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18th Mar '16 8:02:25 AM Goldfritha
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In general, Canon Sues are significantly less common than {{fanfiction}} Mary Sues, since most professional authors have more skill, talent and accumulated experience than the amateurs who write fanfiction, not to mention the help of professional editors. However, this means that when they do occur they are significantly more visible ([[MyImmortal who's going to remember the hastily typed out daydream of a 12 year old girl in a year?]]). Due to the author creating an entirely different template for the work of fiction, they can set up the rules of TheVerse that allow or disallow particular tropes or characteristics. As such, they can choose what CommonMarySueTraits are allowed, making it a bit harder to see when plot bias is in effect. However, they're hardly immune to this trend.

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In general, Canon Sues are significantly less common than {{fanfiction}} Mary Sues, since most professional authors have more skill, talent and accumulated experience than the amateurs who write fanfiction, not to mention the help of professional editors. However, this means that when they do occur they are significantly more visible ([[MyImmortal who's going to remember the hastily typed out daydream of a 12 year old girl in a year?]]). Due to the author creating an entirely different template for the work of fiction, they can set up the rules of TheVerse that allow or disallow particular tropes or characteristics. As such, they can choose what CommonMarySueTraits are allowed, making it a bit harder to see when plot bias is in effect. However, they're hardly immune to this trend.
trend. Nor is this a new element; Creator/GeorgeEliot's ''Literature/SillyNovelsByLadyNovelists'' castigates many original novels of her day for obvious Mary Sue traits (among other flaws).
14th Nov '15 2:57:59 AM Clarste
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In general, Canon Sues are significantly less common than {{fanfiction}} Mary Sues, since most professional authors have more skill, talent and accumulated experience than the amateurs who write fanfiction. However, this means that when they do occur they are significantly more visible ([[MyImmortal who's going to remember the hastily typed out daydream of a 12 year old girl in a year?]]). Due to the author creating an entirely different template for the work of fiction, they can set up the rules of TheVerse that allow or disallow particular tropes or characteristics. As such, they can choose what CommonMarySueTraits are allowed, making it a bit harder to see when plot bias is in effect. However, they're hardly immune to this trend.

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In general, Canon Sues are significantly less common than {{fanfiction}} Mary Sues, since most professional authors have more skill, talent and accumulated experience than the amateurs who write fanfiction.fanfiction, not to mention the help of professional editors. However, this means that when they do occur they are significantly more visible ([[MyImmortal who's going to remember the hastily typed out daydream of a 12 year old girl in a year?]]). Due to the author creating an entirely different template for the work of fiction, they can set up the rules of TheVerse that allow or disallow particular tropes or characteristics. As such, they can choose what CommonMarySueTraits are allowed, making it a bit harder to see when plot bias is in effect. However, they're hardly immune to this trend.
22nd Oct '15 6:36:38 AM eyebones
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->"''The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to write who you know, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be a charismatic eccentric who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
21st Oct '15 6:59:30 PM Gideoncrawle
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->"''The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"

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->"''The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write write who you know}}, know, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] eccentric who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"
7th Sep '15 2:15:50 AM eliaskelham
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->''When you read the book, it's like, "Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself!" I mean, every line is like that...I was just convinced that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation.''
-->--'''Creator/RobertPattinson''' on [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Stephanie Meyer]]

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->''When ->"''The next thing you read the book, need to do is create your main character, and since it's like, "Edward Cullen was important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so beautiful I creamed myself!" I mean, every line they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is like that...I was just convinced that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation.''
-->--'''Creator/RobertPattinson'''
unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on [[{{Literature/Twilight}} Stephanie Meyer]]
fire.''"
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
30th Jan '15 10:54:38 AM johnnyfog
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->"''The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''

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->"''The next thing ->''When you need to do is create your main character, and since read the book, it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character like, "Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself!" I mean, every line is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who like that...I was just convinced that this woman is unconditionally loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation.''
-->--'''Creator/RobertPattinson'''
on fire.''"
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
[[{{Literature/Twilight}} Stephanie Meyer]]
15th Dec '14 11:08:25 AM MiinU
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For the most blatant and infamous examples see CreatorsPet. The MagicalGirlfriend, {{Tsundere}} and YamatoNadeshiko, while occasionally possessing similar traits, are not usually viewed as such; they are seen more as targets of enticement instead of ones to emulate; whether they're ''still'' {{Canon Sue}}s is left to the viewer. Also see TheAce, which puts an idealized character in a supporting role in the story, often serving as a rival, a foil, a source of comedy, or as a mentor (or possibly just TheHeroOfAnotherStory). SuetifulAllAlong can also play a part as well.

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For the most blatant and infamous examples see CreatorsPet. The MagicalGirlfriend, {{Tsundere}} and YamatoNadeshiko, while occasionally possessing similar traits, are not usually viewed as such; they are seen more as targets of enticement instead of ones to emulate; whether they're ''still'' {{Canon Sue}}s is left to the viewer. Also see TheAce, which puts an idealized character in a supporting role in the story, often serving as a rival, a foil, a source of comedy, or as a mentor (or possibly just TheHeroOfAnotherStory).the HeroOfAnotherStory). SuetifulAllAlong can also play a part as well.
30th Nov '14 12:50:01 AM johnnyfog
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->"''The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is [[InformedAttractiveness unconditionally loved]] by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"\\
-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''

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->"''The next thing you need to do is create your main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is [[InformedAttractiveness unconditionally loved]] loved by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"\\
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'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
20th Oct '14 2:25:45 PM johnnyfog
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->''"The movie is directed by Larry Bishop, son of Rat Packer Joey Bishop. Larry also takes up the lead role of Pistolero. Pistolero is…well, [[TheAce he’s the man]]. Pistolero is supposed to be more badass than [[Series/{{TwentyFour}} Jack Bauer]] and StevenSeagal combined, sexually he is [[BiggerIsBetterInBed John Holmes]], charismatically he is Creator/PaulNewman and Creator/SteveMcQueen, and intellectually speaking he is ComicBook/LexLuthor and StephenHawking. That’s all well and good until you actually see Larry Bishop and you laugh your f*cking a** off."''\\
--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/quentin-tarantino-presents-hell-ride-larry-bishop-2008/ on]] ''Quentin Tarantino Presents: Hell Ride'' (2008)

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->''"The movie is directed by Larry Bishop, son of Rat Packer Joey Bishop. Larry also takes up the lead role of Pistolero. Pistolero is…well, [[TheAce he’s the man]]. Pistolero is supposed to be more badass than [[Series/{{TwentyFour}} Jack Bauer]] and StevenSeagal combined, sexually he is [[BiggerIsBetterInBed John Holmes]], charismatically he is Creator/PaulNewman and Creator/SteveMcQueen, and intellectually speaking he is ComicBook/LexLuthor and StephenHawking. That’s all well and good until ->"''The next thing you actually see Larry Bishop and you laugh need to do is create your f*cking a** off."''\\
--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/quentin-tarantino-presents-hell-ride-larry-bishop-2008/ on]] ''Quentin Tarantino Presents: Hell Ride'' (2008)
main character, and since it's important to {{write who you know}}, the main character will obviously be ''you''; but while you are a repressed, socially retarded dullard who no one would ever honestly admit to liking, your author insertion character is a fantasy, so they will be [[LoveableRogue a charismatic eccentric]] who is [[InformedAttractiveness unconditionally loved]] by everyone, even while he's setting their dog on fire.''"\\
-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''GamingWebcomics''
14th Oct '14 8:30:19 PM TitaniumDragon
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For the most blatant and infamous examples see CreatorsPet. The MagicalGirlfriend, {{Tsundere}} and YamatoNadeshiko, while occasionally possessing similar traits, are not usually viewed as such; they are seen more as targets of enticement instead of ones to emulate; whether they're ''still'' {{Canon Sue}}s is left to the viewer. Also see TheAce, which puts a fairly blatant MartyStu in a supporting role for comedic purposes. SuetifulAllAlong can also play a part as well.

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For the most blatant and infamous examples see CreatorsPet. The MagicalGirlfriend, {{Tsundere}} and YamatoNadeshiko, while occasionally possessing similar traits, are not usually viewed as such; they are seen more as targets of enticement instead of ones to emulate; whether they're ''still'' {{Canon Sue}}s is left to the viewer. Also see TheAce, which puts a fairly blatant MartyStu an idealized character in a supporting role for comedic purposes.in the story, often serving as a rival, a foil, a source of comedy, or as a mentor (or possibly just TheHeroOfAnotherStory). SuetifulAllAlong can also play a part as well.
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