's shadow, since they were childhood friends separated soon after the Battle of Sekigahara.

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* In ''Manga/{{Vagabond}}'', Hon'iden Matahachi chases MiyamotoMusashi's UsefulNotes/MiyamotoMusashi's shadow, since they were childhood friends separated soon after the Battle of Sekigahara.
26th Feb '17 2:27:00 PM nombretomado
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* This is common in later ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' series. Since the whole thing is MerchandiseDriven, [[OutOfFocus a drought of new releases for their archetype]] can cripple certain characters. Not only does it give them less of a pool to work with, but {{Konami}} won't lobby for their victory, since it wouldn't advertise anything. This is particularly dangerous for characters who utilize limited archetypes. For instance, in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX,'' Asuka starts off as a pretty respectable player, but when Cyber Girls failed to catch on (the last set to include them, ''Enemy of Justice'', started shipping less than halfway into the series), her Deck and win record suffered. She has to lean heavily on her Cyber Angels afterward, and being anime-only, they manage wins against {{Joke Character}}s and not much else. Similarly, Kenzan's Deck stagnated to oblivion after ''Dinosaur's Rage'' hit, and Misawa, who never saw any of his cards released after the Water Dragon set didn't work out, dropped in status from dangerous rival to complete loser. Later on, in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds,'' the death of Plant-Types following ''Raging Battle'' left Aki with nothing over 2400 ATK, and Luka failed to see any expansion whatsoever of her already pitiful Spirit archetype after ''The Shining Darkness'', leading to both being essentially DemotedToExtra.

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* This is common in later ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' series. Since the whole thing is MerchandiseDriven, [[OutOfFocus a drought of new releases for their archetype]] can cripple certain characters. Not only does it give them less of a pool to work with, but {{Konami}} {{Creator/Konami}} won't lobby for their victory, since it wouldn't advertise anything. This is particularly dangerous for characters who utilize limited archetypes. For instance, in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX,'' Asuka starts off as a pretty respectable player, but when Cyber Girls failed to catch on (the last set to include them, ''Enemy of Justice'', started shipping less than halfway into the series), her Deck and win record suffered. She has to lean heavily on her Cyber Angels afterward, and being anime-only, they manage wins against {{Joke Character}}s and not much else. Similarly, Kenzan's Deck stagnated to oblivion after ''Dinosaur's Rage'' hit, and Misawa, who never saw any of his cards released after the Water Dragon set didn't work out, dropped in status from dangerous rival to complete loser. Later on, in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds,'' the death of Plant-Types following ''Raging Battle'' left Aki with nothing over 2400 ATK, and Luka failed to see any expansion whatsoever of her already pitiful Spirit archetype after ''The Shining Darkness'', leading to both being essentially DemotedToExtra.
20th Feb '17 9:31:50 PM VeryMelon
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* ''Anime/KillLaKill'' has Tsumugu Kinagase. When he first appeared he seemed a hyper-competent fighter and strategist, [[BadassNormal being able to subdue the protagonist Ryuko without any fancy powers]]. He was also shown to be a master of traps and some sort of CombatMedic, as he fought with needles that rendered targets paralyzed but fully healed after that. When the real BigBad appeared and the heroes began fighting [[spoiler:basically an AlienInvasion]], his abilities suddenly became useless and he was repeatedly curbstomped without ever being useful again - probably because everyone else was either getting their Goku Uniforms upgraded or mastering the true potential of their Kamui, while he had already reached the peak a non-enhanced human could reach. On top of that, his storyline was never fully resolved and just sort of abandoned.

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* ''Anime/KillLaKill'' has ''Anime/KillLaKill'':
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Tsumugu Kinagase. When he first appeared he seemed a hyper-competent fighter and strategist, [[BadassNormal being able to subdue the protagonist Ryuko without any fancy powers]]. He was also shown to be a master of traps and some sort of CombatMedic, as he fought with needles that rendered targets paralyzed but fully healed after that. When the real BigBad appeared and the heroes began fighting [[spoiler:basically an AlienInvasion]], his abilities suddenly became useless and he was repeatedly curbstomped without ever being useful again - probably because everyone else was either getting their Goku Uniforms upgraded or mastering the true potential of their Kamui, while he had already reached the peak a non-enhanced human could reach. On top of that, his storyline was never fully resolved and just sort of abandoned.
19th Feb '17 10:16:27 AM nombretomado
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* By the end of ''Anime/CodeGeassLelouchOfTheRebellion'', Kallen and Suzaku are not only [[AcePilot the most skilled Knightmare pilots in the series]], but each of them [[SuperPrototype has access to a Knightmare Frame more technologically advanced than anything else out there]]. Opponents who could previously give Kallen or Suzaku a good one-on-one fight can now last only slightly longer against them than [[{{Mooks}} the hordes of unnamed Knightmare pilots]] those two [[OneManArmy slaughter by the dozens]].

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* By the end of ''Anime/CodeGeassLelouchOfTheRebellion'', ''[[Anime/CodeGeass Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion]]'', Kallen and Suzaku are not only [[AcePilot the most skilled Knightmare pilots in the series]], but each of them [[SuperPrototype has access to a Knightmare Frame more technologically advanced than anything else out there]]. Opponents who could previously give Kallen or Suzaku a good one-on-one fight can now last only slightly longer against them than [[{{Mooks}} the hordes of unnamed Knightmare pilots]] those two [[OneManArmy slaughter by the dozens]].
17th Feb '17 1:55:00 PM STRX
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* Happens a lot in Anime/Beyblade
** In the third season[=/=]G-Revolution, Lee has this problem and never gets over it until the team match between White Tigerz X and the All Stars.
** Anime/MetalFightBeyblade: Out of all the main character, Benkei has the least amount of development and growth compared to the rest, and never wins a battle after Masters unless he's with Kyoya. Even Kenta outgrows this by Fury.
*** The reason for Zeo's FaceHeelTurn before the beginning of the series.
** In Anime/BeybladeBurst: Daina fears this will happen to him, hence why in episode 23 [[spoiler: he cheats to win the match against Yugo, which he regrets in the next 3 episodes]].
17th Feb '17 1:43:06 PM Tropetastic1995
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** Android 18, quite possibly the only legitimately dangerous woman in the series, gets his with this immediately after her HeelFaceTurn. When she's first introduced in the Android Saga, she was strong enough to [[CurbStompBattle effortlessly defeat Android 19 and SSJ Vegeta]], and along with her brother 17, basically ended the world in Future Trunks' timeline after [[TotalPartyKill killing every.]] [[HeroKiller Single. Z-fighter]]. After marrying Krillan though, the only fight she wins is against [[FakeUltimateHero Hercule Satan]]. Her only roles in the series after that initial high points are to be [[TheAssimilator absorbed by Cell]], [[EatenAlive eaten by Buu]], and [[TheWorfEffect defeated in one pimp slap by Beerus.]] She doesn't even participate in the battle against Freeza's forces in ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' despite, [[LampshadeHanging pointing out to Krillin]] that she is still stronger then him. Although there is some justification in that, after the Cell arc, she stopped participating in major battles, everybody not named Goku got CurbStomp|ed by Beerus, and during Resurrection F Krillin asked her to protect their daughter Marron in case things went south with Freeza.

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** Android 18, quite possibly the only legitimately dangerous woman in the series, gets his with this immediately after her HeelFaceTurn. When she's first introduced in the Android Saga, she was strong enough to [[CurbStompBattle effortlessly defeat Android 19 and SSJ Vegeta]], and along with her brother 17, basically ended the world in Future Trunks' timeline after [[TotalPartyKill killing every.]] [[HeroKiller Single. Z-fighter]]. After marrying Krillan Krillin though, the only fight she wins is against [[FakeUltimateHero Hercule Satan]]. Her only roles in the series after that initial high points are to be [[TheAssimilator absorbed by Cell]], [[EatenAlive eaten by Buu]], and [[TheWorfEffect defeated in one pimp slap by Beerus.]] She doesn't even participate in the battle against Freeza's forces in ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' despite, [[LampshadeHanging pointing out to Krillin]] that she is still stronger then him. Although there is some justification in that, after the Cell arc, she stopped participating in major battles, everybody not named Goku got CurbStomp|ed by Beerus, and during Resurrection F Krillin asked her to protect their daughter Marron in case things went south with Freeza.



** The adaptation of ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' deconstructs the hell out of this trope, especially with Gohan. Because everyone's default reaction now is essentially "Let's wait until Goku and/or Vegeta shows up", a lot of them have essentially slacked off save for Piccolo and Tienshenhan. Gohan is the worst off as he focused more on his studies and his family than his training and, when he goes to fight, he can only sustain ''basic'' Super Saiyan form for only a few moments - he can't even reach Super Saiyan 2 or his "Mystic Gohan" level anymore. This costs him dearly as, here, Piccolo dies TakingTheBullet from a sadistic Frieza. When Piccolo is revived by the Namekian Dragon Balls, the first thing Gohan does is ask him to retrain him.

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** The adaptation of ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' deconstructs the hell out of this trope, especially with Gohan. Because everyone's default reaction now is essentially "Let's wait until Goku and/or Vegeta shows up", a lot of them have essentially slacked off save for Piccolo and Tienshenhan. Gohan is the worst off as he focused more on his studies and his family than his training and, when he goes to fight, he can only sustain ''basic'' Super Saiyan form for only a few moments - he can't even reach Super Saiyan 2 or his "Mystic Gohan" level anymore. This costs him dearly as, here, Piccolo dies TakingTheBullet from a sadistic Frieza. When Piccolo is revived by the Namekian Dragon Balls, the first thing Gohan does is ask him to retrain him. Later on in the series, it's shown that Krillin has actually developed a serious inferiority complex over his weakness relative to Goku.


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* ''Digimon Adventure Tri'' averts this trope, however, as everyone else does get to unlock their Mega Forms to catch up with Matt's Gabumon and Tai's Agumon.
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