History Main / CantCatchUp

17th Jul '16 9:56:03 AM storyyeller
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This is actually *inverted* in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI''. At several points in the game, unused characters have their level bumped up to the party average plus a static modifier. This means that unused characters often end up at a ''higher'' level than the characters you were actually using. They do have the minor drawback of missing out on esper bonuses, however.

to:

* This is actually *inverted* '''inverted''' in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI''. At several points in the game, unused characters have their level bumped up to the party average plus a static modifier. This means that unused characters often end up at a ''higher'' level than the characters you were actually using. They do have the minor drawback of missing out on esper bonuses, however.
17th Jul '16 9:55:20 AM storyyeller
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* This is actually *inverted* in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI''. At several points in the game, unused characters have their level bumped up to the party average plus a static modifier. This means that unused characters often end up at a ''higher'' level than the characters you were actually using. They do have the minor drawback of missing out on esper bonuses, however.
10th Jul '16 7:34:43 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** The amount of magical power that a person can both naturally hold and expand in is usually pre-determined. Because she was born with an obscenely high Bucket Capacity (the natural amount of magic one possesses), [[RedHeadedHeroine Lina]] outranks a majority of humans in magic, including the more balanced Amelia and the MagicKnight Zelgadis (who, when he was human, was implied to have minimal magic power to begin with; courtesy of a part of his chimeric makeup, his magical power expanded). [[GoldfishPoopGang Naga the Serpent]] is implied to have both a Bucket Capacity that can rival Lina's and a bigger Pool Capacity (how much power can be exerted before exhaustion), but she's so [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered]] and [[TheDitz flaky]] that she can't perform the same feats Lina can - calling upon the power of [[GuardianOfTheMultiverse the Lord of Nightmares]], for one.

to:

** The amount of magical power that a person can both naturally hold and expand in is usually pre-determined. Because she was born with an obscenely high Bucket Capacity (the natural amount of magic one possesses), [[RedHeadedHeroine Lina]] Lina outranks a majority of humans in magic, including the more balanced Amelia and the MagicKnight Zelgadis (who, when he was human, was implied to have minimal magic power to begin with; courtesy of a part of his chimeric makeup, his magical power expanded). [[GoldfishPoopGang Naga the Serpent]] is implied to have both a Bucket Capacity that can rival Lina's and a bigger Pool Capacity (how much power can be exerted before exhaustion), but she's so [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered]] and [[TheDitz flaky]] that she can't perform the same feats Lina can - calling upon the power of [[GuardianOfTheMultiverse the Lord of Nightmares]], for one.
20th Jun '16 2:32:30 PM nighttrainfm
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Happened for a while in season 2 of ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' to Tommy. With a failed Dragon Coin, no Thunderzord upgrade was possible for the Dragon Zord, and he had to go through the "my powers are weakening" bit every other fight. The others had to wait several more episodes before their friend could catch up, with a tease of him being gone forever. Then PopularityPower kicked in and [[BreakoutCharacter he came back]] as the White Ranger - which, if anything, put him too far *ahead* of the others most of the time.

to:

* Happened ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'':
** This happened to Tommy
for a while in season 2 of ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' to Tommy. two. With a failed damaged, failing Dragon Coin, no Thunderzord upgrade was possible for the Dragon Zord, Dragonzord, and he had to go through the "my powers are weakening" bit every other fight. The others had to wait several more episodes before their friend could catch up, with a tease of him being gone forever. Then PopularityPower kicked in and [[BreakoutCharacter he came back]] as the White Ranger - which, if anything, put him too far *ahead* of the others most of the time.
15th Jun '16 7:20:46 PM Doug86
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Particularly bad in ''Franchise/FireEmblem''. Often you won't even be able to easily train your low-level units late into the game because by then [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil most enemies will be able to]] [[FinalDeath permanently kill them]] [[OneHitKill in one hit]]. Low-level units do at least get a form of LeakedExperience in that they gain more XP from a given enemy than a high-level unit would. You'll end up with either a small group of highly-experienced [[OneManParty war gods]] or a RedshirtArmy, and since [[ArbitraryHeadcountLimit you can only field so many units at a time]], too often a lot of perfectly good units become permanent bench-warmers not long after you get them.

to:

* Particularly bad in ''Franchise/FireEmblem''.''VideoGame/FireEmblem''. Often you won't even be able to easily train your low-level units late into the game because by then [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil most enemies will be able to]] [[FinalDeath permanently kill them]] [[OneHitKill in one hit]]. Low-level units do at least get a form of LeakedExperience in that they gain more XP from a given enemy than a high-level unit would. You'll end up with either a small group of highly-experienced [[OneManParty war gods]] or a RedshirtArmy, and since [[ArbitraryHeadcountLimit you can only field so many units at a time]], too often a lot of perfectly good units become permanent bench-warmers not long after you get them.
3rd Jun '16 4:48:45 PM Shadow200
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** Justified in Roshi's case, as his prime was over a hundred years ago and by the time Dragon Ball starts he's an elderly man who can't hang in there anymore due to his age and toll on his body.
2nd Jun '16 12:22:00 AM YnK
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Mamoru as Tuxedo Mask never receives any power upgrades at all, being stuck with his trademark throwing roses for four full seasons of the anime up until he was PutOnABus in the fifth one. This, unfortunately, meant that, in order to keep him around, the writers had to keep the senshi from getting too competent at fighting, even though ''they'' do grow in power over time. Again, this doesn't apply to the manga, which outright ''deconstructs'' the trope: despite having a fairly strong offensive move in addition to some passive PsychicPowers, by the fourth arc Mamoru realizes that both Usagi and Chibiusa have grown out of needing his support, which leads to him gradually discovering his true potential when the arc villains directly target his planet.
30th May '16 12:20:57 AM IndirectActiveTransport
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This was how Su Yung felt about her West Coast Connection partner, Tracy Taylor. At times she turned on Taylor out of [[GreenEyedMonster envy]], such as when Tracy won the PGWA Championship, at others Yung has called Taylor for help, such as when Valkyrie sent Yung running from SHINE's arena and she apologized profusely whenever the team wasn't doing well. One of the benefit's to Yung's later decayed psyche is at least she seemed to have gotten over this by SHINE 19.
* When Portia Perez heard that SHINE was making an effort to promote newer wrestlers who have had their chance to...shine yet, she said it was time wasted, as no upstart would ever catch up to her.

to:

* This was how Su Yung felt about her West Coast Connection partner, Tracy Taylor. At times she turned on Taylor out of [[GreenEyedMonster envy]], such as when Tracy won the PGWA Championship, Championship belt, at others Yung has called Taylor for help, such as when Valkyrie sent Yung running from SHINE's arena The Orpheum and she apologized profusely whenever the team wasn't doing well. One of the benefit's to Yung's later [[SanitySlippage decayed psyche psyche]] is at least she seemed to have gotten over this by SHINE 19.
19...
* When Portia Perez heard that SHINE was making an effort to promote newer wrestlers who have haven't had their chance to...shine yet, she said it was time wasted, as no upstart would ever catch up to her.
29th May '16 7:12:59 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This VERY easily happens in the Playstation2 game ''VideoGame/DarkCloud'' for numerous reasons. One is the fact that it uses a "No battle no experience" rule and the fact that the number of weapons available to some characters clearly indicates that the developers favour Toan and Ruby. Ungaga and Osmond are also obviously middle-tier characters in those games. They can actually be pretty good if a player invests time into building up to their ultimate weapons and uses their playstyles effectively. Xiao and poor Goro wind up the weakest characters because they can only attack once and they are so vulnerable to retaliation or attack when trying to line it up it's just not worth using them as a primary attacker.

to:

* This VERY easily happens in the Playstation2 UsefulNotes/Playstation2 game ''VideoGame/DarkCloud'' for numerous reasons. One is the fact that it uses a "No battle no experience" rule and the fact that the number of weapons available to some characters clearly indicates that the developers favour Toan and Ruby. Ungaga and Osmond are also obviously middle-tier characters in those games. They can actually be pretty good if a player invests time into building up to their ultimate weapons and uses their playstyles effectively. Xiao and poor Goro wind up the weakest characters because they can only attack once and they are so vulnerable to retaliation or attack when trying to line it up it's just not worth using them as a primary attacker.
14th May '16 6:38:03 AM Doug86
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* After the first ranger mission in ''Videogame/BreathOfFire2'', your best buddy Bow gets falsely accused of burglary, and has to go into hiding while you search the world for the real perp. Once you finally get his name cleared and he can rejoin, he'll be far behind. He does require lower experience to level than other characters at this point to make up for it, but whether it is enough is debatable.

to:

* After the first ranger mission in ''Videogame/BreathOfFire2'', ''Videogame/BreathOfFireII'', your best buddy Bow gets falsely accused of burglary, and has to go into hiding while you search the world for the real perp. Once you finally get his name cleared and he can rejoin, he'll be far behind. He does require lower experience to level than other characters at this point to make up for it, but whether it is enough is debatable.
This list shows the last 10 events of 216. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.CantCatchUp