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21st Aug '16 12:09:44 PM MrMediaGuy2
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* [[WebComic/PhoebeAndHerUnicorn Marigold Heavenly Nostrils]] is a unicorn version of this trope, except when she comes across something [[{{Narcissist}} reflective]].

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* [[WebComic/PhoebeAndHerUnicorn [[ComicStrip/PhoebeAndHerUnicorn Marigold Heavenly Nostrils]] is a unicorn version of this trope, except when she comes across something [[{{Narcissist}} reflective]].
21st Aug '16 12:08:12 PM MrMediaGuy2
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* [[WebComic/PhoebeAndHerUnicorn Marigold Heavenly Nostrils]] is a unicorn version of this trope, except when she comes across something [[{{Narcissist}} reflective]].
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* [[WebComic/PhoebeAndHerUnicorn Marigold Heavenly Nostrils]] is a unicorn version of this trope, except when she comes across something [[{{Narcissist}} reflective]].
30th Jul '16 4:44:08 PM nombretomado
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* In second-ed D&D setting ''TabletopGames/{{Planescape}}'' all planars saw themselves as inherently superior to primes (anyone from the Prime Material Plane, [[TropeBreaker including elves]]). [[ForgottenRealms Toril]], [[TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}} Krynn]], [[DarkSun Athas]] - it didn't matter where on the Prime you were from or which race you were, until you proved otherwise you were Clueless and had no idea how the planes worked or what the answers to life were.

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* In second-ed D&D setting ''TabletopGames/{{Planescape}}'' all planars saw themselves as inherently superior to primes (anyone from the Prime Material Plane, [[TropeBreaker including elves]]). [[ForgottenRealms [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms Toril]], [[TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}} Krynn]], [[DarkSun [[TabletopGame/DarkSun Athas]] - it didn't matter where on the Prime you were from or which race you were, until you proved otherwise you were Clueless and had no idea how the planes worked or what the answers to life were.
30th Jul '16 7:48:25 AM Austin
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* Weirdly subverted in the Ryria Revelations. The elves are better than humans in every way (stronger, faster, tougher, more technologically advanced, and better at magic), but they have a single crippling weakness: their incredibly low birthrate. This allowed the humans to beat the elves in an ancient war by simply [[ZergRush Zerg Rushing]] them until the elves arranged a peace treaty to end the (to them) unbearable losses. As one of the main characters put it, "the elves were drowning in a floodtide of humanity."

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* Weirdly subverted in the Ryria Revelations.''Literature/TheRiyriaRevelations''. The elves are better than humans in every way (stronger, faster, tougher, more technologically advanced, and better at magic), but they have a single crippling weakness: their incredibly low birthrate. This allowed the humans to beat the elves in an ancient war by simply [[ZergRush Zerg Rushing]] them until the elves arranged a peace treaty to end the (to them) unbearable losses. As one of the main characters put it, "the elves were drowning in a floodtide of humanity."
25th Jun '16 11:38:32 AM nombretomado
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* BattleForWesnoth. Both humans and elves have an archer unit, and each type [[CharacterLevel levels up]] through different promotional classes. The description for the highest-level elven archer is a three paragraph long love letter about how they can shoot birds in the eye while blindfolded (or something similar); the description for the highest-level human archer just says that they're pretty good for a human, and then goes on for another paragraph about how much better elves are. Of course, as the game is open-source and fan made, many of the campaigns are a little less elf-friendly... about half of them include a [[ScrewYouElves "sticking it to the elves"]] mission, just for the sake of doing so.

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* BattleForWesnoth.''VideoGame/BattleForWesnoth''. Both humans and elves have an archer unit, and each type [[CharacterLevel levels up]] through different promotional classes. The description for the highest-level elven archer is a three paragraph long love letter about how they can shoot birds in the eye while blindfolded (or something similar); the description for the highest-level human archer just says that they're pretty good for a human, and then goes on for another paragraph about how much better elves are. Of course, as the game is open-source and fan made, many of the campaigns are a little less elf-friendly... about half of them include a [[ScrewYouElves "sticking it to the elves"]] mission, just for the sake of doing so.
20th Jun '16 7:36:23 AM erttheking
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* The ''Literature/HarryPotter'' series has the centaurs who refuse to accept any sort of human dominion over themselves, and indeed even contact with humans is seen as a crime. Ironically, the only elves we do see in the series avert the trope entirely, as they have a psychological compulsion to serve their master's wishes.

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* The ''Literature/HarryPotter'' series has the centaurs who refuse to accept any sort of human dominion over themselves, and indeed even contact with humans is seen as a crime. Though it ends up being averted, as Hagrid, arguably the character who has the most contact with centaurs, regularly gets frustrated with them and considers them to have their heads in the clouds. Neither the narration nor other characters consider him wrong. In fact, Firenze, a centaur who is eventually banished for continued contact with humans, is treated as the most heroic and open minded of his kind. Ironically, the only elves we do see in the series avert the trope entirely, as they have a psychological compulsion to serve their master's wishes.
6th Jun '16 4:53:05 AM Lightice
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* In ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' the Qualinesti elves and especially the Silvanesti elves. Their common belief is that they are the chosen race of the god of good, Paladine (despite [[InformedAbility failing in actually doing something good to the world]]), they're the best in everything, and they blame humans for every single bad thing happened to Krynn, especially the Cataclysm and the return of the chromatic dragons. Oh, they're also so arrogant that they'll enslave their less-evolved cousins, the Kagonesti. [[spoiler:They eventually pay for their hubris by losing their homelands (Silvanost's taken by minotaurs, while Qualinost is destroyed by a giant dragon)]].

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* In ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' the Qualinesti elves and especially the Silvanesti elves. Their common belief is that they are the chosen race of the god of good, Paladine (despite [[InformedAbility failing in actually doing something good to the world]]), they're the best in everything, and they blame humans for every single bad thing happened to Krynn, especially the Cataclysm and the return of the chromatic dragons. Oh, they're also so arrogant that they'll enslave their less-evolved less advanced cousins, the Kagonesti. [[spoiler:They eventually pay for their hubris by losing their homelands (Silvanost's taken by minotaurs, while Qualinost is destroyed by a giant dragon)]].
14th May '16 7:15:38 AM Doug86
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*** Plus, in the proper 616 universe, it's the Brotherhood of Mutants who go on about how mutants are genetically superior and their main point of conflict with the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} is that the X-Men ''don't'' believe this. (DependingOnTheWriter, of course, but that's how it normally is.)

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*** Plus, in the proper 616 universe, it's the Brotherhood of Mutants who go on about how mutants are genetically superior and their main point of conflict with the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ComicBook/XMen is that the X-Men ''don't'' believe this. (DependingOnTheWriter, of course, but that's how it normally is.)
30th Apr '16 8:22:21 AM Allronix
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*** Ultimately subverted in that episode, since the flawed 20th-century JerkAss businessman is the only one able to tell the Romulan captain is just as clueless as they are ''and'' is willing to call him out on it, defusing a potentially hostile standoff that could have resulted in war. He's able to do this precisely because he still has an 'outdated' mindset.

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*** Ultimately subverted in that episode, since the flawed 20th-century JerkAss businessman is the only one able to tell the Romulan captain is just as clueless as they are ''and'' is willing to call him out on it, defusing a potentially hostile standoff that could have resulted in war. He's able to do this precisely because he still has an 'outdated' mindset. [[note]]ExpandedUniverse material states he ended up as a diplomat to the Ferengi, as he is more than able to understand their focus on commerce. [[/note]]
30th Apr '16 8:20:28 AM Allronix
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* The Mandalorians in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' will not hesitate to outline how they are, in every way conceivable, superior to those puny little Jedi. Considering you ''are'' a Jedi in the game, it is surprising how little opportunity you get to disagree with them. Particularly interesting is that you ''can'' badmouth the Mandalorians but only as long as none of them are actually within earshot...
** You can defeat them in honorable combat in their sparring matches, which gets most of them to respect your skills. Not to mention how many of these [[ScrewYouElves "perfect" warriors you mow down in the game]].

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* The Mandalorians in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'' will not hesitate to outline how they are, in every way conceivable, superior to those puny little Jedi. Considering you ''are'' a Jedi in the game, it is surprising how little opportunity you get to disagree with them. Particularly interesting is that you ''can'' badmouth the Mandalorians but only as long as none of them are actually within earshot...
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earshot...[[note]] The Exile has ''good'' reason to dislike - even hate - ''Mando'ade'', as they are a hardened and ShellShockedVeteran of a horrific war with that faction.[[/note]] You can defeat them in honorable combat in their sparring matches, which gets most of them to respect your skills. Not to mention how many of these [[ScrewYouElves "perfect" warriors you mow down in the game]]. There's also [[LightIsNotGood Atris]] and [[AuthorAvatar Kreia]] scolding you at every opportunity they can.
* In VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic: ''Everyone'', particularly [[DarkIsNotEvil light-aligned Sith]] end up on the receiving end of scolding lectures by Jedi who are quite full of themselves. If you are a Jedi character, you are the "elf" that everyone wants to argue with.
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